on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
Exactly...it wont work
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yea sadly there is not much hope of getting the animated weather portion of the widget onto other launchers. you can find alternatives to the clock look however with out the weather animations.
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on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
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Beautiful Widgets, Weather and Toggle Widget, and a few others are your only options. Beautiful Widgets is pretty cool. It's got a 4x1 version that basically has the same info -- I'd probably use it even if I did go back to the Sense launcher for some reason.
ya i use beautifulwidgets and i love the customizability but nothing beats those clouds and sunrays flashing of your home screen
too bad someone couldnt figure out how sense does animated widgets and make an openDorothy framework or something that other launchers could piggyback off of to support animated widgets
to those who dont get openDorothy: htc codenamed sense rosie, most noticeable in the actual apk which is called simply rosie.apk.
in the jetsons the maid was named rosie (pic) and was a robot.
in the old anime from the late '99/early '00 the big o there is an android named R. Dorothy Wayneright (pic) who is the main characters assistant. while not technically a maid, its close enough.
so to sum it up, htc sense is codenamed rosie which reminds me of rosie the robot who was a robotic maid which also made me think of r. dorothy who is sort of like a maid and is more advanced than rosie the robot, implying that if someone were able to make the piggyback framework it would be superior to htc sense. also "open"dorothy because it would be better off as opensource. simple right? lol
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This thread is for people who use HTC Sense UI, like HTC Sense UI and are NOT interested in hearing your opinion that Sense sucks comparing to LauncherPro, ADW Launcher or how Sense widgets are replaceable by Beautiful Widgets. If you're planning on posting about those - *PLEASE* don't. This thread is for discussing 3D App Drawer port to HTC Sense UI. Thank You.
I've started this topic on LauncherPro's forum, but so far no helpful responses. I was wondering maybe some devs here can help and provide the info I'm looking for.
If you guys aren't registered, here is my last post, which will summarize the issue:
LauncherPro provides the ability to invoke it's internal screens and applications directly from within HTC Sense. It installs "Activities" icon under "Shortcuts" menu in HTC Sense.
For example: click "+" on Sense homescreen -> chose "Shortcuts" -> chose "Activities" -> select "LauncherPro" -> select "Preferences". A new yellow icon will be placed on Sense homescreen and clicking on it will open LauncherPro's preferences screen directly from Sense.
I think there is no reason why 3D App Drawer could not be invoked the same way. I don't know Sense & android well enough to know, in which config file homescreen icons/shortcuts are stored, and I dont know what is the exact name of 3D App Drawer in LauncherPro (should be something like com.fede.launcher.appdrawer), but I think if someone provided that information people should be able to manually modify Sense config files to add this shortcut to Sense desktop.
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that would be f***ing amazing. Id love to see a 3D app drawer on sense, like the new G2 and nexus one have.
It sounds interesting, maybe is not posible whk knows maybe developers dont really mind the ither one, anyways i think it should be posted on Q&A
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I'm looking for this too!
This is exactly what I am looking for as well. While the other replacement launchers come packed with features they lack any of the wonderful Sense UI Widgets (the wonder of contractual commitment). I love Sense but would like the 3d App Launcher. I hope we can find help...
+1 for this. I love sense widgets but would love the 3d launcher
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So are you just trying to change the Rosie all together or just the app drawer?
I would love to see the entire Rosie changed to scrollable.
Once I used Launcher Pro for a couple days I removed Sense from my ROM and never looked back. Scrollable Rosie, 3D App Drawer, Faster, Sexier, paid version and Market has widgets to make it look just like Sense if you want....whats not to love?
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Once I used Launcher Pro for a couple days I removed Sense from my ROM and never looked back. Scrollable Rosie, 3D App Drawer, Faster, Sexier, paid version and Market has widgets to make it look just like Sense if you want....whats not to love?
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+1 theres enough widgets to make up for sense.... and u have all the other advantages, and smoothness.
I expect this is totally possible. I don't use sense much but it is very cool to learn that you can call launcher pro activities from sense. I wonder if there is some debugging method that reveals the activity names for when one app wants to talk to another.
I'd say just ask fede on twitter. He is a pretty accessible guy.
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Scrollable Rosie
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while I pretty much completely agree with the rest of your statement, I don't understand what you mean by scrollable rosie. Rosie is the name of the sense launcher.
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Ive wanted this since i started rooting/roming my evo, i love stock android 3d app drawer and the phone/apps/internet homescreen layout over sense, but love sense hd n if this becomes possible before or around sense hd completely ported to evo or released officially the ability to incorporate 3d app drwawer to sense would be a great feature
Becuz its really the details that set these phones apart, just depends wut yu like...
maybe it would be possible using Metamorph? that is the only way i would see this working fluently and without much trouble for less experienced users who do not know how to push files etc
After having LauncherPro (both free and now Plus) for some time, I cannot stand Sense anymore. And if you want widgets, just get Beautiful Widgets.
I would love this functionality. I have ADW.launcher because it allows me to use a sense theme with cyanogen mod, but I love launcher pro's app drawer as you can hide apps (ie adblock icon).
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After having LauncherPro (both free and now Plus) for some time, I cannot stand Sense anymore. And if you want widgets, just get Beautiful Widgets.
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Whoever plans on making such posts in this thread - please read the OP.
Sorry, newb question. What does Rosie mean and why would I want to try different versions? Droid INc, SR 3.3.2, 2.15 radio, stock kernel. I've looked at screenshots of different rosie versions, but it just looks like minor appearance and launcher changes. Isn't that sort of what I get with a new rom anyhow?
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the launcher that appears at the bottom of the screen, above the home/menu/back/search buttons - opinions vary on her extent, but nominally that's who she is.
So then what's the big deal with Rosie if launcher pro makes that so easy?
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If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.
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If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.
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I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.
From all I've gathered through this community, Rosie is like a theme on steroids - HTC uses it as a key piece of branding across nearly all their devices. In addition to being the main user interface in terms of widgets, buttons, launcher, etc it also includes an number of hooks and tweaks into core Android itself designed to make the experience more friendly for non-geek users (no insult implied!).
There are two main camps when it comes to Rosie - some dislike it since it adds bulk to the simplicity of vanilla Android, while some others love it for it's prettier user experience and all its widgets. I personally am in the former camp and have learned to love AOSP vanilla.
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I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Did for me.... Thanks
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Absolutely. Thank you! The term Rosie didn't come up on any Android glossaries I found online. You should submit your description...
On a side note, I was a devout BB user for years and I feel like a kid again learning this whole new OS from scratch. I was as deep into BB as many of you are in Android, so just making the change was a huge leap. Some people close to me think I'm obsessed with technology, but for me it's what I find interesting and fun and challenging.
Hi,
is this possible, can i use the widgets from sense in the launcher of zeam? Becuase i like the sense widgets, but i more like the launcher and the speed of the zeam ...
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Notb really, any launcher dependant widgets can't be used without that launcher whether its sense, LP or whatever....
and then there was root....
Well I do have root, how can i get sense widgets into the zeam launcher, or into any other launcher?
thx
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Well I do have root, how can i get sense widgets into the zeam launcher, or into any other launcher?
thx
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It is not possible to use sense widgets with anyother launcer, you can get sense style widgets using launcher pro plus.
I'm using LPP on my desire z and its really quick and stable,
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That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
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That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
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It can not be done. Please search forums
mr.boonet said:
That's very disappointing, i mean, there has to be a way to kinda 'unlock' the widgets from sense in other launchers, because the stock google ones CAN be used... or maybe intigrate the widgets from htc into the google widgets data base in the rom or something.... maybe i should check that out, maybe its just as easy as copy paste tho i dont really think so...
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It's not that simple. Sense is an more interlinked build of android than a stock android build. You want to take the widgets out from the rosie launcher and put them onto a third party launcher, am I right? So you will need to decompile the launcher and remove the widgets, then integrate them into the kernel. But WAIT! You will also need to port over the necessary framework parts. Okay, you've done all that and the widgets are there. But WAIT! They don't work! So know you need to backport the HTC apps that relate to that widget. By the time you are done with that, you pretty much have an entire sense build, thereby defeating the purpose. Basically, unless you know a LOT of backsmali, you won't be able to do this.
The are alternative widgets on the market, for example Beautiful widgets, fancy widget, pure calendar widget, etc. Launcher pro plus also has nearly all of the imitation sense widgets built in too.
haha i already thought it wouldnt be that simple... looks like i really don't have the programming skills to climb this mountain, to bad . Thx tho for the explanation. I got smarter again
I'm a beginner, but I've been trying to read up the various posts/wikis around, so I think I have the basics down. I have root and started playing around with various Sense ROMs (because I was familiar with the default Inc ROM, whatever it's called, stock ROM or something?) but a friend has been raving about how he loves Cyanogen (albeit he has a DRIOD) so I tried it out, and liked it.
I really liked the combo weather/clock widget that is included with the HTC Sense UI though, and I was hoping I could somehow copy the .apk files over to the SD card, and then install them after flashing a non-Sense ROM. I've found a few that look promising, like weather.apk and com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk, but after copying them over, nothing would show up in the app or widget menus, so I think I'm either missing files, or it just won't work.
From the little I know, I'm guessing it's perhaps because there are some system files or calls or something specific to the Sense UI that the widget requires to run?
I saw in Titanium backup that certain apps appear to be tied to certain ROMs, for example TB won't let me install "cyanogen settings" on a non-cyanogen ROM.
Is there just a fundamental difference in the code or somewhere that will stop the weather widget from working? Or can I edit or copy enough files to get this to work? Are there replacements for the weather widget? I saw several posts about something called beautiful widgets, but I also heard that it's either no longer available, doesn't work well, or has other problems.
Less importantly, I also prefer the sense keyboard, calculator, and dialer to the cyanogen ones, can any of those be ported over? Or do they have the same problems?
You cannot use Sense widgets with launchers other than Sense. They are tightly integrated.
There's nothing wrong with BW. It's highly customizable and functional. It's definitely still in the market and definitely still being supported.
Cool, I'll go get that.
Any ideas about the calc/dialer/launcher? I don't think those count as widgets, but maybe they're integrated into Sense also.
They are integrated, with the exception of the HTC keyboard. Search for HTC_IME.
If you want your sense items, you will need to run a sense Rom =/
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DialerOne
DialerOne will allow for speed dialing in an AOSP ROM.
If you used that feature w/ the Sense-based ROMs, that app is a nice way to get speed dial back. Note that it will replace whatever stock dialer is on the ROM.
Also, the only other place I know of that gives the cool clock/weather for AOSP ROMs is BeautifulWidgets - a paid app from the market.
FWIW - the HTC Flashlight does work in AOSP ROMs.
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Fancy Widget Pro
You can skin Fancy Widget Pro to look like the Sense Flip Clock. This is the closest thing to it.
Thanks, I guess the short answer was basically that I just need to get replacements for everything, or learn to like the AOSP versions. Did get Beautiful Widgets though, looks good.
whats up ppl i was just wondering if is it possible to have a AOSP rom wit the sense widgets (flip clock, sync all, settings, etc) cuz lets be real the AOSP widgets are wake and if it is can u tell me how to cuz im a new in this and thnx in adv.
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Pay version of launcher pro has widgets similar to sense with the exception of the clock.
For the clock, you need the pay versions of either Beautiful Widgets of Fancy Widgets. I know for sure Fancy Widgets has skins to make the clock look identical to the sense clock. It also has screen on animations and weather animations when you open the weather.
A number of third party messenger and calendar apps also have their own widgets.
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Pay version of launcher pro has widgets similar to sense with the exception of the clock.
For the clock, you need the pay versions of either Beautiful Widgets of Fancy Widgets. I know for sure Fancy Widgets has skins to make the clock look identical to the sense clock. It also has screen on animations and weather animations when you open the weather.
A number of third party messenger and calendar apps also have their own widgets.
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yea i was watching a video on youtube of fancy widgets but the animation when u unlock the phone does not work right and a another Q how do u put the signature (like the one u have after the line ) in here cuz i been looking around in my profile and i dont see any part for signature
Screen unlock animation worked fine for me. I think beautiful widgets has one too. Neither are as good as sense though. Worth the sacrifice for me though since I don't really like Sense.
Look under quick links at the top of the screen. One of them is edit sig.