Have had my new Sprint TP2 for a couple of weeks now, really enjoying it. First "smartphone" for me, figured it's time to join the 21st century.
Biggest issue so far:
When putting the phone into a holster, it comes out of sleep mode (display comes on) - no, I'm not hitting the Power key when I do this. Something here doesnt seem right, but that's what happens...
At that point, on occasion the Dial key may get hit while in the holster (I can understand this, it's a hardware key) - which if the key kets tagged 2x while out of sleep-mode does a pocket dial to the last number called/received.
My original fix to this was to enable the password lock. While a PITA to unlock the phone every time, I'd rather do that than pocket dial. HOWEVER, when running an output only app (such as Google Maps or Navigation) the phone keeps going into lock mode and asking for the password - NOT a good situation while driving down the road...
So my question(s) are:
1. Is there a way to keep the phone from exiting sleep mode while entering a holster?
2. Is there a way to keep the phone from locking up and requesting a password during apps such as Navigation?
(I found this thread while searching, but still un-answered... [Thread 614599; vBulletin wont let me post the URL...)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Jim
This is a completely stock phone, no mods (so far...) other than a couple of applications added (Google Mobile apps, WSOP Poker).
The first question I have for you. Is the case/holder specific to HTC TP2 or is it generic and originally designed for a blackberry?
I ask this because no matter what blackberry case i've ever tried, they always bring my phone out of sleep mode. The reason is the magnet in the case that is designed to put the BB INTO sleep mode.
The case is specific for the Sprint TP2, from ThinkTouchPro2.com. It's the [HTC Touch Pro 2 Naztech Kaskade Vertical Pouch Case - Black], since I still cant post a url... well, I guess I can fake one:
thinktouchpro2.com/htc-touch-pro-2-cases-7462.html
It's definitely the magnet that's doing the trick. The phone comes out of sleep mode just as it starts to go into the case, so it's not a function of hitting any buttons.
Somehow I got into the habit of hitting the power button to put it to sleep before going into the holster, SOOOO thinking maybe it's a 2-way deal I tried leaving the phone awake and putting into the holster - no dice, still awake.
Test 2 was to put the phone into the holster, and then force to sleep. Removing it wakes the phone up, that I'm cool with. But I'm still left with the issue of pocket dialing whenever I use the holster...
Maybe the best solution would be to go to a non-magnetic holster?
Jim
that would be it.
The device uses a magnetic switch to tell it when you slide the keyboard out. So by pulling the device in/out of the case the magnet is triggering the switch leading the device to think you've slid out the keyboard and it should wake up.
I think Advanced config has an option to disable the device from waking up when the keyboard is slid open.
Actually I believe it's the magnet on the stylus, it doesn't have anything to do with the sliding function.
There was a solution for this somewhere around the forums.
If I'm not mistaken, removing the "wake up when keyboard is out" setting, solved the problem with cases that have a magnet.
j0shtalgia said:
Actually I believe it's the magnet on the stylus, it doesn't have anything to do with the sliding function.
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my laptop uses a magnet to secure the screen when i close it and if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
dont think the stylus magnet would cause it because the stylus is still in the device and the magnet is securing it in. I think it has another sensor in the stylus slot and just uses the magnet to suck it in because on older devices (wizard) the stylus would go loose, but then again those devices didn't wake when the stylus was removed.
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my laptop uses a magnet to secure the screen when i close it and if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
dont think the stylus magnet would cause it because the stylus is still in the device and the magnet is securing it in. I think it has another sensor in the stylus slot and just uses the magnet to suck it in because on older devices (wizard) the stylus would go loose, but then again those devices didn't wake when the stylus was removed.
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Ah, I see. Interesting!
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... if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
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BINGO, think we're onto it as I've seen this behavior as well.
I've poked around looking for this, but the closest I've found is the "Keyboard Sliding Sound", but there's not an option to kill the wake-up function. Can someone point me in the direction of the "Advanced Config"?
Jim
So why not use pocket sheild? It has a 15 sec timer on it, so if you put it in your holster and it "wakes up", after 15 seconds it will turn the phone off again if there isn't any action done on it. Use it to only turn on with the light sensor when you pull it out of you pocket or a finger swipe from top to bottom. Also, you can tell it what apps that it cannot go into sleep mode on.
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So why not use pocket sheild?
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That's actually on my list of apps to take a look at, but for a different reason. I'd still like it to not come on at all, as the pocket dial I made was well w/in the 15s timeout for PS.
Ok, so the search originally didnt work for me because I didnt realize it was the magnet causing the wake-up. Knowing that now, I found the registry change I need to make in another thread.
Now for the total noob quesion:
How do I get into the registry to edit it?
I gather Total Commander is the popular tool of choice, and now have that installed. But my searches keep coming up with various tweaks to MAKE in the registry, but not how to GET TO it. I was unable to find this in the TC docs, either...
Thanks for the patient assistance to a WM noob.
(tho I'm a .Net programmer, so not a complete ijit - unless you want to hold being a .Net programmer against me, which I really couldnt blame you for - but it beats the heck outta COBOL...)
Jim
PHM Registry Editor. I would have posted a link but I don't have enough posts to do so!! Just google it and it should come up I got mine off of freewareppc com
Pocket Sheild will not let anything happen what so ever. Unless you physically make it happen, it will do nothing but sit there at the unlock screen waiting for input. If nothing happens, the screen will go back into sleep mode. Check the website out, that should help you make your decision easier. You can change the timer to be 10 seconds as well but I think that is about as close as you can get beside turning the phone off!!
SailCO26 said:
Have had my new Sprint TP2 for a couple of weeks now, really enjoying it. First "smartphone" for me, figured it's time to join the 21st century.
Biggest issue so far:
When putting the phone into a holster, it comes out of sleep mode (display comes on) - no, I'm not hitting the Power key when I do this. Something here doesnt seem right, but that's what happens...
At that point, on occasion the Dial key may get hit while in the holster (I can understand this, it's a hardware key) - which if the key kets tagged 2x while out of sleep-mode does a pocket dial to the last number called/received.
My original fix to this was to enable the password lock. While a PITA to unlock the phone every time, I'd rather do that than pocket dial. HOWEVER, when running an output only app (such as Google Maps or Navigation) the phone keeps going into lock mode and asking for the password - NOT a good situation while driving down the road...
So my question(s) are:
1. Is there a way to keep the phone from exiting sleep mode while entering a holster?
2. Is there a way to keep the phone from locking up and requesting a password during apps such as Navigation?
(I found this thread while searching, but still un-answered... [Thread 614599; vBulletin wont let me post the URL...)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Jim
This is a completely stock phone, no mods (so far...) other than a couple of applications added (Google Mobile apps, WSOP Poker).
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I think this is what you need:
1) this is a magnet holster issue -- FIX: from wmexpert touch-pro-2-tip-fix-cases-magnets-issue-registry-fix *attached Cab
2) To stop certain apps from locking automatically I use S2U2 *zip attached (Slide to Unlock) there is a list of applications that you can set not to lock when active. I use this for GPS navigation for example. showthread.php?t=527523
You can set a password with this or not as you wish. You'll like it.
Keep in mind that the one sideeffect of the magnet fix is that the phone will not automatically unlock on opening the keyboard. You have to hit the power button. Personally I don't have any problem with this.
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Pocket Sheild will not let anything happen what so ever. Unless you physically make it happen, it will do nothing but sit there at the unlock screen waiting for input. If nothing happens, the screen will go back into sleep mode. Check the website out, that should help you make your decision easier. You can change the timer to be 10 seconds as well but I think that is about as close as you can get beside turning the phone off!!
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well he is making it physically happen, but unintentionally. The magnet in the holster is waking the device up by making it think the keyboard has slid open, then the call button is being pressed against the case causing the device to place a call.
as i stated earlier, its best to disable wake-up when keyboard is slid out which is provided in a cab in the post right before this one.
Thanks aj and fwp, I think I've got it now.
Backed into a copy of the PHM RegEdit, and the slide fix worked great! No worries about the kb not waking the phone up, never used that function anyway.
Re the S2U2 app and preventing lock during some apps, does PocketShield also do this - or would I need to run both to keep GPS apps alive?
Thanks again!
Jim
fone_fanatic said:
well he is making it physically happen, but unintentionally. The magnet in the holster is waking the device up by making it think the keyboard has slid open, then the call button is being pressed against the case causing the device to place a call.
as i stated earlier, its best to disable wake-up when keyboard is slid out which is provided in a cab in the post right before this one.
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I get that, and if the cab fixes the issue, thats great. What I was saying was that pocket sheild will not unlock at all, be it the keyboard slid open or the stylus came out, unless you program it to do so. I just tried to make it unlock by sliding the keyboard open and the only thing it did was go into landscape, still locked tho.
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I get that, and if the cab fixes the issue, thats great. What I was saying was that pocket sheild will not unlock at all, be it the keyboard slid open or the stylus came out, unless you program it to do so. I just tried to make it unlock by sliding the keyboard open and the only thing it did was go into landscape, still locked tho.
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ahh ok, not familiar with that app and thought you were saying that it would wait for an input (i.e. buttons pressed) for a set time, and if nothing happened then it would lock the device after a set time period.
SailCO26 said:
Thanks aj and fwp, I think I've got it now.
Backed into a copy of the PHM RegEdit, and the slide fix worked great! No worries about the kb not waking the phone up, never used that function anyway.
Re the S2U2 app and preventing lock during some apps, does PocketShield also do this - or would I need to run both to keep GPS apps alive?
Thanks again!
Jim
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PS does do that (preventing lock during some apps) You just have to tell it when you are in the settings.
Thanks for all the great info! Have the phone "safe" now, but will be looking into PocketShield as the next app.
Jim
Hi,
Anyone know how to turn this auto-rotate screen?
I cannot see it happening, for example on the default web browser.
I turn and turn, but it does not go to landscape for example.
In the Settings -> Sound & Display -> I enabled the screen orientation already.
try calibrating the g sensor. somewhere in settings
Done. I have done it many times ...
It is being charged now, does this affect the accelerometer?
DAMN!
I did not know that the auto-rotate ONLY WORK ONE WAY!
The buttons must be in the right-side ....
It does not work if the buttons in the left side
*LOL*
I disabled the auto-rotate. Is it still possible to rotate on-screen keyboard to landscape manually while typing SMS etc? Thank you..
gogol said:
DAMN!
I did not know that the auto-rotate ONLY WORK ONE WAY!
The buttons must be in the right-side ....
It does not work if the buttons in the left side
*LOL*
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yes, it's a design flaw. For me the volume should be up at the top. I keep hitting the volume when holding the device at Landscape.
The following problem occurs only when i'm using non-sense ROM's.
The auto rotate feature is always on!
The lock screen, home screen, the phone screen etc etc always rotates. Even when I set it not to rotate on the home screen, it rotates!
The option for 0 degree, 90 degree all work fine. The sensors are also OK.
When i completely turn off the auto rotate it stops all right but it is not a solution as all apps like the gallery for instance also stops.
Currently I'm using BlackIce 1.25. This also occurs on Cyanogen, Oxygen (basically all Non-Sense roms)
MIUI and Sense dont seen to give me this issue.
Any ideas? Sorry if this has been posted before. If so please point me to the link before showering me with your blessings (read abuses)
Edit: I should tell you guys that i also have a problem regarding the phone call going to speaker phone automatically! Might be that the 2 of them are connected... any ideas please!
no one?? please... some one!!!
dhussa said:
no one?? please... some one!!!
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This is the way CM roms are made to work. Auto rotate is supposed to work as one setting across the whole system. Sense stops it from doing it in Sense apps.
I think I know what you mean, could you explain better to make sure it's also my issue?
I've had weirdness where I could tell cm that I want 0, 90, 180, and 270 to be available for screen rotation, while having auto rotation set to off.
The screen would rotate regardless of my selection, unless I unselected 90, 180 and 270...
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zelendel said:
This is the way CM roms are made to work. Auto rotate is supposed to work as one setting across the whole system. Sense stops it from doing it in Sense apps.
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so the setting in adw launcher of the home screen orientation is over-ridden by the cyanogen mod setting???
any way i can change this maybe? it gets kind of irritating when the lock screen and home screen rotate when i expect them not to.
dhussa said:
so the setting in adw launcher of the home screen orientation is over-ridden by the cyanogen mod setting???
any way i can change this maybe? it gets kind of irritating when the lock screen and home screen rotate when i expect them not to.
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zelendel said:
This is the way CM roms are made to work. Auto rotate is supposed to work as one setting across the whole system. Sense stops it from doing it in Sense apps.
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found out what the problem was... my calls went to speaker automatically.. my auto rotate didnt work properly.. screen kept on lighting up after every few minutes... all hell broke loose...
Also, the earphones (stock) gave a kind of a current whenever in a call/playing music!!
Gave my phone a few days of rest.. then changed my usb cable... got one that doesn't move.. as in the slot is of a perfect size so that my port and the connectors dont move...
Problem solved.. my phone works like a brand new one! (well better coz it's rooted.. ) no issues whatsoever!
This may be a known issue, but I've found nothing through searching the forum or Google.
Running GedeROM, and everything works perfectly. Netflix plays well, but won't go full screen. When it first starts, the soft buttons are visible, as always. A few seconds in, the buttons hide, but netflix does not resize to fill the screen, so I have a half inch border around whatever is playing.
This is not a big deal but, with a seven inch screen, I'd like to be able to use as much of the screen as possible.
Is anyone else having this problem, and is there a known fix or different ROM recommendation?
Thanks in advance!
If your having the problem of netflix only being in portrait mode try toggling the screen rotation back and forth this should allow it to rotate to landscape mode sometimes it gets a little sticky also make sure you have 180 degree rotation enabled.
Thanks, but that's not the problem. Switching from protrait to landscape IS sticky, but does work
Netflix firsts starts filling MOST of the screen, except for the bottom half inch with the Back, Home and Multitask switcher buttons visible. After 3 seconds, these buttons shrink off the screen but the picture doesn't expand to fill the space vacated by the disappearance of the soft buttons.
Works fine on the phone and other devices...
Oh, I should mention that my other devices are running variants of Gingerbread, and in one case Froyo. This may be a function of ICS.
Being that gedeRom has true fullscreen maybe there is a feature that you don't have enabled auto hide or something of that nature maybe someone would know better than I cause I don't run gede have but not presently
Have you tried holding the power button a few seconds and then choosing to hide the status bar?
Do you have auto hide enabled under system in the settings menu?
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Thanks, Desanko. Turns out I'm an idiot. Problem solved!
I always seems to be rotating and un-rotating my screen to get it to turn the way I want it to.
I had trouble with the Note1 with this and thought/hoped this new "smart rotation" camera checking you face position thing would help and I don't really think it helps at all.
It makes me especially nuts when I have my note 2 in Landscape mode in a holder in the car and my GPS software is shown the wrong way ...
I have also noticed that when using multiview that it gets more confusing.
Is this just more or are others not thrilled?
I would love to have a way to have a single button to make it rotate on demand and one then.
(NOT the don't rotate option that exists )
am I missing something basic?
THanks
Allen
I think its just the size of the phone, you try hold it and do stuff in one hand as you're used to, but because you have to hold it weird to get anything done, it rotates when you dont want it to. Only thing you can really do is disable autorotate. It would be good if you could adjust the threshold when to rotate, but of course on the other side of it, people will then say its too slow etc
Can't say this has been an issue for me. Seems to usually be in the correct orientation for what I want.
el_roy1985 said:
Can't say this has been an issue for me. Seems to usually be in the correct orientation for what I want.
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IT will be interesting ot hear if I am the only one who sees thins as a problem or if lots of people have issues
akrasna said:
IT will be interesting ot hear if I am the only one who sees thins as a problem or if lots of people have issues
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I know exactly what you mean. That's why I use display orientator. It places an rotate icon anywhere on your screen. So when you hold the phone in landscape. press the icon. and it stays locked in landscape.
When you're done in landscape, and hold your phone in portrait. press the rotate icon again, and it now returns to portrait.
perfect for me. No more flip floping rotating screen unless I want it to rotate.
el_roy1985 said:
Can't say this has been an issue for me. Seems to usually be in the correct orientation for what I want.
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+1 never had an issue. As suggested there will be an app for that.
snoopycr said:
That's why I use display orientator. . No more flip floping rotating screen unless I want it to rotate.
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Thanks - Display Orientator seems to be somewhat helpful.
He anyone seen thgouh any value added in this "smart rotate" in terms of using the camera to see where your face is? I have not found it helpful
I only ever had problems when changing between apps. I turned off the face checking orientation but it didn't conserve any more battery. On stock rom.
Nuts? Like hell, like Woods, like Savimbi. Seriously. I wondered no one had this issue unit I saw this topic. And that Smart Stay is a gimmick I think, I've no idea what it does basically!
I'll try that orientator app. Thanks.
Swyped from my GT-N7100
I don't use Smart Rotate but I do find the phone way too sensitive at turning to landscape. Sometimes the phone is only barely tipped towards that way when placing it down and it rotates.
Any way to adjust at what angle it turns?