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Everyone should check this thread, as it seems to be the general feeling I've seen all over xda lately. New members could learn something just by reading what is expected/accepted from xda forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476671

Completly agree showaco
Let´s hope a lot of members can read that

wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all

stylez said:
wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all
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Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?

thousandlegs said:
Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?
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I never wrote that....
As for the ROM you'll have to speak to show probably one of his morts.. JK

stylez said:
wow thanks for pointing that out show, only read first page so far as it silly o'clock, the same goes for general questions as the more savy user has to see, repetative bull over and over, maybe it's time that XDA made some kind of enrolement first implented task how to use the search, then how to read more than the one page of a thread that the question asked could be covered 2 ~ 5 pages earlier, oh and make people fill out there signature with device info as i'm sure lots of members think we have the power of mind reading...
Oh and how not to quote the whole first post inc images when replying or asking that silly question.
Good morning all
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I agree with this, all I've been seeing lately are pointless threads made by newbs with a 1-10 post record that don't take the time to search and just want the people to give them the answers to all thier issues. I myself have found answers to some of them within a minute with our search feature, that if they would've used the search , they wouldn't needed to post dumb questions that they could've answer themselfs only if they took the time to seach and do a little reading.

thousandlegs said:
Oh, my God, it's that Brit chiming in with his two cents (pence).
I flashed my phone with the stylezrickynrgkavanashowaco 3.14 and now my phone thinks it's a dessert and it's making my hands sticky. WTF?
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stylez said:
I never wrote that....
As for the ROM you'll have to speak to show probably one of his morts.. JK
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Hey now, its not my fault that your phones can't run all the cool stuff and gets sticky when you watch your porn on wmp
roloracer said:
I agree with this, all I've been seeing lately are pointless threads made by newbs with a 1-10 post record that don't take the time to search and just want the people to give them the answers to all thier issues. I myself have found answers to some of them within a minute with our search feature, that if they would've used the search , they wouldn't needed to post dumb questions that they could've answer themselfs only if they took the time to seach and do a little reading.
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Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy

showaco said:
Hey now, its not my fault that your phones can't run all the cool stuff and gets sticky when you watch your porn on wmp
Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy
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This thread ftw.
In all seriousness, there is a lot to be learned from the OP link. Flashing roms is easy and people who don't need to be doing it are. I'm no chef and, God forbid, I f-up my phone I know it's my fault.
Everyone should use caution. These roms are not put out to screw up your device but stupidity and an inability to follow directions to a T will. You do take your device into your own hands, literally and figuratively, when you do these kinds of modifications.
The rewards of a tweak gone right can only be equalled by the risks of the same tweak when done by inexperienced users.
HOLY SH**! I didn't mean to write a dissertation there.

showaco said:
Exactly, but looking at response of this thread, I guess the 5 people posting in this thread are the only ones here in this forum that care whats going on. Which means the rest must be the enemy
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"It's all out War" ​

The first thing I found when I came on tonight was a new thread with a new member on his/her first post asking that just flashed 6.1 and can't add the sounds for text messages. Honestly, somehow they should block new members from creating new threads until they have at least a 50+ post score, that would make them use the SEARCH feature and get involved in ongoing threads instead of creating a thread with a question that it has been answered or its a working issue that other people are discussing on a different thread. I don't want to be a prick to new guys, cause I was there before, but I always took the time to use the most apparently elusive feature that is called SEARCH

roloracer said:
The first thing I found when I came on tonight was a new thread with a new member on his/her first post asking that just flashed 6.1 and can't add the sounds for text messages. Honestly, somehow they should block new members from creating new threads until they have at least a 50+ post score, that would make them use the SEARCH feature and get involved in ongoing threads instead of creating a thread with a question that it has been answered or its a working issue that other people are discussing on a different thread. I don't want to be a prick to new guys, cause I was there before, but I always took the time to use the most apparently elusive feature that is called SEARCH
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yeah I agree (postcount++)
edit: crap I'm only at 14 posts :-\

I don't agree with post count policy, 'cause I've seen some with almost no posts start a thread with some of the greatest/tools software for xda. We probably would have never gotten them if we had limited the authors til 50 posts. Someone had mentioned a rating, where a post/thread could be deleted by a certain number of members voting a rating against it. Sadly, in the end, there is probably nothing we can do to stop the stupid posts and still keep the possibility of a great "noob" post that we need.

showaco said:
I don't agree with post count policy, 'cause I've seen some with almost no posts start a thread with some of the greatest/tools software for xda. We probably would have never gotten them if we had limited the authors til 50 posts. Someone had mentioned a rating, where a post/thread could be deleted by a certain number of members voting a rating against it. Sadly, in the end, there is probably nothing we can do to stop the stupid posts and still keep the possibility of a great "noob" post that we need.
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That's fine, the post count thing was just an idea, we just need to figure out a way to encourage new people to search , and ask questions .

roloracer said:
That's fine, the post count thing was just an idea, we just need to figure out a way to encourage new people to search , and ask questions .
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Naked chicks on the search page... TWEAKED
Oh and another rank "The Cleaners"

stylez said:
Naked chicks on the search page... TWEAKED
Oh and another rank "The Cleaners"
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Yeahh I love naked chicks maybe some boobage on the search feature, (touch here newbes)

roloracer said:
Yeahh I love naked chicks maybe some boobage on the search feature, (touch here newbes)
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I'm pretty sure we'd all still be noobs if there were boobs involved.
Boobs 4 Noobs @ XDA-Developers FTMFW!!!
w00t!

We must've been the only ones that care about this issue cause out of 254 views only 6 people cared enough to post and talk about it. That's sad
Oh well, at least we know some of us care.

roloracer said:
We must've been the only ones that care about this issue cause out of 254 views only 6 people cared enough to post and talk about it. That's sad
Oh well, at least we know some of us care.
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I care, roloracer, I care. *tear*
Seriously though, the board is rife with posts like "I just flashed (xx.xx) and now my keyboard buttons dont work right." or "Can I use this on my i880?" or "I REEELY NEED TO FOR HAVE SOMEONE UNLOCK MY DASHES SO THAT I CAN USE IT ON THE (non t-mobile) NETWORK?"

thousandlegs said:
I care, roloracer, I care. *tear*
Seriously though, the board is rife with posts like "I just flashed (xx.xx) and now my keyboard buttons dont work right." or "Can I use this on my i880?" or "I REEELY NEED TO FOR HAVE SOMEONE UNLOCK MY DASHES SO THAT I CAN USE IT ON THE (non t-mobile) NETWORK?"
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Yes it's a mess of idiosyncratic posts, how lazy can people be???
Oh peeps are just unbelievable like that locking thread i posted i could unlock Dash with a pic of a lighter, well guess what the PM's came a rollin...
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Where is that thread we used to put the numptys?​

stylez said:
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PMSL,TISFSMF
(pissed myself laughing, that is some funny sh1t mother ****er)

Not my idea of a community

"Welcome to xda-developers
...the largest Internet community of smartphone enthusiasts and developers for the Android and Windows Mobile platforms. Visit the world famous XDA Forums or continue to browse our portal."
The above is copied directly from the xda home page. There are several words in there that misled me. "Welcome", "community", and "enthusiasts". I took those words to mean that any and all comments and questions would be welcome and answered by those who had more information than the "noobs" of which I am one. Unfortunately, I have found that not to be the case. I have posted several questions and the only answer I have gotten was less than friendly. I'm aware that IF anyone reads this, it will be dismissed as whining, or possibly removed by the xda people. I have read lots of unfriendly replies to questions by people who are trying to learn about their phones, whether it's basic features or more advanced development. Apparently, the people who know how to root, flash ROMs, overclock, and so on, have either forgotten or don't care that at one time, they didn't know anything either. Some of them probably figured it out for themselves, and some of them got help from others. But now that they are no longer noobs, they are condescending and sometimes downright rude to the new noobs. I was hoping to learn some things, possibly make some connections, and share the things I learn with the people who are just starting out. It looks like I'm going to have to figure this stuff out on my own. When I do, rather than be rude and dismissive, I will make every effort to help others and share what I've learned. But it will have to be somewhere other than xda because that doesn't happen much around here.

I totaly disagree.
1st .I did check all your seven posts and in none of them ive found any rude comment.
2nd . I was able to search for your posts title subject and ive found many other threads open, my suggestion for been not ignored is to use the opened threads instead to open a new one.
3rd. XDA is the share knowledge place, you will not find another forum like this,many people share everything all the days,there is not a magic button that say "lemme learn" ,just take the time to search,read 1st post( they always have the answers),read the other people comments and you will be able to do what you need............this is only what we have done from the begin

I appreciate your reply. The main reason you didn't find any rude responses is because there were no responses period. I'm not trying to find a magic "lemme learn" button but what good is it to post questions if nobody answers? I searched the threads before I posted and didn't find the answer to my question. By the way, if you searched all my posts, did you answer any of them?

moonpiedave said:
I appreciate your reply. The main reason you didn't find any rude responses is because there were no responses period. I'm not trying to find a magic "lemme learn" button but what good is it to post questions if nobody answers? I searched the threads before I posted and didn't find the answer to my question. By the way, if you searched all my posts, did you answer any of them?
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Looks like you posted your questions in Q&A global.
Try posting in general or Q&A for your device itself. Very few people post in general Q&A, but you should get an answer in the device area.
Remember though that your post won't be guaranteed to get an immediate reply, and nobody is obliged to answer anything.
Searching here might help, as will reading all the stickies in the device forum.
Also remember not everyone doesn't have the device you have, so bear that in mind given where you posted.
I'm not gonna beat about the bush here...
By the way, if you searched all my posts, did you answer any of them?
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does seem a bit rude to me, being perfectly frank. Remember XDA covers many dozens of devices, and most people only know 1 or 2 that they own.
Most people get "flamed" for posting in the wrong forum. Don't post questions in development, of any shape or form. Development is for those making or developing ROMs. If you stick to this, and post in your device's Q&A or general forum, you might have more luck.

FWIW you don't really sound like someone who wants to join a community, you just sound like some dude who wants someone to help them. Which is ok, but sometimes you have to be patient.

moonpiedave said:
I can't be bothered to learn about the community or where to even post, But I expect everyone to jump to and respond to my questions, or I'll accuse everyone of being rude, Cause everyone should immediately drop what they are doing and respond to my problems that I admit I know the answer to IN MY OWN POST. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844908 (halfway through when I say that I got my answer already on cyanogen) Can I get some cheese with my whine please?
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You answer yor own question and then have a meltdown over no one answering you? go get help.

We have a saying on my country:
"cada quien habla de como le va en la feria"
Means that each person speaks about their own personal experience, which in all cases is not same as anybody else.
I have found an immense great friendly community here @XDA, yes! we are both talking about the same place!, I´m sorry to hear your bad experience here on your very short life.
As in any country, class room, world, group you´ll find nice and not nice members, you just have to select with which ones you have stuff in common and fell ok with them and avoid does who not.
I invite you to be an active long time member and I am sure with some time your thinking will change
Hope to have this conversation in a couple of years and both laughing about this thread

orb3000 said:
We have a saying on my country:
"cada quien habla de como le va en la feria"
Means that each person speaks about their own personal experience, which in all cases is not same as anybody else.
I have found an immense great friendly community here @XDA, yes! we are both talking about the same place!, I´m sorry to hear your bad experience here on your very short life.
As in any country, class room, world, group you´ll find nice and not nice members, you just have to select with which ones you have stuff in common and fell ok with them and avoid does who not.
I invite you to be an active long time member and I am sure with some time your thinking will change
Hope to have this conversation in a couple of years and both laughing about this thread
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Well put Orb

For me, the only negative about being here has been the scamming and fraudulent stuff going on within the Marketplace

qipengart said:
For me, the only negative about being here has been the scamming and fraudulent stuff going on within the Marketplace
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That's true, but the community itself cannot be judged on the basis of these jerks.
I haven't been here for that long and people have treated me with respect. I'm no noob to this stuff, but I can say that there are a lot of things I don't know. Even in the ROM threads with hundreds (sometimes thousands) of pages of rapid-fire posting, I still have people answer my question without calling me a "noob" or "newfag".
I'm a moderator on another fairly [but not THIS] large forum and, while I like to think that we are another go-to site for what we deal with, it's not as respectful or decent as XDA is. Senior members always flame new members, even if they answer their questions. Here, there a TON of active members whereas on other forums people join then leave out of frustration because everyone wants to be a jerk.
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I treat everyone here with respect, and I'm sure many other members do to, Although if they are being talked to in a rude fashion I'm sure they won't be happy to respond. If you find a reply which is in anyway offensive or rude, perhaps use the report button.

Guyz..He'z a newbie over here...Let him spend some time,become a senior member and then ask him to return here...I am sure the perspective with which he views at XDA now will change after he spends a considerable amount of time...Its all about experience and respect...Give respect,take respect..And remember,Read Forum Rules!!!Trying to give rules a priority

moonpiedave said:
I appreciate your reply. The main reason you didn't find any rude responses is because there were no responses period. I'm not trying to find a magic "lemme learn" button but what good is it to post questions if nobody answers? I searched the threads before I posted and didn't find the answer to my question. By the way, if you searched all my posts, did you answer any of them?
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It's the same deal on most forums... Users are expected to search for threads relating to their questions. If someone creates an account and is too lazy to search and read a lot, i puts people off... Why? Because there are already probably 5 threads covering every subject you could think of. It really clutters up the forum and makes it harder to find legit answers when you are searching for one.
I'm not saying that there aren't dicks on this forum, because I'm sure there are, but I haven't really run across anyone that was over the line... I mean, this is the internet where anyone can be a bad ass. I've seen way worse on other forums. Check out some of the iphone forums and you will see lots of ****ty replies.
If you get a reply, "Use the search" they aren't really being a ****. They are trying to keep the forums clean.
Bottom line, don't sweat it, this is the internet. One thing to learn about forums on the web is that you can't actually get pissed at someone on the internet. They don't know you and you don't know them. It's a completely different experience than the real world. Just be happy there is a resource like XDA on the web to help you nerd out on your sweet phone. And read a lot, because the information is probably already here.
Once you have done your reading and you still haven't found your issue, then post. No one is going to call you out if the answer isn't on this forum... And if by chance you missed a thread and someone does, let them know you read and didn't find it, then brush it off.
In regards to not getting answers to your questions, well, it happens. Everyone doesn't have time to answer everyone's inquiries, so you have to be real patient. It also doesn't hurt to do a google search because XDA isn't the only place on the web to find answers.
It also helps to post in the correct forum. Best way to do this is to find your phone in the search at the top and then search the forum specific to your phone. That's where people that know about your phone reside and where you will most likely get a reply.

qipengart said:
For me, the only negative about being here has been the scamming and fraudulent stuff going on within the Marketplace
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Woah.. really? Example please for future reference... I hope I haven't ran into any of that

Product F(RED) said:
That's true, but the community itself cannot be judged on the basis of these jerks.
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Come and get it.
People are quite polite here, but thee is one thing. World hates to answer already answered questions. Sometimes we see 3-4 people asking the same question. You know, we answer once, twice... on the third time someone says "Use search " or something like that.
Good idea is to scout the forum for 3-4 days, to see what is going on, what has been already done and what is certainly not being mentioned. And yes, search is your friend.

I have been here a while (though with not many posts under my belt) and I do not really see many rude posts nor a anti-noob atmosphere.
I hate to admit that this, but I take more from XDA than I leave.
Dan

moonpiedave said:
"Welcome to xda-developers
...the largest Internet community of smartphone enthusiasts and developers for the Android and Windows Mobile platforms. Visit the world famous XDA Forums or continue to browse our portal."
The above is copied directly from the xda home page. There are several words in there that misled me. "Welcome", "community", and "enthusiasts". I took those words to mean that any and all comments and questions would be welcome and answered by those who had more information than the "noobs" of which I am one. Unfortunately, I have found that not to be the case. I have posted several questions and the only answer I have gotten was less than friendly. I'm aware that IF anyone reads this, it will be dismissed as whining, or possibly removed by the xda people. I have read lots of unfriendly replies to questions by people who are trying to learn about their phones, whether it's basic features or more advanced development. Apparently, the people who know how to root, flash ROMs, overclock, and so on, have either forgotten or don't care that at one time, they didn't know anything either. Some of them probably figured it out for themselves, and some of them got help from others. But now that they are no longer noobs, they are condescending and sometimes downright rude to the new noobs. I was hoping to learn some things, possibly make some connections, and share the things I learn with the people who are just starting out. It looks like I'm going to have to figure this stuff out on my own. When I do, rather than be rude and dismissive, I will make every effort to help others and share what I've learned. But it will have to be somewhere other than xda because that doesn't happen much around here.
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It is just funny that somebody would come in here and say this with just 8 posts. Also, his first post was on Nov 15th and then he posted the above on Nov 19th so he had a total of 5 days of XDA and he is bashing it??? Not cool.

OP around and online but not a single reply from him...

I have received help here at XDA, cannot compare to any other forums that I know of. You need to go to the right places and read stickies and google before you ask, that's how I don't look like a noob... my secret is out, darn!

We could help keep things clutter free!

I have been around here for a little while. Not doing a lot of posting... But doing a LOT of reading. I have learned a BUNCH from the great Devs and others that post helpful ideas and solutions.
AND... I have read a ***LOT *** of worthless stuff. Come on folks... let's try and help each other out here. I think that if we used a little COMMON SENSE... ( I know, it isn't very common ) we could get rid of so much clutter and wasted thread space!
Why in the world do we need to read things like this in a thread:
"GREAT! I am going to dl and flash this tomorrow!" So what!! Why do we know that you are flashing it tomorrow? This helps the Dev or others HOW? Flash it, test it and THEN come back and give good feedback! You want to say THANKS to the DEV?? Hit the THANKS button!
YAY!!! You actually took up a post on the thread saying THIS?? It just doesn't need any more comment.
"Flashing now. It sucks that 'xxx' doesn't work....." Again... do yo think that this is in anyway HELPFUL??
"Looks great" Yes, we can all see that. Hit the THANKS button and save some space.
"Downloading now! I'm actually really excited to test this out." I am so proud! How about telling us about it AFTER you dl it and test it out? I am pretty sure that nobody needs to know that you are GOING to dl it.
I was just looking at one popular thread... The first page had TWO posts on it that were actually RELEVANT to the thread! That was the OP and one at the bottom that had feedback. And it just got WORSE as you went to pages 2 through 4! It is no wonder a Noob doesn't want to read through a thread and gather information. You have to wade through 8 pages of garbage posts in order to get 1 page of good information.
I know we all want to look cool and have posts in these great threads. But come on..... let's try and help each other out here. You have your 10 posts and can post in the Dev section. No need to "fluff" anymore. You made it.
Yep, it does look so cool to have your name ( handle ) show up in the "cool threads". We are all very impressed. ( ok... so I am laughing at this )
One problem I see is it is the biggest "fluff posters" that jump on the Noob that asks a question that was asked 10 pages back. That is because the Noob got tired of reading page after page of useless "OH MAN! This looks SICK" posts!
That is what the "THANKS" button is for! Say thanks and save space! USE IT!
Please, please, please... give us ALL a break. Keep your ego in check. Getting a really high post count isn't nearly as cool as having a high thanks meter.
OK.. off my soapbox. Now, let's see how many posts say "+1" or something like that and whether or not people use the THANKS button.
See ya'
OotR

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This site is a global all age community. We have a dev section that is thoroughly groomed by the mods.
What you see as useless spam I see,as general marketing for our og evos. I'll give you an example:
Person makes a topic bragging about flashing a new Rom, I see that as curiosity look into something new for our og phones.
They have a off topic thread as well.
I think this site is very good and very active.. Being strict or formal just makes me feel like I'm at work and not enjoying this great phone.. If we were strict, would that topic about ropodope being unbanned ever exist? Even this thread you made? The freedom is great I hope it never changes.
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I can agree with that, but only so much. There is a lot of useless stuff that gets posted, and there isn't anything that is more pointless than a "kool, gnna flash this tmrrw" post.
I do agree with the OP, but after countless threads like this - aimed at "bettering" the forum, or not wasting space - it just doesn't seem to help. I get the idea, but at this point it's just "normal." Like it or not. I'm just used to scrolling past it all. Like those posts that are asking the same damn thing page after page. Used to have the desire to respond to those, but not anymore.

thlinx said:
This site is a global all age community. We have a dev section that is thoroughly groomed by the mods.
What you see as useless spam I see,as general marketing for our og evos. I'll give you an example:
Person makes a topic bragging about flashing a new Rom, I see that as curiosity look into something new for our og phones.
They have a off topic thread as well.
I think this site is very good and very active.. Being strict or formal just makes me feel like I'm at work and not enjoying this great phone.. If we were strict, would that topic about ropodope being unbanned ever exist? Even this thread you made? The freedom is great I hope it never changes.
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I am not speaking about a new thread. I am speaking about all the "fluff" posts in a Devs thread about their new ROM. For example, please go and read the first three pages of the CM9 thread that was started here yesterday. Just look at the first page of posts. Only one of them has actually flashed the ROM and is making any comment ABOUT that ROM. They are just taking up space. Unfortunately, this continues on and on in the thread. So instead of coming in after a week and reading eight to ten pages of information, you will have to wade through 40 to 50 pages of "fluff" in order to garner any information.
I don't have a problem with someone feeding their egos by starting a new thread about all the exciting stuff they have done with a ROM. It is great marketing for our Evos. But trashing someone elses thread with worthless stuff isn't the same.
See ya'
OotR

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Yep... it is. Maybe, just maybe... some one will listen to it and we can clean things up.
See ya'
OotR

One can only hope.
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I am not speaking about a new thread. I am speaking about all the "fluff" posts in a Devs thread about their new ROM. For example, please go and read the first three pages of the CM9 thread that was started here yesterday. Just look at the first page of posts. Only one of them has actually flashed the ROM and is making any comment ABOUT that ROM. They are just taking up space. Unfortunately, this continues on and on in the thread. So instead of coming in after a week and reading eight to ten pages of information, you will have to wade through 40 to 50 pages of "fluff" in order to garner any information.
I don't have a problem with someone feeding their egos by starting a new thread about all the exciting stuff they have done with a ROM. It is great marketing for our Evos. But trashing someone elses thread with worthless stuff isn't the same.
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Mods do clean up the threads with useless spam especially the dev category. If it gets too off topic Mods clean it or close it

OneoftheRabble said:
I have been around here for a little while. Not doing a lot of posting... But doing a LOT of reading. I have learned a BUNCH from the great Devs and others that post helpful ideas and solutions.
AND... I have read a ***LOT *** of worthless stuff. Come on folks... let's try and help each other out here. I think that if we used a little COMMON SENSE... ( I know, it isn't very common ) we could get rid of so much clutter and wasted thread space!
Why in the world do we need to read things like this in a thread:
"GREAT! I am going to dl and flash this tomorrow!" So what!! Why do we know that you are flashing it tomorrow? This helps the Dev or others HOW? Flash it, test it and THEN come back and give good feedback! You want to say THANKS to the DEV?? Hit the THANKS button!
YAY!!! You actually took up a post on the thread saying THIS?? It just doesn't need any more comment.
"Flashing now. It sucks that 'xxx' doesn't work....." Again... do yo think that this is in anyway HELPFUL??
"Looks great" Yes, we can all see that. Hit the THANKS button and save some space.
"Downloading now! I'm actually really excited to test this out." I am so proud! How about telling us about it AFTER you dl it and test it out? I am pretty sure that nobody needs to know that you are GOING to dl it.
I was just looking at one popular thread... The first page had TWO posts on it that were actually RELEVANT to the thread! That was the OP and one at the bottom that had feedback. And it just got WORSE as you went to pages 2 through 4! It is no wonder a Noob doesn't want to read through a thread and gather information. You have to wade through 8 pages of garbage posts in order to get 1 page of good information.
I know we all want to look cool and have posts in these great threads. But come on..... let's try and help each other out here. You have your 10 posts and can post in the Dev section. No need to "fluff" anymore. You made it.
Yep, it does look so cool to have your name ( handle ) show up in the "cool threads". We are all very impressed. ( ok... so I am laughing at this )
One problem I see is it is the biggest "fluff posters" that jump on the Noob that asks a question that was asked 10 pages back. That is because the Noob got tired of reading page after page of useless "OH MAN! This looks SICK" posts!
That is what the "THANKS" button is for! Say thanks and save space! USE IT!
Please, please, please... give us ALL a break. Keep your ego in check. Getting a really high post count isn't nearly as cool as having a high thanks meter.
OK.. off my soapbox. Now, let's see how many posts say "+1" or something like that and whether or not people use the THANKS button.
See ya'
OotR
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Communist. K, joking aside..If you don't have the time to skim through a few pages, then use google. Most people post irrelevant information just to keep the thread bumped to the top page. It isn't cz they want to look cool. If you want to look cool on a mobile tech site then you are completely oblivious of the life outside the internet. Sure some threads are poorly managed. But that is because mods can't patrol each forum and each post by every member. Ive seen a thread or two about reducing clutter, none prevailed cz it just isn't worth listening too. Overall I agree with you but Google it if you have question. If not, suck it up and read. Worst thing that can happen is a broken phone. Boo hoo, you didn't read.
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Why do I think that you completely missed the point. But that is OK. Everyone has their days.
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OneoftheRabble said:
Why do I think that you completely missed the point. But that is OK. Everyone has their days.
See ya'
OotR
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Believe me, I got the point. Just felt like being an ass since my herb diminished. Just one of those days like you said
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I have been rolling through the threads cleaning house

A random rant regarding search before ask

Sometimes I cannot understand people in any forums. Sure, we all should search first before create another thread. If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up. More people tell search before ask and the original poster stating reasons why he/she couldn't bloating the thread all the time.
I didn't ask any questions and got offended by some one. I am ranting as I always see numerous people always tell any thread starters regarding this.
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People like to act as if they're in charge? No clue lol

Hawon said:
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If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
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Apparently not, because a few minutes later someone starts another new thread with another previously answered question.
Hawon said:
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up.
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Probably to hit the point home.
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Why not just answer the question, true story I went and searched for drivers and stuff my girlfriends touchpad, and the two first search results were topics that only included with a “go search" reply
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And yet you created a meaningless thread that is adding bloat to the nexus forum. The pot calling the kettle black?
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Hawon said:
Sometimes I cannot understand people in any forums. Sure, we all should search first before create another thread. If someone asks a question that already been asked, Isn't it enough for one person to mention search before ask?
Not pointing a finger at anyone, but I cannot understand why multiple people in a thread always have to bring it up. More people tell search before ask and the original poster stating reasons why he/she couldn't bloating the thread all the time.
I didn't ask any questions and got offended by some one. I am ranting as I always see numerous people always tell any thread starters regarding this.
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at a certain future point, all questions would have been already asked, and every new thread thats started is already duplicated. in that case, all we would have here would be just people searching, and no real time one-on-one help. when this happens, xda will no longer have xda forums, all xda will have is xda frequently asked questions :silly:

There are plenty of threads about this already. Next time search before you post.
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The problem is many people don't have a cpu and rely on their phone to access the forums. Search in Tapatalk is inherently incredibly awful, so some slack should be given at times. That said, if someone has an issue, and has access to a PC, put the phone down :highfive:

What I want to know is, did you search previous rants before posting this one?

adrynalyne said:
What I want to know is, did you search previous rants before posting this one?
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Dont think so.. but can i start one
WHY DO PEOPLE QUOTE THE OP??? Its a given thats who your responding too.. unless of course the OP askes a series of questions
1. what is this
2. how do you do this
3. etc
You get my point !

dr.m0x said:
There are plenty of threads about this already. Next time search before you post.
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brilliant :highfive:

The problem I have with repetitive threads is that often times the question has been fully answered very detailed in a previous thread, and we can't answer it again with such detail and accuracy. So functionally, please refer to the previous thread where the question was answered thoroughly. I can't repeat my answers every time a screen burn in thread is posted. So please see my answer in earlier threads.
We want the community to be helpful and if all screen burn in info stayed in one thread its benefits everyone. Now apply that to most any topic. I just can't repeat my answers each time with the same level of detail and usefulness. Basically, its already been said better, so just refer to that thread.

CMNein said:
The problem is many people don't have a cpu and rely on their phone to access the forums. Search in Tapatalk is inherently incredibly awful, so some slack should be given at times. That said, if someone has an issue, and has access to a PC, put the phone down :highfive:
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So stop using Tapatalk. XDA forums on the Nexus work just fine in a browser. Tapatalk is a terrible application. Don't use terrible applications.

simms22 said:
at a certain future point, all questions would have been already asked, and every new thread thats started is already duplicated. in that case, all we would have here would be just people searching, and no real time one-on-one help. when this happens, xda will no longer have xda forums, all xda will have is xda frequently asked questions :silly:
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i dont think so, there are new devices coming out every month, and new ROMS and firmware updates by Google, so there will always be new developments and questions regarding those

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I think a lot of times people just feel their specific situation is different form others they've found, or they are just very confused and would like a new thread where they can explain their problem and hopefully someone will help them.
That's what I think about support type questions anyway. General knowledge type questions ("WILL WE GET ICS??") do tend to be annoying and could certainly be ignored.
I think if we learned to ignore a lot of those type of questions things would be better. Every type we reply the thread goes right back to the top, getting the attention of someone else who also feels the need to reply with the exact same message as the previous question. A mod could also post a link to the answer and just close the thread.
Other times you find something kind of what you are looking for, but the topic has over 100 pages, it's just honestly too much work trying to go through all of those pages. You read the first couple and then you read the last few and then there is a lot that you could have missed.
Finally a lot of us are just jerks, lets face it if we have the time to complain about someone not searching, we probably have the time to actually guide the person in the right direction. Some of us spend way too much time on these forums complaining about how we don't have time to do this or that.

JaiaV said:
So stop using Tapatalk. XDA forums on the Nexus work just fine in a browser. Tapatalk is a terrible application. Don't use terrible applications.
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I have a weakness for terrible things.
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First of all, I very rarely tend to just say something like "that was posted before, just search". I will usually say something like "if you would have searched, you would have found this link..."
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Other times you find something kind of what you are looking for, but the topic has over 100 pages, it's just honestly too much work trying to go through all of those pages. You read the first couple and then you read the last few and then there is a lot that you could have missed.
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That's all fine. But. There are those of us who actually did go through the entire thread because:
a) we knew that we are not special, and chances are if we were having an issue, someone else probably had it before us and someone posted the solution for it.
b) we are here because we enjoy learning about our devices and our OS's and, given that this is XDA-developers, not XDA-support-my-non-searching-ass, we kinda expect others to do the same.
tsnstuff said:
Finally a lot of us are just jerks, lets face it if we have the time to complain about someone not searching, we probably have the time to actually guide the person in the right direction. Some of us spend way too much time on these forums complaining about how we don't have time to do this or that.
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It's not about not having enough time: it's about coming to the realization that if you can search and post the answer, the person asking the question can easily to the same. It would probably help to phrase a question more like "i was looking for an answer for issue X, and I came up with Y. I am not sure if it fully applies in my situation. Any thoughts?" instead of "I haz issue X. Puuleez help!"

efrant said:
First of all, I very rarely tend to just say something like "that was posted before, just search". I will usually say something like "if you would have searched, you would have found this link..."
That's all fine. But. There are those of us who actually did go through the entire thread because:
a) we knew that we are not special, and chances are if we were having an issue, someone else probably had it before us and someone posted the solution for it.
b) we are here because we enjoy learning about our devices and our OS's and, given that this is XDA-developers, not XDA-support-my-non-searching-ass, we kinda expect others to do the same.
It's not about not having enough time: it's about coming to the realization that if you can search and post the answer, the person asking the question can easily to the same. It would probably help to phrase a question more like "i was looking for an answer for issue X, and I came up with Y. I am not sure if it fully applies in my situation. Any thoughts?" instead of "I haz issue X. Puuleez help!"
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My knowledge of search improved my vocabulary and reading skills.
Thanks XDA!!!:laugh:

IINexusII said:
i dont think so, there are new devices coming out every month, and new ROMS and firmware updates by Google, so there will always be new developments and questions regarding those
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lol, i know. it was just sarcasm. but really, i dont mind the repetitive threads. people are people, some degree of laziness runs in all our genes. anyways, xda search isnt the best to find stuff. but, that said, google search works wonderfully. just about any kind of information can be found using google and the right search terms. personally, id rather find what information i need by myself. unfortunately, there are those people that like being told how and what to do, but its a good thing that a large number of those people use the iphone :victory:

Excuse me while I rant for a second.....

I've been around for a little while. I'm not a Dev, Themer, Moderator, Recognized Contributer or anything like that. At best I'm a tester for a great team called Team Venum.
I love this hobby, XDA, and most guys here. This is a great getaway for me from real life. Ya know......my crappy job, bills, yada yada yada.
Here is the thing. These threads that I read everyday. Something that I've always done and continue to do is ignore the BS. The trolls that come in looking for attention. The noobs that ask questions before reading. The guys that have been around for a while and don't read/research before posting in a thread. I ignore it. Move on.
Let's say a guy comes in your favorite thread and asks a question thats been answered a hundred times. So we then call him a di#k and say why don't you read? He then says the thread is 59 pgs and it's too much. Then he takes offense for being called a di#k and lashes back. Then a cpl other guys join in the flaming. Four pages later we need a Mod to come in and smack our hands with a ruler.
Why not just ignore it? Ignore the trolls. Maybe if we ignore the noobs they will take it upon themselves to read and research and find the answer on their own.
I hate seeing threads closed. Mods having to come in and clean threads. Devs getting pissed and moving somewhere else or just keeping their work to themselves because their sick of the drama.
It just seems so simple to me......The next time you see a post by a troll or someone who doesn't take the time to read and research on there own. Then ask a question in the thread to either provoke or just out of laziness.......... how about we just say this......................
Nothing
FAQ per user request.
1.''Can I respond to the OP and thank him repeatedly?''
I believe so.
2.''Is a full wipe required or can I just dirty flash?''
YEP!!
3. ''Is this a ROM?''
Nope
4.''Is the OP a DEV?''
Not yet.

Well said
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Not everybody knows how disgusted you guys are at every question. Nothing wrong with helping ... most people are new so forgive them. The truth is solutions for problems change very often even within the same thread.
Every rom has unique solutions for the same problems.
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i agree i would much rather give them the awnser then have them start an other thread asking about it and another noob replying with the wrong awnser , lots of updates and its true with all the pages on cirtian threads it makes it verry hard to find a link or wordign that will help in that pirticular situation , myself i would rather respond and help others out , i kno how frusterating it can be to try and do something when there is no awnser to be found even after searching over and over , sometimes just cant locate the information.

ex-28 said:
i agree i would much rather give them the awnser then have them start an other thread asking about it and another noob replying with the wrong awnser , lots of updates and its true with all the pages on cirtian threads it makes it verry hard to find a link or wordign that will help in that pirticular situation , myself i would rather respond and help others out , i kno how frusterating it can be to try and do something when there is no awnser to be found even after searching over and over , sometimes just cant locate the information.
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Please don't get me wrong guys......... I always help when I can, I think I got a pretty decent ''Thank you'' count going. IDK, I'm usually always mobile. I'm just pointing out the frustrating parts of a thread. I would just like to see some guys move on instead of lashing out if there frustrated at seeing a question asked repeatedly.
It just adds to the flaming.

Some of this could be relieved if people actually updated their first post with relevant information.
I did it for my 90+ page Jelly Bean thread and had NONE of this.
Actually, wait, it happened once. I told him the answer and then said "check the first post, mate." Never happened again.

Most problems would be fixed if the free XDA app had a search option. Just saying. Plus the search doesn't work with the browser.
But I do completely get what the OP is saying. But then again patience and understanding also goes a long way.
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Okay I don't normally speak on these types of topics but now I will.
I completely agree and understand. Noobs will be noobs. Heck I am still one.
I started off with a Samsung Infuse, read and read and read and read and READ to learn how to root the dang thing and keep it from bricking. I never flashed something without reading. And I never flashed as soon as something got released!!! Maybe it's just commonsense, or maybe it's the fact that I am intuitive and have been ever since the age of 8 when I built my first PC from scratch. But a lot of it has to do with READING!!! Noobs don't like to READ because they want to know and they want to know NOW. That's the major problem.
I see people saying things about Task and how he is rude. Honestly, I don't think he is because it clearly states in his OP follow the instructions carefully and READ.
Just my $2. I'm not *****in'!

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TKG26 said:
How do i root my GS3?
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I sincerely hope this is a joke.....
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Of course...
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caspersfi said:
I've been around for a little while. I'm not a Dev, Themer, Moderator, Recognized Contributer or anything like that. At best I'm a tester for a great team called Team Venum.
I love this hobby, XDA, and most guys here. This is a great getaway for me from real life. Ya know......my crappy job, bills, yada yada yada.
Here is the thing. These threads that I read everyday. Something that I've always done and continue to do is ignore the BS. The trolls that come in looking for attention. The noobs that ask questions before reading. The guys that have been around for a while and don't read/research before posting in a thread. I ignore it. Move on.
Let's say a guy comes in your favorite thread and asks a question thats been answered a hundred times. So we then call him a di#k and say why don't you read? He then says the thread is 59 pgs and it's too much. Then he takes offense for being called a di#k and lashes back. Then a cpl other guys join in the flaming. Four pages later we need a Mod to come in and smack our hands with a ruler.
Why not just ignore it? Ignore the trolls. Maybe if we ignore the noobs they will take it upon themselves to read and research and find the answer on their own.
I hate seeing threads closed. Mods having to come in and clean threads. Devs getting pissed and moving somewhere else or just keeping their work to themselves because their sick of the drama.
It just seems so simple to me......The next time you see a post by a troll or someone who doesn't take the time to read and research on there own. Then ask a question in the thread to either provoke or just out of laziness just do this......................
Nothing
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Good post caspersfi.
I agree with just about all of it...... but I personally when someone asks a question I just answer in polite words, even if its already posted. Some people just don't get and need to be pretty much spoon fed. I work at a front desk of a pet hospital and I get some pretty dumb questions from the public since its in a Petsmart. They look for you as the experts and as a resource. They same can be looked at like xda. I was raised in a family to help people no matter the situation before yourself. People honestly need to respect each other and flaming other people wouldnt happen.
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caspersfi said:
I've been around for a little while. I'm not a Dev, Themer, Moderator, Recognized Contributer or anything like that. At best I'm a tester for a great team called Team Venum.
I love this hobby, XDA, and most guys here. This is a great getaway for me from real life. Ya know......my crappy job, bills, yada yada yada.
Here is the thing. These threads that I read everyday. Something that I've always done and continue to do is ignore the BS. The trolls that come in looking for attention. The noobs that ask questions before reading. The guys that have been around for a while and don't read/research before posting in a thread. I ignore it. Move on.
Let's say a guy comes in your favorite thread and asks a question thats been answered a hundred times. So we then call him a di#k and say why don't you read? He then says the thread is 59 pgs and it's too much. Then he takes offense for being called a di#k and lashes back. Then a cpl other guys join in the flaming. Four pages later we need a Mod to come in and smack our hands with a ruler.
Why not just ignore it? Ignore the trolls. Maybe if we ignore the noobs they will take it upon themselves to read and research and find the answer on their own.
I hate seeing threads closed. Mods having to come in and clean threads. Devs getting pissed and moving somewhere else or just keeping their work to themselves because their sick of the drama.
It just seems so simple to me......The next time you see a post by a troll or someone who doesn't take the time to read and research on there own. Then ask a question in the thread to either provoke or just out of laziness just do this......................
Nothing
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Don't forget the ghosts to, the ones that just downloads the rom/theme/app/mod and won't even spend a second to click thanks. These devs do this for free and spend tons of time doing it(been there done that). Its not hard really, its the little things that count.

There's also something to be said for not being a condescending, intolerant prick.
But hey, this is the internet, where you can be an absolute asshole and no one can do anything about it, so why not?
I'll gladly take the "lazy noobs" over the self-righteous self-proclaimed geniuses we seem to breed here. At least the people asking the "stupid" questions aren't intentionally doing so to make people feel like crap.
Stay classy, XDA.

Senor Forum said:
There's also something to be said for not being a condescending, intolerant prick.
But hey, this is the internet, where you can be an absolute asshole and no one can do anything about it, so why not?
I'll gladly take the "lazy noobs" over the self-righteous self-proclaimed geniuses we seem to breed here. At least the people asking the "stupid" questions aren't intentionally doing so to make people feel like crap.
Stay classy, XDA.
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Don't be so sure about that. I have recently patented a DEVICE and APPARATUS for PUNCHING PEOPLE over the INTERNET
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reNeglect said:
Don't forget the ghosts to, the ones that just downloads the rom/theme/app/mod and won't even spend a second to click thanks. These devs do this for free and spend tons of time doing it(been there done that). Its not hard really, its the little things that count.
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Well, similarly to open-source software, it's a largely thankless job done for fun, and NOT the expectation of $$$, or accolades...

Exactly this.
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ikjadoon said:
Some of this could be relieved if people actually updated their first post with relevant information.
I did it for my 90+ page Jelly Bean thread and had NONE of this.
Actually, wait, it happened once. I told him the answer and then said "check the first post, mate." Never happened again.
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^ THIS
I really think they should update the first post on a thread, so that a particular question that keep repeatedly asked doesn't need to be asked again. Personally, if I had a question, I check the thread's first page to see if they had some sort of FAQs up there for questions that are FREQUENTLY asked.
If not, I resort to searching. But sometimes, your question is a bit general and you can't find any useful information via search. Even via Google. Sometimes, even if you try to be specific with search, you can't nail down the solution of the problem. Sometimes you just find someone asking the same question and was left unanswered because "this noob didn't do a search. So no we won't answer his question"
But then again, if a question is repeatedly asked, the search should yield a good answer. But there's just those odd moments where search isn't helpful at all and you try asking.
I think it would be best if a) there's a FAQs (I've actually seen a few threads on other sections of XDA with a separate thread for asking questions), or b) just answer the damn question, and remind them to use search or something... Instead of resorting to name calling and flaming.
Sometimes, I just avoid posting on XDA because I feel some people feel they're the elite and that instead of teaching the new people how to learn they just scoff them off telling them to learn on their own. I started XDA years back, and while I mostly did my learning on my own, I had a couple of people help me pointing me to things and all that. But now days, XDA is just full of rowdy people trying to make themselves special.
EDIT: And all of those efforts in flaming could have just been put to good use. So what did you end up accomplishing in name calling and flaming? Nothing.
Which is as much as you could accomplish if you ignored the person and did nothing. So if you ain't helping just ugnore becuase it doesn't accomplish anything to call out someone, call them names, and flame them.

I'll admit to being both a noob and an "a-hole". The first topic I created on XDA was in the the developement forum (check my profile to verify)! Oh boy, did I get whipped for that. I took it like a man, didn't argue and I learned real fast. Even since then, I learned to read, search, do whatever it takes to solve my own issues.
Now the A-hole part of me showed in the Atrix forum. Some guy posted a question which has been posted to the bone a million times and got into an argument with him, telling to search, read, ect. Was it justified? Maybe. Was my argument with him going to stop other noobs from posting repeated questions? No. I don't know on that day, I decided I had enough and beefed with him. Maybe because he didn't put in enough effort look around posting a question when it's been asked a million times. I usually just ignore stuff like that but it really got to me when I saw that question.
We all like to think that our question(s) has never been asked before so we come here and post but that's usually never the case is it? That's just human nature. What's more of a satisifying feeling? Finding your own solution via searching, reading, ect. or asking a question and getting a direct, personal answer? Wait don't answer that.
I compare the forums to a classroom that doesn't has a beginning or an ending semester. Students constantly coming and going while the teacher has to start his lesson over and over and over. Students raising their hands and asking questions about chapter 1 while the students who been there for a while are annoyed because they're on chapter 8.and have to wait for the teacher to stop and answer a previously asked question.
That's the end of my rant. I got my scars from my mistakes. Learn from me. They're not worth showing off.

At the end of the day, who really cares? Someone asked a question, maybe it was answered already, who freakin cares? No one got hurt.
The person asking meant to seek information. The person replying set out to inflame and incite. Who is the real problem?
Do you ever consider the experience a new user has on these forums?
Subjected to elitist snobs and morons who can't wait to bash someone. If they are new, they don't understand. But they will realize just what kind of arrogant, socially inept people some members can be. And quickly.
Nothing says "welcome" like a good, old fashioned condescending person.
If you don't answer people like that in real life, maybe you shouldn't on the internet either.
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I have stopped posting as well from some time, as I get most my answers by just reading OP and other posts. I disagree with OP here to some extent. The main problem is not the noobs but the self proclaimed experts. It take same amount of time and energy to answer someone's question and bashing them. I do agree that if you don't know the answer just ignore them, but saying read read instead of answering them is just starting a new war. When I was in Captivate forums, I knew few people who answered same questions everyday and eventually made a general thread to help new people. Either block noobs from this forum or stop starting these kind of thread to get attention.
I don't think anyone just post a question without researching, as most of the members now know how badly they get bashed for it. So if someone is asking a sincere question, I think they should be answered or ignored. These forums are to help each other learn new things, no one came here as expert (except few).
Whatever happened to that saying: No question is a stupid question...