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[Q] CM 7.1.0: Radio and RIL

Hi xda`s,
Im a bit confused. Which RIL is included in CM 7.1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297545) and whats the corresponding Radio? Im using the latest LordmodUE CFS Kernel btw.
Ive read so many different opinions on radios to flash. So id like to have everything matching. Im coming from ARHD 6.1.3. The latest radio should be flashed on my phone.
Thx in advance.

no one knows? reminds me of the queens of the stone age

iGelb23 said:
no one knows? reminds me of the queens of the stone age
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I think it's 2.2.1003G, but I'm not running pure cm7 at the minute so can't guarantee (it is the default in the ROM I'm using, and it works fine with the latest radio).
Edit: I've just noticed in another post I'd replied to from someone who was using a RC of cm7.1 that he had 2.2.0018G after flashing, so it's going to be one of those two (depending on whether it was updated for the final release).
Edit2: If you're already running cm7 just check yourself what you've got:
jkoljo said:
To find your current RIL version, use Terminal emulator (from market) and type:
Code:
su
getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"
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Ah great, thx.
Just found out that its 2.2.0018g. My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M.
Cant find a suggestion if that fits. Is someone into it?
Edit: I just found that I have to flash radio 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M. Can this be done with cwm too? I read that theres a way. But is it safe or is there an easier way? I use an Mac btw and DONT have eng s-off.

Why do you "have to" flash that radio?
If you've got Radio S-OFF, you can download the radio you need from this thread, copy the file to the root of your SD Card (making sure it's named PD98IMG.zip and nothing else), check the md5 of the file after you've copied it to your card (to make sure it's not corrupted or anything), then reboot to the bootloader; it should scan your card, find the file and ask if you want to update. Click yes and you're away.
Other than that your only options are to flash using adb or fastboot, and you'd need ENG S-OFF for those to work.

It worked well thx man. No expensive brick^^

I have a similar question regarding RILs and AOSP roms.
I'm new to AOSP, but in sense there is generally one RIL per radio, and choosing it is easy ( Just flash the RIL after the ROM )
I've been searching around for a similar system for AOSP roms, but it seems as though it's not quite as cut and dry for AOSP. I know that the RILs are different and generally have G in the filename.
Is there an easy way to check which RIL i should use for my Radio on my current rom (blackice)
My radio is 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and I'm not sure which G RIL to use. Any help anyone can offer is appreciated.

Use whichever one gives you the best performance. There's not one that you "should" use (they're all as good as each other IMO), but if you're having signal/connection/drain issues with the one you're using try another one. If not, I wouldn't bother.
If you must try, you easily can switch between the four available RILs in ICETool.
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Thank you for the quick reply and the info. I thought that it might work that way for aosp but this information is great to confirm it.
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Try these if you haven't already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986

Stock/custom Rom+SD Contents!

Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki

1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes

ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now

Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.

How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
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In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"

Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
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Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.

Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..

Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.

Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.

Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.

Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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ndbubbles said:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml

Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.

Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?

I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity

[Q] Flashing new radio with MIUI

So it seems there is a lot to think about when flashing a new radio, and I suspect I need to update, my Inc data speeds and signal are always terrible. I want to update my Incredible to radio 2.15.00.08.08, but I'm just not sure how or what the best way is with my current setup. Here is what I'm running right now
ROM: MIUI Build 112090
Radio: 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel: 2.6.38.8 Incredikernel
Again, I would like to update to 2.15.00.08.08. I understand that I need to put the PB31IMG.zip on the SD, is this correct? Then I am kind of lost, I know to go into hboot, but I don't know the steps are after getting to HBOOT. I've also heard stuff about needing to dial *228, will I need to do this after, considering I'm on MIUI or what? I hate to be needy and ask for specific steps, but I've searched and haven't found a definitive answer for installing new radios on MIUI. I apologize if I didn't search well enough.
Come to think of it, what radio exactly should I use? And from which site people on XDA reference two different sources to get them from? Should I do 2.15.10.07.07 (GB according to PvilleComp) or 2.15.00.08.08 (Newest Incredible according to rootzwiki)?
There's the list from Rootzwiki, which the Incredible Developer forum sticky references, and users often reference radios from PvilleComp?
Which is the right option?

I can't tell what you attached in your images but either source is correct. On XDA, we refer to "pvillecomp.com" as it's an all in one site for the Incredible.
To install any radio, just label the file as: PB31IMG.zip
1) then place it on the root of the sd card
2) once you boot into hboot, your phone will search for that file name and prompt you to update. I believe it prompts to press volume up to approve the update.
3) boot directly into your rom, in this case MIUI, to ensure the process completes. Don't go into recovery, go straight into your rom as the next step after upgrading your radio.
As for *228 on AOSP, I'm honestly not certain if it works. I know you can do this for Sense roms but I'm not entirely clear that process for AOSP cuz of misinformation.
Edit: once you successfully upgrade your radio, delete the PB31IMG.zip file from your sd card. Otherwise, you will be interrupted with the upgrade process each time you boot into hboot in the future. The radio 07.07 is the newest Incredible radio and 08.08 is the latest from the Evo although it works as well for our phone. Try both but I suggest 07.07 to begin with. Your experience depends on a host of factors.

Thanks, I'll update tonight and see how it goes

Cant flash radio? Need help

Well I'm trying to flash a radio and I dunno why? I try do it by command when the phones in bootloader and I get a error message like remote not allowed. But I don't get it and what to do. I've put a photo of my boot loader if it helps
If anyone could help it would be very appreciate it
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I just started to read last night how to flash one, not much i can help with.
Did you, being in the rom check usb debugging or whatever its called?
Edit: oh my, whatever happened to my grammar? No more posting before my first cup of coffee.
Sent from a dream.

Its because you don't have eng soff. For us "regular" soff we flash a radio via a pd98img formatted zip. If you really want eng soff use the ace hack kit to install it
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kyaldearing said:
Well I'm trying to flash a radio and I dunno why? I try do it by command when the phones in bootloader and I get a error message like remote not allowed. But I don't get it and what to do. I've put a photo of my boot loader if it helps
If anyone could help it would be very appreciate it
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OK guy flashing radios are not an easy task. Especially trying eng s-off and command flashing them. It is not for the noobies to attempt. Please research and read up as much as you can on radio flashing before you end up with an unrepairable expensive paper weight. Flashing radios in pd98img zip formats are the easiest and safest way without eng s-off.
Also radios are based on your region. You may flash a radio and end up with worse service. There's and old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
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Reinaldo33897 said:
OK guy flashing radios are not an easy task. Especially trying eng s-off and command flashing them. It is not for the noobies to attempt. Please research and read up as much as you can on radio flashing before you end up with an unrepairable expensive paper weight. Flashing radios in pd98img zip formats are the easiest and safest way without eng s-off.
Also radios are based on your region. You may flash a radio and end up with worse service. There's and old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
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I have tried doing it as pd98img but it finds it and then says parsing pd98img and then does nothing.
and my service isn't the best and my battery life is terrible with whatever I do it didn't work and also I know your trying to help but your don't have to be all high and mighty and arrogant about knowing what I dont

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295&page=201
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12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M radio version in a flashable PD98IMG.zip. I downloaded it somewhere from ARHD 6.3.1 thread, checked MD5Sum, packed it into a template PD98IMG.zip, unzipped it, checked MD5Sum again (was the same ).
I then calculated the MD5Sum of the new created PD98IMG.zip with the radio.img in it (the one I'm providing here).
The MD5Sum is: 599913d5041450b5c169f65b09b2f859
Download
So download it, put it onto your SD Card and check the MD5Sum before - should work like a charm then.
[I'm not responsible for any possible brick ]
Download that radio version and check md5. Put PD98IMG.zip root of sdcard. Take battery out and put it back in. Then press vol- down and press power button. Phone will ask perform update if all has gone well. If not there is something wrong in your phone software.

Does it matter which Radio version I have in my DHD?

I have a DHD. I just checked the baseband version and it shows 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M. It has root, s-off and a custom rom (i change roms regularly trying them all to find the right one for me).
I have another stock DHD that I currently use as my daily phone and the baseband version in it is 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M.
Physically both phones are identical just one rooted with s-off and a custom rom and the other straight stock.
I assume the baseband version is the same as the Radio version.
Does it matter what baseband version I have? Will an old baseband version mean some functions in a rom won't work?
When flashing a new rom does that flash the radio as well or does that have to be done separately?
I've read the instructions in the Dev RADIO thread about how to flash but just need to know if it's necessary.
cheers
EDIT: Just one other thing:
Is the radio version more relevant to the kernel or the rom? I often flash a new rom but try different kernels with it.

Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
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wow that is interesting. My DHD was locked to the vodafone network in Australia and to get root and s-off I ran the hack kit which I assume put the current radio on it because I am definitely in Australia and nothing to do with ATT.
I know the hack kit downgraded me first so maybe that's how I got an ATT radio.
BTW I thought the safest way to flash a radio was to download the radio.img file and flash it through USB from my PC connected to my DHD?

Yes you can adb it but I myself find it safer the other way.
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Just to add, i have noticed myself with the newer radio i use a.t.m. i have a little better reception (very little).
But is consumes less battery and wifi wont crap out.
But like Reinaldo said "If it ain't broke don't try to fix it"...

thanks for the advice guys.
cheers

I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
Do I assume correctly that if I was to attempt to flash this radio on my DHD that either
A. It would not flash and I would get an error of Incompatible device or something similar
B. I would brick my DHD
C. It would flash and be fine.
Which is the most likely?
If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
cheers

heywheelie said:
I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
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If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
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I flashed Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M using the PD98IMG.zip on Hboot.
It works perfect on both Telstra & Vodafone Au:good:

Same here 3 au no issue.
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excellent, thanks guys.

Flashed using bootloader method. Works perfectly. Thanks again for all the help guys.
cheers