new to g2 forum - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

new to the g2 community. i have cm7 right now, thinking about flashing virtous unity rom. i do wanna change the hboot but if i do change to the zhboot . can i keep that zhboot and just flashed any other rom ? or do i have to go back to my old hboot which is 0.82.0000. and whats the difference between the two hboot? hope you guys can help me out

flipnotiq said:
new to the g2 community. i have cm7 right now, thinking about flashing virtous unity rom. i do wanna change the hboot but if i do change to the zhboot . can i keep that zhboot and just flashed any other rom ? or do i have to go back to my old hboot which is 0.82.0000. and whats the difference between the two hboot? hope you guys can help me out
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The DZ hboot will work fine with any other roms and will be essential for all future virtuous releases.
Using the DZ hboot increases the size of the system partition meaning that larger roms will fit on to the phone. Sense 3.0 roms are huge and if you use the G2 hboot its very difficult to get the roms to fit on to the phone. There are guides dotted around the forums if you ever needed to return to the stock hboot.

Changing the hboot to the dz one wont hurt. It simply changes how much space is divided between system and data.
You should be all set if u us the dz hboot and it would guarantee that you can use all the roms from the g2/dz forums.
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Was curious, if u use a superwipe while using the dz hboot willit wipe the wrong partitions?
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xsteven77x said:
Was curious, if u use a superwipe while using the dz hboot willit wipe the wrong partitions?
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No, not that I'm aware of any way. I've used it with both hboots. And never had any issues.
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Ty guys. I did hit the thanks button if your wondering.

lol you're welcome. It's a breath of fresh air for someone who actually makes an effort to read and not act self entitled. If you have any other questions that you can't find an answer to, I can try to help you with what I know (not that it's alot, but I can probably handle the mid level questions)

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New Hboot

Ok guys heres a quick q/ .I want to try some Gb ++ roms and obviously i need the ++ hboot since im using the stock one.So after i flash the hboot,what will happen to the phone,i.e. will i still have my recovery?
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To my knowlegde the flash of the hboot only changes the bootloader.
Only ROM you currently use wont boot up no more. Recovery etc will stay untouched.
So flash new hboot, then wipe all, then flash ROM
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And remember that even though they are called data++ you might be needing CM7 hboot actually, make sure what is said in ROM thread.
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Ok,i already had the felling ,but just wanted to be 100% sure about it
tnx for the info chaps

Where to find cm7 hboot image?

I have search multiple forums and sites but I am unable to find the cm7 boot image only cm7r2. Can anyone help me out please.
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http://alpharev.nl/ There ya go mate look half way down page its there
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festa20 said:
http://alpharev.nl/ There ya go mate look half way down page its there
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The original image not the r2 version.
Yes, luckily I kept the image. http://mirror.viperts.info. Desire > hboot > r1
Punched in..
You could also make it yourself with thalamus hboot patcher.
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Thanks heaps guys, I will try the r1 version first then I will attempt at making one of my own. Thanks again.
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MatDrOiD said:
You could also make it yourself with thalamus hboot patcher.
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I always wondered how to create proper hboots. Might give it a go sometime
Meaple said:
I always wondered how to create proper hboots. Might give it a go sometime
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Here you have the guide:
http://thalamus-hacking.blogspot.com/2011/07/custom-hbootsupdate.html
MatDrOiD said:
Here you have the guide:
http://thalamus-hacking.blogspot.com/2011/07/custom-hbootsupdate.html
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Thanks I will have a look at this in a few days.
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Here you have the guide:
http://thalamus-hacking.blogspot.com/2011/07/custom-hbootsupdate.html
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How safe is this tool? I guess that the images on alpharev come from this tool but has anyone really used it?
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How safe is this tool? I guess that the images on alpharev come from this tool but has anyone really used it?
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I have used it! I have downloaded the HBOOT with the stock partition schema (250/40/147), the HBOOT with the Oxygen r2 schema (100/5/332). Then I have tried to modify the HBOOT with the stock partitions in order to obtain the Oxygen ones. I have given a dummy name to the new HBOOT. Then I have tried to compare the newly created HBOOT with the Oxygen r2 HBOOT. Except for the HBOOT name, they were identical.
I have repeated the steps for the CyanogenMod partitions. Except the label, there were 2 bytes different at 0x32928 starting from the beginning of the files.
I have also repeated the steps for the Bravo Sense, Data++ and N1 schemas. The files were also identical (excepting the label, of course).
To conclude, in 4 cases of 5, I have obtained the same files. I don't know what happened with the CyanogenMod partitioning schema!

How to upgrade hboot

Hi all, so I've been trying to update my hboot from 0.75.0000 to .93 but have been FAILING miserably. I'm currently on ICS, and have tried alpharev which didn't work. Trying to flash rom to RUU has also failed but I don't know why. Flashed my radio to match the one with the RUU and that didn't work, which i'm guessing is due to the inability to simply flash from ICS to 2.2 or 2.3?
So my question is, any other tips?
Try to flash the hboot downgrade from alpharev then the right RUU. If that works you can root and s-off your phone with unrevoked/revolutionary. If you want to change hboot to cmr7 or data ++ (example) you MUST be s-off......
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MarcelHofs said:
Try to flash the hboot downgrade from alpharev then the right RUU. If that works you can root and s-off your phone with unrevoked/revolutionary. If you want to change hboot to cmr7 or data ++ (example) you MUST be s-off......
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Thanks for tip, I've actually done alpharev and it also failed. Reason being it needs a rom that doesn't already have a2sd, any suggestion as to which rom is suitable?
Thanks
Edit: I've actually online done the hboot reflash, and not the downgrade. Will give that a go first and see what happens.
I think that all the rooted roms have some sort of a2sd, that's why I think you have to start from the beginning. Start with an original ruu.bring it back to its original state wich came out of the box...my knowledge doesn't reach that far ;-) its the easyest way I think.
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Can you post your complete bootloader. Turn of phone, hold down volume and press power. What info does the left upper corner give you ?
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It is:
BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031D
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
MAR 5 2010,21:12:15
Still I think what's best is to go back all the way and install a ruu. Then go directly to revolutionary. It will root and s-off your phone and installs the custom hboot.
Maybe I have more time to help tonight, I am at work now :-(
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MarcelHofs said:
I think that all the rooted roms have some sort of a2sd, that's why I think you have to start from the beginning. Start with an original ruu.bring it back to its original state wich came out of the box...my knowledge doesn't reach that far ;-) its the easyest way I think.
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That's what I'm thinking too, hence why I'm trying to flash an RUU onto the device. I however get this error when I do it
Error[140]: Bootloader version error
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again
I conclude that the downgrade did not work ?
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I conclude that the downgrade did not work ?
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It didn't and wouldn't cause my phone is still on S-On, I'm however dling some newer RUU so fingers crossed that helps.
Ah yes ofcourse. There is a stickie in the Q & A section here that has info and troubleshooting. Maybe point 3 and 4 can give you some more info !
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Is it possible that your phone is branded by provider, in that case you have to create a goldcard first. I have no experience in this. Hopefully I am pointing you to the right direction.
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Is it possible that your phone is branded by provider, in that case you have to create a goldcard first. I have no experience in this. Hopefully I am pointing you to the right direction.
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Hey there, firstly I would like to thank you for ALL your help and of course the effort you've put in it.
I've actually fixed it by firstly going to page ~16 of the android development forum for the desire, get an old rom, flash it in and then performed the alpharev. Lo and behold it worked because the rom is reasonably old and a2sd was "new" then. Flashed it back to ICS now and I am proud to announced that I S-OFF'ED!!! Partition done and OFF I GO.
That's great !!!! Have fun with your fixed desire )))
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bjornzzz said:
Hey there, firstly I would like to thank you for ALL your help and of course the effort you've put in it.
I've actually fixed it by firstly going to page ~16 of the android development forum for the desire, get an old rom, flash it in and then performed the alpharev. Lo and behold it worked because the rom is reasonably old and a2sd was "new" then. Flashed it back to ICS now and I am proud to announced that I S-OFF'ED!!! Partition done and OFF I GO.
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@bjornzzz Any suggestion on which rom you flashed. I've arrived at this boot loader while going back to stock from alpharevx hboot / ics rom.
Flashing an Ruu before flashing the alpharev downgrade didn't help much. LOL

[Q] Rock solid ROM required to enable sale. Any suggestions

After trying several different ROMs (mainly Sense 1.9 up to 3.5) and 3 different memory cards I am still having reliability problems with my Desire. The main problem is now and again I press the wake button and nothing. The power button doesnt even work I have to take the battery out and reset.
I also get a fair bit of lag, especially with incoming calls, even after having a play with Daemon Controller settings.
I can just about live with it but as I am likely to want to sell the phone soon i was wondering if anyone could recommend the most solid ROM. Preferably one that doesn't use an EXT3/4 partition as it could possibly be running apps from this that's causing the problem. I'm not bothered about Sense either.
I am currently running AceSMod007 v42, Recovery 4EXT v2.2.7 RC6, Stock HBoot.
The easier it is to install the better and even if its vanilla android I'm not bothered. I just don't want any comebacks when I sell it as the phone has caused me enough headaches.
ps Is a new battery likely to help or is that clutching at straws?
Put it back to stock like it used to be. That will eliminate or at least lessen the possibility of buyer comebacks caused by buggy custom roms. If the buyer wants it rooted, he/she should do it themselves.
How do you do that exactly?
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Reflash the Froyo RUU which you can pick up at www.shippedroms.com, or the Gingerbread RUU which you can find at www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads.
Good luck!
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Reflash the Froyo RUU which you can pick up at www.shippedroms.com, or the Gingerbread RUU which you can find at www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads.
Good luck!
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Thanks! Can I flash that straight over any ROM? and does that mean it won't be rooted anymore either?
Steveh8204 said:
Thanks! Can I flash that straight over any ROM? and does that mean it won't be rooted anymore either?
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I haven't done it personally but I believe you can flash it over as long as the phone is on stock hboot which I think it is. If you are s-off, you may need to flash a downgrader from alpharev. (Can anyone confirm this is required for stock hboot? I had the impression it's only for cm7r2 and oxygen hboots.)
You'll lose root and s-off (if you s-offed your device before). Make sure you chose the right RUU for your phone.
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Can anyone confirm this is required for stock hboot? I had the impression it's only for cm7r2 and oxygen hboots.
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Only r2 hboots.
I think I might have to give it a try as my phone is very unreliable now as it keeps just switching off and won't reset unless I pull the battery. Happens about once a day.
Do I flash it through recovery as usual?
Also, if you want a solid rom, you can't get much more solid than Cyanogenmod. It's actually more stable than the stock rom for my part. Another option is MIUI, but the iPhone-like interface might be a bother.
Thanks, do you mean CyanogenMod-7 for Desire GSM V7.0.3 rom as the download link was broken when I checked?
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Thanks, do you mean CyanogenMod-7 for Desire GSM V7.0.3 rom as the download link was broken when I checked?
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You're selling the phone. Stick to your original plan.
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Possibly not for another 6-8 weeks so I don't fancy returning to Stock and still having problems and having to mess about getting it S-Off and rooted again.
And to be fair if it wasn't randomly switching itself off I might consider hanging on to it longer as when it works properly its a pretty decent phone, I just cant live with the unreliablility.
So has anyone got a link for the CM Rom?
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I don't fancy returning to Stock and still having problems and having to mess about getting it S-Off and rooted again.
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If this is the way it turns out, I think you should start considering RMA.
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Look in desire android development it should be there
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Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&sourc...jLn2Aw&usg=AFQjCNH-nCOyaY1Gor2f_Iah8MF8Wxwjbg
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http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&sourc...jLn2Aw&usg=AFQjCNH-nCOyaY1Gor2f_Iah8MF8Wxwjbg
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Thats CM official page
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Steveh8204 said:
Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
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Consult Bortak's guide on that, I'm not writing it over again here.
RMA is a warranty claim.
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Steveh8204 said:
Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
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Go to desire android development then go into stickies everything u need to know will be there and thank OP if they helped
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stuck in an "in between" situation

Hello,
my first phone is the HTC Desire Z... and i've never worked on any cellphone other than this one.
today, i was given an HTC Desire, that was giving su permissions, and it is S-ON (kinda weird)
now i don't know what is the process of perm rooting it and S-OFF it, but what i did to get to this situation was a backup restore of a sense 2 with android 2.2 froyo...
what i want to do is S-OFF it and have it run CM7... flashing roms is my thing, but what should i do to make it S-OFF?
thanks
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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thank you!!!
but in addition i would like it to be S-OFF, how can i do that?
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html
Have a look at the stickies in the Desire Android Development forum here at XDA, everything you need is there. Like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
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well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine
S-on just stops us from messing with the system partition whilst Android is running.
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Did you try Alpharev (flash a rooted stock Sense ROM first)?
alpharev.nl/
The main benefit of going S-Off is that you can flash a new Hboot with more space for apps on (fast) nand memory. Standard Desire has less than 150 mb available on nand for apps, if you flash CM7 r2 for example you will have almost 290mb for apps. Of course, you have to pick your ROMs carefully so they fit on the phone once you flash a custom Hboot.
If you stick with stock S-On you will need a high quality fast micro sd card (for moving apps on to).
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i'm using the CD methode (my bandwidth doesn't support the VM methodes)
how much time should i wait for this to finish? (pic below)
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way
It's been a long time since I s-offed my Desire. The CD procedure is the same as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cw9xkS20i0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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@rete, that's exactly what i'm trying to do, and it just hangs at the 3rd step, in the video step3 took a minute, i waited about half an hour
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Riro Zizo said:
well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine
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Flash 2.3 gb ruu from HTCdev, then run revolutionary, cuz it works perfectly after that.......the ruu will upgrade your hboot required by revolutionary......
Regards
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