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Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.

^^^what he said^^^^ +1

Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread

Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.

I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button

even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree

kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...

What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.

as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.

pina_ said:
Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?

I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!

macacao said:
Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.

I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.

I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..

I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] [Help]My Desire Hd Can't root by visionary+

I bought a Desire HD from H.K. The rom is RUU_Ace_HTC_Asia_WWE_1.32.707.6.
I tried to cook the rom become Taiwanese rom step by step.
Using visionary to temproot ===>prmeroot===> s-off
Everything is fine.
However,I cook the wrong rom RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3.
I think it becomes UK rom.
Now, I want to do the same step to cook my DHD to be Taiwanese rom again but it doesn't work.
When I use Visionary to do temproot, it takes too long time.
The screen comes black and hard to use.
I did't Visionary several times, however it still doesn't work.
Can any one help me. please.

So I guess your phone is 1.72 firmware now?
Bad luck you can't root it.

Yes, I am 1.72 now.
so, Does it mean there are no way to root now?

There are no way to root now. U must wait for the solution.

It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.

I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?

daysonp said:
I can imagine what a disaster it is to overlook this.
So if they officially release the android 2.2.1 update for my region and I update to it, it will also update the software to the 1.72 ROM.
Does this mean I will not be able to root (and therefore flash) to other ROM until someone here figures out a way to break it?
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When it comes do not install it. Better to use a custom rom which is based off of it. Such as the one in my sig. Then you get the best of both worlds - rooted Android 2.2.1.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD

liam08 said:
It bewilders me how people manage to read the threads on how to root their phones, but never manage with the threads that tell them not to flash the 1.72 ROM's. I fail to understand how they miss the various threads.
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Yep, I thank I didn't do much homework so I got my bad luck.
I just wonder if someone can help me to fix this trouble.
Maybe this is a chance to help me improve my English.
haha..

got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?

daysonp said:
got it! but is it worth upgrading to the 2.2.1 update? Any performance gains? I'm not sure about what rom should I be on for fastest speed, stability with the sense ui?
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Difficult to say....it should have some better performance and the camera should work a bit better.
however, in my case, when recording in HD I still have some lags sometimes (although they seem to be less in both length and frequency).
As far as normal performance, I was running a OC kernel which I cannot use now anymore, so performance will not be noticeably better (might even be a bit less).
as Dr.m0x said: get a custom rom with 1.72 integrated...works fine and you keep root

Any news? Or nothing yet ? So no rooted phone for those who updated 2.2.1...

I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.

[email protected] said:
I have had rooted phone with stock ROM and when appeared some update of OS, I installed it and then I found out, that rooting no longer works I must now only wait.
Has any from cooked ROMs better camera software? The stock camera app is OK, but I am missing possibility to set JPEG compression, which is in my oppinion too high and destroyes fine details in each picture.
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It has been possible to downgrade your firmware and then gain root for a week now. There is a sticky topic in the development section.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.

And is there any way to backup my unrooted phone?

As far as I know there is not a way to do a full backup when the phone is unrooted. I fell for 1.72. Luckily I already did a titanium backup not long prior. The instructions given on the developers area of the forum are good though. The process does work.

[Q] anyway to reverse the overclocking procedure to original on the desire hd?

just wanted to no if i cud reverse the overclocking procedure on my desire hd?
i've gotten it overclocked to 1.49ghz but was wondering bout it having conflict with new official updates from htc coz i've downloaded the recent update from htc (improves system performance and camera feature enhancements) but it wouldnt install...im guessing it has somethin to do with da overclock...i have a feeling it'll be da same issue wen the official 2.3 gingerbread comes out on the desire hd

jmc86 said:
just wanted to no if i cud reverse the overclocking procedure on my desire hd?
i've gotten it overclocked to 1.49ghz but was wondering bout it having conflict with new official updates from htc coz i've downloaded the recent update from htc (improves system performance and camera feature enhancements) but it wouldnt install...im guessing it has somethin to do with da overclock...i have a feeling it'll be da same issue wen the official 2.3 gingerbread comes out on the desire hd
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Hey, until and unless you flash the original ruu from HTC you can´t update the updates HTC release. You are overclocked so you are rooted.
So if you want updates from HTC, you have to flash back the original RUU or re-download any uninstalled apps so that the checksum match...

I wouldn't worry about missing out on official Gingerbread, we'll all be running unofficial Ice cream (or whatever they decide to call it) by the time that rolls around

sphuyal said:
Hey, until and unless you flash the original ruu from HTC you can´t update the updates HTC release. You are overclocked so you are rooted.
So if you want updates from HTC, you have to flash back the original RUU or re-download any uninstalled apps so that the checksum match...
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where can i get the original ruu? and how do i flash it?

jmc86 said:
where can i get the original ruu? and how do i flash it?
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Here Just run it while your phone is connected with cable to windows box
regards

thanks mate i'll check it out

thanks mate its working...just wondering wat country is this version originally from?

Guide to GB ROMS?

Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it

Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details

pablo_max said:
I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.

pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom

Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.

Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.

My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..

Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.

[Q] Assitance very much appreciated.

Hi.
As much as I really like the xda forums, I am having real trouble searching for my answer. Maybe I am thinking illogically!
I am in U.K. on Vodafone.
My CID is VODAP001
Android version 4.0.4
HTC Sense version 4.1
I have installed Android Revolution HD 9.4.1
If relevant, my HTC SDK API level is 4.23
In a nutshell, I am hoping to install JB update - either the official Vodafone one, or possibly Revolution (if I can figure out if that is fully functional for my device).
I hoped that Vodafone would have released the OTA update before now. But I don't know if my install of Revo is stopping my device from automatically looking for updates.
I thought I would be able to go to settings/about/software and search for updates, but that option doesn't seem to be available (is Revolution switching this feature off?)
So:
Is it worth me trying to roll back to stock, and manually check for updates periodically?
(If so, please could someone point me to a recent no brainer post on how to do this?)
Or:
Does the latest JB release of Revolution work with my model/network?
(If so, do I need to roll back to stock and start from scratch, or can I "update" my current version.
Whilst I am not totally noob to all this, I do find it slightly daunting, and I can't always tell which threads are the most relevant or up to date, so please excuse me if my questions are obvious to you. I just find that after a while on XDA I have loads of tabs and it all gets a bit backwardy and forwardy!
Many thanks in advance.

Breaders said:
Hi.
As much as I really like the xda forums, I am having real trouble searching for my answer. Maybe I am thinking illogically!
I am in U.K. on Vodafone.
My CID is VODAP001
Android version 4.0.4
HTC Sense version 4.1
I have installed Android Revolution HD 9.4.1
If relevant, my HTC SDK API level is 4.23
In a nutshell, I am hoping to install JB update - either the official Vodafone one, or possibly Revolution (if I can figure out if that is fully functional for my device).
I hoped that Vodafone would have released the OTA update before now. But I don't know if my install of Revo is stopping my device from automatically looking for updates.
I thought I would be able to go to settings/about/software and search for updates, but that option doesn't seem to be available (is Revolution switching this feature off?)
So:
Is it worth me trying to roll back to stock, and manually check for updates periodically?
(If so, please could someone point me to a recent no brainer post on how to do this?)
Or:
Does the latest JB release of Revolution work with my model/network?
(If so, do I need to roll back to stock and start from scratch, or can I "update" my current version.
Whilst I am not totally noob to all this, I do find it slightly daunting, and I can't always tell which threads are the most relevant or up to date, so please excuse me if my questions are obvious to you. I just find that after a while on XDA I have loads of tabs and it all gets a bit backwardy and forwardy!
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi,
Your CID has not yet received the official HTC jellybean update. This means that you will NOT be able to get an update from vodafone and also you wont be able to flash Android revollution HD 17.0 (Jellybean).
You will have to wait for HTC to roll out the official JB update for your device.
And none of the custom ROMS (including ARHD 17.0) support OTA update feature. You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.

anks257 said:
Hi,
Your CID has not yet received the official HTC jellybean update. This means that you will NOT be able to get an update from vodafone and also you wont be able to flash Android revollution HD 17.0 (Jellybean).
You will have to wait for HTC to roll out the official JB update for your device.
And none of the custom ROMS (including ARHD 17.0) support OTA update feature. You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.
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You can update your device OTA ONLY and ONLY if you are on stock ROM, stock recovery and stock kernel.
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Unless it's a future Revolution (or similar) release?

Breaders said:
Unless it's a future Revolution (or similar) release?
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There are custom ROMs that support OTA, but ARHD is not one.