I want an SBC kernel for MikG. What do I flash? I know I cant use the AOSP kernels like Tiamat, and Toasty says for froyo only, so...
Netarchy's kernels would work great, but could potentially mess up the camera (not permanently, just while using the kernel)
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There is no custom kernel for Mik 1.01 or any of the Ginger/Sense ROM's yet, I'm don't believe
There isn't because source code isn't released yet, however, you can flash older kernels but it may make things like camera not work properly. But weigh your preferences... camera or longer battery life with SBC? I'd rather have better battery life
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Does anybody know if there are plans to release this source code, and if so, when it might be? Or is that all up in the air at this point...?
I too was thinking about sbc if I switched over to "MikG v1.03" because with decks rom and tiamat along with the vipermod script I no longer even think about the battery it easily holds up all day with normal use, I see for the MikG rom there's a suggestion this kernel [Kernel] - 2.6.35.10-htc-kernal_and18-2 - from the OTA will also work.
Anyone have experiance with how the phones holding up with that combination?
I'm 12 hours 40 mins on battery with 24% left and I used my phone a lot today.
That's the stock kernel that comes with the OTA.
If you're used to SBC, like I am, you'll be missing it. Remember when your Evo was stock?? It's not that bad, but the immediate 5-10% drop is back.
The drain isn't terrible, but it's not good, either.
Yea that sbc is something else, some mornings when I've unplugged my phone but not used it much its still at 100% a half hour later and at noon it might say 96% which is just crazy compared to stock.
Ok thanks for the info on the kernel... I may give it a try but I sure don't want to go back to carrying two batteries around that was ridiculous...
Even with an extended, I still carry 2 around, but then I live in the land of Tornadoes and drive a 20 yr old car.....
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I need my battery to last a full day with medium use. What is the best ROM/Kernel combination I should use?
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel.
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I use Fresh 3.2 w/ netarch's Kernel w/ full 60fps unlock. I used my phone all day and still had 30% by 9pm starting 11am. Facetubing, gtalk, voice calls, internet, rss, time checking.
I've flashed a kernel before, but never knew if I was underclocked/overclocked. I flashed King 7 or whatever.
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i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
Could I use the BSK #6 with Fresh?
Ok I went to the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
And the link for Kernel 6 is not there, only 1-5
Dude, it might be the booze talking, but you got this thread on lock down. I couldn't have said it better than myself, what other dev has both a sick ROM and a sick Kernel like its nothing? I am still surprised dudes leaked his stuff because he gave all that stuff up no questions. And that is saying a lot because other dev's have better rom's with stock kernels. but the combo's and choices hero comes out with is what makes android android
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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You can underclock the kernel included in Fresh. And I do not see a point in OCing for 12%. The 1Ghz is plenty.
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i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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I downloaded Backed snacks, but there is no link for the kernel #6
Where do you download the Kernel #6 I can only download up to 5 as well.
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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Umm sorry my cm6 battery life is great I get avg 22-25 hours per charge with medium use far more than I have gotten with any sense rom besides baked snacks. Om testing the new flipz rom for a few days since i hear great things about the kernal
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In my opinion:
If you do not need 4G, CyanogenMod v6 with Snap kernel v7.5 would be your best bet.
If you do need or want 4G, Fresh EVO v3.2.0.0 would be your best bet.
Of all the sense roms i've tried, baked snacked seemed to have the best battery life of them all even beating out fresh 3.2 imo
Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
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Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
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Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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So Baked Snack Roms Nd Kernals Are the best battery life? I switched from his baked snacks 1.2.15 because it was missing vital features but how's the battery life on his latest 1.7 updated version is anyone using that rom nd kernal?
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Leave your wifi on all day connected to wherever you are. It's the 3g data that uses much of the power. I keep my work and my job's wifi remembered and get 20 hrs on a charge with medium/heavy use on stock 2.2. If no access to wifi most of the day, this won't help you.
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Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
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Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
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The 30 FPS limit and SetCPU are two different things. SetCPU will allow you to overclock/underclock your phone's CPU. The 30 FPS limit is a video limitation and will need a kernel to remove.
I'm currently running Baked Snack 1.7 and I believe his stock kernel. I get about 14-15 hours with medium/heavy use.
Will be checking out kernel #6 later today.
i have been running flipz newer rom with the new unreleased kernal and my battery life is AMAZING, I mean very very good. I was thinking about giving CM6 a try again with flashing the new v7.6 kernal thats supposed to be really good.
But I was wondering what people are getting with cm6 and the kernals as far as batt life.
Ive never personally flashed a kernal before so not sure on how well or how much they affect the phone or if its worth it.
any help? like as far as the best kernal for a CM6 rom and and reports on batt life comapred to the new leaked kernal
I'm getting better battery life on stock now, then I was on any other modded kernel (kings, cm6, and some others.)
Nand backup and give it a shot. It seems way to better to me than stock or even cm6 nightly with newest kernel.
also whats the difference between bfs and cfs roms?
i feel batt life with CM6nightly + snap7.6 in turbo mode is about how the phone was when it was first released...you can make it a day with light use, but using it a ton, i seem to get around 8-10 hours.
However...getting 2600+ in Quadrant and no lag, anywhere, ever...makes up for it. I'm always within reach of a USB port or wall outlet so i just carry the charger/cord around with me.
I haven't actually ran it from full to dead outside of work. However at work i constantly drop signal and regain it repeatedly for the 8~ hours i'm here.
I have ran gbread leaks since they dropped, then when the ota hit I was using kernels. Now some kind development have modified some new kernels w UV and HDMI but recently I flashed back to my old faithful myns rls5 w netarchy 4.3.4 cfs no UV and SBC.
I guess to get to my point, why is the battery just sooooo much better. I lost very few things going to froyo. It is not as snappy at the same clock speed but it still gets it done. I have been on wifi and 3g today and the total at 12 hours is only 77%. I have downloaded roms, taking pictures, messaging. I am currently on all the latest radio, pri, NV and it sleeps great. Is the SBC that much better? Always ran SBC before gbread and on aosp but nothing has gotten me the same battery life that froyo has. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? If its just due to SBC who do I need to talk to to beg to modify a kernel to achieve this? A bounty, lol, PayPal? Microsoft points? Really I love my Evo and it would be a while before I'm getting rid of it.
I can see a few benefits of being on the latest operating system but right now, my battery really negates any of the reasons. And please, if I had the time I would research more on going it myself but married, kids, jobs, mortgage etc etc my time is slim enough as it is. Thanks for anyone with ideas or help to try to get this into effect as we as a community would all benefit. I'm not here for an SBC vs non SBC debate. I have ran it for almost a year w no issues. I will just buy more batteries. My old seidio 3500 is still running flawless as is my stock Evo battery.
Oh yeah, kudos to anyone that read the whole thing hahaha
well if the question is if you can get good battery life on gingerbread then I get pretty good battery life with MikG 2.52 and the aggressive freedom kernel. I also use Juice Defender... You can download it from the market.
I also have been on Mik. Great rom. I used to think it was just SBC but it may be more. Froyo just doesn't seem to require as many resources to produce. Battery for me just seems better overall. I'm 18 hrs @ 65% on an extended w pretty decent use. Dunno. Just seems like going forward in os should translate into better everywhere. I thought SBC would get to gingersense. All I heard for months was waiting for source. Then source gets here and it must be harder to make work as well as the froyo kernels.
Really just kinda wondering others experiences
Ironically, I was sitting here last night thinking the same thing. On a good Froyo ROM, Koni Elite III for example, with NetArchy SBC HAvs More, and a conditioned 3500mAH battery, I could use my phone for 2-3 days without charging.
My setup below is OK, but still, I play a simple game like Klondike Solitaire for an hour and I'm down 15%. A 20 minute phone will make a major drop and texting someone for an hour or so is good for about a 20% drop
I have been on CM6 for almost a month. Great battery life and awesome 3G speeds. Something I was not getting with any GB ROM. By the way, using the stock kernel.
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I made a test a couple weeks ago, just trying to compare Synergy with and without an SBC charge. Without any question SBC makes a huge difference in longevity of daily use charges. The thread is back a few pages and makea for good reading.
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I think it has a lot to do with the kernel you decide to use.
As one of the primary allures to rooting is better battery life, I'd really love some help from the experts out there.
Background: Way back when the original Sprint Lovers ROM was supported and updated, I used that in conjunction with one of Netarchy's 4.2 kernels and all was glorious. I easily got 2 days on a single charge. After that ROM stopped being supported, I went with Myn's Warm 2.2 and ever since then, I've had mediocre battery life (get about a day on single charge). After Warm, I went to Synergy and finally, I ended up on Swagged Out Stock. I've tried various kernels...ChopSuey, Freedom...all to no avail. I hardly doubt I would have that bad of luck trying so many combos of ROMs and kernels, so I'm pretty certain I'm missing something.
I'll try to cover as many bases as possible to help troubleshoot, so if I miss anything please lmk:
- light to light-moderate user
- no live wallpaper
- usually max signal, maybe 10% is between 3-4 bars
- "Mobile Data Always On" unchecked, auto sync only on gmail, weather and news are manual syncs
- not the awake lock problem (21h since last charge, display is at 34%)
- have reflashed ROMs multiple times
- tried ChopSuey's kernel, lithid's aggressive and less kernels
- correctly recalibrated batt stats multiple times and anytime I flash a ROM/kernel
- 245Mhz-998Mhz, interactiveX, cfq scheduler
- in SystemPanel, nothing is taking up a significant amount of CPU space
- battery had light swelling so Sprint gave me a new sealed one a few days ago
Currently, this is what my software looks like:
Baseband: 2.15.00.0808
Kernel: 2.6.35.10-Freedom-v0.9+
SOS RC2.2
4.53.651.1
PRI 2.15_003
PRL 60681
I think that covers everything. I'm willing to sacrifice my first-born to get get back 2 days on a charge Thanks!
Get rid of Sense = more battery life.
Maybe try UltimateJuice from the market too.
You mean going to AOSP?
I understand AOSP ROMs in general have better life than Sense, but as Sprint Lovers was Sense wouldn't that be a moot point?
I never got to 2 days with battery life but if you want to stay with sense try freedom aggressive with clock speed 245-768 interactivex but AOSP does give much better battery life
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Truth is, since GB came out, battery life is just not the same as Froyo. I, too, went 2+ days on the Froyo Sense ROMs I ran, with Netarchy SBC Kernels, but there is no SBC for Sense now, for one thing, and there newer versions of Android plus the Sense 3.x ports just use a lot more resources.
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Truth is, since GB came out, battery life is just not the same as Froyo. I, too, went 2+ days on the Froyo Sense ROMs I ran, with Netarchy SBC Kernels, but there is no SBC for Sense now, for one thing, and there newer versions of Android plus the Sense 3.x ports just use a lot more resources.
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Sense in general is more of a battery hog than aosp. I can go 2 days plus on CM7.
Mikg plus aggressive is by far my fav against myns on sense. I easily doubled the life of myns. Slightly less than 2 days.
hacked ass EVO. Mikg 2.58/aggresive freedom .9 universal
Hm, perhaps I spoke too soon. Maybe the new battery is helping or something because this is the best batt life I've seen since I flashed Warm 2.2 (did this around August or September of last year). Keep in mind that the batt I swapped out was somewhat swollen.
20h 7m since last charge and still @ 72%. If I'm not mistaken SOS comes with Freedom Less so I'm gonna try Aggressive and see how that pans out. I did not know that GB was that much more a resource hog than FroYo, so that was interesting to learn.
Keeping my fingers crossed -- thanks for the replies.
hmm glad to know its better...I had a question, i dont know if this is considered hijacking a thread or anything i'm sorry if it is, i couldnt seem to open my own thread lol...but its the same topic..
I rooted my friends evo and flashed it with koni elite 3 rom and netarchy toastmod 4.3.4 cms......the battery life was terrible even worse then when it wasnt rooted... so i thought maybe i didnt flash the kernel, so i went into recovery wiped davlic cache and cache and flashed the kernel...then i fixed permissions...but still terrible battery life..do you think itll get A LOT better after calibrating the battery? or that there is something else wrong with it?
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hmm glad to know its better...I had a question, i dont know if this is considered hijacking a thread or anything i'm sorry if it is, i couldnt seem to open my own thread lol...but its the same topic..
I rooted my friends evo and flashed it with koni elite 3 rom and netarchy toastmod 4.3.4 cms......the battery life was terrible even worse then when it wasnt rooted... so i thought maybe i didnt flash the kernel, so i went into recovery wiped davlic cache and cache and flashed the kernel...then i fixed permissions...but still terrible battery life..do you think itll get A LOT better after calibrating the battery? or that there is something else wrong with it?
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Everbody and their mother says to delete battery stats. Lifehacker just linked an article a few days back that said that battery stats.bin delete is actually counterproductive.sense I stopped deleting it my battery is getting better and better..
Example; I have been tapatalking for about an hour now and it has been at the same bat level the whole time. Apparently it takes any a week or two to settle in the OS after the last erase.they also said the most likely reason to delete are new phone(as a baseline) or new battery. Lots of opinions but this tip is helping me...
hacked ass EVO. Mikg 2.58/aggresive freedom .9 universal
thanks ill give it a few days to settle in and ill let everyone know how it goes
I need to get more battery life out of my Inc. What ROM gave the best battery life? Froyo, GB or ICS. I will flash any one that gives me the most time to use it.
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Using froyo sense 1.0 roms... with Lou's #8 kernel, that was my most battery efficient rom-kernel combination.
I run vanilla(GB)/incredikernel now, and with a lot more of customization, I am close-but-not-quite as efficient as froyo sense/Lou's #8.
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Using froyo sense 1.0 roms... with Lou's #8 kernel, that was my most battery efficient rom-kernel combination.
I run vanilla(GB)/incredikernel now, and with a lot more of customization, I am close-but-not-quite as efficient as froyo sense/Lou's #8.
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None of Lou's links work anymore. I may try the Froyo Incredikernel. Did you ever use that?
Right now I'm on hour 20 of my battery and still at 70% on GB Inc-Deck with 11/03 incredikernel. Granted its been light use but i did have a 30 minute phone call with the gf in there.
Also Stock+ had the best sense rom battery life ive seen.
Just make sure you can use SmartassV2/InteractiveX/Intellidemand with your kernel. helped me out a lot
Edit: The froyo incredikernel with Skyraider was pretty slick too but i havent used that combo in months
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Right now I'm on hour 20 of my battery and still at 70% on GB Inc-Deck with 11/03 incredikernel. Granted its been light use but i did have a 30 minute phone call with the gf in there.
Also Stock+ had the best sense rom battery life ive seen.
Just make sure you can use SmartassV2/InteractiveX/Intellidemand with your kernel. helped me out a lot
Edit: The froyo incredikernel with Skyraider was pretty slick too but i havent used that combo in months
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I've been using my own ROM with Interactivex and I can get maybe 10 hours out of it. I'm a flashaholic anyways, so I'll probably end up trying everything
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I've been using my own ROM with Interactivex and I can get maybe 10 hours out of it. I'm a flashaholic anyways, so I'll probably end up trying everything
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The other day I went through 5 different roms including yours, that's not the 2 I went through on my transformer... I'm cooling down the flashaholism.
But you probably know by now that a good flash cycle is gonna kill about 10% of battery at a time. Try dropping your screen brightness down to 15% i did that and finally got it to be <50% of where my battery was going.
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The other day I went through 5 different roms including yours, that's not the 2 I went through on my transformer... I'm cooling down the flashaholism.
But you probably know by now that a good flash cycle is gonna kill about 10% of battery at a time. Try dropping your screen brightness down to 15% i did that and finally got it to be <50% of where my battery was going.
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Thanks. I've been running Skyraider 4.2/Incredikernel today. Battery life has been better. I'm trying Lou #8 now to see how that runs.