Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
But suddenly a few days ago, my phone doesn't sound my alarm in the morning because it had turned its self off.
Imagine my surprise when I had to plug it to start it. Turns out it had drained 60% in little over 3 hours.
So I began testing - turns out my phone had started to fluctuate between -90 and -150 mA EVEN IN AIRPLANE MODE.
After trying countless solutions (inc many different ROMs), I had had enough. I full wiped from CWM and installed fresh ARHD 5.1.6, skipped all setup, installed just titanium, and restored just battery calibration and currentwidget. I calibrated and then left it overnight in airplane mode - and STILL it fluctuated just as wildly.
I wouldn't post this if I hadn't tried everything, but I have spent hours reading xda trying to amend this. Changing radios didn't help (am using latest atm), changing ROM didn't help (not GB or froyo or CM7), even restoring my nandroid from when my battery drain was normal didn't help.
Does anyone have ANY ideas as to why this is happening?
The only thing I can conceivably think of is that my battery is giving up.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry
if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
CodeNameUnknown1 said:
if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
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Official batterys are expensive... does HTC do replacements?
not sure, never tried or asked, gotta phone them up!
have you tried turning USB debugging on? that solved it for some people.
i also had this problem, and the USB debug didnt work, but i found that it was something to do with HTC hub repeatedly trying to connect to the internet and using a shed load of CPU in doing so. aeroplane mode didnt help me either, but after turning off everything with HTC in its name it worked again. (specifically HTC sense in accounts and sync)
hope that helps, worth a try.
oh and my battery is fine now, lasts 2 days or so. can last a week though.
still charge it every night though.
Thanks for replying, but USB Debugging was always on for me, and when I tested with fresh install I didn't put ANY accounts in so the HTC thing shouldn't be an issue. i guess I'll just try the replacement battery thing
sometimes the radio signal kept switching also may cause a drain in your battery.
Setting > Mobile networks > Network Mode > Preferred Network Mode
for me i preferred it to be set as 'WCDMA' rather than 'GSM/WCDMA Auto'. The draw back is that i may lost signal if the signal is weak but this setting prevent the radio from being switching.
OKAY GUYS I FIXED IT
How you may ask?
I HAVE NO IDEA
I was just flashing things over trying to fix it and suddenly it went back to normal. I'm currently using a UV kernel, so maybe that's helping too.
apoorvajsh said:
Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
I assume you dont physically wire up an ammeter, or do you?
Ian P
Hahahahahaha, that's brilliant. I'm signaturing that
But no, I don't. The phone creates estimates of the present current/voltage loss, much the same way as it makes estimates of the battery % left.
So all you need is an app to log that! Currentwidget is the lightest, but I recommend battery monitor widget
OK its a battery monitoring app, but can you see the current drain whilst actually using other programmes?
Some apps use full screen so even the top status bar is not visible.
Ian P
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
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CurrentWidget, logging to file :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
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I don't know what is wrong with me (I know this is something I'm doing wrong), this happens EVERY time I have an android phone.
I think I'm not closing an app or something and the battery drained overnight, it happened when I had a G1 and an X10... Anyone experienced that?
Is there a way to close apps properly on Android? I don't want to have to install something to manage whether my apps are open or close, I just want them to close when I'm done with them....
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I don't know what is wrong with me (I know this is something I'm doing wrong), this happens EVERY time I have an android phone.
I think I'm not closing an app or something and the battery drained overnight, it happened when I had a G1 and an X10... Anyone experienced that?
Is there a way to close apps properly on Android? I don't want to have to install something to manage whether my apps are open or close, I just want them to close when I'm done with them....
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Internet.. guessing you dont use it at night so try this.. 2 methods of doing the same thing 1) +/Widgets/Settings/Mobile Network and just toggle that whenever you don't need to use 3g connection, or before you go to bed. 2) Hold Power Button/ Mobile Network and make sure it says Connet to Internet is OFF..
for me, this gives 3 days of battery (also doing some under clocking at night ) loving the phone!
Ive experienced high battery usage on a HTC Desire, a Google nexus one and now on a Samsung Captivate. It always seems to be Android OS and the usage is even higher than display which is ridiculous.
It happens on and off and its really quite annoying. I always think Ive found out what causes it...and then it happens again!
I have to ask the question, but have you regularly been using the same 3rd party applications with each of the phones?
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I have to ask the question, but have you regularly been using the same 3rd party applications with each of the phones?
Regards,
Dave
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I realize the logic behind the question you're asking. Ive noticed android os battery drain without any apps installed (i.e. stock only). It doesnt seem to happen on a regular basis though.
At one time, I was pretty confident it was a generic charger, another time after usb connections and even something associated with google push services.
Not really sure what it could be. Its like those experiments at university where there are way too many variables, so the only option is to sit down and data log until a trend emerges. Frankly, its a phone and its too much time to actually sit down and do that. (Yes I know im lazy )
2-4% battery drain is normal at night, if you have airplane mode on or at least 3G / WiFi data connection off. The drain should be between 2 and 5 mA for most of the time.
There are a few battery related threads, try comparing those results with yours, we did some extensive testing too in one of them.
To pinpoint your problem try one or a combination of these three tools: SystemPanel, Power Tutor, Current Widget (maybe one each night). Let them monitor your system overnight and see what's the result.
I have recently done testing for 4 nights, two with SetCpu underclocking profile at screen off, and two without it. There was no appreciable difference between the four runs.
i use an App to turn on airplane mode over night, i stared with an app called "sweet dream" [Link = http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/sweet-dream_jtvk.html?nav=googleDownload ]
and now use timeriffic [link = http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/timeriffic_tdl.html ]
it really does help the battery life.
Or just plug it in overnight? This seems to work fine for me!!
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Or just plug it in overnight? This seems to work fine for me!!
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Hell yeah, plug it in and turn airplane mode on
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Have you tried conditioning the battery?
Calibrate your battery then reset your battery stats. It could help. If you flashed a rom while charging or during the first boot screen on first boot or on USB, battery calibration will need to be performed. It made a massive difference for me after multiple flashes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Thanks!
I decided to install Advanced Task Killer, all is good now, must have been some app draining it.
Hey guys,
I have been trying to solve this on my own for two days now, but I would like to consult the forum now.
So, I was running Pink Sense 1.8 for about 2 weeks with setCPU profiles and was getting satisfactory battery life. I had re-calibrated the battery info maybe 2 weeks before flashing the Pinky ROM (as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903).
All of a sudden, without any app installation or change to either the ROM or software/hardware settings I started getting horrible battery life. The battery would drain completely for less than 6 hours with GPS, 3G, and WiFi off.
*Another strange thing (which I don't know if it was related to my battery issue or not) was that when I would plug the charger it would turn the screen on but switch to the default clock app instead of the HTC sense homescreen. If I pressed home or back it would disappear. This would happen randomly and not always.
So, I figured it's time to jump ROMs and I decided on LeeDroid. I wiped cache, etc. and flashed the ROM. Out of the box the battery life was again pretty crappy (the battery was virtually disappearing in front of my eyes). I found some threads where it was suggested to disable market notifications and that slowed the battery drain a bit but it's still crappy.
I just charged it fully, 3G and WiFi off, and was with the screen off for 99% of the time and it still drained 18% battery in 1hour and 25 mins.
So, my question is - what the hell is going on???
Should I wipe battery info? Should I install a non-WiFi n rom? What more can I do?
I would really appreciate help and advice.
p.s. I am running the latest radio too.
wich radio have you the .23 drains the batery with my desire try with the .30_2
the battery life is better.
did you try reboot your phone maybe your optical joystick dead and drain your battery.
load any new apps recently?
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load any new apps recently?
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As I said, the problem appeared with absolutely no new apps installed and persists after flashing a new ROM.
How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
I will try flashing the 30_2 radio, thanks for that suggestion.
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How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
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If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english
Sithlord31 said:
If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english
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Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.
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Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.
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There seems to be no change with 17_2 radio. 15% drop for 1h45m. I will go through a charge/recharge cycle and if nothing has changed I will flash the 30_2 radio.
Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac
mmaacc said:
Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac
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Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.
slyn4ice said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.
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If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.
pehkblui said:
If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.
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I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.
slyn4ice said:
I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.
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Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex
Alex-V said:
Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex
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that doesn't help, ive tried it already
TieT said:
that doesn't help, ive tried it already
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Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!
slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!
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VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!
3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.
Jgruar said:
3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.
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Amazing explanation and reaffirmation of my thoughts Jgruar (JuicePlotter confirms it). I guess from my old WinMo days, I always remember Wifi being the power hog. I actually did change it back to GSM/Auto since that was the only change I made lately, but I thought I'd chime in while my device was charging back up, hoping for a reply just like that!
Thanks a bunch!
scar45 said:
VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!
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From what I understand you need to update RIL settings in the ROM and then flash the modified ROM. I just edited the /system/build.prop file in the Leedriod zip file and saved (didn't resign or anything). Flashed the ROM through ROM Manager recovery (I also tried flashing it through the normal recovery but it failed on the "verifying image" stage - I guess because I didn't resign the archive).
As far as the options themselves - only the last two should be carrier specific. I haven't researched anything about them, so I have absolutely no idea what they actually do. "lenik" just copied them from an official Softbank ROM.
God, i just checked JuicePlotter and i dropped 1% for 1h10m (everything off except the radio + setCPU to ~400Mhz when screen off). This is just crazy ... awesome ))))
Is the setting rom specific, or will it work om opendesire?
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slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings
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LeeDroid ROM (LeeDrOiD_V2.1_A2SD+_.zip) build.prop includes:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
but no:
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
Just checked.
Apologies for any double posts in two forums; thought This would be a better place to ask than the General Forum.
Mods: Didn't know whether to post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540559..
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I've Had my phone rooted, new Radio (Since Dec.) running latest LeeDroid.
Had my phone just the way i like everything, been very impressed with battery life over the past month with brilliant ROM updates.
Then randomly last week Wi-Fi usage shot up to the 60-90 mA level.
Why?
No new Rom had been installed for 2 weeks, so it wasn't that.
Wi-Fi off was 1-4 mA.
- I thought maybe its the applications I updated; Uninstalled all of them
Didn't work
- Maybe its fiddly settings like SYnc etc that have changed since App updates etc...
No settings had been altered.
- Maybe its a cache stats thing, I'll do a full wipe (Via CWM in Recovery Mode, select "Wipe Data/FactoryReset" option) and re-installed an even newer version of LeeDroid.
Still the battery drained 7-9 percent an hour on Standby(Screen Off).
1) Is it my router?
2) Is it a faulty WiFi part in the phone
3) What else besides the other two could it be?
i.e. - Battery was 60 percent with Wi-Fi on. -- Phone put into what appeared to be "Sleep Mode" (Pressing the power button once.)
-- 8 hours later battery was 15 percent!
Spare Parts showed "Time since Phone was in sleep" 8H
"Time since Wi-fi was in sleep" 8H.
Help greatly appreciated.
I had the same problem, disabling email sync in gmail solved the problem for me
Thanks GurliGebis; Tried that too even though I hadn't changed that setting since last week (When everything was fine).
Still no luck.
Any other thoughts?
Although almost 5 months have passed from the last reply on this thread I continue to have the EXACT same problem as you Tapori...
Have u figured it out mate?
Please reply if u have.
Thanks
DanteGR said:
Although almost 5 months have passed from the last reply on this thread I continue to have the EXACT same problem as you Tapori...
Have u figured it out mate?
Please reply if u have.
Thanks
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Have you checked the drain in other routers?? Check it in another place, friends house, work.. and see if its happening the same every where
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elazari said:
Have you checked the drain in other routers?? Check it in another place, friends house, work.. and see if its happening the same every where
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I have tried it elsewhere and drain seems to be ok as far as i can recall. The problem is that even with my home router SOMETIMES there is no problem and drain seems normal.
So it's just a random thing but oh so annoying when it happens.
Thanks for trying to help though
Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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beren28 said:
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
Me and my partner both have HTC ONE x's, Endeavouru, round a similar age, but her phone recently started draining battery.
Both running ARHD, with the same kernels. First I checked if apps were responsible, wiped and reflashed the ROM and kernel both.
This did not work, so then checked battery health with *#*#4636#*#* - showing the battery was in good health, but then replaced the battery anyway to eliminate any possibility of this being the culprit.
Now it's still giving massive drain - a charge up to 100% will last up to 5 hours of standby, with only mobile network activity turned on, all other radios off.
Been throughout the forums and other websites looking for any solutions to this problem but not striking any luck. Tried resetting the radio, changing it to LTE (Not even available where we are), and back etc, as one thread suggested, turned radio completely off and back on. Tried super cleaning the system before reflashing the ROM, tried a different kernel, an AOSP ROM, and still no luck.
It just all of a sudden started to do it, similar conditions to my phone, which makes it harder to pinpoint.
Any new idea's to bring to the table, open to any.
nb: Posted in wrong forum earlier, my bad.
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Me and my partner both have HTC ONE x's, Endeavouru, round a similar age, but her phone recently started draining battery.
Both running ARHD, with the same kernels. First I checked if apps were responsible, wiped and reflashed the ROM and kernel both.
This did not work, so then checked battery health with *#*#4636#*#* - showing the battery was in good health, but then replaced the battery anyway to eliminate any possibility of this being the culprit.
Now it's still giving massive drain - a charge up to 100% will last up to 5 hours of standby, with only mobile network activity turned on, all other radios off.
Been throughout the forums and other websites looking for any solutions to this problem but not striking any luck. Tried resetting the radio, changing it to LTE (Not even available where we are), and back etc, as one thread suggested, turned radio completely off and back on. Tried super cleaning the system before reflashing the ROM, tried a different kernel, an AOSP ROM, and still no luck.
It just all of a sudden started to do it, similar conditions to my phone, which makes it harder to pinpoint.
Any new idea's to bring to the table, open to any.
nb: Posted in wrong forum earlier, my bad.
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try downloading wakelock detector and seeing what keeps the phone awake and then uninstalling/reducing its privileges
the privileges part can be done with xposed and a module called appops
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try downloading wakelock detector and seeing what keeps the phone awake and then uninstalling/reducing its privileges
the privileges part can be done with xposed and a module called appops
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Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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Looks like faulty battery, try change the battery with new one and see what will happend
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Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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check if your cpu is stuck at 100% or 1.5 ghz in trickstermod and could you post a screenshot of wakelock detector?
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Looks like faulty battery, try change the battery with new one and see what will happend
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in the OP he said that he did that already
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check if your cpu is stuck at 100% or 1.5 ghz in trickstermod and could you post a screenshot of wakelock detector?
in the OP he said that he did that already
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Sorry I didn't see that. Then I am 80% sure the light sensor not working or working wrong. Must to check this. I am sure it is some of the sensors
Thant said:
Sorry I didn't see that. Then I am 80% sure the light sensor not working or working wrong. Must to check this. I am sure it is some of the sensors
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Surely if it's the light sensor it would be irrelevant if it was turned off or on though, same with the CPU. I'm going to spend some time getting power into it today, charge, then put in freezer to cool it, and repeat.
Once some power is into it I'll start with suggestions, one at a time, and get some screen shots up, and logs of the current drain.
Thanks for the help so far, would be good to get it going again, instead of having a $350 paper weight.
An update:
Changed the recovery from Philz recovery to an older CWM recovery program, and now possibly just through coincidence the battery isn't super heating to the point it needs to live in the freezer to charge.
I have restored to stock ROM, and have a couple of pictures of the battery history, which are neither here nor there, apologies as I wiped a lot of things off, including my WLD pictures from the ARHD ROM.
I purchased trickstermod and had a look into the CPU settings, and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Also turned on the dev options of graphic CPU usage on the homescreen - not really showing unusual signs of anything. About to flash the original recovery on and email HTC to see if they might feel sorry enough to accept it as a straight manufacturing defect, without evidence of where we purchased it (as it was a second hand phone off the net).
subscribing to this thread - I have the exact same issue. I have installed CM11 and ParanoidAndroid. Torched and Bubba kernel... turned off lots of stuff.
I have whatsapp, soundcloud and facebook as the only background running apps. not sure what's the issue
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Hello!
I also have a similiar issue.
I noticed, after a while, that my phone keeps dying under 16-18 hrs on idle from full charge.
I thought it1s the battery, since my HOX is 2 years old. Someone suggested, to try some battery monitoring, so i got the battery monitoring widget, after for like 3rd time, the phone turned off overnight.
The problem, is the Light, and the acceleration sensors... they won1t let the phone go to sleep.
I tried turning off locations, and such, also auto rotation, and my back light was never on auto. it is set around 30%
Still, these sensors run, and consume battery like crazy. This started about 2 weeks ago.
I have a stock rom. not the original, since i thought flashing a custom rom might solve this, so i tried ViperX 4.1.1, the problem was still there.
After that, i reflashed an untouched original HTC JB rom.got the latest OTA update, and the problem is still there...
I don't have any apps running in the background, that should require these sensors to run. i always clear multitasking also.
Have Wifi on, but that barely consumes anything.
Any idea, i know this started on Gingerbread, and was supposedly fixed in ICS, but it's still happening to some ppl.
Any help would be appreciated!
Laccee said:
Hello!
I also have a similiar issue.
I noticed, after a while, that my phone keeps dying under 16-18 hrs on idle from full charge.
I thought it1s the battery, since my HOX is 2 years old. Someone suggested, to try some battery monitoring, so i got the battery monitoring widget, after for like 3rd time, the phone turned off overnight.
The problem, is the Light, and the acceleration sensors... they won1t let the phone go to sleep.
I tried turning off locations, and such, also auto rotation, and my back light was never on auto. it is set around 30%
Still, these sensors run, and consume battery like crazy. This started about 2 weeks ago.
I have a stock rom. not the original, since i thought flashing a custom rom might solve this, so i tried ViperX 4.1.1, the problem was still there.
After that, i reflashed an untouched original HTC JB rom.got the latest OTA update, and the problem is still there...
I don't have any apps running in the background, that should require these sensors to run. i always clear multitasking also.
Have Wifi on, but that barely consumes anything.
Any idea, i know this started on Gingerbread, and was supposedly fixed in ICS, but it's still happening to some ppl.
Any help would be appreciated!
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I have checked all the sensors in the testing menu by dialing *#*#3424#*#* and they all turn off and on as required properly. I noticed yesterday that I've actually burnt out the charging system as it has got too hot at one point, so no use pursuing anymore. I will stick with my HOX until it too breaks in some way. Received an email back from HTC saying "Not under warranty, not our problem" after asking if they had had any phones with similar issues pass through.