And what does that mean?
Does it mean they are s-off, or does it mean you can run any RUU without a goldcard or getting "Your device is newer than update" hboot error messages?
I assume whatever Hboot we'll still be able to root with unrEVOked so what will be the advantage?
Matt
Desire never had locked bootloader.
Ok I'm obviously a bit confused with my terminology I assumed that as they had baked s-on into the kernel necessitating users to boot their pc into a custom linux distro to flash a hboot that had the s-on check disabled constituted a locked bootloader.
So will we still have to do all that with the gingerbread updates whatever?
I don't think that unlocked bootloader means s-off, its too risky for htc.... But they will be able to root& flash other roms than the official...just like they were before the desire s and sensation series
Sent from my HTC Desire
That is yet to be confirmed...
I wont install the official Update and wait for some developer to cook a Rom based on Stock GB,... maybe just for stability..
One question tikles my mind... I have S-OFF... and had made a nandroid backup of my FW... its Sim unlocked Desire via sim unlock sim utility...
Whether I can connect to internet to get Official update or not?
Related
I had a previous thread before but it seems to be deleted... sorry?
ive followed threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Ah i ok i just thought because i have S-OFF, i would be able to install the stock rom it anyway, so ive done that and installed the stock PD98IMG 1.32.405.6
Is there anything else i need to do to prevent the phone from locking again? also ive read about this clockworkmod recovery and rom manager.... is that needed to keep my unlock or anything? thanks again guys.
You do not need to do anything anymore, your phone will remain unlocked until you lock it again using Radio S-OFF tool.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Also i have set my "CID" to stock HTC__001, but im not sure what this is meant to do as it seems to have made no difference?
... and your saying that for my phone to become locked again, i would have to change it to s-off, then click "sim unlock" again?
The radio S-OFF tool does not change your software CID, it changes the bootloader CID. So there it makes huge difference. You can try it, you no longer need a goldcard
For your phone to become locked, yes, you have to select S-ON and put your branded CID to your phone (if your phone is branded, that is). The SimUnlock cannot be undone, and it does not matter, because anybody can unlock their phones when they just pay for the code. The difference is that radio tool is free.
thanks for the reply mate..
i just have one question "For your phone to become locked, yes, you have to select S-ON and put your branded CID to your phone"... i have put S-On back, as i was worried i would make changes by accident to the nand so i put it back to s-On just incase, and my phone isnt locked its still unlocked?
... also im not following you with the CID idea, the phone was/is branded to Orange UK, so i set the CID to stock HTC__001, but this has made no differerence and still seems to be branded...?
and when you say it changes the boot loader CID, do you mean the white recovery screen etc? and when you said it makes a huge difference, what do you mean by that?
You say that your phone is still unlocked after S-ON, what do you mean by that? You cannot install a custom rom, so it is not unlocked. Root is possible with S-ON, but try modifying something in /system/..
And what do you mean about phone still being branded after HTC__001? The CID is just a permission to install different ROMs from different sources, for example HTC__001 allows you to flash any WWE ROM. You probably had ORANG001, with that it was not possible to flash HTC WWE ROM.
by unlocked i mean, can accept any simcard from any network, for example i am using an o2 simcard in it. it is S-ON, im just wanting to make sure i dont lose my unlock.
also what does WWE mean. sorry for the noobness guys.
My HBOOT presently outputs:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
MICROP-0354
RADIO-09.00.0824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
kalaker said:
My HBOOT presently outputs:
I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
It is not confirmed, but it seems to be Out Of Warranty because if you flash this bootloader HTC will reject warranty
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
Yes, you can. Use my tool again and choose the third option "superversion"
Afterwards flash a STOCK RUU and hboot will be downgraded as well.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
I don't know, but S-OFFing again is no problem if it really goes away.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
If you downgrade HBOOT it will neither show LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED because the standard hboots do not check this.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
10 chars. my answers in red.
When you say to flash a stock RUU do you mean one of the ones from HTC Dev or elsewhere? Can you provide a link. If it would help, I have a marvelc with Virgin Mobile US.
In the dev section there is a thread where many many stock rom RUUs are. so take a look at there. it's one of the sticky posts.
To downgrade your bootloader, since your s-off just take the ruu with the bootloader of your choice. Extract the rom.zip. open it up and you will find a file called bootloader or hboot or something to that effect. Take that file and the android update.txt file. Zip them both up and rename it pg76img.zip
Put it in the root if your sdcard and boot into hboot. The phone will find the update and just flash it. Done
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
Is there a specific ROM I should be running? Using simonsimon34's CM7 port and with my PC running Windows 8 Consumer Preview (with HTC Drivers) I am told that the RUU utility is unable to find the Android phone.
Do I need a ROM with HTC Sync?
Which method are you trying?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
I'm just trying to run the RUU.exe.
EDIT: I installed Vista and so far it appears to work. I'm going to wait until later to actually go all the way through. (I just went far enough for it to verify my "PDA phone".)
Might just have been your win 8 pal.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
Hiya folks!
I unlocked my daughter Wildfire S hboot via HTC-Dev when it was first released and upgraded from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 EU to get rid of the 3 bloatware on the original rom, I did not root at the time as it was still in its very infant stage and did not wish to give my daughter my Rooted Desire through bricking hers!
Now the time has come to root as she is constantly telling me of a space shortage...I know we've all been there..so thinking the Hboot was still unlocked I ran through HTC super tool 3 , tried a couple of times with no success so realized there must be something I've missed, I checked the hboot was still unlocked in the pink text I believe it was to find that it no longer states unlocked, locked or any extra text just,
Marvel PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.08.0000
RADIO-7.53.39.03M
OCT 31 2011,20:38:16
So my question is what is the next step? can I unlock it again some how?, I've rooted and I rom hop constantly with my Desire but this phone is being a royal pain! So did the upgrade relock the Hboot? cheers in advance folks,
Android Version 2.3.5
Sense 2.1
Soft Number 2.13.401.2
Go to htcdev and follow instructions to unlock your bootloader.Once it's unlocked, you should see "UNLOCKED" at the top when you boot ur phone.
And then you can root the phone.
Sent from my HTC A510e using xda premium
OK Ta I wondered if I had to do it again, I guess as I have already updated to 2.3.5 from the first time I can skip that part and precede to straight step 1 ?
Did you tried this? I had problem with rooting my wfs, I can't find script i used right now. I'll update this post if i will find it.
What happened is that the 2.3.5 update changed your HBOOT from the previous one.......Go to htcdev.com start the unlock process and when prompted to download an RUU........ just download the RUU with the software more than the one you are having..... in your case the Europe RUU and just follow the instructions thereafter.....
Right got 'ERROR 190 ROM IS NOT SUPPORTED' please upgrade to 2.13.401.3 to apply this RUU, can I use a different RUU csoulr66 other than EU?
Wish I'd done this in one hit rather than in parts! Thanks in advance all!!!
You're 100% sure that you grabbed proper RUU? According to error you get and htcdev it should be this:
HTC EU 2.13.401.3 PG7610000 - sry can't give you direct link because of forum limitation for users under 8 posts
have you made a goldcard????? Because you will need one to run an RUU
csoulr666 said:
have you made a goldcard????? Because you will need one to run an RUU
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a unlocked phone but I never hear about goldcard, are you sure it's needed ?
A goldcard is used to debrand the CID. Without a goldcard, you cant install diags/downgrade/etc because the CID is branded with your carrier.
I had this problem originally, all you have to do is run a stock rom RUU (From the list supplied by football in the stickies) with a goldcard. Then go back to the HTC dev website and upgrade the hboot.
Sent from my Wildfire S using XDA
All done, I could not down load any of the links from 'footballs' thread, busy..no free slots etc , so I found a Spanish site and upgraded to 'Europe_2.13.401.3_Radio_47.23c.35.3037_7.54.39.28M_release_236989' then all worked as it should following the instructions on the HTC DEV site, rooted and running SENSELESS_2.3.5_jermzii_v.1.2, thanks all!!
Managed to get an ICS Rom on my HTC Legend.
I've got my hands on a Desire now and I'd like to do the same.
K900 and Sandvold both have pretty spiffy roms, what are the differences?
Once I unlock the bootloader what additional steps are there compared to the legend?
Thanks
The steps are basicaly the same for Desire and Legend, but depending on ur hboot version, it could be easier to use unrevoked or revolutionary instead of official bootloader unlock because those tools are rooting the phone at the same time. The difference between s-off and htc bootloader unlock is that s-off unlocks radio partition and one more, im unsure witch.
Hi ,
I unlocked many new devices and now i get an M8 device with HTC dev unlock.
My last HTC was a desire s, so iam not up to date with HTC at the moment.
If i know a way to flash an unlocked hboot.img to mmcblk0p11 can i get troubles with THW phone?
HTC sells soff full unlocked devices, if i flash this partition to my device and Boot to bootloader and change then my cid must the m8 work normaly,right?
I want flash it not with the board HTC methode, but direct partition to partition.
If someone tried this vor can give me infos that wäre nice.
THX for help
Can't be done. Only way to get S-OFF is to use Sunshine
i dont think so.
Tried it with my desire x. Rootet and s-on. but for this device i had an hboot image from the same cid model.
What do you mean with that cant be done?
That its not possible because HTC security mechanism give me info like "is not possible because of..." or you mean the flash goes well but after that flash the device make trouble?
THX for help
Without S-OFF you have no access to any other partitions other than those required to flash a new ROM
Backup
EddyOS said:
Without S-OFF you have no access to any other partitions other than those required to flash a new ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats not right in all. Some ways are always there. I have made a backup of every partition from the M8 now.
I could flash it with a little trick, get no error message but i try it first with my old Sensation XE. Iam loooking for a Hboot right now for the XE and then i trust me to give the M8 a shot.
I will post what is happening
But you can't write the data back onto the phone without S-OFF