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So I was trying to see the current posts on the forum from my phone last night, but for some reason opera mini wouldn't let me, so I did a search of the forum to try different links when I saw this site, that gives people free user names and passwords to our forum, it says is for people that don't want the hassle of registering with us , can use these and come and go here. I don't know if I'm overeacting about this but I personally wouldn't want someone getting their hands on my username and password, and abusing it and getting me banned from here.
Now I'm hoping that this are usernames and passwords of people that no longer want to come here and are giving them to this site, and that is not that somehow the're stealing our usernames and passwords.
Here's link.http://www.bugmenot.com/view/forum.xda-developers.com
that's incredibly f'd up. the jeep forum that i'm on is there too.
I've heard of it and used it once before for another site. It's shady but it is a spammers paradise. I think the only reason I used it was for the inability to get an email reply because registering was temporarily down.
lmao, at the op.
BugMeNot is a great website.
I use it all the time for forum's where I know I prolly only visit once in my lifetime.
yes, i cant believe you've never heard of bugmenot before. Its user submitted U ... the people that submit usernames are doing alot of people a huge favor.
I've never heard of hackers spreading stolen U on bugmenot
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yes, i cant believe you've never heard of bugmenot before. Its user submitted U ... the people that submit usernames are doing alot of people a huge favor.
I've never heard of hackers spreading stolen U on bugmenot
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You see I have no problem registering to a forum and becoming a member if I'm looking for info or apps/games or to chat. and you say that users that submit are doing people a huge favor, in what way, so people can go into these forums and sites without effort or contribution and just mooch from everybody.
Oh well I guess it's just my opinion.
I guess your just really young and naive.
so, let me slowly explain the benefits of this site.
Say I was searching for a song on google.
I then found the song on a forum, but to download it I have to be a member.
Now, instead of wasting 10 minutes of time registering for a site that I will never again you, I can just go to BugMeNot or use the BMN firefox extention.
Get it?
It does not effect the forum, cause I will never go there after the inital time.
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I guess your just really young and naive.
so, let me slowly explain the benefits of this site.
Say I was searching for a song on google.
I then found the song on a forum, but to download it I have to be a member.
Now, instead of wasting 10 minutes of time registering for a site that I will never again you, I can just go to BugMeNot or use the BMN firefox extention.
Get it?
It does not effect the forum, cause I will never go there after the inital time.
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First of all I'm not young and naive, I'm 33yrs old, married with 2 kids, own my house and three cars, How about you?
and second like I said before if a forum or website has something of interest to me , even if is one thing I'll become a member, I've done it before, I have gone to sites and forums and thought maybe I won't come back but I end up browsing thru, just to check things.
Look, I guess the're are some people that might find this beneficial, and that's cool, and my main concern was on how they aquired such u/p , but if they are being shared by the people that made the acc. then I guess we have not much to worry about.
One of the things that I like about forums like xda or NECO is that there are actually people at the other end of the user names. If I post something, the responses to that post are coming from people that I may or may not trust.
Point being, if multiple people are using the same login and only doing so once to post a questoin or comment on something then you end up with user names that post a lot of crap or you can have folks trolling and trying to sell their "insert junk here".
Take the time to register. Even if you never go back to the website who cares. If your time is too valuable to spend 3 - 5 minutes registering a username and password then you're not very likely to be trolling forums.
I used bugmenot on xda a copule of times, then I registered!
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BugMeNot has helped me MULTIPLE times, and it benefits both the forums and the users (to a degree). Say I wanted to use a forum just for one thing, I simply go to bugmenot.com to find a username/password. I won't get unnecessary spam, and prevents unnecessary accounts being made on the forum.
And I don't even know why I typed all that^... lol -_-"
We (mods) know that the site exist for quite some time.
It is a known problem.
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We (mods) know that the site exist for quite some time.
It is a known problem.
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+1 See, mods think it's a problem.
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+1 See, mods think it's a problem.
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Glad i did notice they where banning the user ID's on the site
"had to try some out as was inquisitive"
stylez said:
Glad i did notice they where banning the user ID's on the site
"had to try some out as was inquisitive"
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If anyone finds an acive username, feel free to report it to a moderator.
Thanks in advance,
EquinoXe
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If anyone finds an acive username, feel free to report it to a moderator.
Thanks in advance,
EquinoXe
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We'll do .
u can block the site
http://www.bugmenot.com/faq.php#04.1
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If anyone finds an acive username, feel free to report it to a moderator.
Thanks in advance,
EquinoXe
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Will do. I used to administer a forum on a different topic but this type of stuff was a problem for us too.
The Marketplace section of XDA has been only open for a short time. There are currently 8 potential users in our community who have been ripped off and may not be capable of receiving their payments back and/or punishing the people that scammed them. There also exist a number of buyers that await their devices to be received but the sellers have not contacted them.
There are several benefits of selling on XDA and there are many drawbacks. Please let me remind you that this is a developers (or those interested in the processes, aka users like me) forum. Please take the time to reflect the benefits and the drawbacks and vote.
I know the poll results will lean towards keeping the Marketplace open because those who visit this section on a regular would want to keep using it as a resource. Yet there are many on this site that still do not have any idea that this marketplace exist, simply because they bookmark their device's section.
Please vote after reading the Fraud Thread,Thank You.
If you have new guidelines that will help deter criminals from scamming our members please post. Please note, your suggestions may be criticized.
My vote to third option. I dont believe in throwing the baby with the bath water. Everything faces problem in the beginning, so is this marketplace. Let's make it a better place.
Just because the Marketplace isn't open doesn't mean XDA won't be used for transactions between users. With the Marketplace, the transactions are more public and I bet that being open and public actually cuts down on scams.
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Just because the Marketplace isn't open doesn't mean XDA won't be used for transactions between users. With the Marketplace, the transactions are more public and I bet that being open and public actually cuts down on scams.
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I completely agree with your opinion. What do you think about banning device sale transactions altogether?
Just like XDA bans warez but obviously users can PM each other regarding warez.
I would think that there is a way to keep the market section open, yet make it safer. I don't think it is XDA's responsibility to make sure every transaction is 100% safe, not even eBay can do that. I don't even think it is responsible to go above and beyond "buyer/seller beware". But I know this communitty and to simply leave it at "stock" isn't an option.
It has proven true that it is hard to identify a good scammer. Post counts, length of membership, and so forth have all proven indicators of trustworthiness, but not a guarantee. And while a guarantee surely isn't possible in reality, I know it is always the goal of those in this communitty to get it right and as close to perfect as possible.
I am currently trying to sell a couple phones, and half my worry is that people have enough trust and faith in me to feel comfortable buying from me. The other half is that I find a legit buyer. I can't even image being the actual buyer!
I feel that stricter guidelines and oversight will go a long way, although likely more time consuming as well. Perhaps making it so new listings have to get approved? And setting criteria for approval asking for photographic proof that the item exists? As well, maybe create an XDA paypal account, where the buyer pays XDA, and upon shipping confirmation/ receipt confirmation the funds are then transfered to the seller? This would put a lot of liability on XDA, which might not be plausable.
Ultimately, buyer and seller beware is and always will be the most important rule.
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Although opening the market place means that many problems exist,which is seller make slow response to buying,I may strengthen to monitor.Opening the market place may improve the dynamic of the forum.
If you want to savvy more information about mobile phone, please come to [scamlink]
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And you give a link to a Kirf phone site... shakes head... maybe we can also look into strengthening membership requirements/ process?
XDA can't take guarantee for anything that happens in marketplace, that is something ebay doesn't take inspite of such a heavy fee amount they charge. I feel xda is the best way to share things like pocket pc phones in like minded people to get the get value for both buyer & seller. It would be there no matter you have the marketplace or not. Marketplace has provided outlet to all such dealings.
We can ponder over how to make it more secure, but giving marketplace an existential threat is not I am in agreement with.
Marketplace open!!
As I said before,
All transactions between particulars on the WWW have some risk.
If you are not willing to take that risk please do not use marketplace and go and buy to a regular store!
You should be aware that if you want to buy cheap there is always a risk!
Let´s continue with marketplace!!
I noticed that some other sites require you to have a certain post count before posting/viewing the market place. This could cut the scammers out as it would require them to first be active in the community before being able to post.
Keep the market place.. I have used it for purchasing more than 1 phone, and lucky for me, my experiance here has been fantastic... I think people should pay for their transactions using a credit card... even with PayPal.. You can pay with credit card there.. That way if you are scammed and do no receive what you payed for, open up a dispute with both your credit card company as well as paypal.. evne if paypal can not "collect" anything, you credit card can cancel the transaction all together and take the money from paypal... (which will, in turn, make them want to look for the money a little harder, and even possibley bring up legal action againt the fraud monger!) In closing, KEEP THE MARKET PLACE...
I totally agree with 'Teej53214' and have voted for option 1.
I don't see why XDA should shoulder any responsibilty, nor have to police the marketplace,
since with all online dealing it is the buyers responsibility, not XDA's, to take adequate steps to protect himself.
as such, using a credit card is far the best way.
Yes, but at what point? A spammer will get a couple hundred posts in a few minutes, where as a legit member might not in a couple years.
As well, one of the most infamous scams thus far was carried out by a member with over 1000 posts, and 2 years of community involvement.
I noticed that some other sites require you to have a certain post count before posting/viewing the market place. This could cut the scammers out as it would require them to first be active in the community before being able to post.
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there already is a post count limit, i.e 30+ Posts, a seller less than post isent allowed to sell, and his thread is deleted
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there already is a post count limit, i.e 30+ Posts, a seller less than post isent allowed to sell, and his thread is deleted
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Can we not delete it? Someone may suggest a new guideline, which could be useful for both seller/buyer
I may be new here, but i feel i'll be around for a while. I feel the Market Place is a great idea for everyone, but some guildlines should be improved for everyoens experience.
I feel that the suggestions (option 3?) would to invoke a Post Count Requirement, but to add to this a review (to enter into the market place) must be made by an admin to make sure all posts to that post count are not spam to scam.
I also feel that the market place should incorporate some kind of market system. I know there's plugins for vBulletin that would allow such a thing, or better yet, force all users to mediate through another site for sales (eBay?). This way we'll know they're scammers...
ie if someone posts a acution on eBay for the sole purpose to sell an item (Buy it now at discolsed price in forum) and they're new user on eBay then more caution flags are thrown up... (Could use many other auction sites, etc).
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Maybe enforce some kind of physical conversation about products as well, phone call, etc?
Just my $.02
Keep it open.
I agree with what has been said. Use Paypal with a Credit card. Ivé have to open a dispute (not here) via Paypal and in the end I just contacted my credit card holder that refunded the payment.
Force users to have X many posts, visits or time from registering+posts before they can post in the marketplace.
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Keep it open.
I agree with what has been said. Use Paypal with a Credit card. Ivé have to open a dispute (not here) via Paypal and in the end I just contacted my credit card holder that refunded the payment.
Force users to have X many posts, visits or time from registering+posts before they can post in the marketplace.
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As Ather stated, there is a 30 post count limit. I do not see it documented anywhere maybe I skipped over it. Anyhow, I am positive there is a vbulletin plugin or add-on that restricts users under a set limit of posts to be capable of accessing the marketplace section.
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As Ather stated, there is a 30 post count limit. I do not see it documented anywhere maybe I skipped over it. Anyhow, I am positive there is a vbulletin plugin or add-on that restricts users under a set limit of posts to be capable of accessing the marketplace section.
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Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
Feel free to add to the list,
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Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
Feel free to add to the list,
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I would like to repeat my suggestions: I was once really involved at notebookreview and this is how we ran things
1. Require a set form for selling and buying. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=243274
2. Require a picture with proof of ownership. (a photo of the item with a piece of paper containing the username and a dated newspaper)
3. Require feedback sources: Amazon, ebay, heatware.
4. Reference previous sales. (some sort of internal feedback system)
I think this can help make the Marketplace a bit safer to everyone involved.
12aon said:
Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
Feel free to add to the list,
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Both of those could be restrictive to real sellers, and not actually scare off scammers.
The spam guys will get a couple hundred posts really quickly. If you toss in a 1 year time limit type thing, then people that are active, like me, wouldn't even be able to sell because I haven't been a member for over a year.
I think we should ask sellers to post at least 5 pics, with their username and a newspaper pictured in one. As well, they need to send their contact info to the section mod. They also need to put a random word picked by the mod and PM to them on the piece of paper with their username on it. Only then would the post actually be made public.
As well, you can ask that they also have shown themself a member of this community, either through length of time here, post count, etc., but subject to the mods descretion.
"Dear Name Withheld,
I want to thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center, my name is Sergio and I will be more than glad to help you today.
Regarding this situation I can tell you that this is the direction that we want to take for our company, however there are some arrangements with our partners to take into account and that is why that I would advise you to please stay tuned in our official website (http://www.htc.com/us/) and our developer`s website (http://www.htcdev.com/) for further information about this situation.
If you need any further assistance, do not hesitate on contacting us again and we will be more than glad to help you.
Remember that if you have any other questions or concerns you can always contact us at http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM ET, 7 days a week.
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I want to thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center, my name is Sergio and I will be more than glad to help you today.
Regarding this situation I can tell you that this is the direction that we want to take for our company, however there are some arrangements with our partners to take into account and that is why that I would advise you to please stay tuned in our official website (http://www.htc.com/us/) and our developer`s website (http://www.htcdev.com/) for further information about this situation.
If you need any further assistance, do not hesitate on contacting us again and we will be more than glad to help you.
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Hello Adam lol. Forgot to remove your name at the end lol. That sucks though... Guess that is the final confirmation that htc didn't do this.
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Hello Adam lol. Forgot to remove your name at the end lol. That sucks though... Guess that is the final confirmation that htc didn't do this.
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using xda app-developers app
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I did, well I guess my username gives away the rest. Oh well I don't really mind much. True that does show it is Verizon, but also give some hope that things may change in time? I've got my fingers crossed.
On a side note, I was drinking with a buddy who works on Android and he was saying that Kit Kat should alleviate some problems involving carriers. mostly with updates and having more congruency between release between carriers but also with things involving unlocking. No intricate details but that is what I've got. He seems really excited about it.
this is what they wrote to me
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices.
Since the carriers personalize the phone at the last part of the process, they decide what will be included, and what features will be enabled and which wont. We apologize for this inconvenience, and if you want to, you may get in touch with Verizon Wireless through the following link:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/contact_us/
Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM ET, 7 days a week.
Have a great evening Jesse.
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!
Everyone that emailed HTCDev to ***** about our situation is receiving one of those two canned responses. VZW has been doing this for years. They aren't going to stop anytime soon. The general rule of thumb with Verizon is that you're pretty much guaranteed not to have unlocked bootloaders/root for awhile after the device launches. There's been several mentions of an exploit being discovered by some Devs but that they are waiting for 4.3 to release so VZW can't patch. Have faith in the community. When will 4.3 release for our One? No idea. Knowing how punctual VZW is with updates we'll get it in September 2019.
Hi guys,
337.com, with 50 million players globally, wants to cooperate with XDA. We would like XDA help us promote our games, especially Clash of Kings. And we don't have budget limitation and we are seeking for a long term cooperation. I‘ve been searching for their business inquiry email, but I haven't found it.
Do you guys know how to get in touch with XDA for business cooperation inquiries?
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Hi guys,
337.com, with 50 million players globally, wants to cooperate with XDA. We would like XDA help us promote our games, especially Clash of Kings. And we don't have budget limitation and we are seeking for a long term cooperation. I‘ve been searching for their business inquiry email, but I haven't found it.
Do you guys know how to get in touch with XDA for business cooperation inquiries?
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Using the Contact link found at the bottom of every page.
It'll take you here -> http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
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Using the Contact link found at the bottom of every page.
It'll take you here -> http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
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Thanks! However, one month ago I sent a message via the form "I want to partner with XDA" and never get a reply from them. I don't know whether that is the right form for business inquiries
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Thanks! However, one month ago I sent a message via the form "I want to partner with XDA" and never get a reply from them. I don't know whether that is the right form for business inquiries
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I'll ping you.
When I subscribed for 9.99 the forum changed and loads horribly slow.
I have looked at my ISP speeds and other sites, toggled my add blocker, and its only on XDA.
Please refund my 9.99 and reset me back to the normal plane Jane site.
Thank You
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When I subscribed for 9.99 the forum changed and loads horribly slow.
I have looked at my ISP speeds and other sites, toggled my add blocker, and its only on XDA.
Please refund my 9.99 and reset me back to the normal plane Jane site.
Thank You
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If you had asked in
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
[All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins
You would likely get a faster response from someone who can help you.
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georgiapi said:
When I subscribed for 9.99 the forum changed and loads horribly slow. I have looked at my ISP speeds and other sites, toggled my add blocker, and its only on XDA. Please refund my 9.99 and reset me back to the normal plane Jane site. Thank You
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The following thread is one of a few threads that are a very good place for an Administrator (who handles the monetary end of the xda-developers) to address issues to include this one.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
You also have an option to PM one or more Administrators that can help you. Some of them are @MikeChannon, @the_scotsman and @svetius (to name just a few).
I'm not in a position to state that you have to use those avenues but, I can only suggest/recommend, what i feel, are a few of the better ones to take.
I wish you the best of luck!
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I DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT VIA PM UNLESS ASKED/REQUESTED BY MYSELF.
PLEASE KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
georgiapi said:
When I subscribed for 9.99 the forum changed and loads horribly slow.
I have looked at my ISP speeds and other sites, toggled my add blocker, and its only on XDA.
Please refund my 9.99 and reset me back to the normal plane Jane site.
Thank You
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We will refund you, however, I'm surprised the site is more slow with ad-free. In all of our test, the speed is much faster.
Plesae send your PayPal transaction number to ad-free(at)xda-developers.com and we will take care of the refund, if that's what you want.
Thanks, I don't know hat happened but I cannot even get thew start page I had.
Swap me back and I'll see if it reverses.