[Q] Keeping HTC DEsire HD unlocked - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I had a previous thread before but it seems to be deleted... sorry?
ive followed threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Ah i ok i just thought because i have S-OFF, i would be able to install the stock rom it anyway, so ive done that and installed the stock PD98IMG 1.32.405.6
Is there anything else i need to do to prevent the phone from locking again? also ive read about this clockworkmod recovery and rom manager.... is that needed to keep my unlock or anything? thanks again guys.

You do not need to do anything anymore, your phone will remain unlocked until you lock it again using Radio S-OFF tool.
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Also i have set my "CID" to stock HTC__001, but im not sure what this is meant to do as it seems to have made no difference?
... and your saying that for my phone to become locked again, i would have to change it to s-off, then click "sim unlock" again?

The radio S-OFF tool does not change your software CID, it changes the bootloader CID. So there it makes huge difference. You can try it, you no longer need a goldcard
For your phone to become locked, yes, you have to select S-ON and put your branded CID to your phone (if your phone is branded, that is). The SimUnlock cannot be undone, and it does not matter, because anybody can unlock their phones when they just pay for the code. The difference is that radio tool is free.

thanks for the reply mate..
i just have one question "For your phone to become locked, yes, you have to select S-ON and put your branded CID to your phone"... i have put S-On back, as i was worried i would make changes by accident to the nand so i put it back to s-On just incase, and my phone isnt locked its still unlocked?
... also im not following you with the CID idea, the phone was/is branded to Orange UK, so i set the CID to stock HTC__001, but this has made no differerence and still seems to be branded...?
and when you say it changes the boot loader CID, do you mean the white recovery screen etc? and when you said it makes a huge difference, what do you mean by that?

You say that your phone is still unlocked after S-ON, what do you mean by that? You cannot install a custom rom, so it is not unlocked. Root is possible with S-ON, but try modifying something in /system/..
And what do you mean about phone still being branded after HTC__001? The CID is just a permission to install different ROMs from different sources, for example HTC__001 allows you to flash any WWE ROM. You probably had ORANG001, with that it was not possible to flash HTC WWE ROM.

by unlocked i mean, can accept any simcard from any network, for example i am using an o2 simcard in it. it is S-ON, im just wanting to make sure i dont lose my unlock.
also what does WWE mean. sorry for the noobness guys.

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[Q] SIM Unlock / CID: ORANG001

Hi All
I've done all the steps in making my phone an unbranded one and flashed custom ROM Revolution with Sense 3.0. My CID still says ORANG001 in the bootloader screen. Does it mean that it's still locked? When I used the one click tool it said it has done everything on the screen. Only thing is I haven't got another SIM near by to test it whether it's unlocked or not.
Many Thanks...
No it is not unlocked. Why? Because you did not follow the requirements of the tool. Your firmware is not suitable for the process.
Right man for the job! I've used your tool Sir! So you're saying I should have done the unlocking when I had it downgraded before flashing this new Revolution HD 2.3.5. Am I correct? So if I revert back to 1.32 with the help of Clockwork/Boot Loader then I would be able to unlock it.
Many Thanks...
Yeah, just put the PD98IMG.zip into your SD card again, and go to the bootloader. You should be familiar with the process. You do not need to do any command line stuff
Then use visionary and radio s-off tool again.

[Q] HBOOT Downgrade

My HBOOT presently outputs:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
MARVELC EVT1 SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
MICROP-0354
RADIO-09.00.0824
Dec 21 2011, 12:14:03
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I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
kalaker said:
My HBOOT presently outputs:
I used the HTCDEV unlock to unlock until I found the GoldCard S-OFF method to S-OFF and S-OFF, as we all know > Unlocked bootloader. I used theq86's tool to relock to the original state.
My first question is: what does the "OOW" mean? I have that it means "Out of Warranty" and that it means absolutely nothing.
It is not confirmed, but it seems to be Out Of Warranty because if you flash this bootloader HTC will reject warranty
My second question is: can I downgrade to my original HBOOT? I do not the remember the version, but I'm sure someone out there knows.
Yes, you can. Use my tool again and choose the third option "superversion"
Afterwards flash a STOCK RUU and hboot will be downgraded as well.
My third question: if I downgrade HBOOT, will I lose S-OFF? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to have my GoldCard ready.
I don't know, but S-OFFing again is no problem if it really goes away.
Fourth: If I downgrade to the original HBOOT will it still report "LOCKED (OOW)" or will it just say "LOCKED" and does that have any benefit over "LOCKED (OOW)" (I have heard that it does when sending the phone back to HTC.
If you downgrade HBOOT it will neither show LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED because the standard hboots do not check this.
I simply want my phone to look as stock as possible (with the exception of my ROM, which can easily be stocked) in case it needs to be sent to HTC.
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10 chars. my answers in red.
When you say to flash a stock RUU do you mean one of the ones from HTC Dev or elsewhere? Can you provide a link. If it would help, I have a marvelc with Virgin Mobile US.
In the dev section there is a thread where many many stock rom RUUs are. so take a look at there. it's one of the sticky posts.
To downgrade your bootloader, since your s-off just take the ruu with the bootloader of your choice. Extract the rom.zip. open it up and you will find a file called bootloader or hboot or something to that effect. Take that file and the android update.txt file. Zip them both up and rename it pg76img.zip
Put it in the root if your sdcard and boot into hboot. The phone will find the update and just flash it. Done
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Is there a specific ROM I should be running? Using simonsimon34's CM7 port and with my PC running Windows 8 Consumer Preview (with HTC Drivers) I am told that the RUU utility is unable to find the Android phone.
Do I need a ROM with HTC Sync?
Which method are you trying?
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I'm just trying to run the RUU.exe.
EDIT: I installed Vista and so far it appears to work. I'm going to wait until later to actually go all the way through. (I just went far enough for it to verify my "PDA phone".)
Might just have been your win 8 pal.
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Debrand o2 one X

I have a branded o2 Htc One x, can I just flash it with a ruu file from a genric model or do I have to still unlock the bootloader ect?
I don't really want to ruin the warranty.
Flashing a s3 was easy but seems alot more when it comes to this handset and so many threads and not sure which to follow.
Help!!
jazzy said:
I have a branded o2 Htc One x, can I just flash it with a ruu file from a genric model or do I have to still unlock the bootloader ect?
I don't really want to ruin the warranty.
Flashing a s3 was easy but seems alot more when it comes to this handset and so many threads and not sure which to follow.
Help!!
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you need S-off to flash any ruu, if you unlock the bootloader, flash CWM you can flash a custom rom or just delete all the o2 bloatware but it'll still have the o2 CID
seanicca said:
you need S-off to flash any ruu, if you unlock the bootloader, flash CWM you can flash a custom rom or just delete all the o2 bloatware but it'll still have the o2 CID
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You dont need s-off to flash any ruu maybe to debrand the phone but not any
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You need S-Off to get super CID to flash an RUU with a CID that does not match the CID your phone came with.
If you want to be able to flash any RUU (as opposed to a few particular RUUs) you need S-Off.
English language allows for ambiguity

[Q] Can i flash JB rom with Sense with CID: 11111111?

Hi,
I would like to flash the newest InsertCoin rom to my One X, but i can't figure out if it will work.
In this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920060 it says that i need a certain CID - and my CID is 111111, so it doesn't match (and i tried to change it, but can't).
So - does anyone know if it will work?
And if it doesn't work, will it brick my phone og will i loose any information? (i made a backup in recovery)
fakta said:
Hi,
I would like to flash the newest InsertCoin rom to my One X, but i can't figure out if it will work.
In this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920060 it says that i need a certain CID - and my CID is 111111, so it doesn't match (and i tried to change it, but can't).
So - does anyone know if it will work?
And if it doesn't work, will it brick my phone og will i loose any information? (i made a backup in recovery)
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your CID doesn't support the latest JB Firmware...so DO NOT FLASH THAT!
Hmm... That's not what i was hoping for...
So i will have to find a way to change my CID...?
Do you know how i got that CID? As far as i can read, everybody else has more "random" CID's... I'm an HTC ambassador (i work at a phone company in Denmark) so maybe i got a pre-production model?
fakta said:
Hmm... That's not what i was hoping for...
So i will have to find a way to change my CID...?
Do you know how i got that CID? As far as i can read, everybody else has more "random" CID's... I'm an HTC ambassador (i work at a phone company in Denmark) so maybe i got a pre-production model?
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you can't change your CID cause you are not S-OFF.... you will have to wait.... every phone has a different cid
Dammit...
Thanks for the help anyway
I actually considered flashing it just to try, but i think you just saved my phone...
And i suppose no one knows when we will get S-OFF...?
You know... i might be missing something here, but isn't CID - 11111111 SuperCID??
Surely that would mean the device is already S-Off??
In recovery it says from the top:
UNLOCKED
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
and so on...
I'm guessing that means it is ON?
Yeah that means it's S-ON, but if you had CID 11111111 then thats SuperCID and the CID restrictions wouldn't apply to you.
I don't quite understand how you can have a SuperCID device thats S-On, but if it's a special one from HTC, then who knows?
Mines the same. Weird combo from what I've been reading on here... hopefully there'll no more restrictions or anything... no waiting until every other CID has it first!
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Brownie2k said:
Yeah that means it's S-ON, but if you had CID 11111111 then thats SuperCID and the CID restrictions wouldn't apply to you.
I don't quite understand how you can have a SuperCID device thats S-On, but if it's a special one from HTC, then who knows?
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So in other words i can "safely" flash the JB rom?
If it doesn't work anyway, can i get back to ICS without a wipe?
I think i'm just about to get VERY happy
If you do have CID: 11111111 then yes, i'd say you can safely flash the new HBOOT, BUT because you're not S-Off, you can't go back to HBOOT 1.12.
You need to make a nandroid backup of you ICS Rom so if you don't like Jellybean, then you can go back to ICS through restoring. Beware though, things like CM10 etc don't work on the new HBOOT at the moment.
did you try fastboot oem writecid HTC_001 while in bootloader ? if device stops responding until reboot it means it wont work
Yes you can..my HOX has S-OFF and SuperCid and i was able to flash the new hboot.
volcomnator999 said:
Yes you can..my HOX has S-OFF and SuperCid and i was able to flash the new hboot.
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Not all SuperCID devices are S-Off. S-Off also allows you to flash an older hboot, which cannot be done with SuperCID alone.
Yes this looks like superCID but I don't know if it will support the JB firmware... Better not to try
matt95 said:
Yes this looks like superCID but I don't know if it will support the JB firmware... Better not to try
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The worst that could happen is that the new hboot is rejected. That's seems like an entirely recoverable scenario.
Then what does SUPER CID mean if you cannot flash the new Hboot, so it isn't that SUPER!
webpatrick said:
Then what does SUPER CID mean if you cannot flash the new Hboot, so it isn't that SUPER!
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It means you can run any RUU
It will support the new HBOOT i'd imagine, If you've got SuperCID it's like being region free.
I can't see why it wouldn't work, it's worked for other people, thats one of the advantages of being S-Off, so you can SuperCID and flash any HBOOT (+Downgrade if you're S-Off)
Brownie2k said:
It will support the new HBOOT i'd imagine, If you've got SuperCID it's like being region free.
I can't see why it wouldn't work, it's worked for other people, thats one of the advantages of being S-Off, so you can SuperCID and flash any HBOOT (+Downgrade if you're S-Off)
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He is not s-off

[Q] Relock to send back to Verizon

Hello, just a quick question. I had my One rooted, s-off, and unlocked when my microphone went. So I relocked, s-on, and flashed an RUU via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475216. Just making sure that before I pack it in the box, there is nothing else that could trip the people at Verizon that I had messed with my phone. I took the OTAs up to 4.3. I'm just paranoid about info not matching up such as the baseband version and build number etc. Thanks
Does the bootloader say locked or relocked? Locked is good relocked not so much. Other than that you should be fine. Ruu's wipe everything and install it all fresh, including the firmware (baseband, hboot, recovery, etc), so everything will match up.
In the bootloader I have "Locked" also s-on. I noticed though with the refurbished phone I received (not happy about having to get refurbished but thats besides the point) the CID number shows in the bootloader screen whereas on my original phone it is not displayed. Not sure if I even need to be this worried, but I'm just paranoid. Thanks
Are both phones on the same hboot version? I dont remember if it showed in older hboots or not. Either way i wouldn't worry, locked and s-on is all you need.
No they weren't. I'm just going to stop worrying too much about it. Thanks
If i send my phone back to verizon do i have to be on the original ROM? i understand that i need to lock my bootloader and have s-on, but what about the software itself?
It can be on stock rom/firmware of any version. Just no custom roms or anything.
Just to confirm, if I have a phone that is S-OFF, unlocked:
1. Do I need to lock the bootloader before flashing an RUU?
2. Does flashing an RUU revert the phone to S-ON?
3. Does anything special otherwise need to be done to the phone prior to flashing the RUU?
Thanks so much in advance.
I also have to return a phone to VZW due to a hardware issue (the autofocus issue finally too much for me to bear).
You only need to relock the bootloader if using a signed ruu. A decrypted ruu does not need it locked.
Flashing an ruu will not remove s-off or relock the bootloader. You can do it before or after, but i sugest after, that way if something goes wrong durring the ruu, you still have options.
Once you do the ruu you will be stock. So the only thing you would have to do is relock and go s-on.
Fantastically clear, Clumsco, thanks! Three quick additional questions
1. is there any advantage to flashing the signed RUU, and adding danger by locking the bootloader beforehand? In your links below your signature is a path to both decrypted and signed versions of the latest RUUs. So I thought to ask before going with one or the other. If there is no advantage then I guess the decrypted version would be the safer bet, right?
2. Is there a danger that locking after the RUU will result in a "relocked" versus the desired "Locked" status?
3. Will the RUU flash wipe my /sdcard area? If so I'll back everything up before embarking on this.
I VERY much appreciate the help. I ran rumrunner several months back and have forgotten a lot of the nuances. Thanks for the quick primer!
cmlusco said:
You only need to relock the bootloader if using a signed ruu. A decrypted ruu does not need it locked.
Flashing an ruu will not remove s-off or relock the bootloader. You can do it before or after, but i sugest after, that way if something goes wrong durring the ruu, you still have options.
Once you do the ruu you will be stock. So the only thing you would have to do is relock and go s-on.
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There is no difference between a signed and decrypted ruu other than what their names suggest. Ones signed ones not, both do the exact same thing to the phone.
You can lock the bootloader first. As long as you still have s-off, you have a saftey net. As long as your s-off you can change it to say what ever you want it to say. Locked, relocked, or unlocked.
Yes the ruu will wipe everything.
You will want to back up your sd.
Do the ruu.
Take the ota to kitkat.
Lock the bootloader.
Go s-on.
Thanks, everything worked. For future knowledge, can you flash signed RUU's with an S-ON device?
cmlusco said:
There is no difference between a signed and decrypted ruu other than what their names suggest. Ones signed ones not, both do the exact same thing to the phone.
You can lock the bootloader first. As long as you still have s-off, you have a saftey net. As long as your s-off you can change it to say what ever you want it to say. Locked, relocked, or unlocked.
Yes the ruu will wipe everything.
You will want to back up your sd.
Do the ruu.
Take the ota to kitkat.
Lock the bootloader.
Go s-on.
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Yes and no. You can flash a signed ruu if s-on, but not one that is an older version than currently on the phone. It has to be the same or a newer version. This is an issue if your on kitkat, as we do not currently have a kk ruu available.
cmlusco said:
Yes and no. You can flash a signed ruu if s-on, but not one that is an older version than currently on the phone. It has to be the same or a newer version. This is an issue if your on kitkat, as we do not currently have a kk ruu available.
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I'm trying to learn here too, that is dependent on the hboot correct? So if you were to downgrade your hboot via the thread somewhere in the VZW HTC One forum, you should be able to flash any RUU right?
Technically yes, although as far as i know there is no way to do so while s-on and locked. In order to downgrade hboot you would need to have the bootloader unlocked. Since verizon does not let us use htcdev to unlock, it would be virtually imposible.
Your responses are clear and helpful. Thanks a bunch!
cmlusco said:
Technically yes, although as far as i know there is no way to do so while s-on and locked. In order to downgrade hboot you would need to have the bootloader unlocked. Since verizon does not let us use htcdev to unlock, it would be virtually imposible.
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cmlusco said:
There is no difference between a signed and decrypted ruu other than what their names suggest. Ones signed ones not, both do the exact same thing to the phone.
You can lock the bootloader first. As long as you still have s-off, you have a saftey net. As long as your s-off you can change it to say what ever you want it to say. Locked, relocked, or unlocked.
Yes the ruu will wipe everything.
You will want to back up your sd.
Do the ruu.
Take the ota to kitkat.
Lock the bootloader.
Go s-on.
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My phone is current S-Off and relocked, how can I change it to unlocked?
Thank you.
UPDATE: Nevermind, I got it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470340

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