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new sprint kernal vs cm6 on batt life

i have been running flipz newer rom with the new unreleased kernal and my battery life is AMAZING, I mean very very good. I was thinking about giving CM6 a try again with flashing the new v7.6 kernal thats supposed to be really good.
But I was wondering what people are getting with cm6 and the kernals as far as batt life.
Ive never personally flashed a kernal before so not sure on how well or how much they affect the phone or if its worth it.

any help? like as far as the best kernal for a CM6 rom and and reports on batt life comapred to the new leaked kernal

I'm getting better battery life on stock now, then I was on any other modded kernel (kings, cm6, and some others.)

Nand backup and give it a shot. It seems way to better to me than stock or even cm6 nightly with newest kernel.

also whats the difference between bfs and cfs roms?

i feel batt life with CM6nightly + snap7.6 in turbo mode is about how the phone was when it was first released...you can make it a day with light use, but using it a ton, i seem to get around 8-10 hours.
However...getting 2600+ in Quadrant and no lag, anywhere, ever...makes up for it. I'm always within reach of a USB port or wall outlet so i just carry the charger/cord around with me.
I haven't actually ran it from full to dead outside of work. However at work i constantly drop signal and regain it repeatedly for the 8~ hours i'm here.

Opinion on great rom/kernel with good battery??

So I am looking to change roms. I am on BS 1.8 now and sick of the whole mess of them only using their forum and having to pay to get files, so I am looking to switch.
What rom/kernel are you all using that's giving you great battery life, high quad scores? Please post your configurations, so I can make a decision. Oh, no CM6...I like Sense.
I have been looking at
Virus Anthrax
Calkulin's EViO 2
Frost
Burnt Droid

Still happily rocking my Fresh 3.3.0.1
I donated to Damage, but he seemed to release a rom then take a 3 month vacation.
I donated to Fresh to get the beta stuff, but his roms are just rock solid, great battery life, fast, and I just don't have to mess with it. I did flash a new taskbar and back to standard rosie.
I am not a fan of the donation stuff. I can understand why they do it, but it seems to contradict the community. I have a lot of respect for these guys for what they do, I know it takes a lot of time. But its a hobby they choose to get into. They make a decent product, get some people following them, then they want to make it their job and get paid for stuff just doesn't seem right to me.

I still swear by Fresh(have since the beginning) enough to donate to him. I decided to switch it up for fun and now im on myn's Warm twopointtwo....Its just as solid, smooth, and battery efficient as Fresh but to me looks sexier and has beautiful transitions.

Ex-BSer here. I'm test driving myn with King's #9 kernel. I like so far. I am looking forward to RLS2.

the funny thing about sense based roms. There isnt a ton visible differences between them. a lot of it is behind the scene tweaks. and even all those are usually very minor differences in performance.
Basically what i am saying is it is all a personal preference. I have literally used every rom currently out for evo on this forum. most of them preform comparable real world (one may get a slightly higher bench blah blah.) there are a few "minor" differences between most of the up to date roms that may sway you but over all i would be willing to bet most people wouldnt be able to tell a difference in actual use of most of the sense roms (though i am sure many will claim otherwise i am sure but placebos work for a reason and the general public think the iphone is the best phone for a reason and none of which because it is true)
AOSP is different however as it doesnt pertain to this post wont go there. as far as the look of the gui if you look through the themes section you can normally find a comparable look to go with any rom (ie a lot of them use manups) so i normally tell people instead of asking to just play with them and see what they feel works best for them. Everyone will tell you there favorite rom is the best and will swear by it many having never tried the others. SO try the big ones and see which one you like is normally best some of the big sense based ones are
Virus, Fresh, Evio, warm twopointtwo, DC(though it is fading fast since it is getting) pretty out of date)
all fo these with proper settings gave me pretty good battery life and performance with both kings and netarchy kernels.
If i had to choose one i personally like Evio best but thats mainly because Caulk is awesome and the davik is on the cache partition freeing up some of the space on the phone.

omegasun18 said:
If i had to choose one i personally like Evio best but thats mainly because Caulk is awesome and the davik is on the cache partition freeing up some of the space on the phone.
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i've tried almost every ROM available (literally) and it boilded down between baked and evio. i'm still switching back and forth but am leaning towards evio as it has more tweaks (dalvik moved to sd, haptic feedback removed from dialer and lockscreen, ability to remove sense and htc lockscreen, awesome notification icons, clear htc lockscreen, debug icon removed, reboot/recover option when power button is long pressed...). calk also seems like he's on the ball more.
as far as battery, i think the kernels will help with that more than the ROM. i swore by baked #6 for battery life, but am test driving king's #6 CFS and i may have a new kernel i'll recommend for battery life. i was dropping about 5-7% per hour on average daily use with baked #6; i'm currently averaging a drop of 3-5% per hour with kings #6 CFS. if you're a benchmark guy, i'm also getting higher linpack/quadrant scores (at lower frequencies to boot) w/ kings.

quocamole said:
i was dropping about 5-7% per hour on average daily use with baked #6; i'm currently averaging a drop of 3-5% per hour with kings #6 CFS. if you're a benchmark guy, i'm also getting higher linpack/quadrant scores (at lower frequencies to boot) w/ kings.
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I cannot find BS #6 anywhere. I have donated on the baked shack and never got access, so the only time I saw #6 was at install. I will try King 6 cfs right now. I have also heard this before.
I was on Fresh 3.3 and once I flashed NA 4.1.9, I kept losing my Sense homescreen option. Two fresh installs and same thing. I moved to BS 1.8....Hero and those guys removed all traces of BS from this forum and you can only get access to any of it from their site, which they drag their feet letting people in....Hence me looking to move on past BS.. and their BS.

EVOme said:
I cannot find BS #6 anywhere. I have donated on the baked shack and never got access, so the only time I saw #6 was at install. I will try King 6 cfs right now. I have also heard this before.
I was on Fresh 3.3 and once I flashed NA 4.1.9, I kept losing my Sense homescreen option. Two fresh installs and same thing. I moved to BS 1.8....Hero and those guys removed all traces of BS from this forum and you can only get access to any of it from their site, which they drag their feet letting people in....Hence me looking to move on past BS.. and their BS.
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hero did not pack up and leave... he was booted by xda (i'll reserve my opinions about the matter).
try sending them a message through their webpage. i had to do the same after a couple of days of no response to my donation.
how are you liking kings #6 cfs?

quocamole said:
hero did not pack up and leave... he was booted by xda (i'll reserve my opinions about the matter).
try sending them a message through their webpage. i had to do the same after a couple of days of no response to my donation.
how are you liking kings #6 cfs?
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Booted from here...hmmmm, can't imagine why. I finally got CFS 6 flashed about 10pm and went to bed. I woke up at 7am @ 85%. It was like 98% when I hit the bed. Charging to full now and see how it does today.

[Q] 2.1 and 2.2 roms

Does 2.2 provide better battery life than a 2.1 rom + UV kernel?
Better question...for the guys who've had the 2.1 roms + undervolted kernels and are now on 2.2...which was better? I really want to know about just battery life but the more you provide the better.
Sorry if this has been posted up, I didnt really search so I expect and welcome the flaming. I will be searching after I post this though and if I can gather enough info that helps me out, I'll beg for this thread to be deleted.

Honstley, stock 2.2 gave me slightly less battery life than epic experience 2.1 with pheonix kernel and more than stock 2.1 but I'm currently running midnight and have run every bonsai rom as well and the battery life on these are amazing, I get about 14 hours on a charge and that is litening to music for 8 hours straight while I'm at work. I can't tell you aout the other dk28 roms since I've only ran bonsai and midnight but they give me great battery life and I don't think I could stand to go back to 2.1 now
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Sh0wNuF said:
Honstley, stock 2.2 gave me slightly less battery life than epic experience 2.1 with pheonix kernel and more than stock 2.1 but I'm currently running midnight and have run every bonsai rom as well and the battery life on these are amazing, I get about 14 hours on a charge and that is litening to music for 8 hours straight while I'm at work. I can't tell you aout the other dk28 roms since I've only ran bonsai and midnight but they give me great battery life and I don't think I could stand to go back to 2.1 now
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Thank you thank you I knew as soon as I went back to 2.1 someone would respond >.< but its all good. 8 hours straight of music is what I like to read because thats very close to what I pull in. 2.2 has some great UI changes over 2.1 and on Bonsai I got about 14 hours on a charge as well under perfect conditions and but daily it was an avg at around 12 so I appreciate this post a lot. I've never ran 2.1 for long, as soon as I got this phone I just put on 2.2 so I never got to see what it had to offer so I guess I'll give it a go. I really just want the added battery life.

Going from noobnls 2.1 rom with different kernals, stock with noobnls kernal, now to bonsai, I say its pretty close to the same on some days 2.2 last forever that's if I'm not hands all over it playing with all the awesome 2.2 feutures which has been since last weekend once I get bored of the upgrade I say 2.2 bonsai is better
Sent From Bonsai Epic 4g

i get better battery life on dk28 than di18.

coolness. i've been back on 2.1 roms, and I haven't wanted to change back to dk28 because of battery life myself. but a lot of people are liking Bonsai, so that might be the next thing i try before official 2.2 drops.

davidrules7778 said:
Going from noobnls 2.1 rom with different kernals, stock with noobnls kernal, now to bonsai, I say its pretty close to the same on some days 2.2 last forever that's if I'm not hands all over it playing with all the awesome 2.2 feutures which has been since last weekend once I get bored of the upgrade I say 2.2 bonsai is better
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yeah, Bonsai was really really damn good. That thing was on roids or something. I tried another 2.2 rom for today and it was just terrible...one thing I dont like is how they are all themed up >.< But I got that stock theme from that huge theme thread so its all good, but still....

The reason I like bonsai is its clean of no extra themes it apps its like the mighty rom of the epic and everything works amazing no bugs!!! I am very satisfied with it til next week when supposedly froyo official is coming
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ms79723 said:
I really want to know about just battery life
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Battery life is all relative to what your are doing with your phone.
So many people like to tell everyone how they got XX hours on XXX Rom with "moderate use" or "heavy usage", etc..
It's all relative, moderate to some would be heavy to others, etc.
Sh0wNuF said:
I'm currently running midnight and have run every bonsai rom as well and the battery life on these are amazing
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midNIGHT is based on Bonsai (IIRC), so I would expect them to be similar.
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til next week when supposedly froyo official is coming
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
The only thing I would add is that, for me, Bonsai does a wonderful job at minimizing battery use while the phone is idle (ie sleeping). If the screen is off it seems like it will last forever!
Best thing you could do is load up a Rom and try it out for a few days.
No one's phone usage is the same as yours so just try for yourself.
ms79723 said:
so I expect and welcome the flaming.
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Idiot! Tard! Noob! Troll! Dork!
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ms79723 said:
Does 2.2 provide better battery life than a 2.1 rom + UV kernel?
Better question...for the guys who've had the 2.1 roms + undervolted kernels and are now on 2.2...which was better? I really want to know about just battery life but the more you provide the better.
Sorry if this has been posted up, I didnt really search so I expect and welcome the flaming. I will be searching after I post this though and if I can gather enough info that helps me out, I'll beg for this thread to be deleted.
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So far for me the best I have found ( 300+ texts 2+ hours phone calls lots of internet both on and off wifi/4g with screen on time (auto bright) averaging 7hrs a day) is CWM 3 DK28 EXT 4 viperrom 4.0.3 average 16 hours before low battery alert and Im pretty sure I have tried them all with the exception of cyanogenmod and for that I will wait till the team says its stable.
EDIT: for some reason I NEVER have a time without signal below or above 50% even if I check it 2 mins after unplug but that dosent seem to drain battery like it did on DI18 (average tw/os there was 30-40% same usage but only 8-9 hrs until phone off from dead battery)

SBC Kernel for MikG?

I want an SBC kernel for MikG. What do I flash? I know I cant use the AOSP kernels like Tiamat, and Toasty says for froyo only, so...

Netarchy's kernels would work great, but could potentially mess up the camera (not permanently, just while using the kernel)
Swyped from my Raided Evo

There is no custom kernel for Mik 1.01 or any of the Ginger/Sense ROM's yet, I'm don't believe

There isn't because source code isn't released yet, however, you can flash older kernels but it may make things like camera not work properly. But weigh your preferences... camera or longer battery life with SBC? I'd rather have better battery life
Swyped from my Raided Evo

Does anybody know if there are plans to release this source code, and if so, when it might be? Or is that all up in the air at this point...?

I too was thinking about sbc if I switched over to "MikG v1.03" because with decks rom and tiamat along with the vipermod script I no longer even think about the battery it easily holds up all day with normal use, I see for the MikG rom there's a suggestion this kernel [Kernel] - 2.6.35.10-htc-kernal_and18-2 - from the OTA will also work.
Anyone have experiance with how the phones holding up with that combination?
I'm 12 hours 40 mins on battery with 24% left and I used my phone a lot today.

That's the stock kernel that comes with the OTA.
If you're used to SBC, like I am, you'll be missing it. Remember when your Evo was stock?? It's not that bad, but the immediate 5-10% drop is back.
The drain isn't terrible, but it's not good, either.

Yea that sbc is something else, some mornings when I've unplugged my phone but not used it much its still at 100% a half hour later and at noon it might say 96% which is just crazy compared to stock.
Ok thanks for the info on the kernel... I may give it a try but I sure don't want to go back to carrying two batteries around that was ridiculous...

Even with an extended, I still carry 2 around, but then I live in the land of Tornadoes and drive a 20 yr old car.....

Q: is froyo just better on battery than gbread?

I have ran gbread leaks since they dropped, then when the ota hit I was using kernels. Now some kind development have modified some new kernels w UV and HDMI but recently I flashed back to my old faithful myns rls5 w netarchy 4.3.4 cfs no UV and SBC.
I guess to get to my point, why is the battery just sooooo much better. I lost very few things going to froyo. It is not as snappy at the same clock speed but it still gets it done. I have been on wifi and 3g today and the total at 12 hours is only 77%. I have downloaded roms, taking pictures, messaging. I am currently on all the latest radio, pri, NV and it sleeps great. Is the SBC that much better? Always ran SBC before gbread and on aosp but nothing has gotten me the same battery life that froyo has. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? If its just due to SBC who do I need to talk to to beg to modify a kernel to achieve this? A bounty, lol, PayPal? Microsoft points? Really I love my Evo and it would be a while before I'm getting rid of it.
I can see a few benefits of being on the latest operating system but right now, my battery really negates any of the reasons. And please, if I had the time I would research more on going it myself but married, kids, jobs, mortgage etc etc my time is slim enough as it is. Thanks for anyone with ideas or help to try to get this into effect as we as a community would all benefit. I'm not here for an SBC vs non SBC debate. I have ran it for almost a year w no issues. I will just buy more batteries. My old seidio 3500 is still running flawless as is my stock Evo battery.

Oh yeah, kudos to anyone that read the whole thing hahaha

well if the question is if you can get good battery life on gingerbread then I get pretty good battery life with MikG 2.52 and the aggressive freedom kernel. I also use Juice Defender... You can download it from the market.

I also have been on Mik. Great rom. I used to think it was just SBC but it may be more. Froyo just doesn't seem to require as many resources to produce. Battery for me just seems better overall. I'm 18 hrs @ 65% on an extended w pretty decent use. Dunno. Just seems like going forward in os should translate into better everywhere. I thought SBC would get to gingersense. All I heard for months was waiting for source. Then source gets here and it must be harder to make work as well as the froyo kernels.
Really just kinda wondering others experiences

Ironically, I was sitting here last night thinking the same thing. On a good Froyo ROM, Koni Elite III for example, with NetArchy SBC HAvs More, and a conditioned 3500mAH battery, I could use my phone for 2-3 days without charging.
My setup below is OK, but still, I play a simple game like Klondike Solitaire for an hour and I'm down 15%. A 20 minute phone will make a major drop and texting someone for an hour or so is good for about a 20% drop

I have been on CM6 for almost a month. Great battery life and awesome 3G speeds. Something I was not getting with any GB ROM. By the way, using the stock kernel.
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I made a test a couple weeks ago, just trying to compare Synergy with and without an SBC charge. Without any question SBC makes a huge difference in longevity of daily use charges. The thread is back a few pages and makea for good reading.
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I think it has a lot to do with the kernel you decide to use.