stuck in an "in between" situation - Desire General

Hello,
my first phone is the HTC Desire Z... and i've never worked on any cellphone other than this one.
today, i was given an HTC Desire, that was giving su permissions, and it is S-ON (kinda weird)
now i don't know what is the process of perm rooting it and S-OFF it, but what i did to get to this situation was a backup restore of a sense 2 with android 2.2 froyo...
what i want to do is S-OFF it and have it run CM7... flashing roms is my thing, but what should i do to make it S-OFF?
thanks
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way

S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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rete said:
S-Off and rooted are two different things. You can flash CM7 while rooted and S-On.
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thank you!!!
but in addition i would like it to be S-OFF, how can i do that?
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http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html

Have a look at the stickies in the Desire Android Development forum here at XDA, everything you need is there. Like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
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well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine

S-on just stops us from messing with the system partition whilst Android is running.
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Did you try Alpharev (flash a rooted stock Sense ROM first)?
alpharev.nl/
The main benefit of going S-Off is that you can flash a new Hboot with more space for apps on (fast) nand memory. Standard Desire has less than 150 mb available on nand for apps, if you flash CM7 r2 for example you will have almost 290mb for apps. Of course, you have to pick your ROMs carefully so they fit on the phone once you flash a custom Hboot.
If you stick with stock S-On you will need a high quality fast micro sd card (for moving apps on to).
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i'm using the CD methode (my bandwidth doesn't support the VM methodes)
how much time should i wait for this to finish? (pic below)
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i didn't mean to mock you or to offend you in any kind of way

It's been a long time since I s-offed my Desire. The CD procedure is the same as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cw9xkS20i0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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@rete, that's exactly what i'm trying to do, and it just hangs at the 3rd step, in the video step3 took a minute, i waited about half an hour
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Riro Zizo said:
well, revolutionary failed
so now i'm just gonna flash CM7... is MildWild V4.3 good?
and what's the point of S-OFF if you can still flash stuff? the phone has cwm recovery, and can flash fine... so i'm fine
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Flash 2.3 gb ruu from HTCdev, then run revolutionary, cuz it works perfectly after that.......the ruu will upgrade your hboot required by revolutionary......
Regards
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Looking to root friends desire - unrevoked...

Hi, i've been looking around to help my friend with his new desire,
I would like to see if this works, according to my research...
If I ran the phone through unrevoked, would this root the phone?
And in turn, let us install rom manager + clockwork mod?
I don't have much experience around here as I am still looking about rooting my nexus
Hope you can help
Details needed.
Bootloader info, phone info...
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I'm gonna have to ask about the bootloader info, but it is currently running stock (latest) which I think is 2.2?
EDIT: How do you get into the bootloader? Is it power+ volume down?
Yes.
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If its running 2.2, chances are very high that you can root it with unrevoked. Make sure the hBOOT version is 0.93.xxxx
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If its the same as mine, yes unrevoked will do. However, i was having issues with CwM before so now im using amon ra recovery.just a heads up
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Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
Warmo161 said:
Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
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use google and find out.... or just follow one of the many noob guides
A noob guide would of answered all of your questions
Warmo161 said:
Ye, thats right, I just found out that it is 0.93
So my plan on my original post will work?
EDIT: Do we need S-off? And how does this affect the phone?
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It will work. As long as the drivers required are properly installed. And you don't need s-off unless you are planning to change the boot partitions (eg. Change from Stock hBOOT to CM7r2 hBOOT to get more space for apps)
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If your still not 100% sure I don't think you should even try rooting your friends phone. You'll need the htc usb drivers installed on pc, make sure the htc sync apps is not installed.
Use unrevoked to root and install cwm recovery, from there you can install any of the great roms.
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Please read the rooting faq in my signature. There's also a guide there which incorporates pre requisite information which (for some unknown reason) is missing from most other guides.
But read the faq too. It's not about blindly following steps. It's about understanding the process and what you are doing.
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[Q] Update straight to 2.3

Ok, I'm new to htc's and don't hate on me for asking this but I've searched here and on Google and am not getting good enough results, I currently have a 2.2 stock ROM with root and clockwork to boot ( just got the phone and it was this way when I got it) I now have to send the phone in for repairs and I was thinking if it would be ok to just update to the 2.3 htc stock update?
Do the RUU's include everything boot,radio and ROM?
I come from the world of Samsung where we have small updates (that don't have boot) and large ones (wich include all 3 packages)
Also if this was posted in the wrong section, mod could you please move it to the appropriate place thank you
Cheers.
A RUU is indeed a complete package. It will return it completely to stock.
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Thanks for the swift reply
Just make sure you have stock hboot, the RUU won't fit into CM7 hboot
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timmaaa said:
Just make sure you have stock hboot, the RUU won't fit into CM7 hboot
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yes it will, the alpharev overwrite protection doesn't work on the 2.3 update and will update the bootloader also.
Oh thats good to know...
bortak said:
yes it will, the alpharev overwrite protection doesn't work on the 2.3 update and will update the bootloader also.
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im not sure about this, as some users reported to remain still s-off after the 2.3 ruu (and this should be logic as the alpharev bootloader version is 6.93 (>1.02))
I did the update and everything went great, I also saw that the loader is now S-ON
whatever that means
albertbm said:
I did the update and everything went great, I also saw that the loader is now S-ON
whatever that means
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S-ON means the bootloader is now locked.

[Q] Anyone ever had problems with Revolutionary?

Hey-
I want to S-OFF my phone but I am a little cautious towards doing it, and want to see if anyone has ever had any problems?(Brick/bad flashes etc)
-Jack
I had no problems with my wildfire (when I had it) or my friends wildfire
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No issues what so ever mate.
When I found this method it was a god send, worked first time on my first attempt at rooting.
I have since flashed RUU's and revolutionary sticks around so no need to re-do this method.
Message me if u want a full guide
No..everything works fine for me.
I didn't have any problems, just read the instructions though
(got my instructions from www.theunlockr.com)
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nope ! never had problems. let the revolutionary do its thing and your next step is flashing the rom you want..
No problems whatsoever, just get the right drivers, and do what it tells you to do.
arkoze said:
No issues what so ever mate.
When I found this method it was a god send, worked first time on my first attempt at rooting.
I have since flashed RUU's and revolutionary sticks around so no need to re-do this method.
Message me if u want a full guide
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Does an RUU remove revolutionarys custom hboot version or not?
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radders1997 said:
Does an RUU remove revolutionarys custom hboot version or not?
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Nope. Ran them multiple times.
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radders1997 said:
Does an RUU remove revolutionarys custom hboot version or not?
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No but i remember having to run through unrevoked again after flashing an RUU. Possibly to add root/SU app again as i think the RUU i used removed the super user ninja app. But Revolutionary stayed on the HBOOT screen. And unrevoked took like 2 mins to complete
make sure ur RUU is version 2.1 or lower in order to use unrevoked tho
No, at the end it will ask you if you want to root your phone as well, not a big deal
I had... because I installed a 2.2.1 froyo rom, and due to that, i was unable to reinstall newers rom versions. It kept the S-OFF, but kind off "broken". The problem was solved, using this tutorial! hope it will help U.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
I just Rooted it yesterday and had no problems with S-off or root.
Used the guide in the wildfire android devolopment (i did it with froyo and hboot .002)

How to upgrade hboot

Hi all, so I've been trying to update my hboot from 0.75.0000 to .93 but have been FAILING miserably. I'm currently on ICS, and have tried alpharev which didn't work. Trying to flash rom to RUU has also failed but I don't know why. Flashed my radio to match the one with the RUU and that didn't work, which i'm guessing is due to the inability to simply flash from ICS to 2.2 or 2.3?
So my question is, any other tips?
Try to flash the hboot downgrade from alpharev then the right RUU. If that works you can root and s-off your phone with unrevoked/revolutionary. If you want to change hboot to cmr7 or data ++ (example) you MUST be s-off......
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MarcelHofs said:
Try to flash the hboot downgrade from alpharev then the right RUU. If that works you can root and s-off your phone with unrevoked/revolutionary. If you want to change hboot to cmr7 or data ++ (example) you MUST be s-off......
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Thanks for tip, I've actually done alpharev and it also failed. Reason being it needs a rom that doesn't already have a2sd, any suggestion as to which rom is suitable?
Thanks
Edit: I've actually online done the hboot reflash, and not the downgrade. Will give that a go first and see what happens.
I think that all the rooted roms have some sort of a2sd, that's why I think you have to start from the beginning. Start with an original ruu.bring it back to its original state wich came out of the box...my knowledge doesn't reach that far ;-) its the easyest way I think.
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Can you post your complete bootloader. Turn of phone, hold down volume and press power. What info does the left upper corner give you ?
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It is:
BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031D
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
MAR 5 2010,21:12:15
Still I think what's best is to go back all the way and install a ruu. Then go directly to revolutionary. It will root and s-off your phone and installs the custom hboot.
Maybe I have more time to help tonight, I am at work now :-(
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MarcelHofs said:
I think that all the rooted roms have some sort of a2sd, that's why I think you have to start from the beginning. Start with an original ruu.bring it back to its original state wich came out of the box...my knowledge doesn't reach that far ;-) its the easyest way I think.
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That's what I'm thinking too, hence why I'm trying to flash an RUU onto the device. I however get this error when I do it
Error[140]: Bootloader version error
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again
I conclude that the downgrade did not work ?
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MarcelHofs said:
I conclude that the downgrade did not work ?
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It didn't and wouldn't cause my phone is still on S-On, I'm however dling some newer RUU so fingers crossed that helps.
Ah yes ofcourse. There is a stickie in the Q & A section here that has info and troubleshooting. Maybe point 3 and 4 can give you some more info !
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Is it possible that your phone is branded by provider, in that case you have to create a goldcard first. I have no experience in this. Hopefully I am pointing you to the right direction.
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MarcelHofs said:
Is it possible that your phone is branded by provider, in that case you have to create a goldcard first. I have no experience in this. Hopefully I am pointing you to the right direction.
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Hey there, firstly I would like to thank you for ALL your help and of course the effort you've put in it.
I've actually fixed it by firstly going to page ~16 of the android development forum for the desire, get an old rom, flash it in and then performed the alpharev. Lo and behold it worked because the rom is reasonably old and a2sd was "new" then. Flashed it back to ICS now and I am proud to announced that I S-OFF'ED!!! Partition done and OFF I GO.
That's great !!!! Have fun with your fixed desire )))
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bjornzzz said:
Hey there, firstly I would like to thank you for ALL your help and of course the effort you've put in it.
I've actually fixed it by firstly going to page ~16 of the android development forum for the desire, get an old rom, flash it in and then performed the alpharev. Lo and behold it worked because the rom is reasonably old and a2sd was "new" then. Flashed it back to ICS now and I am proud to announced that I S-OFF'ED!!! Partition done and OFF I GO.
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@bjornzzz Any suggestion on which rom you flashed. I've arrived at this boot loader while going back to stock from alpharevx hboot / ics rom.
Flashing an Ruu before flashing the alpharev downgrade didn't help much. LOL

[Q] Rock solid ROM required to enable sale. Any suggestions

After trying several different ROMs (mainly Sense 1.9 up to 3.5) and 3 different memory cards I am still having reliability problems with my Desire. The main problem is now and again I press the wake button and nothing. The power button doesnt even work I have to take the battery out and reset.
I also get a fair bit of lag, especially with incoming calls, even after having a play with Daemon Controller settings.
I can just about live with it but as I am likely to want to sell the phone soon i was wondering if anyone could recommend the most solid ROM. Preferably one that doesn't use an EXT3/4 partition as it could possibly be running apps from this that's causing the problem. I'm not bothered about Sense either.
I am currently running AceSMod007 v42, Recovery 4EXT v2.2.7 RC6, Stock HBoot.
The easier it is to install the better and even if its vanilla android I'm not bothered. I just don't want any comebacks when I sell it as the phone has caused me enough headaches.
ps Is a new battery likely to help or is that clutching at straws?
Put it back to stock like it used to be. That will eliminate or at least lessen the possibility of buyer comebacks caused by buggy custom roms. If the buyer wants it rooted, he/she should do it themselves.
How do you do that exactly?
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Reflash the Froyo RUU which you can pick up at www.shippedroms.com, or the Gingerbread RUU which you can find at www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads.
Good luck!
plinders said:
Reflash the Froyo RUU which you can pick up at www.shippedroms.com, or the Gingerbread RUU which you can find at www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads.
Good luck!
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Thanks! Can I flash that straight over any ROM? and does that mean it won't be rooted anymore either?
Steveh8204 said:
Thanks! Can I flash that straight over any ROM? and does that mean it won't be rooted anymore either?
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I haven't done it personally but I believe you can flash it over as long as the phone is on stock hboot which I think it is. If you are s-off, you may need to flash a downgrader from alpharev. (Can anyone confirm this is required for stock hboot? I had the impression it's only for cm7r2 and oxygen hboots.)
You'll lose root and s-off (if you s-offed your device before). Make sure you chose the right RUU for your phone.
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Can anyone confirm this is required for stock hboot? I had the impression it's only for cm7r2 and oxygen hboots.
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Only r2 hboots.
I think I might have to give it a try as my phone is very unreliable now as it keeps just switching off and won't reset unless I pull the battery. Happens about once a day.
Do I flash it through recovery as usual?
Also, if you want a solid rom, you can't get much more solid than Cyanogenmod. It's actually more stable than the stock rom for my part. Another option is MIUI, but the iPhone-like interface might be a bother.
Thanks, do you mean CyanogenMod-7 for Desire GSM V7.0.3 rom as the download link was broken when I checked?
Steveh8204 said:
Thanks, do you mean CyanogenMod-7 for Desire GSM V7.0.3 rom as the download link was broken when I checked?
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You're selling the phone. Stick to your original plan.
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Possibly not for another 6-8 weeks so I don't fancy returning to Stock and still having problems and having to mess about getting it S-Off and rooted again.
And to be fair if it wasn't randomly switching itself off I might consider hanging on to it longer as when it works properly its a pretty decent phone, I just cant live with the unreliablility.
So has anyone got a link for the CM Rom?
Steveh8204 said:
I don't fancy returning to Stock and still having problems and having to mess about getting it S-Off and rooted again.
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If this is the way it turns out, I think you should start considering RMA.
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Look in desire android development it should be there
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Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&sourc...jLn2Aw&usg=AFQjCNH-nCOyaY1Gor2f_Iah8MF8Wxwjbg
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http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&sourc...jLn2Aw&usg=AFQjCNH-nCOyaY1Gor2f_Iah8MF8Wxwjbg
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Thats CM official page
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Steveh8204 said:
Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
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Consult Bortak's guide on that, I'm not writing it over again here.
RMA is a warranty claim.
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Steveh8204 said:
Ok thanks, just a couple of things though, what is RMA and how do I flash the stock? can I do it through 4Ext recovery and do I need to wipe anything first?
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Go to desire android development then go into stickies everything u need to know will be there and thank OP if they helped
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