Sorry, newb question. What does Rosie mean and why would I want to try different versions? Droid INc, SR 3.3.2, 2.15 radio, stock kernel. I've looked at screenshots of different rosie versions, but it just looks like minor appearance and launcher changes. Isn't that sort of what I get with a new rom anyhow?
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the launcher that appears at the bottom of the screen, above the home/menu/back/search buttons - opinions vary on her extent, but nominally that's who she is.
So then what's the big deal with Rosie if launcher pro makes that so easy?
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If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.
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If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.
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I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.
From all I've gathered through this community, Rosie is like a theme on steroids - HTC uses it as a key piece of branding across nearly all their devices. In addition to being the main user interface in terms of widgets, buttons, launcher, etc it also includes an number of hooks and tweaks into core Android itself designed to make the experience more friendly for non-geek users (no insult implied!).
There are two main camps when it comes to Rosie - some dislike it since it adds bulk to the simplicity of vanilla Android, while some others love it for it's prettier user experience and all its widgets. I personally am in the former camp and have learned to love AOSP vanilla.
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I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Did for me.... Thanks
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Absolutely. Thank you! The term Rosie didn't come up on any Android glossaries I found online. You should submit your description...
On a side note, I was a devout BB user for years and I feel like a kid again learning this whole new OS from scratch. I was as deep into BB as many of you are in Android, so just making the change was a huge leap. Some people close to me think I'm obsessed with technology, but for me it's what I find interesting and fun and challenging.
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is this possible. i really hate it and i don't want to go htc senseless because i love it and so easy to use. any way to remove it?
i agree. is it anyway to get the slide bar like on hd2 that would be cool.
eduardmc said:
is this possible. i really hate it and i don't want to go htc senseless because i love it and so easy to use. any way to remove it?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=124205 Maybe this will help
You could just use a different launcher... You'll lose the Sense widgets but other elements of Sense (FB integration in contacts, etc) will remain. I've gotta say I'm not terribly fond of HTC's launcher so far, buncha wasted space on the bottom bar and the layout makes very little sense (why do I need a permanent button to add additional shortcuts to my screens?).
Widget apps like Beatiful Widgets and Pure Calendar can easily replace most of the HTC Widgets... I'll probably go thru all of HTC's Widgets tomorrow to see if there's any I'll miss before trying out a different launcher. My 2 cents...
Give Helix launcher from the market a try. It keeps a sticky row of your most used apps at the bottom. Very handy. It also turn landscape.
s there away to have launcher pro but still have htc sense?And with the widgets?
yes you can swicth between both
technically no because sense is basically a launcher over top of standard android. its either one or the other. however launcher pro has sense themes on their site if you dont really care about the sense widgets much.
This should be in Q & A and not Android Dev...
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This should be in Q & A and not Android Dev...
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Like the others said, you can have both Sense & LauncherPro, & switch between them, but you can't have the Sense Widgets on LauncherPro. There are plenty of look-alikes in the market you can use though.
additionally if you get launcherpro plus you get a decent replacement for most of the sense widgets that have been remade for launcher pro and can resize widgets which is prettynice.
Add SwitchPro to that mix and you've got everything you need! Heck, between the triple-scrolling task bar at the bottom, 8 SP slots for all my radios and functions I access, three normal shortcuts, and a resized calendar widget, I have everything on one home screen.
Not to forget that you can get up to 7 by 9 icons on the home screen and a rolling apps listing in "3D".
EasyHome
I use an app from the market called EasyHome. It places shortcuts of different launchers on your homescreen! I have sense, adw-launcher, launcherpro, and an experimental AndroidWindows7 launcher.
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Not to forget that you can get up to 7 by 9 icons on the home screen and a rolling apps listing in "3D".
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Oh i thought yuo could do those with the non paid version! even more bonus.
I have had the paid since it came out so hard to keep up with all the benefits there are tons. worth every cent.
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Why would you want it
i could see someone who really likes the sense widgets wanting to but thats why launcherpro plus has recreated them. with out purchasing any apps(or launchers) it is very hard to replace all the sense widgets with something that is as good as what sense has (widget wise).
If you look you can find many that are close but a lot are paid apps. personally i still think your best bet is to simply buy the plus version of launcher pro and as mentioned switchpro. between the two and a few free apps you can replace almost every sense widget.
while its easy to ask why would you its not hard to see why someone would want to if they didnt have knowledge of which apps to get to replace the sense widgets and lets be honest looking for anything in the market is no easy task if you dont know its name.
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This thread is for people who use HTC Sense UI, like HTC Sense UI and are NOT interested in hearing your opinion that Sense sucks comparing to LauncherPro, ADW Launcher or how Sense widgets are replaceable by Beautiful Widgets. If you're planning on posting about those - *PLEASE* don't. This thread is for discussing 3D App Drawer port to HTC Sense UI. Thank You.
I've started this topic on LauncherPro's forum, but so far no helpful responses. I was wondering maybe some devs here can help and provide the info I'm looking for.
If you guys aren't registered, here is my last post, which will summarize the issue:
LauncherPro provides the ability to invoke it's internal screens and applications directly from within HTC Sense. It installs "Activities" icon under "Shortcuts" menu in HTC Sense.
For example: click "+" on Sense homescreen -> chose "Shortcuts" -> chose "Activities" -> select "LauncherPro" -> select "Preferences". A new yellow icon will be placed on Sense homescreen and clicking on it will open LauncherPro's preferences screen directly from Sense.
I think there is no reason why 3D App Drawer could not be invoked the same way. I don't know Sense & android well enough to know, in which config file homescreen icons/shortcuts are stored, and I dont know what is the exact name of 3D App Drawer in LauncherPro (should be something like com.fede.launcher.appdrawer), but I think if someone provided that information people should be able to manually modify Sense config files to add this shortcut to Sense desktop.
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that would be f***ing amazing. Id love to see a 3D app drawer on sense, like the new G2 and nexus one have.
It sounds interesting, maybe is not posible whk knows maybe developers dont really mind the ither one, anyways i think it should be posted on Q&A
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I'm looking for this too!
This is exactly what I am looking for as well. While the other replacement launchers come packed with features they lack any of the wonderful Sense UI Widgets (the wonder of contractual commitment). I love Sense but would like the 3d App Launcher. I hope we can find help...
+1 for this. I love sense widgets but would love the 3d launcher
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So are you just trying to change the Rosie all together or just the app drawer?
I would love to see the entire Rosie changed to scrollable.
Once I used Launcher Pro for a couple days I removed Sense from my ROM and never looked back. Scrollable Rosie, 3D App Drawer, Faster, Sexier, paid version and Market has widgets to make it look just like Sense if you want....whats not to love?
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Once I used Launcher Pro for a couple days I removed Sense from my ROM and never looked back. Scrollable Rosie, 3D App Drawer, Faster, Sexier, paid version and Market has widgets to make it look just like Sense if you want....whats not to love?
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+1 theres enough widgets to make up for sense.... and u have all the other advantages, and smoothness.
I expect this is totally possible. I don't use sense much but it is very cool to learn that you can call launcher pro activities from sense. I wonder if there is some debugging method that reveals the activity names for when one app wants to talk to another.
I'd say just ask fede on twitter. He is a pretty accessible guy.
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Scrollable Rosie
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while I pretty much completely agree with the rest of your statement, I don't understand what you mean by scrollable rosie. Rosie is the name of the sense launcher.
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Ive wanted this since i started rooting/roming my evo, i love stock android 3d app drawer and the phone/apps/internet homescreen layout over sense, but love sense hd n if this becomes possible before or around sense hd completely ported to evo or released officially the ability to incorporate 3d app drwawer to sense would be a great feature
Becuz its really the details that set these phones apart, just depends wut yu like...
maybe it would be possible using Metamorph? that is the only way i would see this working fluently and without much trouble for less experienced users who do not know how to push files etc
After having LauncherPro (both free and now Plus) for some time, I cannot stand Sense anymore. And if you want widgets, just get Beautiful Widgets.
I would love this functionality. I have ADW.launcher because it allows me to use a sense theme with cyanogen mod, but I love launcher pro's app drawer as you can hide apps (ie adblock icon).
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After having LauncherPro (both free and now Plus) for some time, I cannot stand Sense anymore. And if you want widgets, just get Beautiful Widgets.
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Whoever plans on making such posts in this thread - please read the OP.
I'm trying out a new launcher (ZEAM) and it looks like HTC Sense still stays open in the background.. how do I get rid of it completely? I don't want 2 launchers running..
Also - anyway to use the HTC Widgets on Zeam? I love the Calendar widget and the weather/clock one
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I'm trying out a new launcher (ZEAM) and it looks like HTC Sense still stays open in the background.. how do I get rid of it completely? I don't want 2 launchers running..
Also - anyway to use the HTC Widgets on Zeam? I love the Calendar widget and the weather/clock one
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Here is calkulins flashable zip that will completely remove HTC sense from your phone. This will also remove all sense widgets I believe. Also, I have never used Zeam launcher, but I would speculate that you can't use HTC sense widgets on it (at least you cant with launcher pro or adw launcher). They only work with sense. There are quite a few other widgets out there though that look very similar to HTC's widgets.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cgddget1gztbc5h/Calkulin's_Remove_Sense.zip
Also here is a link to calk's page that all sorts of mods/tweaks/goodies and such. Useful bookmark. They work on pretty much any sense rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785271
I've got a rooted and deodexed Inc2 running Virtuous Unitity 2.39. Ihave the HTC Sense 3.0 it comes with as well as GO Launcher...and have Home Switcher App to change from one to the other.
It seems to me that having the 5 button selection bar on the bottom (that can be swiped and added to unlimited times) is so much more efficient use of space and provides better choice that it removes any rationale to have anything like HTC Sense with it's standard three choices (and only two which are really used much).
What am I missing? Why can't others have the great lower selection choices of GO Launcher (is it correct calling this the Rosie bar?)? What does the HTC Sense give me that is more functional and useable?
The VU2.3.9 runs fine and was a clean and easy install.
If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?
You do lose the sense Widgets but like go and launcher pro they have built in Widgets. The lockscreen is an additional apk. Themes will stick as far as status bar goes. Also launcher pro, adw, and go launcher have downloadable themes.
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If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?
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No with launcher pro plus
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The only reason I use Sense 3.0 is for the gadgets and the purdy interface, I would have switch to something else like the gingervanilla, other AOSP or RMK debloated stock rom if I were to use Go launcher.
You do lose some Sense widgets, but the lockout screen stays tied to Sense. For example, I have the weather on the lockout screen, but even when I switch to GO, the lockout screen after has the fancy weather animation.
I get a "sense" that there is not really a reason to deal with the HTC Sense launcher other than looks, but if I am wrong, let me know where.
I do know that I love having the 5 button rosie which I can spin to more 5 button rosies at the bottom. Much better use of screen real estate.
Sense is nice and its all preference
Can you know to me what's this your theme ?
i like the battery...Im using ROM BAMF...so Can I use this theme?
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Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?
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Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?
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No launcher pro plus has the "sense" widgets built into the launcher. They are look alike
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I didn't like the sense-like Widgets. They didn't have the same feel as the real thing. But I do still prefer LP to anything else including Sense (most of the time)
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I think that is a loaded question. My thinking is Sense is for people that like Sense and AOSP roms are for people that don't care for it. I'm just trying to make things simple.
IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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I actually don't care for the Sense widgets or the Rosie launcher at all. I use the Pure Messenger widget from the Market, and while it's not as pretty as a Sense widget, it combines e-mail, text/sms messages, phone calls, facebook and twitter into a single messaging widget as opposed to Sense's separate widgets for each.
As for the launcher, I just can't justify dedicating the whole bottom of the screen to 2 buttons - the app drawer and the phone button. The customize button is stupid, once you have the phone set up the way you like, that button is largely useless.
Of course, these are just my opinions, but to me, Sense is far from superior/more professional than anything else.
The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation
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The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation
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Fancy widget pro is better than the sense clock, you can get the senseclock, plus tons of different themed clocks, that is what i use. I like the sense photo album widget, which is pretty much the only widget that doesn't have a replacement app. I can't say i enjoy sense when very much and i usually run an AOSP rom (omfgb currently) but have a couple nice sense rom backups on my phone for when I'm itching to use sense.