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HTC Sense on TP2 Android ?

Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's

The sense builds were abandoned, they were an atrocity to use.
But, they can be found on Reef's web page... I don't think they've had any work done on them recently - you can certainly upgrade the zImage/modules, rootfs etc but the system image won't be up-to-date...

demendil said:
Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's
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I have installed "ProjectAndroid2.1Sense.061610" on my tp2. I then copied "zImage", "startup.txt" and "Modules-2.6.27.46-01149..." from the 30/08/10 release into my "ProjectAndroid2.1Sense.061610" "andboot" folder, having deleted the original "zImage", "startup.txt" and "Modules-2.6.27.46-01149..." files from "andboot".
In the end I have sense 2.1 running, with wifi, radio (network) and sound of course. The "startup.txt" from the 30/08/10 release has overclock, so it is not too bad for speed.
So, in a way, yes you can.
CREDITS: To someone somewhere on the forum who gave these tips, can't remember who.

Only the 'blazn' builds have an overclock statement in the startup.txt...

ive wonder the the samething know i know thanx

arrrghhh said:
Only the 'blazn' builds have an overclock statement in the startup.txt...
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That is the correct one. Thanks, I was writing everything from memory, and no doubt, couldn't remember every detail, however, everything else is as should be.

YOSEFE said:
That is the correct one. Thanks, I was writing everything from memory, and no doubt, couldn't remember every detail, however, everything else is as should be.
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The rest of it looks pretty accurate

This project was abandoned for this device but not for the other phones ie. topaz, hd,etc..If you want to update your system image, just replace the old one with the new one that you will find all the updates on here

demendil said:
Hello Everyone,
First, sorry for my english cause i'm french
I've got a simple question: is it possible to have HTC sense (as on the desire) with Android (XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo FRX01 Final 2.2)
Thank's
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i got a simple answer.. find me a 2.2 froyo with sense that was made for a msm7k device and ill make it happen. So far Hero, Eris and Legend dont seem to have a 2.2 with sense so we cant modify it to run on the tp2.
The desire, incredible and other qsd devices have different libs we cant run those. So we must have one of the devices above (msm7k) for this to happen.
We could always try to use 2.1 libs but thats just barbarism and asking for a really unstable system.

[ACL] said:
i got a simple answer.. find me a 2.2 froyo with sense that was made for a msm7k device and ill make it happen. So far Hero, Eris and Legend dont seem to have a 2.2 with sense so we cant modify it to run on the tp2.
The desire, incredible and other qsd devices have different libs we cant run those. So we must have one of the devices above (msm7k) for this to happen.
We could always try to use 2.1 libs but thats just barbarism and asking for a really unstable system.
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What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/

manekineko said:
What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/
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Good spot out maybe the different resolution wont be a problem

manekineko said:
What about an HTC Wildfire? That's an msm7k device with Sense, and it's got an update to 2.2 Froyo:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/02/htc-wildfire-gets-android-froyo-2-2-update/
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its actually msm7225 but its worth a try..
now i need a deodexed rom and i'll make it my *****..

I don't know much about the programming side of roms and such (I know enough to break things). But maybe the Sprint HTC Evo base system?

metalfreak said:
I don't know much about the programming side of roms and such (I know enough to break things). But maybe the Sprint HTC Evo base system?
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did you ignore what i said earlier? we need a msm7k device not qsd.

i still dont have it booting.. hopefully a few more hours will do.

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i still dont have it booting.. hopefully a few more hours will do.
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great cant wait!!

sorry guys.. looks like the version that is out is some chinese release. Not even the Legend guys can get it working so its going to be harder for us. I'll wait till the official 2.2 is out for the wildpoop

I have got myself sense & froyo builds. Now I want sense with froyo improvements like speed wifi etc..can anyone suggest me how to do that?

?? where did you get a sense + froyo build that would run on the tp2?

Has'nt HTC Wildfire got it's official Froyo 2.2 update? If not can't we use one build from the HTC Wildfire froums?

[Q] stock desire update? 2.13.707.1?

has anyone got this?
when i check on my fone it says no updates
any info on the change log?

From the HTC website:
HTC said:
Update: Android 2.2 and HTC Sense update.
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So, potentially this could be the update to bring Sense in-line with the HD interface? (Just hypothesising, I have no evidence!)
I haven't got this update showing on my phone either. (Yet! ;-) )
EDIT: Just noticed that that info is only on the South-East Asia version of HTC.com, so it could be a local firmware variation (I hope not!).

http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
No new Sense, just stock FroYo update
What software version are you on now?

EddyOS said:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
No new Sense, just stock FroYo update
What software version are you on now?
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hi there
whats the differences?if any
im on 2.09.405.8 CL218634 release-keys

You're unbranded so you can't use that anyway. There'd be no differences, though - it's just released later than your one (although there is now 2.10.405.2 and 2.29.405.2)
Did you debrand your Desire or has it always been on that version?

always been like that
i updated to froyo using the update.zip method a few months ago
okay so theres nothing new in this update

Get this one then as well...
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_releaseol2djq7rqarka2ka.zip
It's not that there's nothing new per se, it's just not relevent to your unit - you can only update to x.xx.405.x

I wish there were proper changelogs so we can see a reason to upgrade or not sometimes

Well, 2.29.405.2 has the RIL update to work with the radio I'm guessing. It's a very solid ROM and I'm happy with it at present

[Q] HTC Sense 2.0 and Stock rom 2.10.405

You know what would be cool?
It would be cool if you could extract sense 2.0 somehow and then build a rooted desire stock rom with that version or just a normal rom with a desire base kernel.
So us Desire owners could get our own desire build with sense 2.0 instead of the original sense 1.0
I know about the desire hd roms but thats not what i mean. I tried that.
they are fast but battery hungry. Im waiting patiently for a better build of a desire hd rom. but for now im just using the stock 2.29 rom because that ruu works. Im not using it because of the battery usage. :/
Anyway. Does someknow know where i can get the official stock rom 2.10.405 to my htc desire?
i have a ruu one already but it fails all the time while trying to install. The error 140 i think is a bootloader error.
and my desire isnt branded. Its a Normal HTC phone without a carrier.

Get 2.29.405.2 (the latest) from my signature and flash that if you want to go back to stock

Not cool. It would take hundreds of patches to make new Sense run on old framework and lib base. So either you use SenseHD, either you use old base. No other way
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Okay.
Well actually i want to get the latest sense 2.0 to my desire running without using much battery so fast.
its not quite useful as the phone will be a dead phone in the day because of battery consumption.
Thats why im asking. maybe flashing another kernel while running sense hd rom would solve the problem?. I wonder if it does. .
At the moment im running stock rom 2.29

EddyOS said:
Get 2.29.405.2 (the latest) from my signature and flash that if you want to go back to stock
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Eddy this time u lost the last RUU
Here the last ruu 2.29.405.5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869048

Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire

Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?

Probably. HTC has stated that Desire will get GB in 2011q2, also confirmed by some carriers like 3 UK.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
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852456 said:
Here you have a list of phones that will get GB:
-desire (april, may)
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en&key=t1gsJlzHwHI5ixGSYajoiCA&hl=en
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Thanks M8.....Nice Info
Hope this will solve my Bootloop issue.....

pranavd1980 said:
Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.

rabeel said:
There is a leaked Gingerbread for Desire already in market.
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any chance of pointing me in teh direction of said RUU?
Cheers

No RUU available, only leaked test ROM - try Leedroid 3.0.7 0 that's based on it.

Try RcmixS 2.0. Its GB Sense 2.1+3.0 from Sensation Rom
But there´s no GB RUU for Desire yet.

HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."

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HTC Desire [UPDATED 6/14/11]: After promising an Android 2.3 upgrade for its HTC Desire handset, HTC said in mid-June that it had determined the phone would not be able to handle the Gingerbread software along with its integrated Sense UI. In a statement posted to Facebook, HTC said it's "been forced to accept there isn’t enough memory to allow [it] both to bring Gingerbread and keep the HTC Sense experience on the HTC Desire." HTC went on to say it was "sincerely sorry for the disappointment." British carrier Three had previously indicated the software would be ready to roll out to the Desire by the end of May. The carrier later said HTC hadn't "been able to meet the late May timings that were set."
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Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"

pranavd1980 said:
Will there be an Official Gingerbread RUU for Desire in future for unrooted phones?
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Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php

aaa said:
Short translation: HTC said, "if you want to have Gingerbread Sense, buy our new product lines for example Sensation!"
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HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...

Elim said:
HTC Nederlands announced that you have to use a custom ROM when you will have Sense and Gingerbread
And another phone is stuck in an old android version because of the manufacturer interface. I love Sense but the simplest solution could be:
- the ROM contains only android
- an extra app which install the interface
but then the interface is now longer an argument to but a device from this manufacturer because you can then install it everywhere. Then only the hardware counts...
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1.
I know I am running InsertCoin 1.0.8 CM7 and have not used any original RUU since a long time but not providing the official ROM and relying fully to custom ROMs is wrong.
Not everyone can/wanna root their devices because they are afraid to loose the warranty by doing so or simply because they do not have enough basic knowledge to do it.
Not all Desire owners are all computer freaks like most of the people here in the forum (including me), some are simply complete illiterate about computer.
Even, I have thought about loosing the warranty over, over and over until I decided to root my Desire and to flash a custom ROM before I got the flashing addiction.
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Not supporting old devices with updates is acceptable but Desire is not that old. The device has to be older than 2 years before stopping any update.

Stop, htc never say, that they stop the support or never an update for the desire will come.
Only, an upgrade(!) to gingerbread is not possible.

Looks like they've retracted the statement and the HTC will be getting Gingerbread, with Sense though?
techmagister.com/2011/06/15/desire-will-get-gingerbread-htc-uk-changed-their-words-again

I think what they'll do is keep the old version of sense. I would not be willing to give up any more space on my desire, it has barely enough room for all the apps I want, so they won't update sense.

pranavd1980 said:
Bad News for all who are waiting for official update for Desire (Count Me too )
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php
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Woohoooooo....Its Coming Now....
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_takes_its_words_back_gingerbread_for_the_desire_is_a_go_-news-2781.php

[Q] benefits of updating to android 2.3 on HTC desire

Hello every one
I have a HTC Desire, I have goggled about the new update to android 2.3 and I found a lot of people getting very angry about the delaying of this update
I am just wondering ....about the benefits of this update and the differences that it will bring to the phone?
And also for the rooted phone can I update using the normal way?
(i.e setting>about phone>System software update) I heard that this way will make me lose my root or may break my phone.
Or is it better to wait for the custom room? does it deference from the original update? and which is better?
Sorry for the many Question as I am new in this stuff

ahmadsaid84 said:
And also for the rooted phone can I update using the normal way?
(i.e setting>about phone>System software update) I heard that this way will make me lose my root or may break my phone.
Or is it better to wait for the custom room? does it deference from the original update? and which is better?
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You can't update rooted phone OTA (System software update),
but I think custom ROMs will be still ahead (e.g. with Sense 2.1/3.0 stuff), even if HTC releases 2.3

some bugfixes for a start.
they say that GB is faster than FroYo too.
but they finally fixed the mail app for a start so it will set up with hotmail EAS which is nice.

And they fix bug in google calendar,contacts and picasa they found out on froyo and other versions of android except GB, that some informations are send through wi-fi un-encripted and that brings user in danger.

Thermaltake868 said:
And they fix bug in google calendar,contacts and picasa they found out on froyo and other version of android except GB, that some informations are send through wi-fi un-encripted and that brings user in danger.
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open wifi only or something wasnt it?

http://www.dcellphoneshop.com/android/google-confirms-android-2-2-and-earlier-fault.html

But the main downside is crappy battery. Well thats for my phone
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Battery life is much improved with 2.3 for me anyway.
When the phone is idle it doesn't use as much power as Froyo did.
To be honest, if you're happy enough to root I would just go ahead and try a 2.3 rom. LeeDroid is super stable.
Not only that but midmost of the popular roms will get updates regularly and have great support.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

4rm45 said:
You can't update rooted phone OTA (System software update),
but I think custom ROMs will be still ahead (e.g. with Sense 2.1/3.0 stuff), even if HTC releases 2.3
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But if I install the new custom ROMs 2.3. Does this mean that I am running Android 2.3 ?
i.e if some application required android vesrion 2.3, can I run this application on this custom ROMs or not ?

"But if I install the new custom ROMs 2.3. Does this mean that I am running Android 2.3 ?"
Yes!
"i.e if some application required android vesrion 2.3, can I run this application on this custom ROMs or not ? "
Yes... U can.

Jakedude2011 said:
"But if I install the new custom ROMs 2.3. Does this mean that I am running Android 2.3 ?"
Yes!
"i.e if some application required android vesrion 2.3, can I run this application on this custom ROMs or not ? "
Yes... U can.
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Yeeeeeeeha thanks that is good
I guess I shall wait for the custom rom 2.3 then

There's already a load of custom 2.3 ROMs, I'm using one right now!

EddyOS said:
There's already a load of custom 2.3 ROMs, I'm using one right now!
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Is it good and stable ? Where can I find a good one ?

ahmadsaid84 said:
Is it good and stable ? Where can I find a good one ?
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In the dev section. The majority are very stable
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

4rm45 said:
You can't update rooted phone OTA (System software update), (...)
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One can update a rooted phone with an ota (over the air) update, but one will loose root excess.

I hope I'd get mobile data working again. It freezes all the time when dropping from H to 3G. upload arrow just freezes on and radio doesn't respond for a while.
This appeared after previous smaller update during winter.