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Accidentaly put rhodium in washer, can it be saved?

I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?

you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.

woeds said:
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.

I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much

Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.

One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.

A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture

Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...

how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it

White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.

dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.

some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.

My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)

The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.

Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.

solsearch said:
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.

Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.

Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/

Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water

IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?

Wet defy (how obvious)

Yo guys!
I just was on vacation and my defy fell in the swimming pool.
So i got it out and it still worked only a red led appeared. After 10 minutes the screen turned off. So i put my defy in rise but it isn't working. Now when I am back I opened my defy and put it in a dry place but when I put the battery back the screen wont start up and I am getting a red light. Still I am 100% sure the motherboard works fine because it starts up and I see the 2nd init bootloader led flashing from blue to green. So does anybody know what I should clean or look at. Otherwise i will flash a stock froyo rom and do a cash wipe/factory reset and sent it to Motorola.
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OK i got some things straight. I opened my defy and found some things.
There is no water left so no shortcuts.
The screen is working!! but the back-light isn't so i cant see **** but its boots up and if i look closely MIUI started up fine. So i guess i should buy a new screen or fix it somehow. The red light is a bug I guess of the battery. I looked a lot on the Internet for the red light and found that a lot of phones show a red led when the battery is broken or something so I will test it at a shop. I guess i cant use my warranty because my case looks awful so i will fix it my self.

Hi,
maybe check if your battery is not completely discharged accidentaly.
I have also heard that the drying process should last a day or more.

MooonWalker said:
Hi,
maybe check if your battery is not completely discharged accidentaly.
I have also heard that the drying process should last a day or more.
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Yea I know but I will wait an other day. Maybe there are just some shortcuts why the screen isn't starting up because it doesn't look damaged at all.

It look like the device is partially damaged when it decided to jump into the pool..
You should had immediately pull out the battery and check throughout of water getting in the device, and let it dry first before your attempting to reboot it.
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farsight73 said:
It look like the device is partially damaged when it decided to jump into the pool..
You should had immediately pull out the battery and check throughout of water getting in the device, and let it dry first before your attempting to reboot it.
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Funny thing is I did. It was dry but after some minutes vapor appeared between the screen and the screen case. then the same vapor appeared by the camera and ... screen turns off.

michka said:
Funny thing is I did. It was dry but after some minutes vapor appeared between the screen and the screen case. then the same vapor appeared by the camera and ... screen turns off.
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Officially (according to IP67) the defy is water resistant up to 1 meteres do not know how deep the pool was? If you do not have warranty anymore you could open it up and let it dry in seperate parts. But if there is vapour under the screen and camera lens i'm affraid more damage is done....

gommers1978 said:
Officially (according to IP67) the defy is water resistant up to 1 meteres do not know how deep the pool was? If you do not have warranty anymore you could open it up and let it dry in seperate parts. But if there is vapour under the screen and camera lens i'm affraid more damage is done....
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I think so to.. I have the warranty maybe motorola can fix something for me.

let us know how it goes, im curious how will they respond ^^ and good luck!

OK i got some things straight. I opened my defy and found some things.
There is no water left so no shortcuts.
The screen is working!! but the back-light isn't so i cant see **** but its boots up and if i look closely MIUI started up fine. So i guess i should buy a new screen or fix it somehow. The red light is a bug I guess of the battery. I looked a lot on the Internet for the red light and found that a lot of phones show a red led when the battery is broken or something so I will test it at a shop. I guess i cant use my warranty because my case looks awful so i will fix it my self.

I did it...
Today i took my defy for a little swim, took it under no more than 10 inches of water, pool, while recording a video to see how it goes, when i got it out after 40 secs, the pone kept recording but when i touch to stop recording the phone started vibrating like if i was pressing any of buttons (home, menu, back and search) and then froze i got scared so i pulled the battery and check for water, but i saw that the lens got moisture so i quickly took it to a bowl with uncook rice and left it there for 3 hours. i then checked it and all the moisture was gone.
When i turned it on it booted like if it didn't had any OS so i left it alone and a while later it loaded fine, but then i noticed the moisture was back on the lens cover, took it back to a new bowl with rice, and it has been there for another 3 hours now but the moisture is showing in te screen also.
What do you guys recomend me to do?
Does the waranty should cover any damage?
P.S: sorry for such a long "Answer" to the thread, but i'm worried and didn't want to spam by opening a new one.
HELP

what i did
my defy got wet, no sceen
1. i remove the battery
2. letting it open
3. put it in my desktop where the hot air is coming out
4. i waited for about an hour
great its back
Take note. if your defy is already old, dont deep it in water

d3athr0w said:
my defy got wet, no sceen
1. i remove the battery
2. letting it open
3. put it in my desktop where the hot air is coming out
4. i waited for about an hour
great its back
Take note. if your defy is already old, dont deep it in water
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Or use rice
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ppero196 said:
Or use rice
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mine allso got wet, and seems that now work's fine but it has no backlight to the lcd and to the soft keys. anybody solved this problem? thx!

ppero196 said:
Or use rice
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Don't thing Rice is going to do more then a paper towel... It doesn't suck any liquid out of gaps or anything. You can try the little ball's that come with clothing. They suck the water out the air so that the water in the phone can vaporize in the air.
But the one's that come with the things you buy will most likely already be saturated.
The best way is to use rubbing alcohol (as high percentage as possible). The alcohol displaces the water but does vaporizes is normal conditions. So you can just submerge your phone in alcohol (with no battery, sim and sd-card ofc. and best only the logic board) and let it dry for some time. This before you try to put it on. This also cleans out most of the salt and sand as this damages you board over time.

Sweat Damage

Hi,
I know there is a lot of information on the Internet about Water Damage, but i can't seem to find out what's going with my device.
Here's what happened: i went for a run with my phone stuck to my arm by a rubber band. When i got home i found that the sweat of my arm had damaged the phone: it didn't want to turn on and the water damage stickers are red. I dried the sweat of the back of the phone with a towel (it wasn't much) and i was able to turn it up for an hour or two and it seemed fined, only the battery indicator was crazy (exclamation mark). I wasn't able to charge my battery as well. The indicator led is crazy as well (when i try to charge my battery it blinks orange, green and so on).
The phone itself seems fine is the battery that cannot charge and seems damaged causing the phone to turn off frequently. What do you think? Should a buy a new battery or a new phone?
(sorry for my bad english)

1: don't run with the phone. Two: try with another battery, the battery seems broken.
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If phone is still damp put it in a bowl of dry rice, it will remove any excess moisture.
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That phone is not designed to be used that way, you should use an external casing that's not connected to your skin and as such less likely to be sweat damaged. (i.e.: belt clip of sort).
The suggestion to place into a jar of rice for a day or two is typically a good way to draw out any moisture, the main thing you DO NOT want to do is attempt to power it on or charge while humidity still exists inside the device.

I bought a new battery and the phone works just fine, only the old battery was damaged. Thanks for the help.

This is more of a question about sweat
I didn't want to make another thread about sweat damage, so i figured I might as well ask here. I have a problem where it seem that my touch screen collects moisture inside my pants pocket. One time at the mall i stood watching a football game for like an hour, when i took out my phone the screen was completely soaked like i gave it a good spray with a spray bottle. I think the problem is that the phone is warm so it causes me to sweat more? Funny thing is I feel warm but it doesn't seem like i was sweating, yet screen still collect alot of moisture.
The phone is working fine, no sign of any water related damage and that incident been about 2 weeks ago. My real question is, anyone got any recommendation as to how to carry my phone to prevent any further water exposure?

Rice Works

For any doubters, here's a story. My Captivate Glide decided to take a little swim in the toilet Friday night (don't ask how or why, because even I don't know), so I dried it off and all the works. I also decided to take part in that rice myth for waterlogged devices. I checked it the next morning, and it still didn't work. So later that afternoon, I was ready to go to the AT&T store and make an insurance claim, and to my extreme delight and surprise, it turned on. Only a couple keys on the keyboard are sticky, but I don't use the keyboard nearly enough to justify a $125 deductible.
So moral of the story is that
A.) the rice myth works
and
B.) the Captivate Glide is one resilient phone!

Keys are sticky? Try wiping them down with lens cleaner ive done that for sticky keys
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Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so

phatryan69 said:
Rice always works butbu need to give it more then one day usally then would boot prlly weird the first time cause might still be moisture on th board the steams off. Even if the keys were "sticky" they would eventually get back t proper working condition.. I took a dive with mine in my pocket down 10 ft of water so
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Hopefully, at least, you took a picture with it, while you were down there.
(Before it died, that is. And auto-saved to sd card, of course.)
From speaking with people who specialize in remediating electronic devices (smoke, water), it seems the single most important thing is to get all forms of power away from the thing as soon as possible.
Including what would be the CMOS battery in a computer.
Apparently it's the (micro?) corrosion between power and water that kills it.
If I had done the dive, I'd be freaking out and ripping the case apart to get at any battery. Probably doing the case in in the process, in my panic.
Good to hear you, and yours, survived. One less thing to live down (if you're married)?
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Rice thing? Pack a dunked device in a bag of rice and leave it for a couple of days? Perhaps with a good fan going nearby? (When my basement flooded, even though only a couple of inches deep, they brought in some industrial fans for several days. Even if the water seems gone, the humidity is still way high, and that's gotta come down, too.)

[Q] Water Damage!

A bottle of water exploded in my bag, and now my tablet looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgi0auae3rtjvyl/IMAG0644.jpg
What can I do to fix this? Open it and wipe it? Bag of rice? It looks really bad.

djbutter said:
A bottle of water exploded in my bag, and now my tablet looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgi0auae3rtjvyl/IMAG0644.jpg
What can I do to fix this? Open it and wipe it? Bag of rice? It looks really bad.
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I had a similar situation wz my sony ericsson mobile, I opened it and let it takes its time to completely dry and then it works just fine .. good luck

Power it off fully, if not already. Open it up, if you can manage (and stomach it). Dry up what water you can (be careful not to damage anything). Do the bag of uncooked rice trick, dry in a warm (not hot) area for a few days if you can. Then try to power on.
When devices are exposed to water, its totally random whether it will work correctly or not. It might function perfectly, it might not work at all, or it might work but some things may be screwed up. Or it might work fine for a while, and then just stop working. It all depends on how much water got inside, where it went, it if caused a short circuit or corrosion inside, etc.
My wife dropped her iPhone 5 in the toilet pretty soon after its release. She put it in a bag of rice, and took it to the Apple Store, where the Genius Bar tech took it apart and dried it as best as they could. Its been working fine ever since.

so i attempted to open it by following instructions i found on this site, only to shatter the screen completely, along with the buttons on the side, and my heart. :crying::crying:
it's now a $400 paperweight.
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Power it off fully, if not already. Open it up, if you can manage (and stomach it). Dry up what water you can (be careful not to damage anything). Do the bag of uncooked rice trick, dry in a warm (not hot) area for a few days if you can. Then try to power on.
When devices are exposed to water, its totally random whether it will work correctly or not. It might function perfectly, it might not work at all, or it might work but some things may be screwed up. Or it might work fine for a while, and then just stop working. It all depends on how much water got inside, where it went, it if caused a short circuit or corrosion inside, etc.
My wife dropped her iPhone 5 in the toilet pretty soon after its release. She put it in a bag of rice, and took it to the Apple Store, where the Genius Bar tech took it apart and dried it as best as they could. Its been working fine ever since.
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djbutter said:
so i attempted to open it by following instructions i found on this site, only to shatter the screen completely, along with the buttons on the side, and my heart. :crying::crying:
it's now a $400 paperweight.
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That really sucks. I'm genuinely sorry for your loss.
Taking apart these devices is not for the faint of heart. Some people can do it like its nothing, but I learned long ago that I'm personally not good at it. You have to be really careful, as you have seen there are a lot of ways to damage the device in the process.
It may have been toast from the water damage anyway. At least you can tell yourself that!

Man, that sucks, but as stated above, that thing was a gonner as soon as it got drenched. It was only a matter of time.

When I have all my electronics charging on my desk sometimes my friends will set a cup of water coffee whatever on that same desk and I look at them like hey man what the he ll move that now. I never let liquid anything near my stuff and actually am paranoid as heck about it. Like I just said. I dont even let them set drinks within 5 feet of any electronic. Im sorry that sucks majorly man the note 8 is the perfect tablet im sorry once again
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Im a technician I fix all kinds of phones now I dont how the lcd/digitizer is, but most if samsungs phones are one peice. Ive been doing fixes for years and samsung are the most difficult screens
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Repair the Screen Damage
Probably Water is under the screen surface. Like the iPhone 5 here. Problem with all non-Waterproof LCD-Devices, lucky S4 AMOLED!
I want to buy a Note 8.0 WiFi+2G+3G+4G too. My Nexus 7 actually had no screen damage even if it was Underwater for about 56 Seconds!
FULL STORY:
(D11.M07.Y2014)I do the Backup to Restore some Lost files with IsoBuster, i wanted to move some Files to the Computer and then all the Non-Root files were somehow NOT THERE... ALL REMOVED AND DELETED! I've been so angry, that i Recorded an Underwater Video with the Nexus 7, it did Survive for 22 Second at 3,4 Metres depth but i could hold my Breath for 56 Seconds - damn, almost a(bout a) minute!
Now, 20143008 the UnderWater Damage is finally Repaired.
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55137471&postcount=1]
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No Water Under (the) Screen.
[QOUTESENTENCE]I still want to have that (super-attractive) Note 8! The Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 WLAN WiFi 2G 3G 4G LTE 32GB was a €460€ dream tablet that time. Now it is only 189 € with my loved Android 4.1.2! (Hint:It would make sence to add the tag „Note 8" to your tàgs.)[/Qu0tesntence]
But The Hardware of the tablet seems still to work.. ...
Trust me, 92% Working Chance:
1.Put the Tablet into a Temperature-Resistant (not Plastic or something that actually melts... ) Container filled with rice. The Container can have a shape of whatever but your Note should fit into it.
So.
First read to avoid misunderstandings:
Put the Container with the Device on a Stove (E·Stove is more Recommended than a Gasstove. But a Gas-Stove will probably work too.)
BUT...
Set the Stove ONLY ON LEVEL 1 ≞ 40°C or 107,024000 °F
wait about 20 hours and see what's happend.
The same trick once repaired my Nokia 6220 Classic before it was NanoCoated (read story below) that i did buy on the release date in July 2008 . Since February 2008 i've been sure to buy the 6220 Classic.
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55223172&postcount=8]
Interresting Story
A (my one) Nanocoated Nokia 6220 Classic Survived since ~²Yrs Underwater, still works! (I switch on every 3 Months or so, battery around 60-70% still left since two years. I expected the Battery to require a charge every 5 Months in rare use cases and Discharges very slowly when not in use, i expected 8 Months with non use!. Now i did turn on the 6220 every all 3 months on and after 2 years, WONDER! STILL AROUND 60-70 % LEFT!) Who the hell made nanocoating? Thank you, whoever you are! I did the same with a solar calculator (eBay.de ArticleNumber: can't remember right now, i'll post if i'm able to.)
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IF THIS (still) DID NOT WORK, THEN try putting your Note 8 into a container with destilazed (destilled; destillized ) Water and try those steps agian. (destilled)
If that again does not Work then try Teslanol Testanolôl (also-called: „isopropyl alcohol", put your device into this liquid for 20·30 seconds and see if it works agaian ... !
This iso-alcohol is about ~99% pure Alcohol but well... it will actually not etch away the hardware and the contacts (not your digital phonebook but the electric physical contancts!)as you probably thought!
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Hannah Stern said:
Iso-Alcohol is made of 99% of Alcohol
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That Iso-Alkohol-Type is 99% Pure alcohol and 1% [destilled] water.
BUT that does not mean, that this alcohol will replace the destilled water.
This „destilled Water", that what i mean in the last recnet post is the 100% pur destilled
„water for clothe flat irons for cloth and so on."
But i said that you're use it for the Note 8.
Just to wash out some dirt out of it.