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Possibly broken defy (from water damage!)

I might have the first defy dead from water damage from what I can find. My defy recently underwent repair for an earpiece problem, where they replaced the entire motherboard, but not the front panel, which was what they did the first time. my defy took a light, probably 10 second dip into a pool, but it ended up taking in alot of moisture from what I can tell.
I removed the battery. I tried shaking out as much water as I could, with a sort of rapid pendulum motion. The water marker on the back of the phone was and still is white. when attempting to boot the phone up (I know, my mistake), I could see water/moisture behind the glass. I removed the battery again and let it sit in some rice in a sealed ziplock bag. Moisture looked gone. The phone just booted to the M logo, and the indicator leds turned on. After a while the screen went black and I think it displayed a red led. I tried lightly blow drying it on low heat to maybe try get more moisture out and then put it back in the bag.
Now, im wondering if my defy is dead. After the quick dip in the pool, the phone still worked and showed no signs of water damage. just dried it off, and stuck it down on a table. When I came back, the phone was off. I thought nothing much of it, and tried rebooting it. this was the first time I saw the phone display the motorola as well as a bunch of leds. After my first drying attempt, it booted back up normal and the phone was functioning 100%, but i still saw moisture behind the screen, so i took the battery out.
Im not sure if my defy is salvageable. the moisture indicator is still white, but im sure there are other signs of moisture inside the phone if I tried sending it off for repair. Im going to try leave it in rice for another day or two, try to get it booted then. If not, I might have the first water damaged defy

Wait for some days or else open up the screws if you are confident with it and dont damage anything just explore something and u will find it out...........BE CONFIDENT
Check whether it boots into recovery

Wont opening the screws void the warranty? I mean, the moisture indicator is still white. I still have the send it in to motorola option.

If your warranty is ok.then go to moto service center or wait for some days till it gets dried...........Water in your screen wont dry up until u clean

If it is still operable, then its ok. Try silica gel instead of rice. Leave it room temp
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Boot IC broken because of water damage!!!!....I lost my defy!!...Its seems it l cost around 3500rs for it to fix that!!

Phone got wet!

Bottom half of my phone was submerged in a drink of water for about 6 seconds. I instantly opened the back, removed battery, and dried off everything from the outside. I popped the battery back in and turned device on. Menu and back don't work, haven't tried plugging it in via USB or made a phone call. You think once water comes out the menu and back will work?
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Ascertion said:
Bottom half of my phone was submerged in a drink of water for about 6 seconds. I instantly opened the back, removed battery, and dried off everything from the outside. I popped the battery back in and turned device on. Menu and back don't work, haven't tried plugging it in via USB or made a phone call. You think once water comes out the menu and back will work?
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You did everything right until you put the battery back in. You should have put in in a bag of rice or ran a blow dyer on low heat. But I've seen plenty of phones come back from water damage. Good luck

Ascertion said:
Bottom half of my phone was submerged in a drink of water for about 6 seconds. I instantly opened the back, removed battery, and dried off everything from the outside. I popped the battery back in and turned device on. Menu and back don't work, haven't tried plugging it in via USB or made a phone call. You think once water comes out the menu and back will work?
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It should work and if it doesn't I guess aokp will be your new best friend
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I used hair dryer on it for 2 hours and it works flawlessly now.

Hair dryer can spread moisture thru the rest of the device and kill it later. Its really simple and safe just to remove the 5 or 6 screws from the back and take off the black olastic. Hit it again with ur blowdryer just to be safe. U will find there is still quite a bit of moisture under it if you do

Don't use the phone for a day or two and toss it in a container of rice. Put it on top of the fridge for a slight bit of warmth and leave it for a day or two. It will pull all of the remaining moisture out of it.

uh next time you should wait a couple days before attempting to turn it on..
there is always a good chance it will work but chances are something will get fried if you are impatient and try to power it on.. water and electricity aren't a good combo if you haven't already noticed so don't turn it ON. no matter how fast you remove it, water still got inside..

Several years ago I dropped my phone into a bucket of water I was about to mix grout in. I did the same thing you did, and the phone miraculously worked. Over the next week though, individual components malfunctioned one-by-one. I eventually had to buy a new phone. Then 2 years ago I got in a hot tub with my blackberry in my pocket. I didn't realize it until my wife sat next to me and I felt it there. I immediately took the battery out, went inside, took it apart as much as I was able to, placed all 3 major parts in a bucket full of rice, & went tech-free for 48 hours. My abstinence from my phone was somewhat brutal, but it worked flawlessly after that until 7 weeks ago - when I elected to upgrade to Android & bought my SGS3.
I'm not saying you'll have the same experience I did with that 1st phone, but I am saying that time, patience, & rice can work miracles when our expensive high-tech devices meet their ultimate kryptonite. It's like Superman orbiting the sun, good as new!
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fishingmedic said:
Don't use the phone for a day or two and toss it in a container of rice. Put it on top of the fridge for a slight bit of warmth and leave it for a day or two. It will pull all of the remaining moisture out of it.
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I've had two phones get submerged, and I can say, step one is always pull battery. Step two should always be leaving it submerged in rice for a minimum of 24 hours. Mine have always come back from the dead and worked.

My phone is working but battery is lasting 1/3rd of it's original life.
Not sure if the water did something to it?

Ascertion said:
My phone is working but battery is lasting 1/3rd of it's original life.
Not sure if the water did something to it?
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It could be the a charging problem.

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It could be the a charging problem.
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It's saying battery fully charged though. Idk what the problem is. I'm getting a replacement battery now.

Actually I'm noticing that my weather isn't working like it should. Maybe that's why battery is draining?
My weather widget says N/A.

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Actually I'm noticing that my weather isn't working like it should. Maybe that's why battery is draining?
My weather widget says N/A.
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I've had some weird issues like that before. Sometimes, the battery wasn't making a good connection to the phone. Try taking the battery out, using an eraser (on a pencil) and cleaning the contacts on the battery and the phone. Also, I've put a little piece of paper folded up on one side of the battery to force the battery to touch the connectors. I'd get a new battery anyway though, just to be safe. They are cheap.

Ascertion said:
Actually I'm noticing that my weather isn't working like it should. Maybe that's why battery is draining?
My weather widget says N/A.
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This happened to me after I updated to LG8 and never started working again. I ended up flashing CM10 because it was broken, clock FC'd every time along with other issues. I don't think this is related to your phone taking a bath.

Dropped in the Toilet!!!

I was washing my face in the morning and the phone was near the sink. When I was leaving the washroom I tried to grab the phone and it slipped through my hands and went inside the toilet. I grabbed it within 2 seconds and gave it a quick dry with towel and turned off. Took out the battery and spen and put it in a rice.
I owned sgs1 and sgs2 for years and no such thing happened but this 1 month old phone just went swimming. Damn!
It has been 24h so far and I will wait another day to try to turn it on. I hope nothing is damaged. I am pretty sure it will work but afraid that something might be damaged such as camera, speaker, vibration or any other small thing. I really don't have any tolerance to have any kind of damage. Hope it will recover just fine. I will let you know tomorrow.
one quick question though, should I close and seal the rice bag tightly or let it aerate?

If I remember correctly it's recommended to place the phone in a bag with uncooked rice. It's suppose to help remove moisture.
You will probably be ok, seeing as you got it out so quickly. The same thing happened to my old Galaxy S2 about a year or two ago and it still working just fine.
My current rule is LID DOWN.

You dont have to seal it as long as its dried well and just let the rice soak up as much moisture as it could. Check the liquid damage indicator (circle litmus paper located just above sim tray) and check if pink or white. Also check the litmus paper on your battery as well since it could also be the battery that may be the problem. I would also highly suggest to go to your nearest Att device support center so they can determine if its your battery or your phone (free service) so you wont have to waste money buying a battery. If they still cant turn it on with another battery then your phone may be kaput.
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Damn man that sucks hope all is ok but I'm sure your warranty is gone
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darktriad said:
You dont have to seal it as long as its dried well and just let the rice soak up as much moisture as it could. Check the liquid damage indicator (circle litmus paper located just above sim tray) and check if pink or white. Also check the litmus paper on your battery as well since it could also be the battery that may be the problem. I would also highly suggest to go to your nearest Att device support center so they can determine if its your battery or your phone (free service) so you wont have to waste money buying a battery. If they still cant turn it on with another battery then your phone may be kaput.
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I also remember quickly seeing something pink near the sim tray and seemed odd to me but I don't know what it that means? When its pink does it mean it took water? which color it should be on a new phone? Also if that indicator changes color is it gonna turn to its original color when its dried?

warfanax said:
I also remember quickly seeing something pink near the sim tray and seemed odd to me but I don't know what it that means? When its pink does it mean it took water? which color it should be on a new phone? Also if that indicator changes color is it gonna turn to its original color when its dried?
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Yes that's the liquid damage indicator. If moisture gets in contact with that litmus paper, it'll turn pink and that'll be an indicator for the service technicians or warranty services to determine if it's out of warranty. On new phones, the litmus paper will stay white and won't ever turn back to white once it has been in contact with water. Since now that you know it's pink, it doesn't always mean or show how much your phone has been affected by water and that's why I suggested that you take it up with the AT&T Device Support Center to see if they can at least replace the battery (if that works).
Go to this website to check where the nearest location is (www.att.com/dsc). Otherwise, you can call Warranty Services (operated by AT&T as well) through 1-800-801-1101. Tell them your problem that it can't turn on and ask them if they can send you a replacement battery via mail (being that you're still "under warranty") but DO NOT tell them that you have water damage, otherwise they may notate it on your account and may not send you a replacement battery. If you do decide to go to these centers, granted they still might notate it if it's water damage but they'll still try to help you by trying to replace a battery either onsite or expediting the shipment of the battery via mail (1-2 business days).

darktriad said:
You dont have to seal it as long as its dried well and just let the rice soak up as much moisture as it could. Check the liquid damage indicator (circle litmus paper located just above sim tray) and check if pink or white. Also check the litmus paper on your battery as well since it could also be the battery that may be the problem. I would also highly suggest to go to your nearest Att device support center so they can determine if its your battery or your phone (free service) so you wont have to waste money buying a battery. If they still cant turn it on with another battery then your phone may be kaput.
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Yes that's the liquid damage indicator. If moisture gets in contact with that litmus paper, it'll turn pink and that'll be an indicator for the service technicians or warranty services to determine if it's out of warranty. Since now that you know it's pink, it doesn't always mean or show how much your phone has been affected by water and that's why I suggested that you take it up with the AT&T Device Support Center to see if they can at least replace the battery (if that works).
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I think you misunderstood me. My phone was working when I turned off to dry it and I still haven't turned it on yet. I will wait 48h total before I try to turn on again. I don't know yet if everything works.
Is it possible to send the phone to service so they can replace the indicator after they check everything works perfectly? is it even possible?

The thing that I don't understand when I remove the battery cover, back of the phone was dry. The indicator on battery is still white. I don't understand how it changed color so suddenly and the battery indicator didn't even tough it seemed dry...

warfanax said:
I think you misunderstood me. My phone was working when I turned off to dry it and I still haven't turned it on yet. I will wait 48h total before I try to turn on again. I don't know yet if everything works.
Is it possible to send the phone to service so they can replace the indicator after they check everything works perfectly? is it even possible?
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I may have misunderstood, my apologies but like I said, if the device shows a pink on the litmus paper, your warranty has just been voided and no they cannot replace the indicator. If you send it in for replacement, you'll just be paying full price for the phone plus you'll get a refurbished unit (in my opinion, it's not worth it). It's better to just take it to those cell phone repair shops and see if they can repair the internals for a cheaper price but sometimes that isn't worth it as well. Just keep letting the rice soak as much moisture as it can and if it still turns on, more power to you. However, you still want to check the litmus paper near the contacts of the battery to make sure if it's white. If it's pink, the battery may be affected and can cause problems with either battery life or power issues (not being able to supply power efficiently to device and may cause it to restart or power on/off).
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warfanax said:
The thing that I don't understand when I remove the battery cover, back of the phone was dry. The indicator on battery is still white. I don't understand how it changed color so suddenly and the battery indicator didn't even tough it seemed dry...
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It's just the placement of the indicator that allows it to be more prone to contact with moisture and since the battery wasn't affected, it was probably just hiding well that it didn't make contact so you may not need to have your battery replaced. I'm just concerned about how your phone will function after it has been in contact with water so if you start seeing weird things happening on your phone, I suggest you start backing up all your information while it still works because over time, depending on the severity of the moisture exposure and if worse comes to worst, it may not turn on for you.
I've been experienced with these problems since I used to work at the AT&T device support center and I've heard a lot of people who came in with those problems and it does really suck to see their reaction when they know that they've lost all their data especially when we can't turn it on for them.

darktriad said:
I may have misunderstood, my apologies but like I said, if the device shows a pink on the litmus paper, your warranty has just been voided. Just keep letting the rice soak as much moisture as it can and if it still turns on, more power to you. However, you still want to check the litmus paper near the contacts of the battery to make sure if it's white. If it's pink, the battery may be affected and can cause problems with either battery life or power issues (not being able to supply power efficiently to device and may cause it to restart or power on/off).
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It's just the placement of the indicator that allows it to be more prone to contact with moisture and since the battery wasn't affected, it was probably just hiding well that it didn't make contact so you may not need to have your battery replaced. I'm just concerned about how your phone will function after it has been in contact with water so if you start seeing weird things happening on your phone, I suggest you start backing up all your information while it still works because over time, depending on the severity of the moisture exposure and if worse comes to worst, it may not turn on for you.
I've been experienced with these problems since I used to work at the AT&T device support center and I've heard a lot of people who came in with those problems and it does really suck to see their reaction when they know that they've lost all their data especially when we can't turn it on for them.
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thank you. I will consider sending it to service if I see something is wrong

Had that happen to me also. If you heat the rice up in micro wave as it is placed in a sock it will be a lot more effective. I have used that method many time the heat will help pull moisture out. You Google it to about rice in a sock lol. Heat it up pretty warm put it in it let it sit and keep repeating. And for a safe measure on the day I was planning to boot it back up it sat in the sun for a fee hours and the damn thing was so hot it worried me. But kinda like with an old school distributer cap even though it looks dry its not. And I think the sun beating down on that screen for about 4-6 hours took all little patches of moisture out. And that is my method for when phones enjoy a swim lmao hope it helps
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Had that happen to me also. If you heat the rice up in micro wave as it is placed in a sock it will be a lot more effective. I have used that method many time the heat will help pull moisture out. You Google it to about rice in a sock lol. Heat it up pretty warm put it in it let it sit and keep repeating. And for a safe measure on the day I was planning to boot it back up it sat in the sun for a fee hours and the damn thing was so hot it worried me. But kinda like with an old school distributer cap even though it looks dry its not. And I think the sun beating down on that screen for about 4-6 hours took all little patches of moisture out. And that is my method for when phones enjoy a swim lmao hope it helps
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thanks. I tried as you said put rice in a sock and used it to heat up the rice bag. I also think will be more effective. I am also thinking if I force the water evaporate inside the phone so fast isn't gonna cause some condensation issues possibly condense on the screen? well I already did. big day is tomorrow...

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thanks. I tried as you said put rice in a sock and used it to heat up the rice bag. I also think will be more effective. I am also thinking if I force the water evaporate inside the phone so fast isn't gonna cause some condensation issues possibly condense on the screen? well I already did. big day is tomorrow...
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No, the rice acts as a desiccant, it will pull all the moisture out of the air. The heat will help pull it out from under chips and other surface mount components.

This is all I can think of when I read this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_playerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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This thread makes me wonder how many refurbished phones have been repaired and returned to use after immersion in someone's toilet.

Here is an update...
After keeping the phone in rice for 48h I turned it on for the first time today and so far everything works as normal.
I tested both cameras, sensors, spen, speaker. I only had a little buzz coming from the speaker but after blowing some air it turned to normal. no problems so far.
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warfanax said:
Here is an update...
After keeping the phone in rice for 48h I turned it on for the first time today and so far everything works as normal.
I tested both cameras, sensors, spen, speaker. I only had a little buzz coming from the speaker but after blowing some air it turned to normal. no problems so far.
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Thats good to know. Hope everything keeps working for ya!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSReSGe200A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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There's a crap story in every forum.
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warfanax said:
Here is an update...
After keeping the phone in rice for 48h I turned it on for the first time today and so far everything works as normal.
I tested both cameras, sensors, spen, speaker. I only had a little buzz coming from the speaker but after blowing some air it turned to normal. no problems so far.
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Glad to hear that!
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Saltwater damage

I fell in the water with my phone. Salt water at that. Once I came to, my phone had a blinking light coming from the camera flash. I took battery out and let dry. Today I got up, took phone completely apart, cleaned with contact cleaner. Was ALOT of salt inside the phone. Anyways I got it cleaned up as best I could, pretty clean. Let dry again for a few hours.
Its back together now, turns on. Screen goes all crazy, pink and fuzzy. Pulsing blue led on front for about 10 seconds. Then nothing. Tried USB to PC nothing.
I found these phone don't come fully apart. I can take out main board, camera and a few plastic parts. But that's it. Lots of phone to take apart but no guides past this point and all the teardowns bring me to the same point.
Any ideas? Maybe bath the screen and what left for electrical components in alcohol?
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Can a mod move this to galaxy s3 i747 section? My bad
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Sea water messes up components, think you should consider a new phone

Yea bro I'm gunna say that trying to fix it is more money and effort then just buying a new one

I already bought a new phone. Got another i747m. $400 didn't wanna mess with used phones again, last 3 used phones all ended up having an issue one way or another. Save a few bucks gain a few headaches.
Thanks for confirming what I thought though.
I am going to investigate fixing the phone. Still.
I got it to boot more now, pulsing boot led, vol buttons make a sound when I press them. I used my multimeter to test most of the connections. Everything I could check is fine. I think there is more salt behind the screen and behind the 2 small PCB chips that I couldn't get off. Going to try excessive force this time. Nothing to loose.
Is it safe to use the battery still? Its not swollen or nothing. Or should I not bother being as the water mark on the battery is pink?
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I already bought a new phone. Got another i747m. $400 didn't wanna mess with used phones again, last 3 used phones all ended up having an issue one way or another. Save a few bucks gain a few headaches.
Thanks for confirming what I thought though.
I am going to investigate fixing the phone. Still.
I got it to boot more now, pulsing boot led, vol buttons make a sound when I press them. I used my multimeter to test most of the connections. Everything I could check is fine. I think there is more salt behind the screen and behind the 2 small PCB chips that I couldn't get off. Going to try excessive force this time. Nothing to loose.
Is it safe to use the battery still? Its not swollen or nothing. Or should I not bother being as the water mark on the battery is pink?
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The battery *should* be fine for a while. I've used a water damaged one for the longest time but it did spend a couple days in a bag of rice.

Dropped in water now camera LED wont turn off

I dropped my Oneplus 3 in the toilet. I then bought a special bag with a block thing in it which sucks water out of phones... which seemed to have worked. My phone now turns on and works... but the camera LED wont turn off! Turning the flashlight on and back off just makes the LED bright... but it stays on (only dimmer) when toggled off.
Any idea how I can fix this or disable the camera LED completely?
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So sad mate.
Your flash light circuit has been damaged. I had similar issue with my Lumia 625 after dropping into the water. But it had removable back.
Your issue can be fixed by a hardware fix only. But try a traditional method.
Remove sim tray, turn off your phone and place your phone in a rice bowl over night. Then use low flow hair dryer from a distance on your op3.
Good Luck mate

Thanks mate, tried both but the light still stays on. Its not at full brightness so hopefully it wont drain the battery too fast.
Just charged her, the two bottom captivate buttons have stopped working too. I've switched to onscreen buttons.
I'll see if I can live with it and wait out for a oneplus 4 maybe.
I'd love a Pixel but the 128gb one is £820 in the UK! Thats crazy money when this phone is so good.

dismantle the phone, disconnect battery, clean pcb and flex with alcohol. wait till all components will dry. try to power on and see if it helped. Best way would be to wash in ultrasonic cleaner.

just wondering... how the f&*k did you dropped it in the toilet? Do you take your phone with you to the bathroom?
Anyway sorry to hear about the camera.

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dismantle the phone, disconnect battery, clean pcb and flex with alcohol. wait till all components will dry. try to power on and see if it helped. Best way would be to wash in ultrasonic cleaner.
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Thanks pal, might give that a go!

badboy47 said:
just wondering... how the f&*k did you dropped it in the toilet? Do you take your phone with you to the bathroom?
Anyway sorry to hear about the camera.
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I was drunk, it was in my back pocket and I had a sit down piss... it must have just fallen in when I pulled my trousers down :crying:

viperman78 said:
I was drunk, it was in my back pocket and I had a sit down piss... it must have just fallen in when I pulled my trousers down :crying:
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Bummer. Would you be able to open the phone? The process is very easy. Check out few videos on YouTube on how to do that. I have feeling some parts might be still wet.

viperman78 said:
i was drunk, it was in my back pocket and i had a sit down piss... It must have just fallen in when i pulled my trousers down :crying:
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hahahahahahahahaha