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Would uaeing the GPS on your phone while on an airplane be illegal? Just to see how fast your going and how high you are?
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atomfix said:
Would uaeing the GPS on your phone while on an airplane be illegal? Just to see how fast your going and how high you are?
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does aeroplane mode switch gps off if it does then probably lol
I think it is illegal, your phone is not allowed to sent or receive any signal during flight.
It is not illegal. Many pilots use GPS.
You are not allowed to use any radio TRANSMITTER while in flight. GPS is only a receiver, so no issues there. A radio receiver cannot in any reasonable way affect aircraft avionics. Most airlines insist you switch off ALL electronics devices when taking off or landing. During cruise, GPS is fine.
The issues you will find however is that civilian GPS maxes out at about 500kph, whereas a cruising airliner goes much faster than that.
Ive tested my desire, and GPS works in airplane mode.
Thanks all. I will try out my GPS on the plane
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lol ive always wondered this...dont want a dam air marshall gunning me down for thinking im bringing down a plane or something lol
Do you think you will get a gps fix?
THe plane will be moving very fast... and as I know if it's moving to fast the cpu wont decode your position in time....
Well try it out and see. But I'm not sure if your phone is designed so that the gps would work at that altitude and velocity.
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Which programme do you want to use to keep track of where you are? because you can't use google maps, since you don't have a data connection. And most navigation programmes only work with roads. Plus (don't know how your flight goes) but most don't have maps of oceans.
I tried my (desire)gps on the plane to Greece, reported about 900km/h and alt 11000m. Not that easy getting a fix though.
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have used the app GPS status. showed 11000metres and 950kph. no problems.
caillyn said:
It is not illegal. Many pilots use GPS.
The issues you will find however is that civilian GPS maxes out at about 500kph, whereas a cruising airliner goes much faster than that.
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mine showed over 950kph without issue. the limits according to the web are 60,000ft (18km) altitude and 515metres per second (1000knots) speed. anything outside these ranges and it stops displaying location data. so it will work fine on any civilian flight. by the way, the restriction is to stop gps guidance data being used on a missile if anyone was wondering.
I will use an app called GPS essentials from the market, unless anyone else knows a better app to use?
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GPS on plane, screenshots...
Here are some screenshots of the GPS on the HTC Desire while taking off....
actually i flew just last month and during the flight either british airways or virgin atlantic stated during the safety announcement that gps devices were also forbidden.
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I will use an app called GPS essentials from the market, unless anyone else knows a better app to use?
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http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.theFoneGroup.GPSLogbooks ?!?
I used GPS on former phone (HTC Touch Pro) during flights. The fix is not a problem and everything worked fine. I used IGO8 to track speed and position and it was funny when it warned me that I exceeded the speed limit in towns (doing 780km/h instead of 50km/h ).
No one actually bothered me when I used it.
There's no reason why it should be illegal but airlines and flying in general has become very edgy. So it is usually specifically forbidden and as such you "could" get in real problems if you disregard that rule, I'm not saying you will but you gotta be careful. I've used gps in a plane too, you only get a fix right near a window but it works really well, it was spot on with speed, altitude and location there's no speed maximum that I know of on gps.
So be careful and when confronted immediately comply with the steward(ess) they don't know all devices and don't care for arguments.
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patasenko said:
actually i flew just last month and during the flight either british airways or virgin atlantic stated during the safety announcement that gps devices were also forbidden.
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I think its because of the new GPS distrupters that you can buy online now :S
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I have used GPS on the planes in Europe for last 5 years, it makes the journey feel shorter as you can see the progress and also spot cities/mountain ranges in distance.
I found that in some aircrafts notably A320 it is nearly impossibled to get a fix while B737 are generally OK. I would put this down to shielding of the cabin rather than some disruptive technlogy used to protect the flight safety.
Same thing actually applies to trains, Google maps works really well there but there is absolutely a zero fix in some more recent ones.
So, for the most part, this phone has done a pretty good job with GPS locks so far. Besides the fact that my accuracy when using Goog Navigation is constantly fluctuating with the ominous blue circle around the car, I have been pleased. Today, though, google maps showed me several hundred miles north of my actual position. I toggled GPS, closed goog maps, and reopened...and same issue. I downloaded GPS toolbox, wiped a-gps cache, restarted goog maps, and the issue was resolved. Fast lock, correct location...however, this DOES give me some cause for concern. Anyone else seem anything similar?
Keep in mind, for the most part, I have been reasonably pleased with the locks. I have only seen this bad of an issue once
I haven't used it that much but on pleased as well. I use to use an apo called gps aids for my original epic. Sorry can't help more but I've only used gps once to make sure I got a lock. See if that apps helps u though.
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This is google maps not the actual phone. Use sprint Telenav and it will lock instantly even while driving at 80 MPH, just did this yesterday!
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I was able to resolve it through GPS Toolbox...but, hopefully this isn't a persistent issue. My EVO 4G was always good for a quick reliable lock
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This is google maps not the actual phone. Use sprint Telenav and it will lock instantly even while driving at 80 MPH, just did this yesterday!
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right, well, to be clear, I have used Google maps at least 10 times already without issue.
adma84 said:
I was able to resolve it through GPS Toolbox...but, hopefully this isn't a persistent issue. My EVO 4G was always good for a quick reliable lock
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Yeah my wife's evo's gps is definitely better. Her gps local instantly. I've compared them using gps status.
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right, well, to be clear, I have used Google maps at least 10 times already without issue.
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I had the same issue is what I was getting at. It only happened 2 days ago, but my Wife has the evo3d so I tried to get gps to work on hers and it was a no go. So I turned on telenav and it worked instantly on both our phones.. not sure what was going on with google maps but we were in the middle of the street with clear skies and it would not lock at all...
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I had the same issue is what I was getting at. It only happened 2 days ago, but my Wife has the evo3d so I tried to get gps to work on hers and it was a no go. So I turned on telenav and it worked instantly on both our phones.. not sure what was going on with google maps but we were in the middle of the street with clear skies and it would not lock at all...
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lol, I think I erased that app as soon as I got the phone. Wonder how to re-download?
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lol, I think I erased that app as soon as I got the phone. Wonder how to re-download?
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It's in the market...
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It's in the market...
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thanks, should have mentioned that I have no phone access while at work. Will check it out later
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It's in the market...
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It also requires a subscription fee after the trial period. No thanks. My Google Nav works just fine.
Not to contradict but telnav basic software is free and does not need a monthly fee. The fee is only for the optional premium purchase which includes lane assist, red light cameras, speed traps, posted speed limits, and commute alerts. None of the premium features I need or want anyway, so the basic free software works for me.
Khilbron said:
It also requires a subscription fee after the trial period. No thanks. My Google Nav works just fine.
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What fee it is free.....
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What fee it is free.....
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Yes its free. There is an optional paid version.
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I had an issue with my gps not wanting to get a lock all day a couple days ago. I downloaded gps test cleared agps and updated it, and still wouldn't work correctly. Then all of a sudden it did work, right before I was going to do a battery pull. I'm not sure what happened.
Today I was navigating somewhere by downtown chicago and my gps all of a sudden started acting goofy and kept rerouting me. I had to take a couple different turns because I was relying on it. I kept testing the gps on my way back home, and noticed that it was off by about one city block, but the big problem was my pointer was off 90 degrees, and that is what created my rerouting confusion. 2 hours later, it seems like its good again.
I'm concerned about this, because when I did need it such as today, it started spazzing out on me. Is there a way to calibrate the compass?
Oh and I cleared agps and updated it again with the gps test, and I think that's what fixed it.
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I had an issue with my gps not wanting to get a lock all day a couple days ago. I downloaded gps test cleared agps and updated it, and still wouldn't work correctly. Then all of a sudden it did work, right before I was going to do a battery pull. I'm not sure what happened.
Today I was navigating somewhere by downtown chicago and my gps all of a sudden started acting goofy and kept rerouting me. I had to take a couple different turns because I was relying on it. I kept testing the gps on my way back home, and noticed that it was off by about one city block, but the big problem was my pointer was off 90 degrees, and that is what created my rerouting confusion. 2 hours later, it seems like its good again.
I'm concerned about this, because when I did need it such as today, it started spazzing out on me. Is there a way to calibrate the compass?
Oh and I cleared agps and updated it again with the gps test, and I think that's what fixed it.
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This is exactly what I saw. It had me in the wrong place and since the heading was wrong, it looked like I was driving offroad in between major roads!
I had another major GPS issue today. It would never get a lock. I toggled GPS on and off, wiped AGPS cache, and nothing. Not for over 10 minutes. I power cycled the phone and this fixed it. I am getting a little concerned...
I haven't been having issues with the GPS really. I have had stronger locks with other phones but this one gets the job done. As for GPS getting crazy, if your in an area like a metro city with tall buildings then any GPS will go crazy. When I drive in Manhattan even my stand alone GPS goes a little crazy in certain areas.
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I haven't been having issues with the GPS really. I have had stronger locks with other phones but this one gets the job done. As for GPS getting crazy, if your in an area like a metro city with tall buildings then any GPS will go crazy. When I drive in Manhattan even my stand alone GPS goes a little crazy in certain areas.
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This is happening to me on I-95 with no trees or buildings around
My gps is acting up again, since yesterday. With the gps test app, it is not locating any satellites, I'm not sure what to do, I still don't think it's a hardware issue though...but I'm not sure
Used navigation for first time today and found it frustrating. First of all I thought GPS was broken as it span "obtaining location" for 5 minutes until I turned on A-GPS and data then it finally got my location, I later turned off A-GPS and data and it kept on working fine with the already pre cached map data.
Later on had same issue, data was on this time but A-GPS was not. It refused to do anything until A-GPS was turned on. Surely this is not intended behaviour? GPS alone should be sufficient with pre cached data.
it is normal. that's why phones have agps. it helps alot. it takes much longer without the assistance.
Why are you messing around with the GPS, works just fine with the default settings. Not a single issue. Locks fast and near instant. Best GPS I've used (Verizon version) which is saying a lot since I use GPS almost everyday and on every phone I've had.
Was there something wrong with your GPS?
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Well, just thought that it would work with GPS solo like normal gps devices do without requiring mast triangulation etc, probably uses less juice as well. Hopefully you can use gps and a-gps without requiring data as long as you have pre cached.
This is the best GPS I've had also, the default settings are perfectly fine
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Fatila said:
Well, just thought that it would work with GPS solo like normal gps devices do without requiring mast triangulation etc, probably uses less juice as well. Hopefully you can use gps and a-gps without requiring data as long as you have pre cached.
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it will work solo, but if you have assisted turned off, you have to download the gps almanac via gps signal, this takes a long time, but once you have it, everything should work fine. its just to get you homed in initially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_signals
takes 12 minutes to download the almanac
there is NO reason to ever turn off a-gps. makes no sense why you would do that. it uses almost no power and is pretty damn accurate, and as you know how (and know why) turning it off makes it take lot longer to find you.
neok44 said:
there is NO reason to ever turn off a-gps. makes no sense why you would do that. it uses almost no power and is pretty damn accurate, and as you know how (and know why) turning it off makes it take lot longer to find you.
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A-GPS is absolute garbage.
It's accurate to within like 2000 meters on a mobile network.
For apps that just need your general locale - it's fine, but for using it for navigation/direction - you have to turn it off so it doesn't give you bogus directions because it thinks you're 5 blocks west of where you're actually at.
How do you make sure aGPS is enabled?
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How do you make sure aGPS is enabled?
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Yeah, how do you turn on or off the a-gps?
wonshikee said:
A-GPS is absolute garbage.
It's accurate to within like 2000 meters on a mobile network.
For apps that just need your general locale - it's fine, but for using it for navigation/direction - you have to turn it off so it doesn't give you bogus directions because it thinks you're 5 blocks west of where you're actually at.
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This is incorrect.
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wonshikee said:
A-GPS is absolute garbage.
It's accurate to within like 2000 meters on a mobile network.
For apps that just need your general locale - it's fine, but for using it for navigation/direction - you have to turn it off so it doesn't give you bogus directions because it thinks you're 5 blocks west of where you're actually at.
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No reason to turn it off though. It can only help to get your location narrowed down.
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Yeah, how do you turn on or off the a-gps?
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Just go into your GPS settings and untick use wireless networks.
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This is incorrect.
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No its not....and it is one of the issues that most phones with weak GPS suffer from....the wireless triangulation is garbage. If your device only supports AGPS (older crap phones) then maybe.....I NEVER use wireless assistance on my phone locks in two seconds and tracking is as good as Garmin. Only payoff you may get from AGPS is it tight areas with limited sight of birds....like 1st floor apt. In NYC.
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This is incorrect.
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This is correct. Agps helps narrow down where you might be much quicker and hands that off to gps so you get more accuracy. We should be. Grateful that gps is competent in this phone, especially because it is samsung. If yours is consistently wack. Then. You probably have. Defect unit.
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aGPS
Wow, there seems to be an awful lot of confusion about what aGPS actually is.
First, aGPS will NOT affect your accuracy in any way.
Here is how things work in a non-aGPS way. In order for GPS to work the receiver has to know where all the satellites will be at any point in time. This is achieved using a series of starting points and equations that describe each satellite's orbit. The orbits vary enough over time that this data, called the "Almanac" is only accurate for a short period of time. The almanac is constantly being updated on the satellites and they, in turn, are constantly broadcasting the almanac back down to the gps receivers. This automatic broadcast is done at a very low bit rate, so it takes about 12 minutes for a satellite to send the almanac data. The receiver has to wait for a new almanac broadcast to start before it can begin saving locally (it can't start saving in the middle), it takes a while for a new session to start over. Your gps must wait until it has at least 3 satellites locked, and a current version of the almanac before it can give your location.
All that aGPS does is download the almanac over the data connection. It allows you to get the almanac data faster, but in no way does it actually affect the accuracy or function of the GPS. The data connection plays absolutly no part in determining your location.
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No its not....and it is one of the issues that most phones with weak GPS suffer from....the wireless triangulation is garbage. If your device only supports AGPS (older crap phones) then maybe.....I NEVER use wireless assistance on my phone locks in two seconds and tracking is as good as Garmin. Only payoff you may get from AGPS is it tight areas with limited sight of birds....like 1st floor apt. In NYC.
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Do not listen to this person as they do not understand what agps is or what it does.
Instead, listen to this person
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Wow, there seems to be an awful lot of confusion about what aGPS actually is.
First, aGPS will NOT affect your accuracy in any way.
Here is how things work in a non-aGPS way. In order for GPS to work the receiver has to know where all the satellites will be at any point in time. This is achieved using a series of starting points and equations that describe each satellite's orbit. The orbits vary enough over time that this data, called the "Almanac" is only accurate for a short period of time. The almanac is constantly being updated on the satellites and they, in turn, are constantly broadcasting the almanac back down to the gps receivers. This automatic broadcast is done at a very low bit rate, so it takes about 12 minutes for a satellite to send the almanac data. The receiver has to wait for a new almanac broadcast to start before it can begin saving locally (it can't start saving in the middle), it takes a while for a new session to start over. Your gps must wait until it has at least 3 satellites locked, and a current version of the almanac before it can give your location.
All that aGPS does is download the almanac over the data connection. It allows you to get the almanac data faster, but in no way does it actually affect the accuracy or function of the GPS. The data connection plays absolutly no part in determining your location.
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Do not listen to this person as they do not understand what agps is or what it does.
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Do not assume that I don't know what it is or what it does....the argument is whether or not it works as planned you moron. I could totally tell you in one second the post your sucking up to is pretty much hijacked right out of Wikipedia. Don't transfer your stupidity to me. I had the crappiest of all GPS phones when I had my Captivate....I have spent more time reading about GPS then I would ever care too. I had a pretty reasonable experience with that phone after making some Pool changes and UNTICKING USE WIRELESS NETWORKS. sorry my loosely worded post was hard for you to understand....I will be clearer next time.
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Do not assume that I don't know what it is or what it does....the argument is whether or not it works as planned you moron. I could totally tell you in one second the post your sucking up to is pretty much hijacked right out of Wikipedia. Don't transfer your stupidity to me. I had the crappiest of all GPS phones when I had my Captivate....I have spent more time reading about GPS then I would ever care too. I had a pretty reasonable experience with that phone after making some Pool changes and UNTICKING USE WIRELESS NETWORKS. sorry my loosely worded post was hard for you to understand....I will be clearer next time.
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Sorry to inform you, but I didn't look at Wikipedia at all when I wrote that. Many years ago I worked for a company called "Spirent Communications" that created GPS testing equipment. That job required some pretty low level technical knowledge of how GPS works.
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Do not assume that I don't know what it is or what it does....the argument is whether or not it works as planned you moron. I could totally tell you in one second the post your sucking up to is pretty much hijacked right out of Wikipedia. Don't transfer your stupidity to me. I had the crappiest of all GPS phones when I had my Captivate....I have spent more time reading about GPS then I would ever care too. I had a pretty reasonable experience with that phone after making some Pool changes and UNTICKING USE WIRELESS NETWORKS. sorry my loosely worded post was hard for you to understand....I will be clearer next time.
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booooooo.
Currently traveling at the moment, wish I could do more research.
So my GPS always locks in less than 5 seconds, and about 15 seconds indoors when I'm in Norcal. My GPS can't seem to get a lock now that I'm in Socal. The bars just stays gray in GPS test.
Could someone tell me what's going on?
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Something is obviously going on. Its not working for me in Austin Texas
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SoCal here and having GPS problems
Chicago here and same issues
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OK. I thought it was me. My GPS just stopped working tonight. Must be a state lite issue.
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Not really working in Houston Texas either. Sort of glad this isn't just me. What I did find that helps is if you go into airplane mode with gps on, it will lock on to your location after about 30 seconds, it's not a desirable solution, but it's better than the alternative.
Hmm, to everyone that's having GPS issues, when did it start happening? Are we all having the same problem where it sees the satellites, but doesn't get a lock? What do you see when you open GPS test? Mine will find 7+ satellites, but the bars stay gray and doesn't lock.
My GF's SGS2 locks immediately.
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Hmm, to everyone that's having GPS issues, when did it start happening? Are we all having the same problem where it sees the satellites, but doesn't get a lock? What do you see when you open GPS test? Mine will find 7+ satellites, but the bars stay gray and doesn't lock.
My GF's SGS2 locks immediately.
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Same here. It will see 6-7 satellites but no lock.
fwiw working fine in NSW Australia
Solar flare maybe? I had no satellites locking at all earlier. About half of them are locking now for me in New Zealand.
I had slower than usual GPS last night but still locked on, who knows.
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Over the years ive owned and used several blackberrys iphones and androids and I have never had the gps work as well as it does on the note 2. I mean I get a lock within seconds even when im indoors which has never happened for me before
How would I go about determining what is different about my note 2 from my other phones so as to preserve the settings and apply them when I find it not working as well?
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Really? Are you using the Rogers I317M? I don't even get *any* GPS fix at all...
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Really? Are you using the Rogers I317M? I don't even get *any* GPS fix at all...
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I have the telus i317m but man I am just floored with how fast it connects in the past ive had to restart th3 phones before even getting a gps lock which would still usually take another 10 mins.
Are you on a custom rom or stock?
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I got a Rogers Note 2 and it connects very quickly as well. Correct me if im wrong but the galaxy line of phones i below actually have a real gps receiver built in that works with gps satellites where other phonea like iphones and blackberries use the wireless signal (data) to detect gps position.
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I agree with the OP. GPS issues with the original Note was the single biggest reason I wanted to upgrade, but it also made me hesitant. GPS was terrible on the original Note (at least for me). I always had to end up downloading some third party app that was supposed to help the GPS lock quicker. It worked sometimes, but other times it didn't do much. *Knock on wood* seems like the GPS issues has been fixed on the Note II. I always get an almost instant connection. Very happy about that, as I use navigation a lot when I travel about.
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I got a Rogers Note 2 and it connects very quickly as well. Correct me if im wrong but the galaxy line of phones i below actually have a real gps receiver built in that works with gps satellites where other phonea like iphones and blackberries use the wireless signal (data) to detect gps position.
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That may be the case for some of the older phones but I know for a fact that the phones I had had a built in gps receiver. I suppose they just had software or hardware issues which prevented them from locking quickly? Trying to figure out exactly what it is now so I can hopefully keep it going for this note II and potentially help those who can't get a quick lock.
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I attempted to use Google nav today and felt that there was a bit of lag between me turning and the app updating with the next instruction. It took a good 10 seconds for the final address to appear as I turned onto the last street near my destination. Perhaps it's a fault of the app and not GPS tracking.