Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
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Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
derekwilkinson said:
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
arw01 said:
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
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I don't know what is wrong with me (I know this is something I'm doing wrong), this happens EVERY time I have an android phone.
I think I'm not closing an app or something and the battery drained overnight, it happened when I had a G1 and an X10... Anyone experienced that?
Is there a way to close apps properly on Android? I don't want to have to install something to manage whether my apps are open or close, I just want them to close when I'm done with them....
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I don't know what is wrong with me (I know this is something I'm doing wrong), this happens EVERY time I have an android phone.
I think I'm not closing an app or something and the battery drained overnight, it happened when I had a G1 and an X10... Anyone experienced that?
Is there a way to close apps properly on Android? I don't want to have to install something to manage whether my apps are open or close, I just want them to close when I'm done with them....
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Internet.. guessing you dont use it at night so try this.. 2 methods of doing the same thing 1) +/Widgets/Settings/Mobile Network and just toggle that whenever you don't need to use 3g connection, or before you go to bed. 2) Hold Power Button/ Mobile Network and make sure it says Connet to Internet is OFF..
for me, this gives 3 days of battery (also doing some under clocking at night ) loving the phone!
Ive experienced high battery usage on a HTC Desire, a Google nexus one and now on a Samsung Captivate. It always seems to be Android OS and the usage is even higher than display which is ridiculous.
It happens on and off and its really quite annoying. I always think Ive found out what causes it...and then it happens again!
I have to ask the question, but have you regularly been using the same 3rd party applications with each of the phones?
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I have to ask the question, but have you regularly been using the same 3rd party applications with each of the phones?
Regards,
Dave
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I realize the logic behind the question you're asking. Ive noticed android os battery drain without any apps installed (i.e. stock only). It doesnt seem to happen on a regular basis though.
At one time, I was pretty confident it was a generic charger, another time after usb connections and even something associated with google push services.
Not really sure what it could be. Its like those experiments at university where there are way too many variables, so the only option is to sit down and data log until a trend emerges. Frankly, its a phone and its too much time to actually sit down and do that. (Yes I know im lazy )
2-4% battery drain is normal at night, if you have airplane mode on or at least 3G / WiFi data connection off. The drain should be between 2 and 5 mA for most of the time.
There are a few battery related threads, try comparing those results with yours, we did some extensive testing too in one of them.
To pinpoint your problem try one or a combination of these three tools: SystemPanel, Power Tutor, Current Widget (maybe one each night). Let them monitor your system overnight and see what's the result.
I have recently done testing for 4 nights, two with SetCpu underclocking profile at screen off, and two without it. There was no appreciable difference between the four runs.
i use an App to turn on airplane mode over night, i stared with an app called "sweet dream" [Link = http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/sweet-dream_jtvk.html?nav=googleDownload ]
and now use timeriffic [link = http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/timeriffic_tdl.html ]
it really does help the battery life.
Or just plug it in overnight? This seems to work fine for me!!
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Or just plug it in overnight? This seems to work fine for me!!
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Hell yeah, plug it in and turn airplane mode on
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Have you tried conditioning the battery?
Calibrate your battery then reset your battery stats. It could help. If you flashed a rom while charging or during the first boot screen on first boot or on USB, battery calibration will need to be performed. It made a massive difference for me after multiple flashes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Thanks!
I decided to install Advanced Task Killer, all is good now, must have been some app draining it.
Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
But suddenly a few days ago, my phone doesn't sound my alarm in the morning because it had turned its self off.
Imagine my surprise when I had to plug it to start it. Turns out it had drained 60% in little over 3 hours.
So I began testing - turns out my phone had started to fluctuate between -90 and -150 mA EVEN IN AIRPLANE MODE.
After trying countless solutions (inc many different ROMs), I had had enough. I full wiped from CWM and installed fresh ARHD 5.1.6, skipped all setup, installed just titanium, and restored just battery calibration and currentwidget. I calibrated and then left it overnight in airplane mode - and STILL it fluctuated just as wildly.
I wouldn't post this if I hadn't tried everything, but I have spent hours reading xda trying to amend this. Changing radios didn't help (am using latest atm), changing ROM didn't help (not GB or froyo or CM7), even restoring my nandroid from when my battery drain was normal didn't help.
Does anyone have ANY ideas as to why this is happening?
The only thing I can conceivably think of is that my battery is giving up.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry
if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
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if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
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Official batterys are expensive... does HTC do replacements?
not sure, never tried or asked, gotta phone them up!
have you tried turning USB debugging on? that solved it for some people.
i also had this problem, and the USB debug didnt work, but i found that it was something to do with HTC hub repeatedly trying to connect to the internet and using a shed load of CPU in doing so. aeroplane mode didnt help me either, but after turning off everything with HTC in its name it worked again. (specifically HTC sense in accounts and sync)
hope that helps, worth a try.
oh and my battery is fine now, lasts 2 days or so. can last a week though.
still charge it every night though.
Thanks for replying, but USB Debugging was always on for me, and when I tested with fresh install I didn't put ANY accounts in so the HTC thing shouldn't be an issue. i guess I'll just try the replacement battery thing
sometimes the radio signal kept switching also may cause a drain in your battery.
Setting > Mobile networks > Network Mode > Preferred Network Mode
for me i preferred it to be set as 'WCDMA' rather than 'GSM/WCDMA Auto'. The draw back is that i may lost signal if the signal is weak but this setting prevent the radio from being switching.
OKAY GUYS I FIXED IT
How you may ask?
I HAVE NO IDEA
I was just flashing things over trying to fix it and suddenly it went back to normal. I'm currently using a UV kernel, so maybe that's helping too.
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Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
I assume you dont physically wire up an ammeter, or do you?
Ian P
Hahahahahaha, that's brilliant. I'm signaturing that
But no, I don't. The phone creates estimates of the present current/voltage loss, much the same way as it makes estimates of the battery % left.
So all you need is an app to log that! Currentwidget is the lightest, but I recommend battery monitor widget
OK its a battery monitoring app, but can you see the current drain whilst actually using other programmes?
Some apps use full screen so even the top status bar is not visible.
Ian P
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
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CurrentWidget, logging to file :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
Hi,
Is there something wrong with my battery? This is the second time it has happened to me .. last time I left it overnight at 45% and when I woke up the phone was off, so I looked in battery usage and saw that it fell to 0 right from ~25%, and today, I was in an international call, and the call cut off and the phone shut down. It wasn't hot at all, I checked.
Is there some bug with the software, or is it a problem with my battery?
Can you check in the setting menu, where the battery is used for? There must be some or one thing, maybe a constantly updating widget, which is faulty, it really take me 1.5 days before my battery is flat with internet on all the time, and 3 days plus with internet off.
On the other hand I had the same with my lg a while ago and after a flash it was OK.
Sometimes these kind of phones behave very unpredictable....
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PollPixx said:
Can you check in the setting menu, where the battery is used for? There must be some or one thing, maybe a constantly updating widget, which is faulty, it really take me 1.5 days before my battery is flat with internet on all the time, and 3 days plus with internet off.
On the other hand I had the same with my lg a while ago and after a flash it was OK.
Sometimes these kind of phones behave very unpredictable....
sent from arc or optimus 2x
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Oh I'm not worried about the battery life, I was putting it through a lot of use.. and I have a lot of widgets updating frequently
My concern is with the sudden drop from ~25% to 0 which has happened twice now
your battery might be wrongly calibrated.Download battery calibrator from market.charge to 100%,click calibrate battery..it should fix your problem
pngface said:
Hi,
Is there something wrong with my battery? This is the second time it has happened to me .. last time I left it overnight at 45% and when I woke up the phone was off, so I looked in battery usage and saw that it fell to 0 right from ~25%, and today, I was in an international call, and the call cut off and the phone shut down. It wasn't hot at all, I checked.
Is there some bug with the software, or is it a problem with my battery?
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This happened to me few times. The last time I noticed was from ~48% left it overnight (only about 6 hours) and I woke up to find the phone was off. Usually my phone loose about ~25% overnight. Not sure what or who is the culprit. I have flashed few firmwares and none fixed the issue. Currently I'm rooted using Generic World firmware with locked bootloader and removed many bloatwares.
lijinc said:
your battery might be wrongly calibrated.Download battery calibrator from market.charge to 100%,click calibrate battery..it should fix your problem
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I've this program installed and I'm sure it has not helped with this issue. I see "missing data" when there is a sudden loss of battery.
I´ve also the problem; my arc is not rooted, so there is no chance to calibrate the battery...?
Had it once, took the battery out and in again and it had 20% more again. Then I charged it at home and so far it works fine.
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Had it once, took the battery out and in again and it had 20% more again. Then I charged it at home and so far it works fine.
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Thank you. I´ve taken out the battery for about 15 minutes and put it in. The percentage is still as before.
Is there another way to reset the batterystats.bin without root?
Well looks like many people are having this issue, either there are a lot of faulty batteries out there, or its a problem with the firmware. I'm leaning towards the latter.
I'm using Rogers 2.3.3, what are you guys using?
pngface said:
Well looks like many people are having this issue, either there are a lot of faulty batteries out there, or its a problem with the firmware. I'm leaning towards the latter.
I'm using Rogers 2.3.3, what are you guys using?
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I experinced this issue with Singapore generic firmware as well as World Generic (current) firmware. Hence I don't think it could be a specific firmware issue.
Awake
Anyway to find out what or which program kept the phone to stay in awake? As you can see the screenshot, the phone was awake during random times and most of the time without the screen isn't on.
Sorry, no idea,perhaps someone else here can help
For me its probably something like latitude which I set to auto update
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Sorry, no idea,perhaps someone else here can help
For me its probably something like latitude which I set to auto update
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"Latitude"? How can I verify that it doesn't affect me
Latitude comes with Google Maps, its basically a location sharing feature. If you press the menu button in google maps you can click on latitude, then menu button again -> settings, and change from 'Detect Automatically' to 'Manual'
If you don't know what it is I doubt you actually have it enabled anyway, so it could be some weather widget maybe?
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Latitude comes with Google Maps, its basically a location sharing feature. If you press the menu button in google maps you can click on latitude, then menu button again -> settings, and change from 'Detect Automatically' to 'Manual'
If you don't know what it is I doubt you actually have it enabled anyway, so it could be some weather widget maybe?
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I checked and my menu reads as "Join Latitude" which means I have not enabled it in the first place (I guess so).
I'm using Beautiful widget for weather service so not sure whether that is the culprit.
I wish there is more visibility for this .
Thanks for your explanations .
Btw I tried the Supercharger script, and it has doubled my battery life
(You need root)
I chose options 1,6,17
Here it happened again today early morning!!
prathaban said:
Here it happened again today early morning!!
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Your wifi seems to be a bit spotty
Hopefully SE will see this thread and fix the issue in the next update
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Your wifi seems to be a bit spotty
Hopefully SE will see this thread and fix the issue in the next update
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May be due to the "Green Power" application. I checked before and if I switch on the WiFi it is continues without any problem.
I too hope for the same as you. Annoying bug .
I have the very same problem. The phone battery goes from 100% to 66-64 over the night...showing that the Cell standby and Display has drained the most of the %...
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
Checkout this thread to see if the gsiff_daemon is your problem. tl;dr when the system is hot and tearing through the battery, go to system settings -> Developer options -> and check Show CPU usage. If gsiff_daemon is the top or second highest on the list, then that is your problem. To solve it for the moment, use system tuner, or something else, to kill gsiff_daemon. There is no permanent cure at the moment, other than to delete gsiff_daemon. Both of those fixes require root, the non-root fix is to reboot.
If gsiff_daemon is not on the list, then something else is the problem, but Show CPU Usage should give you an idea of what system process is running hard.
Samsung Push problem
J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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Interesting, I installed "micro cpu monitor" shows thin line at top of screen showing both cores.
I haven't had this happen for some time now but after playing with google play and maps downloading offline maps etc I noticed my 2nd core pegged out.
Having seen this in the past & ignoring it I now realize that majorly drains the battery as well as it getting warm.
A simple reboot seems to be the only thing that fixes it. Clearing ram and closing recent screens dies nothing to clear the "cpu jam".
If left alone, it always shows the culprit as "android system"
As to what part of "android system" I don't know.
But until we figure this out for good, that little micro cpu monitor. App is sweet for peace of mind to know all is well or whether a reboot is needed. For what it's worth, I also noticed that after the event, that my auto rotate to landscape was mysteriously unchecked?
If it jams again, I'll have to see if it gets unchecked again, unknown if there is a relation.
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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That happened to me too. But for me, flashing another rom fixed it.
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Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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Swaggernaut said:
Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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No there is a cwm flashable fix floating around here for that
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do any of you guys have the "increase volume in pocket" setting on in phone-->settings?
also do any of you have motion settings enabled and/or autorotation on?
Seems it has to do with the gyro issue
also are you guys rooted or non-rooted?
Contact sync?
i noticed this today and while troubleshooting, noticed contact sync from google says "sync is currently experiencing problems..." maybe?
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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I read the thread about gsiff_daemon culprit. I had it listed as a possible battery drain culprit. The thread says the issue may happen after a hot reboot...which I did have. Killing gsiff_daemon was not immediately effective. I renamed the file so it wouldn't get used...like the thread recommended. I had to reboot to get normal battery drain back and have yet to see the issue again. But i wont know for some time...or maybe when/if i get a hot reboot...which is really rare. Do yourself a favor, and buy better battery stats. Its a must have tool...and it's not expensive.
I wonder if this problem has been solved with latest lj7 jellybean from sprint
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so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
eatonjb said:
so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
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My experience with froyo/gb/ics is that things have been getting progressively better over the years. But with each so called UPGRADE of an OS or even APPS, we often have to deal with bugs or incompatibilities. I am eager to upgrade to a stock based JB soon, but wisdom says, for 20 things improved, there will be 5 things broken....or hurting in some way. Early adopters suffer the most as usually these issues get ironed out...most of them.
BUT...these stuck drains...wake locks etc., it seems they will happen when they do no matter how many issues get fixed. Over the years, I've had random standby drains caused by Maps/Nav. Maybe it's ok for months, then after a particular update, it's back...and unpredictable. The YES...a reboot, just like with a PC, is a quick short term workaround.
Finally, with the App CURRENT WIDGET, there is a provision to watch for high drain in standby. It watches MilliAmp (ma) readings over time..to determine if you have a rogue drain. That's different than monitoring the CPU. (Some drains do not cause much CPU activity) BUT UNFORTUNATELY, that app won't work with our S3's because of a lack of hardware support. Works great with HTC and many others. It's a bummer because I used to use it and have my HD2 reboot if a 15min consecutive high drain was recorded in standby....thereby saving the battery and usually killing the bug.
Crapppp
Jellybean didn’t solve it. Gsiff_daemon just popped up for me. Just renamed it AGAIN.
Hopefully it won't pop up again
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Me and my partner both have HTC ONE x's, Endeavouru, round a similar age, but her phone recently started draining battery.
Both running ARHD, with the same kernels. First I checked if apps were responsible, wiped and reflashed the ROM and kernel both.
This did not work, so then checked battery health with *#*#4636#*#* - showing the battery was in good health, but then replaced the battery anyway to eliminate any possibility of this being the culprit.
Now it's still giving massive drain - a charge up to 100% will last up to 5 hours of standby, with only mobile network activity turned on, all other radios off.
Been throughout the forums and other websites looking for any solutions to this problem but not striking any luck. Tried resetting the radio, changing it to LTE (Not even available where we are), and back etc, as one thread suggested, turned radio completely off and back on. Tried super cleaning the system before reflashing the ROM, tried a different kernel, an AOSP ROM, and still no luck.
It just all of a sudden started to do it, similar conditions to my phone, which makes it harder to pinpoint.
Any new idea's to bring to the table, open to any.
nb: Posted in wrong forum earlier, my bad.
goentillsundown said:
Me and my partner both have HTC ONE x's, Endeavouru, round a similar age, but her phone recently started draining battery.
Both running ARHD, with the same kernels. First I checked if apps were responsible, wiped and reflashed the ROM and kernel both.
This did not work, so then checked battery health with *#*#4636#*#* - showing the battery was in good health, but then replaced the battery anyway to eliminate any possibility of this being the culprit.
Now it's still giving massive drain - a charge up to 100% will last up to 5 hours of standby, with only mobile network activity turned on, all other radios off.
Been throughout the forums and other websites looking for any solutions to this problem but not striking any luck. Tried resetting the radio, changing it to LTE (Not even available where we are), and back etc, as one thread suggested, turned radio completely off and back on. Tried super cleaning the system before reflashing the ROM, tried a different kernel, an AOSP ROM, and still no luck.
It just all of a sudden started to do it, similar conditions to my phone, which makes it harder to pinpoint.
Any new idea's to bring to the table, open to any.
nb: Posted in wrong forum earlier, my bad.
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try downloading wakelock detector and seeing what keeps the phone awake and then uninstalling/reducing its privileges
the privileges part can be done with xposed and a module called appops
suljo94 said:
try downloading wakelock detector and seeing what keeps the phone awake and then uninstalling/reducing its privileges
the privileges part can be done with xposed and a module called appops
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Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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Looks like faulty battery, try change the battery with new one and see what will happend
goentillsundown said:
Well an update to this thread...
Went to install wakelock on the phone after having it turned off for a few days, the battery was drained and now every time I try charging, regardless of what I use re ac/computer/original/aftermarket charging equipment, all it does is heat up to about 58 degrees C and stop charging - with phone off or on.
Sucks as it seems to be a manufacturing fault, but since I've rooted it, and purchased 2nd hand, looks like one for the rubbish bin
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check if your cpu is stuck at 100% or 1.5 ghz in trickstermod and could you post a screenshot of wakelock detector?
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Looks like faulty battery, try change the battery with new one and see what will happend
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in the OP he said that he did that already
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check if your cpu is stuck at 100% or 1.5 ghz in trickstermod and could you post a screenshot of wakelock detector?
in the OP he said that he did that already
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Sorry I didn't see that. Then I am 80% sure the light sensor not working or working wrong. Must to check this. I am sure it is some of the sensors
Thant said:
Sorry I didn't see that. Then I am 80% sure the light sensor not working or working wrong. Must to check this. I am sure it is some of the sensors
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Surely if it's the light sensor it would be irrelevant if it was turned off or on though, same with the CPU. I'm going to spend some time getting power into it today, charge, then put in freezer to cool it, and repeat.
Once some power is into it I'll start with suggestions, one at a time, and get some screen shots up, and logs of the current drain.
Thanks for the help so far, would be good to get it going again, instead of having a $350 paper weight.
An update:
Changed the recovery from Philz recovery to an older CWM recovery program, and now possibly just through coincidence the battery isn't super heating to the point it needs to live in the freezer to charge.
I have restored to stock ROM, and have a couple of pictures of the battery history, which are neither here nor there, apologies as I wiped a lot of things off, including my WLD pictures from the ARHD ROM.
I purchased trickstermod and had a look into the CPU settings, and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Also turned on the dev options of graphic CPU usage on the homescreen - not really showing unusual signs of anything. About to flash the original recovery on and email HTC to see if they might feel sorry enough to accept it as a straight manufacturing defect, without evidence of where we purchased it (as it was a second hand phone off the net).
subscribing to this thread - I have the exact same issue. I have installed CM11 and ParanoidAndroid. Torched and Bubba kernel... turned off lots of stuff.
I have whatsapp, soundcloud and facebook as the only background running apps. not sure what's the issue
sensors drain battery
Hello!
I also have a similiar issue.
I noticed, after a while, that my phone keeps dying under 16-18 hrs on idle from full charge.
I thought it1s the battery, since my HOX is 2 years old. Someone suggested, to try some battery monitoring, so i got the battery monitoring widget, after for like 3rd time, the phone turned off overnight.
The problem, is the Light, and the acceleration sensors... they won1t let the phone go to sleep.
I tried turning off locations, and such, also auto rotation, and my back light was never on auto. it is set around 30%
Still, these sensors run, and consume battery like crazy. This started about 2 weeks ago.
I have a stock rom. not the original, since i thought flashing a custom rom might solve this, so i tried ViperX 4.1.1, the problem was still there.
After that, i reflashed an untouched original HTC JB rom.got the latest OTA update, and the problem is still there...
I don't have any apps running in the background, that should require these sensors to run. i always clear multitasking also.
Have Wifi on, but that barely consumes anything.
Any idea, i know this started on Gingerbread, and was supposedly fixed in ICS, but it's still happening to some ppl.
Any help would be appreciated!
Laccee said:
Hello!
I also have a similiar issue.
I noticed, after a while, that my phone keeps dying under 16-18 hrs on idle from full charge.
I thought it1s the battery, since my HOX is 2 years old. Someone suggested, to try some battery monitoring, so i got the battery monitoring widget, after for like 3rd time, the phone turned off overnight.
The problem, is the Light, and the acceleration sensors... they won1t let the phone go to sleep.
I tried turning off locations, and such, also auto rotation, and my back light was never on auto. it is set around 30%
Still, these sensors run, and consume battery like crazy. This started about 2 weeks ago.
I have a stock rom. not the original, since i thought flashing a custom rom might solve this, so i tried ViperX 4.1.1, the problem was still there.
After that, i reflashed an untouched original HTC JB rom.got the latest OTA update, and the problem is still there...
I don't have any apps running in the background, that should require these sensors to run. i always clear multitasking also.
Have Wifi on, but that barely consumes anything.
Any idea, i know this started on Gingerbread, and was supposedly fixed in ICS, but it's still happening to some ppl.
Any help would be appreciated!
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I have checked all the sensors in the testing menu by dialing *#*#3424#*#* and they all turn off and on as required properly. I noticed yesterday that I've actually burnt out the charging system as it has got too hot at one point, so no use pursuing anymore. I will stick with my HOX until it too breaks in some way. Received an email back from HTC saying "Not under warranty, not our problem" after asking if they had had any phones with similar issues pass through.