I'm having issues with general lag with the phone. I have been for some time. I cleared all apps/data/dalvik, flashed CM6.1 and ran a Titanium restore of just installed apps/data, and it's still a problem.
Do you guys have any recommendations of ways to correct this? The phone is just very laggy all around. App load times are slow as hell, and even the browser is slow.
Asterdroid said:
I'm having issues with general lag with the phone. I have been for some time. I cleared all apps/data/dalvik, flashed CM6.1 and ran a Titanium restore of just installed apps/data, and it's still a problem.
Do you guys have any recommendations of ways to correct this? The phone is just very laggy all around. App load times are slow as hell, and even the browser is slow.
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That's your problem right there.
Start over from scratch. install each program manually (titanium backup is not recommended for restoring Data) and see where you start lagging.
both swype and swiftkey seemed to lag my phone. swiftkey has been better after a few updates.
Check out the rom threads.. most devs frown on titanium as it causes more headaches than helps..
Appbrain seems to be the restore mode of choice, but if your trying to track down a problem app.. do it manually.
DjCalvin said:
That's your problem right there.
Start over from scratch. install each program manually (titanium backup is not recommended for restoring Data) and see where you start lagging.
both swype and swiftkey seemed to lag my phone. swiftkey has been better after a few updates.
Check out the rom threads.. most devs frown on titanium as it causes more headaches than helps..
Appbrain seems to be the restore mode of choice, but if your trying to track down a problem app.. do it manually.
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Interesting. I really hope swype isn't the culprit. I don't know if I can live without it.
Or try out a different AOSP kernel, see if that helps.
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Ok, so in an effort to not waste anymore time searching and reading and getting a tiny bit confused. To all of my rooted Incredible partners who were using 2.2 Froyo before the root, and stuck with HTC Sense after the root. What apps are perfectly fine to get rid of completely and it wont mess up the DInc at all ?
Why stuck with HTC sense? I don't think i understand your question.
As far as removing apps pretty much anything that is not essential and most of the stuff you won't be able to remove.
I just now rooted my DInc but ive had for a few months so I'm just used to Sense. My question was pretty much me just wondering exactly which apps that came with the phone were ok to uninstall with Titanium Backup, like uninstalling them wouldnt mess up my DInc, like cause it to brick, or something to not work properly.
I don't remember stock lol.
Check this out.
http://www.market4android.com/stock-android-2-1-apps-list
I know it says 2.1 but it's a good start.
http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/remove-bloatware-from-htc-droid-incredible-2-2/
Did you make a NANDROID backup of your phone? If not do so now. You can do it via rom manager or boot into recovery and create a backup file. So in case you have issues you can restore your phone from an image.
Titanium backup won't be able to bring you back from disaster if your phone won't boot.
Robode said:
I just now rooted my DInc but ive had for a few months so I'm just used to Sense. My question was pretty much me just wondering exactly which apps that came with the phone were ok to uninstall with Titanium Backup, like uninstalling them wouldnt mess up my DInc, like cause it to brick, or something to not work properly.
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Use Titanium Backup and start by freezing the apps first before removing them. If freezing doesn't cause issues, then you can, more than likely, remove the app. I prefer to just freeze them, does basically the same thing.
I would simply freeze them, but TB wont let me. It keeps saying that to be able to freeze, I need to be on the donate version of it, which Im only guessing is the paid version.
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Robode said:
I would simply freeze them, but TB wont let me. It keeps saying that to be able to freeze, I need to be on the donate version of it, which Im only guessing is the paid version.
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It is the paid version. It is worth the $ IMO. Safer than deleting something you need.
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Robode said:
I just now rooted my DInc but ive had for a few months so I'm just used to Sense. My question was pretty much me just wondering exactly which apps that came with the phone were ok to uninstall with Titanium Backup, like uninstalling them wouldnt mess up my DInc, like cause it to brick, or something to not work properly.
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I agree with trickster. TB is very much worth the money. When I first got it, I had just rooted - deleted an app and restored it with no problem. Then I tried removing a "stock" app. Gone. Can't reinstall... Freezing it is the way to go. Then again, you might want to consider a nandroid backup before doing anything at all.
I have a backup of all of the stock HTC apps somewhere. I had removed one of the stock apps on accident, so I had just used that and restored the apk... worked fine after that.
along with the android.process.acore issue im getting a slew of other errors. cant make any calls, cant load any contacts or messages. Im on SFR 2.1 everything was working fine earlier today, I cant think of anything I did to cause this. Im super stressed, iv searched around, people say to re-flash the phone... that makes me nervous.. what should i do? any help is much appreciated.
Sounds like data corruption. Are you journaled? Did you have an abrupt power off of the phone?
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along with the android.process.acore issue im getting a slew of other errors. cant make any calls, cant load any contacts or messages. Im on SFR 2.1 everything was working fine earlier today, I cant think of anything I did to cause this. Im super stressed, iv searched around, people say to re-flash the phone... that makes me nervous.. what should i do? any help is much appreciated.
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If you have a recent nandroid backup, restore it from cwm. If not, you will need to reflash the rom.
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no im not journaling at all, the phone has been on all day untill I recived the errors. I tried to restore my phone using CWM and now I can get to my contacts but im still having gapps crash n stuff. idk what to do, i wana go back to stock and take this damn phone to the sprint store.
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no im not journaling at all, the phone has been on all day untill I recived the errors. I tried to restore my phone using CWM and now I can get to my contacts but im still having gapps crash n stuff. idk what to do, i wana go back to stock and take this damn phone to the sprint store.
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I doubt it's a hardware issue, sounds like data corruption potentially caused by lack of journaling an unstable undervolt/overclock or a combination of the two. Reflash your ROM of choice, and turn on journaling (if it's not already). It's a slight performance hit, but well worth it. Honestly the only time you'd even notice a difference is during a benchmark, these phones are plenty fast enough.
so I just re-flashed my phone... all my wonderful apps are gone.. all those high scores..everything. Im so sick of this phone.
j00manji said:
so I just re-flashed my phone... all my wonderful apps are gone.. all those high scores..everything. Im so sick of this phone.
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You should have backed up and restored data only
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j00manji said:
so I just re-flashed my phone... all my wonderful apps are gone.. all those high scores..everything. Im so sick of this phone.
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It's your own fault. At least learn from it, utilize apps like titanium backup to backup apps and settings, make weekly NAND backups and enable journaling so it is unlikely to happen again.
I just had that happened to me about two hrs ago an don't know waht to do. It seem like my epic won't read my sd card and titanium back up and all my other apps are in there! I lost my google, facebook, clock, and almost everything force closes!!! Any help out there???
Syndicate rom frozen, over clocked via set cpu
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Try repairing permissions from CWM.
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so I just re-flashed my phone... all my wonderful apps are gone.. all those high scores..everything. Im so sick of this phone.
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Bad flashing can happen on any phone. You would have had the same problem with journaling off on any phone. You can return this phone and still flash yourself into force close hell on a different phone. You aren't using Android right, it's not the Epic.
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ok, I have heard a lot of good reports on this app, My Backup Root. So, am I just doing something wrong?
I first tried My Backup Root, and it "seemed" to work fine, but I didn't' actually use the phone much afterward as I had just gotten a replacement from Sprint and was only trying it out before switching phones. Then, after I did the switch I discovered that I needed Pro to restore to a different phone. So, I purchased it and restored everything. But, I noticed I was getting a lot of FCs. Thinking it was the ROM ( I also tried the new EG22 ROM by decad3nce at the same time) and so I flashed to the RandomROM EG22, and restored my apps. But, I am getting the same thing, lots of apps just FC on me. I have found though that if I uninstall the app and reinstall it, the app works just fine. So, it seems to be a restore problem.
For the record, I am only doing the apk backup, no data. I have read lots of great reports on this app, so what am I doing wrong?
I used to love my backup pro but lately it has been doing that to me too, lost a lot of game save files because of it. I eventually gave up on it and bought titanium backup pro for aps. I still use mybackup to backup everything else but it fudges apps.
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I've been having similar problems. a work around that works for me (most of the time) is restore the app and the data separately.
Hi everyone,
I've been trying new ROMs and kernels since I got my M8 about a year ago. Ever since I switched away from Sense ROMs to GPE and AOSP, I've noticed that my phone has become debilitatingly slow on a semi-regular basis until I do a clean flash (and even then, the speed lasts for only a couple days max after restoring my apps).
Specifically:
- In general, apps and system activity will freeze mid-use
- Phone calls will sometimes cause my phone to vibrate for a bit before letting me act on them (and even so, my phone may be too frozen to act at all)
- Screen power-on sometimes takes a few tries
- Major 3rd party like Uber, Snapchat, etc- will take a long time to load and stutter more frequently during use
- Camera takes a good amount of time to load regardless of app
I'm mostly trying to figure out if there's something wrong with my approach to ROM selection, backup/restoring, or kernel configuration, because none of this feels how using a year-old flagship should.
Here's my current flow between ROMs: Backup all user apps, accounts, and other ROM-agnostic attributes with Titanium Pro; factory reset with TWRP; install ROM + gapps with TWRP; reboot, log in with Google to install Titanium; restore all missing apps + system data with Titanium. I've used DH's GPE, BlissPop, CM 12.1, and Candy5- all with the same result of general slowness and unusability after a couple days of use.
Things to note which I suspect may be possible culprits:
- I haven't ever cleared out internal storage, but try to keep ~5 gb free at a time.
- I have 3-4 Google accounts synced at once.
- I regularly use Facebook, Snapchat, and Uber/Lyft- all of which feel somewhat bloated and don't adhere to Android guidelines too well as far as I can tell
Things I've tried to cut down on lag:
- Greenified aforementioned bloated apps
- Messed with kernel I/O, clock speed, and governor settings with little or temporary success (I stick to stock settings now)
- Clearing running apps regularly (which I hate to do- Android should be able to handle processes just fine)
Currently running Candy5, latest build on Verizon.
Hopefully I've been thorough enough in my descriptions to give someone an idea of how to make my phone work as well as I know it should. Looking forward to getting to the bottom of this, and thanks so much in advance for anyone who wants to put the time in to help me out.
Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.
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Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.
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Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!
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Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!
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Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?
ned4spd8874 said:
Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?
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Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.
Slim zero gapps package works well for me also.
http://104.236.22.120/gapps/lollipop/5.1/Slim_zero_gapps.BETA.5.1.build.0.x-20150820.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/slimroms/general/gapps-official-slim-gapps-trds-slimkat-t2792842
I also had a feeling it could have been a full wipe issue (need click on advance to get to other wipes).
Always let google install my apps also (57 apps).
Never have had a lag problem with Dirty Unicorns.
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Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.
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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.
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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.
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I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!
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I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Yep, I did. It definitely helped briefly, but opening certain apps would bog the entire thing down. Never quite felt the way it should have.
Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?
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Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?
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Still figuring it out myself. I tried to go to both the latest VenomOne ROM and the last KK version of it and neither would load on my phone. Went back to DU and so far so good. But it's only been about 8 hours. Trying to restore as little data from TB as possible.
Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Interesting, I couldn't even get it installed on my phone this time! I've been running Dirty Unicorns for a couple days now, installed most of my apps and am having no issues yet. However, I do miss the TMO wifi calling. That's going to be a problem since one of my work locations has basically zero cell coverage.
FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).
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FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.
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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).
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So far all is good. I'm also not using Facebook or Facebook Messenger this time around. I have a shortcut on my homescreen to it and just browse with the browser. Works fine so far.
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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.
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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.
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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.
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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.
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I am, but I have replaced it. I was using a 16GB one, but bought a 32GB when these problems started with the purpose of off loading programs to the SD card since the phones memory was getting full. The phone is no longer full since I've wiped and don't have that many programs installed anymore. I can try taking it out to see how things go.