Sweat Damage - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I know there is a lot of information on the Internet about Water Damage, but i can't seem to find out what's going with my device.
Here's what happened: i went for a run with my phone stuck to my arm by a rubber band. When i got home i found that the sweat of my arm had damaged the phone: it didn't want to turn on and the water damage stickers are red. I dried the sweat of the back of the phone with a towel (it wasn't much) and i was able to turn it up for an hour or two and it seemed fined, only the battery indicator was crazy (exclamation mark). I wasn't able to charge my battery as well. The indicator led is crazy as well (when i try to charge my battery it blinks orange, green and so on).
The phone itself seems fine is the battery that cannot charge and seems damaged causing the phone to turn off frequently. What do you think? Should a buy a new battery or a new phone?
(sorry for my bad english)

1: don't run with the phone. Two: try with another battery, the battery seems broken.
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If phone is still damp put it in a bowl of dry rice, it will remove any excess moisture.
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That phone is not designed to be used that way, you should use an external casing that's not connected to your skin and as such less likely to be sweat damaged. (i.e.: belt clip of sort).
The suggestion to place into a jar of rice for a day or two is typically a good way to draw out any moisture, the main thing you DO NOT want to do is attempt to power it on or charge while humidity still exists inside the device.

I bought a new battery and the phone works just fine, only the old battery was damaged. Thanks for the help.

This is more of a question about sweat
I didn't want to make another thread about sweat damage, so i figured I might as well ask here. I have a problem where it seem that my touch screen collects moisture inside my pants pocket. One time at the mall i stood watching a football game for like an hour, when i took out my phone the screen was completely soaked like i gave it a good spray with a spray bottle. I think the problem is that the phone is warm so it causes me to sweat more? Funny thing is I feel warm but it doesn't seem like i was sweating, yet screen still collect alot of moisture.
The phone is working fine, no sign of any water related damage and that incident been about 2 weeks ago. My real question is, anyone got any recommendation as to how to carry my phone to prevent any further water exposure?

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Accidentaly put rhodium in washer, can it be saved?

I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.
woeds said:
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.
I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much
Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.
One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.
A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture
Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...
how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it
White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.
dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.
some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.
My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)
The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
solsearch said:
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.
Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.
Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/
Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water
IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?

[Q] Dropped in water, Wont charge anymore

My friend dropped her phone into a glass of water. Stupid her just had it off over night with battery removed, but next day decided to just pop battery in and start using it. Calls me later(spare phone) and tells me details.
I go get it disassemble, rubbing alcohol, the works. Let dry for 48 hours. Everything on the phone works other than it wont charge the battery. She has 2 batteries one which is new. Besides getting an external charger for it, is there anything else I could do to fix it? Is there a part I can replace, or something software related that might fix it?
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My friend dropped her phone into a glass of water. Stupid her just had it off over night with battery removed, but next day decided to just pop battery in and start using it. Calls me later(spare phone) and tells me details.
I go get it disassemble, rubbing alcohol, the works. Let dry for 48 hours. Everything on the phone works other than it wont charge the battery. She has 2 batteries one which is new. Besides getting an external charger for it, is there anything else I could do to fix it? Is there a part I can replace, or something software related that might fix it?
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I suspect (hope) only the battery was damaged from your friend's phone. Have her go to TMO and see if they will let her test charge a display Slide battery in her phone. If it starts charging and increases by a few percentage points then perhaps only the battery was damaged. Hope the situation gets worked out.
Just dropped mine in a full sink two weeks ago ... mine hit the edge and knocked the battery out milliseconds before the device hit the water (miracle). Fully submerged. Dried it over a weak heater vent for 2 days. Works just like new. I figured the phone was ok as I snatched it out of the water very quickly. My main concern was the battery ... I thought I might have damaged it. So far everything is just fine.
We have tested it with a new battery. Phone works perfectly fine just wont charge the battery, every feature works. Can even connect to computer with usb.
What im trying to figure out is if there is something I can do i.e. fix it somehow cheaply
Your best bet is probably just using an external charger. I'm using a friends old phone that had a full glass of lemonade spill on it and sit for 5 hours in liquid, turned on. When he woke up the battery was sparking, contact was melted. The battery was partially fried from the short circuit, so I just bought a new battery. The only thing that doesn't work in the phone is the camera. The real downside to that is if any app tries to access the camera the phone completely locks up, takes about 10 seconds just to get out of the black screen.
I'm digressing, anyway, yeah, external charger is probably the best bet, if she has two batteries that should work just fine. Use one while the other is charging.
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ultrasonic cleaning
if you disassemble to the charging circuit board or motherboard and try placing it into an alcohol solution in a u/s cleaner (also used for jewelry), this might clean the contacts and allow charging, might not do anything or damage the board. no guarantees on this method , but will sometimes work.
ps. remember that some circuit board cleaner solutions will dissolve plastic, recommend alcohol.
bill g.
The best solution I have found for a wet phone, or any device for that matter, is to take the device apart as much as possible. Then put it in a ziploc bag of rice. Seal it up good so air doesn't get in. The rice will suck all the water out. I have done this with my old G1 (twice) as well as other phones.

Water damage, is it dead?

Hi all,
My GF has a G2. A few days ago she put it in her cup holder in her car. There was a few mm of water from a degraded fast food cup in the cup holder. She told me that the water might have reached the earphone.
We let the phone dry out for 48hrs and put the battery back in. Initially it worked for about 6hrs with no problems but when she came home from work the phone would only boot into the bootloader. Once in the bootloader I can not select any options nor turn the phone off. Taking the battery out is the only option, but when it's put back in we go back to the bootloader.
I have attached a picture of the bootloader screen. You can see there is some striation on the bottom of the screen. This striation is at the opposite end from where the phone touched the water.
1. is the striation normal? (think I know the ans to that one but...)
2. Can I try anything to get the phone up and running?
3. Would it be worth a warranty replacement call? The White dot behind the battery is still white, but I think the screen could be a give away to water damage.
Looks like water trapped under the screen. Water could have run from one end of the phone to the other, especially if you held it back upright while water was still inside. Or it could have re-condensed in a different spot from where it was submerged.
If water is still trapped under the screen, its obviously not completely dry. I would try to dry it more, you can try the trick of placing the phone in a bag of uncooked rice, or chemical dessicant packs (like the kind some items come packed with that say "do not eat") to help pull the water out of the phone. 2 days does not seems like enough time, if you just tried just air drying it without one of these tricks. Power off until you are more sure the phone is dry, or you are just doing more damage.
Rice is your best bet right now. It can work wonders.
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Rice trick is your best bet. Might be too late now. Should have never turned it back on, and if it was on at the time, should have shut it off immediately till you consulted xda. At least you will know for next time! Good luck! Fyi you didn't need to blur that stuff out.
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Put it under a 100w lamp or.under something warm, leave for 24hrs
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[Q] Water damage on Desire HD please HELP

So it started raining cats and dogs while I went for a hike today, almost like a flash flood. I had kept my phone in a plastic bag however the worst thing happened, somehow the water got in the bag and my phone was lying in the bag for a few hours before I realized. I started to turn on my phone exactly twice, did not work, I realized what happened and immediately took out the battery. Once I reached home a few hours later I put the battery and the phone in rice. I am keeping my fingers crossed, can anyone of you give me some more helpful tips??
Additionally, Can you tell me if how can I detect if the water detectors have turned on?? where are they?? also should I use the hair dryer on the phone?? and most importantly how much time should I wait before I try to turn it on again???
Also, I just noticed on the battery, both the negative terminals have some little black stuff on them, does it mean anything??
The indicators are inside the phone. You have to take the back off to see them. Keep it in rice for 4 days at least. It would also help if you remove the back while drying it out. Try a different battery too as sometimes it's only the battery that's damaged. Whatever you do, DON'T ATTEMPT TO POWER IT ON, this is what shorts out the motherboard and bricks it.
Let me know how you get on.
Good luck.
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Take out the battery and locate the white stripe (usually next to the connectors). If it's red, your warranty is voided.
The water damage indicators are still intact and white.
I had it confirmed from the service centre however they insist that they can see the water damage clearly and so the repair would have to be bared by me.
Do I have any options here, the repaire cost is quite a lot as they said they would have to replace the motherboard and LCD!!
Also If I do get it repaired then would it work properly?? should I go for the repair, the cost is almost 50% of the phone price.
I'd swerve it if I were you and look on ebay for a second hand one.
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If you've got any, silica gel works much better than rice at absorbing moisture. Avoid the hairdryer method - if you aren't careful it gets too hot and may damage some of the more sensitive components on the board.
You can also take a multitester to your battery and see if it still provides the correct voltage (it'll be written on the battery)

Water damage question

Hello! My M9 got some water in it last night when I was drunk, luckily it wasn't fully submerged, and had a case on it, but it still got into the charging hole. I shook out all the water I could and was dumb and tried to charge it, it got to the battery charging screen so that's good, however there were crackling noises. I left the phone upright all night and am using my space heater to try to dry it more.
Should I buy isopropyl alcohol and soak the phone in it? There's no way I'm going to be able to disassemble the phone because it's practically impossible so I was wondering if dipping the whole thing would be a good idea or no.
Umm.. No.
Put it in a bag of rice (uncooked) for a day or 2.
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Hello! My M9 got some water in it last night when I was drunk, luckily it wasn't fully submerged, and had a case on it, but it still got into the charging hole. I shook out all the water I could and was dumb and tried to charge it, it got to the battery charging screen so that's good, however there were crackling noises. I left the phone upright all night and am using my space heater to try to dry it more.
Should I buy isopropyl alcohol and soak the phone in it? There's no way I'm going to be able to disassemble the phone because it's practically impossible so I was wondering if dipping the whole thing would be a good idea or no.
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shivadow said:
Umm.. No.
Put it in a bag of rice (uncooked) for a day or 2.
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I second that, put it in a bag of rice. Somewhere warm and dry. The rice wil draw the moisture out of the phone.
While IPA is fast evaporating and electronic friendly it still needs to be exposed to the air to evaporate properly without leaving a residue
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speaking from experience, the m9 isnt as bad as whats been made out. i bought the ifixit iopener kit and the tools made it straight forward. just a delicate and time consuming effort with the sticky tape they used.
I dropped the bottom edge of mine in a mug of tea 2-3 months ago (2" submerged for a second or 2). No immediate problems but the last few weeks I've had backlight issues. the backlight cable to the screen had liquid remaining in it causing backlight issues. you could probably dry it out by getting to step8: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+M9+Teardown/39166. M9 teardown gets trickier once you need to remove the battery. fwiw, the backlight cable seems to be the cable with '...00031' on it, at the top right of this picture: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/Y5J4Lk1jLQvsSYmQ.huge. liquid was stuck between the back side of that cable, and the other flexible cable it was soldered to which should not need any further dismantling of the phone.
atleast getting this far, you'd be able to confirm exactly how much liquid has entered the phone and if you need to dry out any other connections to avoid future problems.
I left mine in rice for a little over 2 days and it worked fine after. Just left a little spot you can barely see when the screen is fully black
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