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Windows Mobile 7 Series - On Rhodium??

I just seen a demo/preview of the Windows 7 Mobile Operating System and I must say it looks very nice (take a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo)
I am curious if it could be used on the TP2/Tilt2 devices once its release in November?? If so, I am very excited.
Does anyone have any insight on this??
Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611052

Until we can get a working version of 7 Series, I find this discussion pointless.
All we know is from one conference, and a bunch of videos demoing it.
From what we were told at the recent conference:
- Needs capacitative screen for multi-touch with at least four points of touch
- Needs 1Ghz processor or equivalent (the demo device had a Snapdragon)
- Accelerometer
- 5-mega-pixel camera
- FM Radio
- WVGA screen (480×800 not mentioned as a requirement, only WVGA)
- Every phone will have a Bing (search) button, Start button, and a back button.
What the Touch Pro2 is lacking:
- The 1Ghz speed
- Capacitative screen
- 5-mega-pixel camera
My guess is that it will not be a complete rewrite as history has shown time and time again. The restive screen code might still be there for some smart person to re-enable but I highly doubt that all the features of the OS will work through resistive. Also the screen size has not been listed as a requirement, only WVGA was stated. I know all current WVGA devices have a resolution of 480x800 but higher resolutions exist on paper. So at 480x800, is that enough?
My final thoughts: many will try but the screen and over all speed will be a major issue to deal with. If it does get ported to the TP2, the over all experience will be poor enough to fall back to a 6 Series OS.

i dont think it will be well received. it doesnt look like it runs any current windows mobile apps.

From looking at that youtube vid who cares if you can run it on a TP2! Why would I want to ?
Not very impressive. What's the bet it's the same old thing with a different gui ?

dik23 said:
From looking at that youtube vid who cares if you can run it on a TP2! Why would I want to ?
Not very impressive. What's the bet it's the same old thing with a different gui ?
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I couldn't help watching it and thinking "I don't see anything yet that I'm willing to pay $600 for." It looks nice, but I say wait and see how Microsoft turns it into a pile of crap...

Hey, maybe it'll come with glasses and be in 3D. Seems unlikely though.
If you want to make money short Microsoft (IMO)

I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever

I doubt very much that Windows Phone 7 Series will come to any older devices excpet for possibly the HTC HD2.
A big part is it requires a GPU for the animation, and unless WP7S has drivers for the TP2 (if the GPU is even good enough) your not gonna get anywhere.
Also Capacitive will be a stumbling block. There will be plenty of new phones out that will run it very well. So it will be a perfect time to upgrade to a CPU that is atleast 1Ghz.

sirphunkee said:
I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever
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What the hell are you expecting, really?

rorytmeadows said:
What the hell are you expecting, really?
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multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)

sirphunkee said:
multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)
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Oh yes! I was hoping I could have an iPhone while staying loyal to MS!

MCbrian said:
Oh yes! I was hoping I could have an iPhone while staying loyal to MS!
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As you've seen, Redmond anticipated your wish, and officially granted it a few days ago lol.
I should probably state my position on this a little better than I first did:
While I don't argue that this new OS is indeed advanced (perhaps even revolutionary), and seems quite capable at what it does...I still feel strongly that this is not the spiritual successor to the current evolutionary path of the windows mobile platform. I know that's why they played semantics with the marketing name, tagging it with the "7" as if it was the next logical step from 6.5...when in reality it's only a timely branding tie-in to the success of the desktop 7.
Let me put it this way...if the desktop 7 had been a flop, they would have called this new gadget The ZunePhone, because it's that much more than it is WinMo7.
Can I see a show of hands for who else is seriously concerned that what we love most about WM is not likely to be around for very much longer...? I know there's been remarks made that 6.5+ will still be supported, developed for, etc...but until I see some confirmed roadmaps and such, I still think the natural life expectancy of my platform of choice looks a lot more finite than it did a little over a week ago.
EDIT: Right after I wrote that, I found some news that makes me feel a little better about some of this

sirphunkee said:
EDIT: Right after I wrote that, I found some news that makes me feel a little better about some of this
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"Windows Phone Classic" Well...better than nothing.

MCbrian said:
"Windows Phone Classic" Well...better than nothing.
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Yes, we're now like the AM radio of the mobile phone world.
"Doesn't gramps still have his Windows Phone Classic..phone?" "Yeah he keeps it in the box under his bed with his baseball cards and war medals"

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Yes, we're now like the AM radio of the mobile phone world.
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Actually, I'm old enough to think of a different comparison:
Years ago Coke came out with "New Coke" with a new taste -- more like Pepsi...and the backlash was so strong that they had to bring back the original recipe as "Coke Classic" in parallel with New Coke.
Unfortunately, I think MS is trying to attract the majority of potential customers who don't [think they] like WM...so they're coming out with something that's not WM.

sirphunkee said:
I have to say I'm 309% underwhelmed by what I've seen so far of this new ZunePho.....uh, "Windows Series Mobile 7 Set Phone Type...7" wtf ever
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im more excited about getting android on my phone.
what was the point of the windows mobile marketplace and 6.5.x and all that if they where going to ditch everything about windows mobile and start a new? (remind anyone of palm?)

rorytmeadows said:
What the hell are you expecting, really?
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Yeah, I suppose expecting innovation from a massive dinosaur like MS is asking a bit much.

dik23 said:
Yeah, I suppose expecting innovation from a massive dinosaur like MS is asking a bit much.
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What would innovation be? If you want phones with simple interfaces, macforums.com can accommodate your needs.
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multitasking
(next we're going to find out there's no copy + paste either)
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I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to do this, from what I've read already. Plus, think about what you mean when it comes to multitasking because it means different things to different people.

STOP BELIEVING things that have no evidence behind them.
MS has NOT said that multitasking won't exist.
MS has NOT said that backwards compatibility won't exist.
MS has NOT said much more than the little said earlier this week. Stop believe what WMexperts has told you, it turns out MS was just taking you for a ride with those rumors.
Stop being an idiot and wait and see what happens when it comes to the release date.
You guys are basing your opinions on what you saw 8 months before the actual release of the product. THINK ABOUT IT. Just because your dumbass thinks this and that about a premature product, doesn't mean anything. STOP jumping to conclusions. It's really making you look dumb. MS is not going to sit there demoing a new product and talk about copy and paste. Why would they? Ohhhh, because SOOOOOO many people care about that in the world. I appreciate copy and paste and backwards compatibility just as everyone else does, but the truth of the matter is, you just don't know anything about Windows Phone 7.

CES 2011 A Bust For Windows Phone 7?

I decided to share this commentary here from my WP7 fansite http://www.L337ware.com because I wanted to see how you all felt about the subject and honestly my site doesn't get alot of traffic being a homegrown effort.
"First off I have to admit I may be a victim of my own self imposed hype. Now that I got that out of the way I can’t help being a little bit dissapointed at the Windows Phone 7 news coming out of CES 2011. For example where is the promise of new blockbuster applications such as Pandora, Skype, Hulu, and many more key fixtures available of other platforms? How bout some cool new phones to compete with the flood of amazing Android powered hardware on the way? Maybe some new XBox live features like voice support? Instead we get the somewhat creepy rantings from the queen of the butterfly cult and a lackluster list of future game titles. I don’t really need it to justify my purchase but while Microsoft was all over Kinect sales numbers they seem to shy away from talking about the market performance of their now heavily discounted Windows Phones. Honestly most people are well aware of the features of the more immediate update but talking more about the plans for the later half of the year would have giving early adopters quite a bit of comfort. I’m a pretty avid fan of Microsoft and their products but even I can’t help feeling slightly underwhelmed. While I know Microsoft is in this for the long haul and have seen many times how quickly they can refocus a brand to please it’s users I have to say that CES 2011 is not really get me excited for Windows Phone 7."

L337Ware said:
I don’t really need tit to justify my purchase...
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If I'm at a strip club, I need tit to justify my purchase

i like your site! if i can remember , i'll read it!

zukа said:
If I'm at a strip club, I need tit to justify my purchase
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Thank you so much for catching the random tit. Now that we all know what thoughts I'm surpressing while i'm on the internet we can carry on with our evening.

good thing i didnt jump on the wp7 at first site. i rather had wait to see how the developers would or would not embrace it. also the current phones seem to be outdated after reading the new android phones show cased at ces. the dell venue pro did peak my interest for its portrait slider and large screen but i wanted a front facing camera also. guess ill have to keep waiting for the next best thing
yes no new news for wp7 at ces was dissapointing. they did seem to avoid talking about their phones

c_legaspi said:
good thing i didnt jump on the wp7 at first site. i rather had wait to see how the developers would or would not embrace it. also the current phones seem to be outdated after reading the new android phones show cased at ces. the dell venue pro did peak my interest for its portrait slider and large screen but i wanted a front facing camera also. guess ill have to keep waiting for the next best thing
yes no new news for wp7 at ces was dissapointing. they did seem to avoid talking about their phones
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Honestly passed the geek **** fight that occurs when we start talking about our toys the Windows Phone has been a great experience so while I won't try to change your mind I will say it's been one of the most comfortable platforms I've used for a mobile device in my lifetime. I have no regrets from picking it up over iOS or Android but like a greedy child I want more and I want it from Microsoft yesterday.

zukа said:
If I'm at a strip club, I need tit to justify my purchase
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ok, LMFAO...heh
That was good...anyway back on topic..
As quoted here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10393777#post10393777
Maybe we are waiting for the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th for new models to hit ?
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Nothing really new.
When an MS rep was questioned, he did say something like (I'm paraphrasing), "We're saving some news for a later date. Only if there was an event coming up dedicated to mobile devices in Barcelona, Spain where we could talk about this..."
Making a not so thinly veiled reference to the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th.
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Another site for my favs...I'll read it as long as it's updated

Nice site. If you need any casual contributers, give me a holler.

Reflexx1 said:
Nice site. If you need any casual contributers, give me a holler.
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I may definately take you up on that. It's a bit daunting doing all of this by myself and the few Android users I have now as casual contributors act like they will get struck with lightening if they post anything productive on the site.

L337Ware said:
... we get the somewhat creepy rantings from the queen of the butterfly cult and a lackluster list of future game titles.."
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sad but true they need to pick up the pace and satisfy us, their community and costumers. Both the iOS and Android, their competitors, are growing really fast, adding a lot more for our beloved WP7 to catch up with

heh
now that I've cooled down from the shock I can say that most of us put too much of expectation into yesterday announcement, and when it not satisfy our needs most of us (like me) felt like being cheated or thrown out
as for the new models, I just really don't think that it would make difference, since what we want is the change in software, not a 4.5" with Tigra and half-day battery to go along with it

i really like the l337ware site, definitely one for the bookmarks

hassler said:
as for the new models, I just really don't think that it would make difference, since what we want is the change in software, not a 4.5" with Tigra and half-day battery to go along with it
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Says who ??? Out of all the specs of ALL the WP7 phones, nothing is like WOW. Really, everything on every model has been done already by another maker or platform. I don't think anyone wants a 4.5" display, unless it's a tablet, it does not fit in the pocket too well. MS needs a show stopper, a really HOT WP7 phones, they don't have one. There is nice phones don't get me wrong but, no WOW phones.
I can honestly say CES had some Android phones that were faster and nicer displays, still not WOW but, a very strong Hmmmm. If they were WP7 models, I might get a happy about them.
Still dreaming for a Verizon WP7 phone...and not the Trophy

Agreed. Wp7 still doesn't have a superphone that can compete with you-know-iWho.

i am not sure what ppl were hoping from the CES and microsoft, WP7 was just launched in Oct 2010 and we are still waiting for the first update... adding on new things to the OS before the update will be not a wise thing to do...
come on guys this is CES not Mobile world Forum, and i hope some of you were not hoping for more hardware to be launched 3 months after the initial launch of the OS and 6 devices..
i was only hoping for the update date or week only... any way MS was tight liped with the WP7 and i think they will be tight liped for the update as well...

Here's a bit more info extracted by mobilitydigest:
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-updates-from-ces-2011/

efjay said:
Here's a bit more info extracted by mobilitydigest:
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-updates-from-ces-2011/
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The indecision on the Skydrive stuff is beginning to p*ss me off.

Well I have to say, that it's probably better off to wait for the MWC in February for phone news, I will wait for that to see whether I should wait for some decent spec'd wp7 devices, or just jump on the android ship.

WP7 is impressive OS but there is no killer WP7 device on the market. Dell Venur pro is one worth buying but I don't like its portrait keyboard. I'll wait for Nokia WP7 phone later this year.

adesonic said:
The indecision on the Skydrive stuff is beginning to p*ss me off.
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Well me too.....

Any Android sucks logo's I can use as forum signature?

Hey guys, I've been looking everywhere on XDA and on bing but cannot find any forum icons or signatures to use. I'm looking for broken android robots or something to show that I can't stand android. Since this is the WP forum, obviously I'm all for WP and would love to see a windows logo eating the android robot or something. I don't care I just want to find something to represent my opinion on this. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate it. I've been searching all yesterday, late last night and all today but still have found nothing.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions, thankyou very much.

Doubt it, most of us aren't so petty.

Here's a good one
http://www.technorotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/pipi-android_t.jpg
Here's another

Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke

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Lol. Gtfo this Forum. Don't talk sh... like that on a forum which is especially designed for android.
Galaxy GT-I9000 spoke
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What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php

I like android too..
I don't understand being a fanboy.
The only os I don't personally like is ios, because it's boring imo.

jessenic said:
What forum are you talking about? Xda was originally a Windows Mobile forum (PocketPC) http://web.archive.org/web/20060508163548/http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php
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In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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I disagree. Microsoft naturally progressed into quality. Winmo made a great PDA but it, like android, simply didn't make for a good phone. Wp7 chose user experience. Android chose pocket PC.

MartyLK said:
In a sense, Android is everything WinMo could have and should have been. Android is like a perfected and fully supported WinMo. Where MS was lazy or lackluster about fostering WinMo, Google is doing the opposite with Android.
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While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted choosing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...

jessenic said:
While true, I have to admit that I have never seen a WM/PocketPC device. First mobile windows OS I saw was WP7 in a local store, loved it and bought the omnia 7. The salesman tried to tell me that android is better and tried to sell me a galaxy s, almost bought it but then it crashed while he was showing it... Haven't regretted chooesing wp7 over android. I know some android fanboys who have jumped over to wp7 after seeing my omnia 7...
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LOL...I had a similar experience when I took my HTC Inspire to a local AT&T to have them look at a compass issue. The lady serving me owned an Inspire and attempted to install a compass from the market to see if her Inspire would do what mine was doing. She couldn't do it because her Inspire froze up while trying to install a compass and she had to borrow someone else's Inspire.
WP7 is the sweet one, for sure. To me it's a work of art. But I can't wait for MS to get behind it like they did with the XBOX and like Google does with Android. If and when MS does that, the competition will quake and shiver in fear.

Android isn't the problem....it's the certain fandroids that ruin it...

How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.

z33dev33l said:
How is google behind android? It's a half-assed ad platform.
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if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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Same here. I even still like WinMo. Just wish there was better app support for it.

scoobysnacks said:
if they weren't it wouldn't be developing so quickly..
Ics actually looks awesome imo.
I just like phones, I don't get into the pissing match bs
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nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.

I'm with the others—don't be petty, to each his own, yada yada.
That said, I just had to look for the images anyway.

z33dev33l said:
nor do I, I don't see it developing quickly. Gingerbread brought little more than a pallet swap, the last truly big update was eclair, and ICS still lags like crazy even on the flagship.
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what? No it doesn't...
Obviously you didn't try it.
I don't understand making up bs just to try to make your opinion valid.
Sounds like n8ter...
Ics included hardware acceleration which was a huge step imo

ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish

z33dev33l said:
ICS doesnt include hardware acceleration outside of the browser. That was a rumor that originated here on XDA. Compared to the competitors it's downright sluggish
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yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol

scoobysnacks said:
yes it does..
I dunno where you get your info lol
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That's cool. Like I say, Google stands behind Android and supports it. People like Steve Woz and that WP7 dude who left for Google know where the progress is being made. Interesting times.

Microsoft released WP8 details

Hi
I'm going to say the WP8 details.
1.No Wifi Because of copyright law
2.No Bluetooth Because of copyright law
3.No File Explorer Because of copyright law
4.No Sync with PC Because of copyright law
5.No Ringtone Because you download them and Ignoring the copyright law
6.No Internet Because you will Ignore the copyright law
7.No Camera Because you can shot something somewhere that ignore the copyright law
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1000.No LCD Because you see something on other phone and ignore the copyright law
1001.No OS Because you can copy somethings from Our OS and ignore the copyright law
1002.No Handset Because you will Ignore All of the above
if somethings released from MS I will add here.
do not forget THANKS.

I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.

Tempest790 said:
I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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Why so serious? I found it rather amusing.

Panties in a tissy in 3,2,1.....

Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..

This is simply Flame Bait, could someone please close it down or change the title to something more fitting.

Twistedme said:
Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..
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your sword of satire is sharp and dangerous !
lol

They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.

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They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.
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From it's flamebait beginnings, this has become probably the most amusing (and in a n ironic sense, the most factually accurate) thread on the entirety of the WP7 section.

hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.

Everyone must have capacity to hear opposite ideas.
If everyone tried to spend her/his energy to press THANKS button it was more effective for all of us.
Thanks for understanding

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hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
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Actually, I don't understand
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arses said:
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
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There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")

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There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")
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Totally Agree! XD

arses said:
hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
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Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??

sure haven't said:
Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??
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Not really. My experience with WinMo is quite good. In fact, I would say WinMo can be smoother and faster than Android. But there are things a person has to do first. The foundation of a good mobile OS is there in WinMo. It's just that MS didn't support it like they should have. MS didn't work out the bugs and finesse WinMo to the level it could be.
I've reinstalled WinMo on my HD2 and have been surprised how well is can be compared to Android. But I'm using a custom version and the dev clearly was able to bring out the best in WinMo. Anyone experiencing lagginess and slowness hasn't attempted to remedy it with the available fixes.

Outstanding! The crit'ters love WP7

According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html

MartyLK said:
According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html
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This is a very very interesting read, well written too! What impressed me more is the fact that they have acknowledged that starting and OS from the start is what Windows Phone 7 is. Unlike others who bash the OS saying 'yeah but they had windows mobile since 10-12 years'!
They've acknowledged the fact that yes the money and customers they made pre-iPhone for 7 years or so were awesome! They decided to fight back iPhone just within a year, but thought windows mobile wasn't good enough with what they were facing. Thus, a drastic re-write of the whole freaking OS! This to me is an inspirational and bold move from a business that thought, we can afford to risk our time and money and let Google come along, give something as ordinary as iPhone but when we go out there, we will produce something extra ordinary. This is exactly what they made money from when they made windows mobile! - something extra ordinary for that era. I think with new design, new idea, new way to present info - they have actually proved a point saying "A decade of experience is much more than one Steve Jobs, but we have to prove it and here is how we do it!".
Thanks for the share!

Critics love it but consumers have no idea what it is.
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karan1203 said:
Critics love it but consumers have no idea what it is.
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And THAT is the problem!
I spent the morning with a client of mine. We were doing work on her laptop. She's got the Motorola Droid. It's laggy and freezes up ALL of the time. She has absolutely no idea how to use the device or what can be done with it. A few months ago, I showed her the Business Calendar app, but she just doesn't need what Android has to offer.
I've been showing her my HD2 with the BTTF WP7 ROM on it. I explained how the OS gently takes your hand and shows you what it can do, whereas Android is akin to sink-or-swim. You either are curious enough to learn how it works, or you're stuck device that you have no idea how to use.
When Verizon launches a few more Windows Phones, I'm going to help her get one.
Since MSFT doesn't do that good of a job getting the OS's name out there, I do my part.

MartyLK said:
According to this news report emanating from the CES showing of Microsoft, the critics love WP7.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/t...-image-has-a-design-gem-in-windows-phone.html
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The linked article isn't a review, or a news "report", but only a click-grabbing headline that makes short gushes of both Joe Belfiore and the history of WP7.
No quote, no reviews, no content, just the NYT playing off of CES for clicks/views