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[Q] Fresh vs. CM6 vs. Two Point Two

Hey guys, I am not a noob to flashing roms or anything but I have been on the new Fresh for awhile and I really want to try out a new rom. I have been eyeing CM6 and Myn's Two Point Two. I was just looking for some input of those that are currently running these roms as to why I should switch from fresh?
Thanks

Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.

beatblaster said:
Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.
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Wow, thanks man I wasn't expecting an in-depth explanation like you gave. I really appreciate it, and yeah I am pretty addicted to Sense unfortunately, everyone always bags on it though and says how its bogs down your phone etc. Thats why I was considering trying CM6. Does the Music Widget work for you on Warm? I had read that it wasn't working for some people and that was why I was apprehensive about switching. Also, what kernel would you advise to use with it. I have always been a netarchy guy never really tried out Kings too much.

The Music widget works for me. I've never had a problem with it. As for kernels, I'm with you man - Netarchy FTW! King's kernels are hit or miss for me. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I don't mean to sound like a **** but I don't have time for hit or miss So, netarchy 4.1.9.1 CFS is working just fine for me at the moment.
As for Sense, I like Sense too although sometimes I miss LauncherPro. Then I move to LauncherPro and then I miss Sense. Go figure. I'm never happy with these things for long. Just keep an eye out for my sig as you wander through the forums. It changes, like, every other freakin day.

haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?

I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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squiggie said:
I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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What kernel are you running? I am getting ready to flash I just would like to have everything good to go with flash number 1 haha

Yellowcard8992 said:
haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?
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CFS vs BFS..... they have to do with different CPU schedulers if I understand it correctly. Theoretically, you're supposed to get slightly better performance with BFS but it's been a little buggy on my phone (launch day, 002 hardware) and what's performance without stability? CFS works just as fine but, honestly, you're going to have to search for this answer on your own. King's kernel threads are where I found a really good explanation of the differences between the two and I remember it's how I decided CFS was probably best for me just for the life of me I can't remember what was said now that I think about it. Not all EVO's are created equal. For some, CFS rocks and for others it sucks. Same goes for BFS. Just try both and see how it goes. I'd start with CFS if I were you.
Sorry I couldn't give you a better answer! That's not usually my style

Well I appreciate all your help man, its not every member that is willing to give an in-depth response. Very rarely do you see that. So thanks a million for that man.

No problem. Just doing my part to pay it forward.

i just flashed a few roms tonight i have been using fresh but wanted to try a new one ive tried calks 2 virus roms and now warm i personally like it like a previous post its real snappy and my set cpu isnt even installed on my phone kings bfs 9 seems to work the best for me ive tried other roms with other kernels mixed and matched but im stuck on kings

What do you like better about Warm over Fresh?
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You just happened to mention the only three roms that I have ran for long lengths of time.
CyanogenMod:
I ran CM6 the longest and it is a very lean and snappy rom - it also got me hooked on LauncherPro. I really loved the customization ability of CM6 and it was a pleasant change from SenseUI. Also one of the biggest factors was it was the first Rom that I used with FPS unlocked. This is the only rom I used SetCPU with and everything ran stable and quick.
Having said that...
I found myself missing some sense widgets (LauncherPro paid version really addresses this but there is a smoothness in the sense widgets that it is missing). Also there is the issue with 4G and some quirkiness I experienced with CM6.
Fresh 3.2 and 3.3:
I flashed Fresh 3.2 and fell back in love with Sense. The new HTC kernel 11 came out and the FPS cap was gone (Fresh 3.3 I think). There was much I had missed from Sense - it is refined and just feels complete with everything (4G, camera, etc...) working properly. I can't hit the quadrant scores that I could on CM6 but I realized that I no longer cared about that. The rom was smooth and snappy. It did everything that I wanted it to.
Myn's Warm Two.Two:
I am currently on Myn's Warm 2.2 with HTC #11 and I'm loving it. For me, it's just about the looks of this thing. It's sleek and snappy with sort of a minimalist look. It retains the functionality of sense with a completely custom look and feel. The black themed keyboard fits so well with it - I really think HTC would have been better off with this design.
Conclusion:
Your real decision is do you prefer AOSP or Sense. I personally find myself enjoying the functionality of Sense more - however, I can totally see where others love AOSP. I love them both - but prefer the refinement of Sense and it is plenty smooth and snappy for me.
AOSP - CyanogenMod
Sense (stock look) - Fresh
Sense (custom look) - Myn's Warm
My Perfect Rom - SenseUI (including widgets) with LauncherPro launcher. Unfortunately for me, this doesn't exist yet
Note:
I know battery life is a hot topic and influences the rom and kernel that people select. I often wonder if it is hardware or application related because I have seen 24+ hour battery life from each of these roms/kernels. Some may have been a little better but the difference was negligible.
I don't really consider myself a heavy user - but not a light one either. Maybe I have just been lucky so far. I generally put my phone on charge every night (I've missed a night here or there) and I have NEVER gotten below 15% battery life - even camping for two days in airplane mode)

Been out of the game for a while. Hoping for some discussion.

Hey guys running miui and haven't been keeping up on all the roms as of late.
Just wanted to see if anyone would like to recommend any new roms and kernels to try out.
Big things im looking for is speed,stability, and battery life. Also the look of the rom.
4g isn't as important but would be nice though battery life is really important though can't stress that enough.
And about kernals could someone explain the main differences totally lost on those. Like the havs and cuts and what not.
So any suggestions?
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guess i posted in the wrong section or something......just looking for some friendly advice.

thorpe24 said:
Hey guys running miui and haven't been keeping up on all the roms as of late.
Just wanted to see if anyone would like to recommend any new roms and kernels to try out.
Big things im looking for is speed,stability, and battery life. Also the look of the rom.
4g isn't as important but would be nice though battery life is really important though can't stress that enough.
And about kernals could someone explain the main differences totally lost on those. Like the havs and cuts and what not.
So any suggestions?
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You're in the right place, people aren't just replying. But anyways...to the point
Sense rom- Mikfroyo, Myn's Warm 2.2, Azrael, Evio, are the talk from what I hear, all offer good battery life, and performance. All have 4g, as being a sense rom
AOSP- Personally I recommend CM7 Nightlies, android 2.3 You can also get the nightly version w/ wimax, based off build 24.
Kernels:
Savaged zen HAVS CFS+ works well for me giving me
HAVS- basically has a "preset" setcpu installed to regulate battery voltages
NO HAVS ^ none of that
SBC -superior battery charger, trickle charges your battery to get the "full 100%" can damage your battery, use at your own risk, and can cause the phone to lag
CFS- a fair scheduler to moderately disperse, well rounded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880 <- all ya need to know on kernels. I hope this helps.
Edit: http://mirror.munkibizness.com/ link to the savaged zen kernels. Also, give a kernel 2 or 3 days to "set in" for you phone to get used to it. Won't see a change right off the bat.

Thanks Alot Man, appreciate it.

Anytime man. Let me know if there's anything else I can help ya' with.

What version of MIUI are you on? I've been running MIUI since the beginning of November, I really can't use anything else. Nothing compares.

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What version of MIUI are you on? I've been running MIUI since the beginning of November, I really can't use anything else. Nothing compares.
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i'm running 1.1.28 and having alot of stability and force close problems hang ups freezes etc. it's really annoying and while i love the look, which is basically prettier iphone with widgets. wish folders were as easy as ios though a little annoying on here so i haven't organized my apps since i had to reinstall all my apps.
i'm really just looking for the best battery life first, then stability/speed. and i'm so low on time to test stuff. working for a startup that just got funded so we are in overdrive trying to do the work of 20 odd people with just 4 or 5

Did you run calk's format all script before flashing? I'm on 1.1.28 as well and it has been more stable for me than any ROM i've ever tried. Not a single force close or reboot, it doesn't hang, and my battery can last two full days. Also have you tried any different kernels? For folders I use SiMi Folder Widget, it's very easy to organize and it looks great.

_MetalHead_ said:
Did you run calk's format all script before flashing? I'm on 1.1.28 as well and it has been more stable for me than any ROM i've ever tried. Not a single force close or reboot, it doesn't hang, and my battery can last two full days. Also have you tried any different kernels? For folders I use SiMi Folder Widget, it's very easy to organize and it looks great.
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yes i did interested in your setup it's nice what do you use

Well like I said, I'm on MIUI 1.1.28 with the kernel that it comes with, LauncherPro Plus, SiMi Folder and SiMi Clock. All of the icons are part of DreamLyfe icon packs. I use Agenda Widget and System info Widget on one page and then Beautiful Weather and Pandora widgets on the other. That's pretty much it, I like to keep things nice an simple.

What is the difference between Myn Warm and MikFroyo?

These 2 seem to be the most popular Sense based rom's (at least in my opinion from what I have noticed.)
So I was wondering, what are the major/main differences between these 2 roms?
Thank you,
Whiteice

beside their looks? not real sure. But I can't say much. I've never tried either of them

They are both 3.70 base but i believe mik removed all extra stuff like additional languages from the ROM to stream line it. Both are solid and you should be happy with either one
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These 2 seem to be the most popular Sense based rom's (at least in my opinion from what I have noticed.)
So I was wondering, what are the major/main differences between these 2 roms?
Thank you,
Whiteice
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MikFroYo is faster and like above post has lots if useless files removed that can be recovered if you want.
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MikFroYo V4.5
HTC #15
Amon's Recovery

I've tried both and they are obviously similar since they are both Sense based ROMs off of the newest release... I will say that Mik seems a little faster, but both are nice. The differences are in themes basically and I'm sure some things "behind the scenes" that you really wont notice... Just try them both...

I have just flashed both within the past week, and I have to say I like Myn's better. I can easily go 3 days without a charge, but with the MikFroyo it would die the same as stock, about 10 hours.

MikFroYo: his rom focuses more on performance than looks. Besides removing bloatware and files we don't use (like language files), he zipaligns all the apks (seemingly a different way each update) and otherwise mods it for speed and stability.
Myn: his rom focuses more on looks than speed. His rom is heavily themed and includes all the extras. It's not too much slower than MikFroyo (some people don't notice a difference, but power users like me do).
Myn's rom has more additional themes and add ons than MikFroYo, but MikFroYo have a few that really rock.
I might also suggest Konikub's Elite Series I. It's kind of the in-between from Mik to Myn. It's faster than Myn but more themed than MikFroYo. Plus, it has a themed messenger APP (not just the widget, the whole damn app) which is what I've been looking for.
However, to really notice and see the differences you'll have to try them out. All three roms are stable, with very few (if any) bugs (I couldn't find any) and have all the features of a stock Evo. They all even have a few more features that stock doesn't have
I highly recommend that you try them.
Also, what kernel you have attached can determine battery life and speed performance as well. The conquering winner is Netarchy's kernels (4.3.1 is the most recent stable version with 4.3.2 in beta...both work well) but I use MS79723's SBC #15 v7 which helps a little more with battery life (in my opinion) despite the bad joojoo that SBC has the potential to do battery damage.

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I have just flashed both within the past week, and I have to say I like Myn's better. I can easily go 3 days without a charge, but with the MikFroyo it would die the same as stock, about 10 hours.
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Wow, What are you using for a kernel? The most I got with Myns is 14 hours with medium use (texting throughout the day, an hour of calls, 4 hours or so of web, push email/calander). I am using netarchy more havs no sbc. Are you using juicedefender or the like?

Good thread, I also have the same question. Looks like there is a ton of variation about which rom focuses on what too (speed vs. looks)

i like Myns a lot and performance was just as good as Mik .... but i have been trying Ava Z3 and i love it. I also added Calkulin (misspelled sorrry) battery tweak kernel and i go about 15 hours with alot of emails and text as well as internet. Try Ava out with the battery tweak kernel and see how that works for ya ... and make sure u give the kernel a couple of days to settle in..

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Wow, What are you using for a kernel? The most I got with Myns is 14 hours with medium use (texting throughout the day, an hour of calls, 4 hours or so of web, push email/calander). I am using netarchy more havs no sbc. Are you using juicedefender or the like?
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Just whatever kernal came with the rom, #15 I believe. I do use Setcpu, with a fairly aggressive profile to keep cpu speeds down.

Would you all mind linking to the kernel's you are talking about as well as the battery tweak so I can check them out?
Thank you,
Whiteice

using both i can say that myns is a great rom, looks great, but any mikfroyo rom blows it away with speed. Try them out for yourself. Me personally I prefer mikfroyo/kings ultra (mikfroyo based) for the speed factor

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using both i can say that myns is a great rom, looks great, but any mikfroyo rom blows it away with speed. Try them out for yourself. Me personally I prefer mikfroyo/kings ultra (mikfroyo based) for the speed factor
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Couldn't of said it better....mikfroyo all the way
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Most sense based roms have very little diffrence besides themes and minor changes. some remove more then others (which can be done relatively easy if you take a little time to learn what can and cant be removed).
themes you can also change... with a little effort youc an acctually mix and match diffrent elements to get your own theme pretty easily. All standalone sense themes work with all roms of the appropriate version (ie 3.70) so really it depends on what rom is closest to what you want formt he start and how lazy you are .
There used tob e scirpts to remove most of sense, bloatware, and excess crap for you but msot are still update_script and havent switched to update + binary yet.
All in all in my opinion there is no BEST rom. with a little tweaking you can get almost any sense based rom to run and look as well as any other.
As for the guy claiming 30+ hours ... it doesnt count if you dont actually use your phone. dont get excited people only the lightest of use will let you get anywhere close to 30 hours. The average person is going to get between 12-18 hours based on there use and settings on any rom.

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Most sense based roms have very little diffrence besides themes and minor changes. some remove more then others (which can be done relatively easy if you take a little time to learn what can and cant be removed).
themes you can also change... with a little effort youc an acctually mix and match diffrent elements to get your own theme pretty easily. All standalone sense themes work with all roms of the appropriate version (ie 3.70) so really it depends on what rom is closest to what you want formt he start and how lazy you are .
There used tob e scirpts to remove most of sense, bloatware, and excess crap for you but msot are still update_script and havent switched to update + binary yet.
All in all in my opinion there is no BEST rom. with a little tweaking you can get almost any sense based rom to run and look as well as any other.
As for the guy claiming 30+ hours ... it doesnt count if you dont actually use your phone. dont get excited people only the lightest of use will let you get anywhere close to 30 hours. The average person is going to get between 12-18 hours based on there use and settings on any rom.
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gotta disagree with you on that one buddy. for advanced users I do agree but for the average xda member who doesnt know how to zipalign apps and scripts and stuff like that mikfroyo based roms (aside from CM) are the fastest roms. Im not saying in anyway that other roms are inferior, just saying this is a MAJOR speed difference between mikfroyo based vs all others.

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MikFroYo: his rom focuses more on performance than looks. Besides removing bloatware and files we don't use (like language files), he zipaligns all the apks (seemingly a different way each update) and otherwise mods it for speed and stability.
Myn: his rom focuses more on looks than speed. His rom is heavily themed and includes all the extras. It's not too much slower than MikFroyo (some people don't notice a difference, but power users like me do).
Myn's rom has more additional themes and add ons than MikFroYo, but MikFroYo have a few that really rock.
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I think that's about the best, most concise, summary comparing the two. They are both good. Mik's is faster/leaner (IME) and Myn's is prettier (IMO).
The great thing is it is pretty easy to try them both and see for yourself which one you prefer - and then you can still customize the heck out of either one afterward.

Best Custom ROMS & kernels?

Alrighty so I have a friend coming over this weekend with her EVO 4G and I will be doing some level of hacking to it. I want to give her options of ROMS & kernels so can I get some feedback on the best custom Sense ROMS as well as ASOP ROMS plus what the best kernel options are.
As far as I know she has a stock battery so whatever kernel that will give her the best battery life/performance would be great

I might as well say it because this is the reply you're going to get. You should just read threads and try them out until you find one you like. There is no best because many of them are designed to do different things. Only you can choose which functions are most important to you and which Rom matches those functions.

Tough question to ask because it weighs heavily on user preference. My personal favorite rom is Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 using SBC trickel charge kernel. I get fantastic battery life and the rom is as smooth as butter. This is a Sense based rom without all the bloatware that Sprint puts on it. As far as AOSP roms alot of people like CM6 or the CM7 nightlies. I have only tried CM6 and its pretty sexy also but I prefer Myns rom a bit more. Check out Myn and CM6 or CM7 those should be good starting points.

we're just trying to keep the development section clear. i understand this is the most popular section and it's where all the cool and exciting things happen.. but there is an appropriate section for questions and answers, it's called Q&A. there's more people in there willing to help you answer any all questions you have.
that said, don't be surprised is mods come along and move this to Q&A (already would be if I was a mod). so please, I mean this will respect, post in the appropriate sections from now on.

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Tough question to ask because it weighs heavily on user preference. My personal favorite rom is Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 using SBC trickel charge kernel. I get fantastic battery life and the rom is as smooth as butter. This is a Sense based rom without all the bloatware that Sprint puts on it. As far as AOSP roms alot of people like CM6 or the CM7 nightlies. I have only tried CM6 and its pretty sexy also but I prefer Myns rom a bit more. Check out Myn and CM6 or CM7 those should be good starting points.
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I've been eyeing Myn's ROM for my wife's DInc too but she's not as open to me hacking her phone all the time so I may consider that one.
I put a modified version of CM based on Froyo onto my brother-in-law's Eris which worked pretty well too despite that phones lack of horsepower.
Thanks for the recs

well you know, maybe if you read the rules?

JagoX said:
Man talk about a difference in user communities...I never got this type of response in the DInc & DX sections when I posted the *exact* same question in the development sections.
But whatever...as long as the question get answered that is all I care about.
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honestly, you're lucky I came along first.. most people would have flamed you to hell and back. we just like to keep order here to keep a decent noise/information ratio. development threads in development section and question threads in q&a section. it's been this way for me ever since i've joined

As was stated "this lies alot on how each person uses their phone". Me personally prefer the Mikfroyo 4.5 with a Netarchy kernal. You can see what I am using in my signature. Rom is very quick and smooth and battery life is great for me.
"Walk by Faith-not by Sight"

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Agreed on the noise/information ratio. Instead of most of the responses being the typical troll response, they could've either just ignored the thread or sent a request to a mod to have it moved.
But whatever...I do appreciate any responses in general (except the "well maybe you shouldn't root it then" response)
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The problem with the evo's is that they are all soo differently and react so much differently to every rom and kernel respectively. For my MIkfroyo and netarchy's gave me great performance and battery life. the same set up on my friends phone halved his battery life. my top choices are Mik, EVIO, and King's.. they get along best with my phone... as for kernel that is high phone specific, do you want SBC, etc..

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As was stated "this lies alot on how each person uses their phone". Me personally prefer the Mikfroyo 4.5 with a Netarchy kernal. You can see what I am using in my signature. Rom is very quick and smooth and battery life is great for me.
"Walk by Faith-not by Sight"
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Mikfroyo and Netarchy rock my EVO world.

I think I will start a new thread in this sub-forum asking everyone which apps they can't live without.

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The problem with the evo's is that they are all soo differently and react so much differently to every rom and kernel respectively. For my MIkfroyo and netarchy's gave me great performance and battery life. the same set up on my friends phone halved his battery life. my top choices are Mik, EVIO, and King's.. they get along best with my phone... as for kernel that is high phone specific, do you want SBC, etc..
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Well yea I'm aware of that b/c I experienced something similar with the DInc b/c some kernels didn't work as well as others (but did for others.) I know that I *may* have to try different kernels (which I know is easy to change) but with ROMs getting different recommendations does help weed out those that are either junk or dead roms...and ultimately makes my choices easier.

i would download several of the newer roms and try them all my fav right nnow is CM7-GX4 is a nice gingerbread rom but it just depends on your personal taste and needs

also depends on if you want sense or AOSP

I would just show a few screen shots and of MikFroyo, Myn, Ava, EViO, and maybe Koni's Elite. All of those are stable and similar in performance if she's not a really heavy user. I personlly have had the best results/experience with Mik and EViO. For Kernels, try a couple and see which works with her phone (more havs, les havs, no havs, or whatever). I would start with net's latest stable CFS, and go from there if it doesn't play well with her phone.
If she lives in a 4g area or uses HDMI, I would stay away from any AOSP ROMs, since none of them have it either, other than the CM wimax beta. IMO, it's a bad idea to put a beta ROM like that on someones phone if they don't know how to put it there themselves so they can remove it if need be.

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I would just show a few screen shots and of MikFroyo, Myn, Ava, EViO, and maybe Koni's Elite. All of those are stable and similar in performance if she's not a really heavy user. I personlly have had the best results/experience with Mik and EViO. For Kernels, try a couple and see which works with her phone (more havs, les havs, no havs, or whatever). I would start with net's latest stable CFS, and go from there if it doesn't play well with her phone.
If she lives in a 4g area or uses HDMI, I would stay away from any AOSP ROMs, since none of them have it either, other than the CM wimax beta. IMO, it's a bad idea to put a beta ROM like that on someones phone if they don't know how to put it there themselves so they can remove it if need be.
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Ive been doing some research into her options and since 4G is not possible at the moment with CM6, it is officially off the table...kinda bummed about that one
EViO is looking pretty promising as one option however I think Myn's might egg it out simply because of how clean the UI mods are. MikFroyo could be good but I'm not a fan of how just about everything has a gradient on it (that stuff is fugly imho.)
MIUI is looking pretty solid too but since it is a bit of change from the normal flow of Android, I'll have to let her decide based on the videos & then try installing it if she wants to really see it.

If you don't want all the extra stuff, you can try the earlier versions of Mik. 4.2 has a lot of the speed, but none of the theming. It looks a lot more stock.
Also, you can try AvaZ3. It uses a Mik base and is somewhat themed, but still looks clean, can't remember if it has a lot of the gradients you were talking about.
Azrael is also very stable and fast, but I don't think he's going to be updating it anymore. I guess that doesn't matter if she's not going to be changing ROMs often.
EViO is an excellent choice though, when I was on it, it was as fast or faster than most other ROMs while being underclocked. I was on v1.77 and had awesome battery life on the built in kernel. I think with the new version, in order to take advantage of all the features, you need to use Ziggy's latest kernel. I would use the CFS since BFS may or may not play nice with her phone. Also, if you flash EViO, make sure to flash the restore default buttons zip attached to the bottom of the first post or her search button won't work.

For Sense, I really like Calk's EViO 2 series. it is very clean not too many mods and kinks that could break stuff and also has a undervolt script that keeps the battery in check, he is a top Dev.
As for AOSP I dont use CM7 yet as it is still experimental but i recommend either CM6 and especially MIUI coupled with the new SavagedZen kernel, fast, smooth and stable.

Here's a question...besides CM6, what other ROMS have 4G compatibility issues?
Granted I know some phones may be react differently but do certain ROMs play nicer with certain kernels then others?

Give Myn Warm a try
I have been using Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 for several weeks and find that it is fantastic. Stable, smooth, and sexy.

[Q] Looking for a new ROM

Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.

Stickies exist for a reason
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245

Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.

markjc12 said:
Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.
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In that case, the search feature exists for a reason.
**LINK**
Edit: By the way, nobody can tell you what ROM is the best. There are a plethora of ROMs out there. Half the fun of having a rooted phone is to get flash happy with various ROMs. You need to try out different ROM/kernel combinations and find which one has the features you want with the performance and battery sustainability you need. My setup works amazingly well for me. But I've seen people who have the exact same setup and have crap battery life, bugs in their system, or just don't like the UI. It's all user preference. Get flash happy until you find one that works best for you and your style.

for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.

The new FreshEvo 4.3.1 with the standard Freedom kernel has been giving my two Evo's over 12 hours with heavy usage. It runs smooth as "buddah"...
But it is a personal choice. Fresh is a Sense ROM, which may or may not be to your taste.

psiklone said:
for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.
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Really? I love my miui setup. It gets a full day from wake up to time I go to bed. I always thought aosp had better battery than sense. I might give Mikg a shot.
sent from my salvaged miui

markjc12 said:
Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.
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I run synergy with the carousel mod. has great battery life on my hardware and is the best when it comes to getting text/mms on time. I have tried almost every sense rom that has come out in the past 4 months and keep going back to synergy.

The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.

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The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.
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I agree that they are great stuff, I used FEARmede for a while and would still be on it, i just couldnt go without my 4g. If 4g is not a big deal for you then by all means take some of team blazes roms for a ride. Make sure to read the features on all of them, they differ a little from each other.
link to their forum
http://blazing-roms.com/forumdisplay.php/4-EVO-4G

Thank you all for the input and not telling me to search a sticky or that there is this or that for a "reason". You think I havent tried all sorts of ROMs/kernals? I cant tell you how many times I flashed a new ROM/kernal. I was hooked on flashing for a while, damn near had to go to rehab for that shyt. Yes, I know, every phone is different, but I just wanted some first hand advice from my fellow XDA'ers. I really apprecaite the feed back with the replies I got. So thank you all again. Time to get flash happy, woohooo!!!!

try the evo classic v0.0.3 by tommytomatoe one sweet Rom fast as a jackrabbit with a firecracker up his ass and I stay with about 225 RAM with my 7 homesreens full of widgets. and my battery lasts all day I can get 13 or so hrs of screen on time on my 3500 and about 6 or 7 on the stock battery and that's straight screen on almost the entire time cuz I never put my phone down. when I'm not on it all day my 3500 will go 12 plus hrs and be around 75% or so with moderate use but usually I overheat and bootloop b4 my battery dies from playing modern warfare 2 all damn day.