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Microsoft has confirmed at the MIX developers conference that Windows Phone 7 Series will not have copy and paste functionality
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from: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mix10-microsoft-cuts-copy-paste-feature-from-windows-phone-7-series
feels like a retarded joke, after all the heat apple took for not having it, MS must b on crack not to include it ...
Simply drop WP7S ... Stick with WM6.5 or WM6.5.5. Or you can switch to Android with HTC Desire.. F*CK Microsoft with their "It's best for the end-user"
Android here I come
This is so very strange.
So maybe the UI will be a tad better than iPhone, but WHY copy the iPhone on all the BAD stuff?
I'm very dissapointed.
There is no more reason to stick with wimMo after winMo7 is released.
Marked will never become good for the 6.5 because the focus will be on winmo7.
So, Android, here I come.
I think microsoft have lost the plot.
I use copy and paste all the time, in the file explorer and with documents.
If it does not have copy/paste, then it's pretty useless. Will have to stick with 6.5, but if development of apps for 6.5 stops, then i guess android is the way to go.
I prefer an OS to be functional. There are many apps/skins to make it look good.
so dear Microsoft if i get e-mail from some one with text like :
"could you meet Mr. Matheabthukul from the airport"
and then someone else ask: "can you text me the name of the guy you meeting?"
which part of "data-detection service built into the text-handling API" will spell that name in to new text message ?
we could copy stuff on dumbphones years ago, please dont revolutionise things like wormy Apple did, (((WOW u can now copy and past 3 generations of OS it took them... ))) and don't reinvent the wheel...
What is Microsoft smoking in the developers room?
elementary stuff are missing...wtf.
Problem is: ALL comapnies develop what the MARKET demands (= the majority of the users).
The majority is not WE here but the hundred thousands of people that just wanna take their cell-phone outa the box and use it without crashes, listen to music, watch Youtube, take photos and vids and don´t wanna have to do anything with fiddling around in setup menus and accidentally activate or deactivate or delete features.
And since iPhone is the "standard" MS just copies it
WE here are a little minority and MS will never ever listen to OUR demands.
It´s sad, but reality always is ...................
seems like they have been smoking from an apple bong
Unless they also cut multitasking, this OS will not be good enough.
[email protected] said:
What is Microsoft smoking in the developers room?
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i was sure, its illegal to be high at work place...
troed said:
And since iPhone is the "standard"
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even they added Copy&paste to the iPhone
i guess we will have to find the unspeakable: Jailbreaking WM7P and Cydia for WM7 etc...
welcome to hell... this is the beginning of the end for XDA as it is...
i guess after WM7 take off not many Classic WM6.X devices will b out and as they become outdated, what will happen to this place ?
since XDA don't permit Cracking of the soft...
(PS this is only my thoughts, it will probably just turn in to How to Make WM7 a smart-phone again )
I don't see this as a bad thing. It just confirms my belief that:
1) No WP7S upgrade for the HD2 is no big deal
2) My next phone will run Android.
By the way, did I really read that WP7S will not support external SD cards? If so, MS really are building their own mobile coffin.
Until reading this I was looking forward to wm7.
All the apple fans wont know what to do when they have the option of a apple iphone or a windows iphone.
Savage-wp said:
I think microsoft have lost the plot.
I use copy and paste all the time, in the file explorer and with documents.
If it does not have copy/paste, then it's pretty useless. Will have to stick with 6.5, but if development of apps for 6.5 stops, then i guess android is the way to go.
I prefer an OS to be functional. There are many apps/skins to make it look good.
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I think there is a bit of difference between OS copy/paste and text-selection copy/paste. Though from what I understand, the only way to get to an OS copy/paste function is through 'jailbreaking' since filesystem access will be minimized.
Simple: Bill Gates is overtly killing off the WinMo portion of his kingdom, and he's gonna wait for the Obama bailout.
So... Let's just make Android run fine in our HD2, shall we?
Moandal said:
I don't see this as a bad thing. It just confirms my belief that:
1) No WP7S upgrade for the HD2 is no big deal
2) My next phone will run Android.
By the way, did I really read that WP7S will not support external SD cards? If so, MS really are building their own mobile coffin.
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that's right, another extra point to stick on 6.5 or android .
Store counter: Sir, which phone do you want to buy?
Mr. Dude: I want to buy an iPhone please ...
Store counter: Right, which iPhone? Apple iPhone or Windows iPhone 7 Series?
Mr. Dude: Hey, that's new, what's the difference?
Store counter: Apple iPhone has copy paste function, Windows iPhone does not. The rest are the same.
Mr. Dude: Hmm, give me Apple iPhone please ...
tonycosta said:
Until reading this I was looking forward to wm7.
All the apple fans wont know what to do when they have the option of a apple iphone or a windows iphone.
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vladimir2989 said:
so dear Microsoft if i get e-mail from some one with text like :
"could you meet Mr. Matheabthukul from the airport"
and then someone else ask: "can you text me the name of the guy you meeting?"
which part of "data-detection service built into the text-handling API" will spell that name in to new text message ?
we could copy stuff on dumbphones years ago, please dont revolutionise things like wormy Apple did, (((WOW u can now copy and past 3 generations of OS it took them... ))) and don't reinvent the wheel...
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lol thats prolly the funniest thing ive read on this forum
ok thats it...
thats the final straw.
i am a die hard windows mobile guy but this takes the piss.
first no removable storage... then no multi-tasking for third party apps... then only 3 front facing buttons... now this.
there is no way i could ever recommend WP7S to anyone when it hits the streets in its current form.
To me it looks like it will fail bigtime. MS are trying to grab a hold of the normal user base (ie/ everyone that either owns or wants an iPhone)..... unfortunately there is no way in hell that any of those people would ever want a WP7S handset over Apples offering. Why would they? Anyone got a reason? ANYONE?
You must obay Micro$oft.
WP7S is a drones machine. A non-thinking tweeters mp3 player. It is NOT an OS. It is a development environment on top of a locked down OS.
NO API access
NO MicroSD memory
NO 3rd party apps outside appstore (M$ commission made on each app)
I am pro-actively AGAINST WP7S from now on. I can .net c#... maybe I will learn a different language.
Hello Folks,
I just wanted to chime in again to offer an "offending viewpoint" about the whole Dell debacle.
I personally think that we are looking at a situation similar to Samsung's here. Keep in mind that both these companies also do business with Microsoft on a much larger front, being desktops and laptops.
At last years MWC, Samsung delcared that it was fed up with WM and wanted to port the whole Omnia series to Symbian. They even showed off an Omnia HD - and gave it all up afterwards.
IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
P.S. Odd example is HP...
I don't really know what you're talking about, and it seems like a goose hunt to find the articles you're referring to. At the same time, I'm interested in what you're trying to say. Mind getting a few links and adding it to your post?
What Dell Debacle?
Why is Samsung so upset at MS, and they released the Omnia II with WM 6.5...it could have easily been Android?
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IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
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I really don't think so...
Spike15 said:
I really don't think so...
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Or the loooonnnngggg and ongoing battles with the EU. OP must've lost his tin foil hat. I guess he missed the fact that in the same batch of leaks also came several Android devices.
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Or the loooonnnngggg and ongoing battles with the EU. OP must've lost his tin foil hat. I guess he missed the fact that in the same batch of leaks also came several Android devices.
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Yea, the leaks did contain several Android devices, but he Lightning really stood out in the bunch. Best design of the 4.
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Yea, the leaks did contain several Android devices, but he Lightning really stood out in the bunch. Best design of the 4.
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So that means Microsoft is violating federal antitrust rules?
TAMHAN said:
Dell debacle
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What the hell are you talking about?
Dell is a good company and we forgot all about their mobile capabilities. These leaks have only made our confidence in Microsoft a touch better. WP7 may suck, but at least it's getting around and people aren't forgetting about it.
Hi,
sorry for the long awayness.
At last year's mobile world congress, Samsung openly stated: we are fed up with WM for consumer, and are moving our consumer series to Symbian. They then anounced an Omnia HD.
A few weeks later, it was renamed to i8910. Samsung's press team never told a good reason -> strange.
Should I look up the relevant articles on my site?
You want to look up your own articles on your own site?
Be my guest.
Hi,
here we go - the original announcement at last year's MWC:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/02/16/samsung-omnia-hd-hands-on/
Then, the renaming announcement:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2009/04/14/samsung-austria-talks-omnia-hd/
Looks strange to me...
Tam
They renamed it because they thought that consumers would get confused - Omnia HD contained the word "Omnia" and therefore buyers would assume they're getting WinMo when they're not. So they renamed it to prevent that confusion from happening.
As for Dell, the Dell Axims were running on WinMo. Then they left it for a while and now they want to release a new phone with WinMo on it. Nothing special or wrong about it.
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They renamed it because they thought that consumers would get confused - Omnia HD contained the word "Omnia" and therefore buyers would assume they're getting WinMo when they're not. So they renamed it to prevent that confusion from happening.
As for Dell, the Dell Axims were running on WinMo. Then they left it for a while and now they want to release a new phone with WinMo on it. Nothing special or wrong about it.
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Sounds very healthy to me...
....wait! No! We have to make a conspiracy out of everything! that's what xda is about now! Forget development!
TAMHAN said:
IMHO, the coincidence is clear - could it be that M$ is using desktop Win pricing? What do you think?
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WP7 license pricing has already been leaked on sevearl blogs (like gizmodo.com)
It's not that expensive and far away from the desktop pricing.
How do people come up with crazy ideas like this?
Hi,
that WM7 is cheap, does not surprise me - I wouldnt want it for free on my XPERIA X1. In fact, I didn't even bother with WM 6.5.
But: then, explain me, why Samsung staff told me that they wanted to rebadge the whole Omnia series to Symbian, and that all future phones would be Symbian based?
Something else: Symbian was founded because Microsoft didn't want to give WIndows CE to Psion for free...another fun detail from the past...
Samsung announced their transition to Symbian when, last year? What did WP7 look like at that time? Why couldn't they change their minds? Also, why aren't you suggesting conspiracies when you see Android and Bada powered Samsung phones?
TAMHAN: You should see if MSMobiles wants an editor.
Goatmaster said:
TAMHAN: You should see if MSMobiles wants an editor.
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LOL. Sooo true.
TAMHAN said:
Something else: Symbian was founded because Microsoft didn't want to give WIndows CE to Psion for free...another fun detail from the past...
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You mean a company that exists to make money off of software didn't want to give software away for free?
Next you'll tell me that Nike isn't standing on the street corners handing out shoes for free!
What is this world coming to!?
Are you the guy who started the 'Elvis has been abducted by aliens' rumours by any chance?
<3 This is pretty funny.
Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
Thanks
Most of your options don't make "sense", so I can't vote!
Whilst it may be possible to port WP7 to the Desire hardware, your first two poll options are to port WP7 to Android which is nonsensical!
Personally, from what I've seen of WP7 so far, there is nothing that makes me want to move away from Android at present, but that doesn't preclude it happening in the future. However, if I did want to move to WP7, I'd almost certainly buy a phone dedicated to it rather than attempt to cobble together something on an Android phone.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi, this is more of a opinion question than a 'question' question. Hopefully the great devs in the forum see this and find a way to port it. Please vote in the poll and if you have an opinion to say please write them. Just respect other members. Your opinions such as "why would you want a port?" Aren't really Nessecary.
Thanks
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even if it was possible, which it's NOT, none of the developers here would do it as its ILLEGAL, we dont own a LICENCE for wp7, it would be no diffrent to distributing PIRATE copy's of windows 7....
indeed, most of us here bought an android device because we wanted to customise our phones or because we got tired and annoyed with other OSes(especially WM, urg...!{yeah, I know I have the HD2, it pisses me off...=.="'}), but if there are any developers porting WP7, I'd like to see it emulated only.
Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Given that Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile, it would probably technically be illegal to run it on an HD2 too, though since you'd have effectively paid some kind of licence fee to MS, they would be more likely to turn a blind eye I guess!
It's by no means certain that it would be any easier though!
Regards,
Dave
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that would be down to microsofts discretion, previously they havent made much of an issue out of us porting newer versions of windows mobile to, older windows mobile devices, and imo i dont think they would start now, ie porting wp7 to the HD2 ect.... but i cant see them sitting back and letting people port wp7 to a device with no microsoft licence all together. they didnt get to be the biggest company in the world by letting things like that slide
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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Oh, I didn't know it was illegal. Guess no one would port it then. But maybe a good emulator would be nice. I wish I had bought a HD2 now...
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sell your android and buy another phone !
philje123 said:
Why would you want to anyway?
Personally I don't even like the look of WP7 interface. Some nice features but it just looks a bit naff to me!
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i watched the wp7 keynote speach yesterday and was quite impressed, the people hub and the office hub both look very impressive, and as an xbox live gamer, the games hub looks awsome things i dont like about it are, it seems more of a feature phone than a smart phone, and like the iphone its very ms orientated, i dont like that, you can use android without even knowing google develop it
Today at my University we had a marquee out the front near the main car park talking about Microsoft Graduates and inside they were showing of Microsoft Surface, Kinect and Windows Phone 7.
It wasn't hard to get a glance, especially considering everyone was mostly interested in the Kinect, I had a play with the Windows Phone 7 handset.
To be honest, I was expecting more, I was really disappointed, there is nothing that it can offer except for flashy transitions and pretty colours. Yes its true that applications will be released to improve the phone's functionality but there is definitely a limit to that because of the current API.
I currently use a HD2 (and I have tried Android on it too) and I don't think anything can quite compete with Windows Mobile 6.5 (or a Jail-broken iPhone - which despite being a huge Apple hater jail-broken iPhones have fantastic functionality).
WP7 has a long way to go until it grabs those hardcore WM5/6 users.
Does anyone know how WP7 handles notifications? Is it similar to iOS? I hope not. Android nailed it with their notification system, I wish Windows Mobile had something similar.
The menu in which you 'upload to facebook', is it limited? Can developers add functionality to this menu, will you ever see 'post on twitter' or anything like that?
On a positive note, WP7 is smooth, looks great and Internet Explorer is a whole new browser.
(Side note: University of Surrey is broadcasting the Microsoft PDC10 live on Thursday this week and one lucky attendee will win a WP7 Handset)
WP7 notifications are kinda a cross between Android and iPhone. The biggest downside to WP7 notifications is that once it goes away, you can't see it in a list or anything.
Re: "WP7 has a long way to go until it grabs those hardcore WM5/6 users." - I don't think Microsoft has any intention on every going after the "hardcore WM5/6 users." If you're expecting WM6 levels of customizability and openness, switch to Android.
If they're there tomorrow, challenge them on the lack of file system management
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If they're there tomorrow, challenge them on the lack of file system management
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lol because some random Microsoft PR person is to blame for the engineering, design, and management decision to leave out a file manager.
RustyGrom said:
lol because some random Microsoft PR person is to blame for the engineering, design, and management decision to leave out a file manager.
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lol... fair point, but there is a small chance they may just tell their manager, who may just tell their manager, who may just tell their manager, who may just tell Steve Balmer.
To be honest, we wouldn't have this frustration if Microsoft just had some forum where they would take developers input seriously
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lol... fair point, but there is a small chance they may just tell their manager, who may just tell their manager, who may just tell their manager, who may just tell Steve Balmer.
To be honest, we wouldn't have this frustration if Microsoft just had some forum where they would take developers input seriously
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If you have legit developer feedback, you can post it on the forums at create.msdn.com. However, complaining about a lack of open file system support will pretty much fall on deaf ears as it's pretty much a done decision. The most we can expect to see in the future is some sort of a shared folder. Isolated storage is here to stay.
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If you have legit developer feedback, you can post it on the forums at create.msdn.com. However, complaining about a lack of open file system support will pretty much fall on deaf ears as it's pretty much a done decision. The most we can expect to see in the future is some sort of a shared folder. Isolated storage is here to stay.
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Well, all it needs is a shared folder. A sand boxed area (excluded from the OS and application files) where a user can manage their files, and third party apps can access those managed files if required.
I've made this suggestion. I still seem to get largely ignored. I get the impression that Microsoft developers are too afraid to think outside the box. They all seem to agree with each other all the time as if they have either been brainwashed or they're just afraid they'll loose their jobs if they speak up.
Nah it's pretty much awesome
I also used WP7 the first time today - and it's AWESOME!!!
Don't listen to this guy (no offense )
I think everyone here saw the videos of Walkthroughs etc, so I don't know how you can get disappointed by using it.
It's exactly what you saw, just quadrippel times more awesome, cause you actually see it for real and touch it yourself
A Vodafone store had a LG Optimus 7 and I played with it for half an hour.
I just can't wait till the Omnia 7 finally arrives here in Germany. I'll definitly buy that and hopefully be happy with it
No offence taken, but its not what I'd call awesome.
Thanks everyone for their responses, as for your advice for using Android (RustyGrom), I really want to start using it as a full time OS and probably when my contract ends very shortly, Android will probably be the way to go because I don't see WP7 adding its short-list of lacking features anytime soon.
Does that also mean, perhaps if you modified an image in one program, you couldn't edit it from another? Does each application really have its own restricted space?
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No offence taken, but its not what I'd call awesome.
Thanks everyone for their responses, as for your advice for using Android (RustyGrom), I really want to start using it as a full time OS and probably when my contract ends very shortly, Android will probably be the way to go because I don't see WP7 adding its short-list of lacking features anytime soon.
Does that also mean, perhaps if you modified an image in one program, you couldn't edit it from another? Does each application really have its own restricted space?
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yes, each application has its own restricted space. The only exception to this rule are images and videos (I think).
I know all your images are kept in one common place, and apps can use a hook they've provided in the api to load images from this place.
Any other app you can think of that would require side loading of files, would not work.
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Well, all it needs is a shared folder. A sand boxed area (excluded from the OS and application files) where a user can manage their files, and third party apps can access those managed files if required.
I've made this suggestion. I still seem to get largely ignored. I get the impression that Microsoft developers are too afraid to think outside the box. They all seem to agree with each other all the time as if they have either been brainwashed or they're just afraid they'll loose their jobs if they speak up.
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That would encourage both sloppy app development and content piracy.
Are YOU a developer?
A platform that indirectly encourages piracy doesn't get first-class support from the industry. Only exception is Windows Mobile, and only because it is compatible with the DRM in e.g. Zune Pass music.
Looks lile so,e people don't take piracy serious enough. It's a huge problem, amd a few users crying about design decisions aided to combat it in a forum are pretty much worth doing it.
Lime Wire was just shut down by a court. The media industry does not play around, and neither does the law.
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What a HUGE disappointment for a UI
Ok, so panes slide around. SO WHAT? The thing as I have seen it in videos looks like a PIECE OF JUNK. Just look at the picture of mine... How can you compare that or any of our WM6.5 phones on this forum to a BLAH screen that has three cubes on it? YECH. Is this is the way they leave it, I think that will be the end of WM. Just wait another year and there will be so few buyers of the WM7 phones they will be discontinued.
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I currently use a HD2 (and I have tried Android on it too) and I don't think anything can quite compete with Windows Mobile 6.5 (or a Jail-broken iPhone - which despite being a huge Apple hater jail-broken iPhones have fantastic functionality).
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U got to be kidding me ... lol when i had the hd2 running windows 6.5 i wanted to kill myself...no way u comparing wp7 with crappy w 6.5
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U got to be kidding me ... lol when i had the hd2 running windows 6.5 i wanted to kill myself...no way u comparing wp7 with crappy w 6.5
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Lol exactly
ajftl said:
U got to be kidding me ... lol when i had the hd2 running windows 6.5 i wanted to kill myself...no way u comparing wp7 with crappy w 6.5
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Oh yeah?! So try to copy internet link and send it to your friend by sms.
Retard.
Although I understand why WP8 will not be compatible with existing devices, the bad PR is not exactly helping Microsoft/Nokia. The consolation prize of WP7.8 is not enough to dispel the Osborne Effect that is very likely to occur between now and the time WP8 devices are released.
So let's use this topic to suggest some damage control possibilities based on what's happening NOW, not what Microsoft coulda/shoulda/woulda done (there are plenty of other topics covering the latter).
I think Microsoft/Nokia/carriers should have a trade-in program: trade in a WP7 device for credit off of a new WP8 device. Depending on the trade-in amount, it may or may not stop the bleeding from the Osborne-inflicted wounds, though.
Any other suggestions?
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I think Microsoft/Nokia/carriers should have a trade-in program: trade in a WP7 device for credit off of a new WP8 device.
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Why? They gave you a Lumia 900 or free. What more do you want?
An expansion of the "Registered Enthusiasts" program that would give us carrier locked stock images of a stripped down WP8 build or a $100 credit from Microsoft upon request.
sitizenx said:
Why? They gave you a Lumia 900 or free. What more do you want?
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Aside from the word "you" in the second sentence, good point. Many people got the Lumia 900 for free with contract, so it's not like they're being totally shafted.
Other suggestions or rebuttals? Keep in mind that the PR is still bad, and people are not exactly thinking "well, I got a free phone, I should be grateful." They're thinking "OMG, M$ jus skrewd mez!"
Look at the big picture.
The market share wasn't going to get any bigger in the next 3 to 5 months, especially with no new flash ship devices on the horizon.
With Windows 8 and this kernel, there will be a surge of developers. Tons of amazing apps, the market share will explode.
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I think they should stop talking to us as if we're retarded. Just that. Come clean and say "we're not updating you to WP8 because we don't want to". Enough with the "kernel re-write" stuff, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying you can't run Windows 8 on a Windows XP PC with enough power to run it because it has a different kernel.
I think trade in is the way forward. Based on IMEI they would know what phones were sold free, subsidized or full price. Pay the trade in value accordingly.
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I am thinking along the lines of put as many goodies in the WP7.8 build and that way the consumers get a taste of the new OS and then go out and buy a new WP8, Not far from what's already in the pipeline I know but just exactly the way I would now treat this situation, Not everyone will be happy, But then again when is everyone ever happy
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I think they should stop talking to us as if we're retarded. Just that. Come clean and say "we're not updating you to WP8 because we don't want to". Enough with the "kernel re-write" stuff, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying you can't run Windows 8 on a Windows XP PC with enough power to run it because it has a different kernel.
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A better analogy would be comparing Windows 9x (95/98/Millennium) with NT (2000/XP/Vista/7/8). Those have different kernels, but can run on the same x86 processors.
Either way, your point has merit. Windows RT is being written for ARM architecture...why not Windows Phone 8? One possibility could be that current hardware is just too dang slow, and we could have another early-gen Android-like situation, where single-core Android phones that aren't optimized (i.e.: rooted, Wi-Fi turned off, kill unused background apps, etc) run slow.
If the problem is more of a political/financial one, rather than a technical one, then I'm sure the fine cooks here at XDA will eventually come up with a way to run a Windows Phone 8 ROM on existing hardware.
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I am thinking along the lines of put as many goodies in the WP7.8 build and that way the consumers get a taste of the new OS and then go out and buy a new WP8, Not far from what's already in the pipeline I know but just exactly the way I would now treat this situation, Not everyone will be happy, But then again when is everyone ever happy
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Hopefully they release a complete list of updates to be put in Windows Phone 7.8, if for no other reason than to try and pacify the masses.
...of course this is assuming that the complete list consists of more than just the WP8 UI update...
vetvito said:
Look at the big picture.
The market share wasn't going to get any bigger in the next 3 to 5 months, especially with no new flash ship devices on the horizon.
With Windows 8 and this kernel, there will be a surge of developers. Tons of amazing apps, the market share will explode.
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True, but I wonder if Nokia can afford to wait that long...
The start screen isn't the only update in 7.8; its just the only one we KNOW about. Microsoft didn't completely release WP7.8 to the public because they aren't done with it. So don't jump to conclusions because you might just be happy with what's in the update.
If the problem is more of a political/financial one, rather than a technical one, then I'm sure the fine cooks here at XDA will eventually come up with a way to run a Windows Phone 8 ROM on existing hardware.
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Hoping that the current hardware will work on 8... but they could throw all the hardware under the bus... as we saw from 6.x to 7.
Other than us 'enthusiasts', does the casual phone user really care whether their 900 will work with WP8 (other than the availability - or lack therof - of apps)?
The fact that none of the 6.x programs will work on 7 tells you that usoft is in it for the long haul (either that, or they made a SERIOUS miscalculation)! I know... it's a total re-vamp of the software.. had to do it... is 8 going to be as drastic of a change?
At least they are saying 'WP7 programs might have to have a 'minor' tweak' to run on 8... will give WP7 users some hope.
(I'm on the edge of getting a 900 (still running my tilt 2), but I'm not happy about some of the aps that I use on the t2 aren't available for WP7). The developers say 'they are looking into it'...
Tim
Nokia has done trade-ins before. I remember them doing it for at least the last 2 years.
At least this would be an option for those are complaining that they are stuck with the same phone for the remaining of their contract. Plus, it would help generate some momentum when the new devices are introduced. Microsoft is going to need to WP8 users right away and cannot wait multiple years to reach 2%. So give people who were loyal a discount when the phones are launched.
Microsoft, Nokia, and others could very well do nothing like when WP7 replaced Windows Mobile. We also know that there were large numbers of people who left permanently when this happened.
eeeelliott said:
The start screen isn't the only update in 7.8; its just the only one we KNOW about. Microsoft didn't completely release WP7.8 to the public because they aren't done with it. So don't jump to conclusions because you might just be happy with what's in the update.
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Actually, Microsoft have apparently said that WP7.8 is the start screen only. See links below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLEB8CC228C5239441&v=fTNHgfy7lY8&feature=player_detailpage#t=5052s
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windowsphone75/windows-phone-78-preview-143476
tim051 said:
The fact that none of the 6.x programs will work on 7 tells you that usoft is in it for the long haul (either that, or they made a SERIOUS miscalculation)! I know... it's a total re-vamp of the software.. had to do it... is 8 going to be as drastic of a change?
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No. WP7 programs will still work on WP8.
tim051 said:
Hoping that the current hardware will work on 8... but they could throw all the hardware under the bus... as we saw from 6.x to 7.
Other than us 'enthusiasts', does the casual phone user really care whether their 900 will work with WP8 (other than the availability - or lack therof - of apps)?
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No.