I'm a beginner, but I've been trying to read up the various posts/wikis around, so I think I have the basics down. I have root and started playing around with various Sense ROMs (because I was familiar with the default Inc ROM, whatever it's called, stock ROM or something?) but a friend has been raving about how he loves Cyanogen (albeit he has a DRIOD) so I tried it out, and liked it.
I really liked the combo weather/clock widget that is included with the HTC Sense UI though, and I was hoping I could somehow copy the .apk files over to the SD card, and then install them after flashing a non-Sense ROM. I've found a few that look promising, like weather.apk and com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk, but after copying them over, nothing would show up in the app or widget menus, so I think I'm either missing files, or it just won't work.
From the little I know, I'm guessing it's perhaps because there are some system files or calls or something specific to the Sense UI that the widget requires to run?
I saw in Titanium backup that certain apps appear to be tied to certain ROMs, for example TB won't let me install "cyanogen settings" on a non-cyanogen ROM.
Is there just a fundamental difference in the code or somewhere that will stop the weather widget from working? Or can I edit or copy enough files to get this to work? Are there replacements for the weather widget? I saw several posts about something called beautiful widgets, but I also heard that it's either no longer available, doesn't work well, or has other problems.
Less importantly, I also prefer the sense keyboard, calculator, and dialer to the cyanogen ones, can any of those be ported over? Or do they have the same problems?
You cannot use Sense widgets with launchers other than Sense. They are tightly integrated.
There's nothing wrong with BW. It's highly customizable and functional. It's definitely still in the market and definitely still being supported.
Cool, I'll go get that.
Any ideas about the calc/dialer/launcher? I don't think those count as widgets, but maybe they're integrated into Sense also.
They are integrated, with the exception of the HTC keyboard. Search for HTC_IME.
If you want your sense items, you will need to run a sense Rom =/
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DialerOne
DialerOne will allow for speed dialing in an AOSP ROM.
If you used that feature w/ the Sense-based ROMs, that app is a nice way to get speed dial back. Note that it will replace whatever stock dialer is on the ROM.
Also, the only other place I know of that gives the cool clock/weather for AOSP ROMs is BeautifulWidgets - a paid app from the market.
FWIW - the HTC Flashlight does work in AOSP ROMs.
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Fancy Widget Pro
You can skin Fancy Widget Pro to look like the Sense Flip Clock. This is the closest thing to it.
Thanks, I guess the short answer was basically that I just need to get replacements for everything, or learn to like the AOSP versions. Did get Beautiful Widgets though, looks good.
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Hi guys,
I'm considering getting one of your excellent modded ROMs. However, I hear a lot of good things about the Cyanogenmod, so I would really like to wait for that.
However: Is it possible to have the CM ROM with the Sense Friendstream, calender widget, mail widget and music widget?
Those really outbeat anything I have seen on the market - but apart from that I'd much rather just have a clean Helix launcher on 2.1.
Is it possible you think?
iirc they don't work outside sense-ui, htc widgets have depencies on sense-ui so is necessary.
I would firstly like to express my gratitude to everyone involved in making the Incredible live up to its name.
I have cycled through various ROMs, and at one point I had SkyRaider 2.5.2 Vanilla. (This is my first Android-based device, so if I use n00b terminology don't flame me to death.) The homescreen looks to be stock android, as opposed to the Sense "Themes", but I must admit, the selection of widgets is awful. I really like the HTC homescreen widgets, like the flip-clock and weather widget.
Basically put, is there a way to get the HTC Sense widgets in a vanilla flavored ROM?
I know this would require running both Sense UI and whatever would be running the stock Android home screen. I downloaded the apks and I would get an error message saying "Application not installed" when I tried to put on the HTC widgets.
(Sorry, typically I would research what exact terms I'm looking to say but I'm feeling lazy today.)
Thanks in advance!
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I would firstly like to express my gratitude to everyone involved in making the Incredible live up to its name.
I have cycled through various ROMs, and at one point I had SkyRaider 2.5.2 Vanilla. (This is my first Android-based device, so if I use n00b terminology don't flame me to death.) The homescreen looks to be stock android, as opposed to the Sense "Themes", but I must admit, the selection of widgets is awful. I really like the HTC homescreen widgets, like the flip-clock and weather widget.
Basically put, is there a way to get the HTC Sense widgets in a vanilla flavored ROM?
I know this would require running both Sense UI and whatever would be running the stock Android home screen. I downloaded the apks and I would get an error message saying "Application not installed" when I tried to put on the HTC widgets.
(Sorry, typically I would research what exact terms I'm looking to say but I'm feeling lazy today.)
Thanks in advance!
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Beautiful widgets is a good place to start. It's in the Market.
Beautiful Widgets is nice and it's really customizable. I really only wanted the Sense style flip clock with the weather, so I went with Fancy Widget.
As far as getting Sense stuff in SR Vanilla, you can do it but it takes some monkeying around with what needs to be installed in order to make other stuff work. If you're wanting Sense stuff with Vanilla styling, the best thing to do is to get a Vanilla theme. I think someone had one called tainted vanilla or something. It should lay right over the top of Sense... You'll still have the Sense launcher, but you can add another launcher app (I use ADW.Launcher) to make it feel less like Sense.
Best option if you want sense-like widgets on a Vanilla ROM is to use LauncherPro Plus and Beautiful Widgets.
That'll cover just about everything.
on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
Exactly...it wont work
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yea sadly there is not much hope of getting the animated weather portion of the widget onto other launchers. you can find alternatives to the clock look however with out the weather animations.
daktah said:
on a sense rom like fresh how would one go about, through apk editing/hacking or otherwise, how would one go about making sense widgets appear in nonsense launchers. i was thinking that you could insert the necessary frameworks and whatnot into the clock widget apk and make it look for them inside the apk instead of the htc framework but i have no idea how you would do this or if it even would work
at least is there a way to copy the weather animations somehow?
edit- after some research apparently the stock android framework doest support animated widgets which is kinda sad.
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Beautiful Widgets, Weather and Toggle Widget, and a few others are your only options. Beautiful Widgets is pretty cool. It's got a 4x1 version that basically has the same info -- I'd probably use it even if I did go back to the Sense launcher for some reason.
ya i use beautifulwidgets and i love the customizability but nothing beats those clouds and sunrays flashing of your home screen
too bad someone couldnt figure out how sense does animated widgets and make an openDorothy framework or something that other launchers could piggyback off of to support animated widgets
to those who dont get openDorothy: htc codenamed sense rosie, most noticeable in the actual apk which is called simply rosie.apk.
in the jetsons the maid was named rosie (pic) and was a robot.
in the old anime from the late '99/early '00 the big o there is an android named R. Dorothy Wayneright (pic) who is the main characters assistant. while not technically a maid, its close enough.
so to sum it up, htc sense is codenamed rosie which reminds me of rosie the robot who was a robotic maid which also made me think of r. dorothy who is sort of like a maid and is more advanced than rosie the robot, implying that if someone were able to make the piggyback framework it would be superior to htc sense. also "open"dorothy because it would be better off as opensource. simple right? lol
Is it possible to somehow remove the protection that means sense widgets only work with rosie? I love some of them but also really like go launcher pro, so is there a way of porting them? You can get all the apk's out of /system/app but then no idea what would happen from there.
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I read somewhere here that Sense widgets arent real Android widgets ie they dont have the same structure and things.
Therefore they only work on Sense because that is designed to be able to read that different sort of coding. Its not protection in any way, just coding mismatch which doesnt allow it to work without Sense.
Tamen said:
Is it possible to somehow remove the protection that means sense widgets only work with rosie? I love some of them but also really like go launcher pro, so is there a way of porting them? You can get all the apk's out of /system/app but then no idea what would happen from there.
Thanks
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It's the sense framework they rely on, so if you aren't running that the widgets wont run.
So could the framework be made to run on top/in the background but invisibly? That way the widgets could sit on top or have access to the necessary code?
It may be possible to have a "virtual" framework as you're saying but that would really eat up system resources so maybe its not worth it.
Three words.... Launcher Pro Plus....
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Hey Guys and Girls,
I love roms,I am always flashing new ones but I have an idea and I need help getting it.So I like sense but love gingerbread,the thing i love about sense is the lock screen where i can drag the apps to the bubble.Thats pretty much it,so I want to have gingerbread as my actual home screen,app screen,and for my keyboard.I know this sounds pretty crazy but can anyone help me find a rom or apps that can help my obtain this.Answers to this quetion would be very appreciated
install a sense rom then install a launcher from the market
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Agile lock from the market is a nice sense 3.0 lockscreen clone. Its still inferior as the software is a little edgy and there aren't any sms previews like the sense 3.0 one has. I currently use this with CM7 along with sms popup from the market and it works great.
Otherwise download a stable sense rom with the sense 3.0 lockscreen (Nils Gingersense, Synergy) and use a different launcher.
There's also SupraROM which is an AOSP Sense 3.0 mix, but I'm not sure if it has the sense lockscreen.
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I know when I ran MIUI about a month ago there was a Sense ring lockscreen you could install in Theme Manager. The downside was I couldn't figure out how to pick what apps other than the ones it gave you. Maybe that's changed, not sure there.
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I know when I ran MIUI about a month ago there was a Sense ring lockscreen you could install in Theme Manager. The downside was I couldn't figure out how to pick what apps other than the ones it gave you. Maybe that's changed, not sure there.
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Ah right, I forgot about this option.
I do believe that they can be changed. You have to edit a text file though so its not as easy as HTC makes it. There's a MIUI lockscreen thread with a few of those sense ring lockscreen alternatives. However they all have one thing in common: when releasing the ring, the screen immediately unlocks. No cool "fly through the ring" effect.
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Div033 is correct on the MIUI sense 3.0 lockscreens, they look pretty much identical but lack the fancy animation.
I'm not sure what the OP means by this:
brw216 said:
so I want to have gingerbread as my actual home screen,app screen,and for my keyboard.
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By gingerbread, do you mean the stock AOSP look? Because if so, you could use agile lock on CM7, like has already been mentioned, or maybe try the synergy rom with the warm theme. It has the sense 3.0 lockscreen but is themed with quite a few AOSP gingerbread elements.