Is it possible to somehow remove the protection that means sense widgets only work with rosie? I love some of them but also really like go launcher pro, so is there a way of porting them? You can get all the apk's out of /system/app but then no idea what would happen from there.
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I read somewhere here that Sense widgets arent real Android widgets ie they dont have the same structure and things.
Therefore they only work on Sense because that is designed to be able to read that different sort of coding. Its not protection in any way, just coding mismatch which doesnt allow it to work without Sense.
Tamen said:
Is it possible to somehow remove the protection that means sense widgets only work with rosie? I love some of them but also really like go launcher pro, so is there a way of porting them? You can get all the apk's out of /system/app but then no idea what would happen from there.
Thanks
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It's the sense framework they rely on, so if you aren't running that the widgets wont run.
So could the framework be made to run on top/in the background but invisibly? That way the widgets could sit on top or have access to the necessary code?
It may be possible to have a "virtual" framework as you're saying but that would really eat up system resources so maybe its not worth it.
Three words.... Launcher Pro Plus....
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Using weather and toggle widgets and have to wonder if it is causing part of my battery life degradation. I use LauncherPro and love the way my device is setup but really want to use the stock HTC clock and weather. Is that possible? How?
It's not possible to use Sense widgets outside of Rosie, the Sense launcher. There are some copycat widgets out there, but you can't use the real HTC ones.
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It's not possible to use Sense widgets outside of Rosie, the Sense launcher. There are some copycat widgets out there, but you can't use the real HTC ones.
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Thanks...is there a way to modify the Sense launcher to look like LauncherPro? Cant stand the stock dock and like the ability to launch my five favorites from any screen.
No problem. You can install themes depending on the ROM you're using. But you're probably better off using LauncherPro and widgets that take the place of Sense widgets.
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No problem. You can install themes depending on the ROM you're using. But you're probably better off using LauncherPro and widgets that take the place of Sense widgets.
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Using Baked Snack 1.8. Is it odd to think that the widgets I mentioned good causing battery drain, especially opposed to the stock Clock/Weather or am I dreaming?
Is there a way to edit the stock HTC dock?
not easily. If you are familiar with creating actual themes and modifying the framework apks then yes. if not then i would look for an existing theme that makes the dock look closer to how you want.
As stated above you are better off looking for replacement widgets and using LP.
the widgets would be causing battery drain but it shoudl be very easy to test ... remove them for a day or 2 and compare.
on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
Exactly...it wont work
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yea sadly there is not much hope of getting the animated weather portion of the widget onto other launchers. you can find alternatives to the clock look however with out the weather animations.
daktah said:
on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
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Beautiful Widgets, Weather and Toggle Widget, and a few others are your only options. Beautiful Widgets is pretty cool. It's got a 4x1 version that basically has the same info -- I'd probably use it even if I did go back to the Sense launcher for some reason.
ya i use beautifulwidgets and i love the customizability but nothing beats those clouds and sunrays flashing of your home screen
too bad someone couldnt figure out how sense does animated widgets and make an openDorothy framework or something that other launchers could piggyback off of to support animated widgets
to those who dont get openDorothy: htc codenamed sense rosie, most noticeable in the actual apk which is called simply rosie.apk.
in the jetsons the maid was named rosie (pic) and was a robot.
in the old anime from the late '99/early '00 the big o there is an android named R. Dorothy Wayneright (pic) who is the main characters assistant. while not technically a maid, its close enough.
so to sum it up, htc sense is codenamed rosie which reminds me of rosie the robot who was a robotic maid which also made me think of r. dorothy who is sort of like a maid and is more advanced than rosie the robot, implying that if someone were able to make the piggyback framework it would be superior to htc sense. also "open"dorothy because it would be better off as opensource. simple right? lol
Hi,
is this possible, can i use the widgets from sense in the launcher of zeam? Becuase i like the sense widgets, but i more like the launcher and the speed of the zeam ...
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Notb really, any launcher dependant widgets can't be used without that launcher whether its sense, LP or whatever....
and then there was root....
Well I do have root, how can i get sense widgets into the zeam launcher, or into any other launcher?
thx
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Well I do have root, how can i get sense widgets into the zeam launcher, or into any other launcher?
thx
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It is not possible to use sense widgets with anyother launcer, you can get sense style widgets using launcher pro plus.
I'm using LPP on my desire z and its really quick and stable,
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That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
mr.boonet said:
That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
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It can not be done. Please search forums
mr.boonet said:
That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
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It's not that simple. Sense is an more interlinked build of android than a stock android build. You want to take the widgets out from the rosie launcher and put them onto a third party launcher, am I right? So you will need to decompile the launcher and remove the widgets, then integrate them into the kernel. But WAIT! You will also need to port over the necessary framework parts. Okay, you've done all that and the widgets are there. But WAIT! They don't work! So know you need to backport the HTC apps that relate to that widget. By the time you are done with that, you pretty much have an entire sense build, thereby defeating the purpose. Basically, unless you know a LOT of backsmali, you won't be able to do this.
The are alternative widgets on the market, for example Beautiful widgets, fancy widget, pure calendar widget, etc. Launcher pro plus also has nearly all of the imitation sense widgets built in too.
haha i already thought it wouldnt be that simple... looks like i really don't have the programming skills to climb this mountain, to bad . Thx tho for the explanation. I got smarter again
I'm a beginner, but I've been trying to read up the various posts/wikis around, so I think I have the basics down. I have root and started playing around with various Sense ROMs (because I was familiar with the default Inc ROM, whatever it's called, stock ROM or something?) but a friend has been raving about how he loves Cyanogen (albeit he has a DRIOD) so I tried it out, and liked it.
I really liked the combo weather/clock widget that is included with the HTC Sense UI though, and I was hoping I could somehow copy the .apk files over to the SD card, and then install them after flashing a non-Sense ROM. I've found a few that look promising, like weather.apk and com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk, but after copying them over, nothing would show up in the app or widget menus, so I think I'm either missing files, or it just won't work.
From the little I know, I'm guessing it's perhaps because there are some system files or calls or something specific to the Sense UI that the widget requires to run?
I saw in Titanium backup that certain apps appear to be tied to certain ROMs, for example TB won't let me install "cyanogen settings" on a non-cyanogen ROM.
Is there just a fundamental difference in the code or somewhere that will stop the weather widget from working? Or can I edit or copy enough files to get this to work? Are there replacements for the weather widget? I saw several posts about something called beautiful widgets, but I also heard that it's either no longer available, doesn't work well, or has other problems.
Less importantly, I also prefer the sense keyboard, calculator, and dialer to the cyanogen ones, can any of those be ported over? Or do they have the same problems?
You cannot use Sense widgets with launchers other than Sense. They are tightly integrated.
There's nothing wrong with BW. It's highly customizable and functional. It's definitely still in the market and definitely still being supported.
Cool, I'll go get that.
Any ideas about the calc/dialer/launcher? I don't think those count as widgets, but maybe they're integrated into Sense also.
They are integrated, with the exception of the HTC keyboard. Search for HTC_IME.
If you want your sense items, you will need to run a sense Rom =/
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DialerOne
DialerOne will allow for speed dialing in an AOSP ROM.
If you used that feature w/ the Sense-based ROMs, that app is a nice way to get speed dial back. Note that it will replace whatever stock dialer is on the ROM.
Also, the only other place I know of that gives the cool clock/weather for AOSP ROMs is BeautifulWidgets - a paid app from the market.
FWIW - the HTC Flashlight does work in AOSP ROMs.
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Fancy Widget Pro
You can skin Fancy Widget Pro to look like the Sense Flip Clock. This is the closest thing to it.
Thanks, I guess the short answer was basically that I just need to get replacements for everything, or learn to like the AOSP versions. Did get Beautiful Widgets though, looks good.
Ok here we go: do you think it is possible to port Sense 4 widgets for use with other launchers?
I know it is not possible to use them now. But Virtuous have been able to get into the m10 files.. So I'm wondering if there would be some way to port the Sense widgets to say Apex or Nova.. (and no, things like "beautiful widgets" just don't cut it, they miss the attention to detail of the true ones)
Why? Quite simply Rosie is starting to get on my nerves, even with the locked fps and such it feels laggy and slow compared to others BUT I don't want to lose the clock, calender, excellent switches etc.
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Ok here we go: do you think it is possible to port Sense 4 widgets for use with other launchers?
I know it is not possible to use them now. But Virtuous have been able to get into the m10 files.. So I'm wondering if there would be some way to port the Sense widgets to say Apex or Nova.. (and no, things like "beautiful widgets" just don't cut it, they miss the attention to detail of the true ones)
Why? Quite simply Rosie is starting to get on my nerves, even with the locked fps and such it feels laggy and slow compared to others BUT I don't want to lose the clock, calender, excellent switches etc.
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No, Sense 4 is closed-source. Write your own widgets (and do a better job at it than HTC did..).