Hi everyone,
I've been trying new ROMs and kernels since I got my M8 about a year ago. Ever since I switched away from Sense ROMs to GPE and AOSP, I've noticed that my phone has become debilitatingly slow on a semi-regular basis until I do a clean flash (and even then, the speed lasts for only a couple days max after restoring my apps).
Specifically:
- In general, apps and system activity will freeze mid-use
- Phone calls will sometimes cause my phone to vibrate for a bit before letting me act on them (and even so, my phone may be too frozen to act at all)
- Screen power-on sometimes takes a few tries
- Major 3rd party like Uber, Snapchat, etc- will take a long time to load and stutter more frequently during use
- Camera takes a good amount of time to load regardless of app
I'm mostly trying to figure out if there's something wrong with my approach to ROM selection, backup/restoring, or kernel configuration, because none of this feels how using a year-old flagship should.
Here's my current flow between ROMs: Backup all user apps, accounts, and other ROM-agnostic attributes with Titanium Pro; factory reset with TWRP; install ROM + gapps with TWRP; reboot, log in with Google to install Titanium; restore all missing apps + system data with Titanium. I've used DH's GPE, BlissPop, CM 12.1, and Candy5- all with the same result of general slowness and unusability after a couple days of use.
Things to note which I suspect may be possible culprits:
- I haven't ever cleared out internal storage, but try to keep ~5 gb free at a time.
- I have 3-4 Google accounts synced at once.
- I regularly use Facebook, Snapchat, and Uber/Lyft- all of which feel somewhat bloated and don't adhere to Android guidelines too well as far as I can tell
Things I've tried to cut down on lag:
- Greenified aforementioned bloated apps
- Messed with kernel I/O, clock speed, and governor settings with little or temporary success (I stick to stock settings now)
- Clearing running apps regularly (which I hate to do- Android should be able to handle processes just fine)
Currently running Candy5, latest build on Verizon.
Hopefully I've been thorough enough in my descriptions to give someone an idea of how to make my phone work as well as I know it should. Looking forward to getting to the bottom of this, and thanks so much in advance for anyone who wants to put the time in to help me out.
Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.
Mr Hofs said:
Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.
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Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!
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Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!
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Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?
ned4spd8874 said:
Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?
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Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.
Slim zero gapps package works well for me also.
http://104.236.22.120/gapps/lollipop/5.1/Slim_zero_gapps.BETA.5.1.build.0.x-20150820.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/slimroms/general/gapps-official-slim-gapps-trds-slimkat-t2792842
I also had a feeling it could have been a full wipe issue (need click on advance to get to other wipes).
Always let google install my apps also (57 apps).
Never have had a lag problem with Dirty Unicorns.
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Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.
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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.
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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.
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I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!
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I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Yep, I did. It definitely helped briefly, but opening certain apps would bog the entire thing down. Never quite felt the way it should have.
Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?
Vandam500 said:
Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?
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Still figuring it out myself. I tried to go to both the latest VenomOne ROM and the last KK version of it and neither would load on my phone. Went back to DU and so far so good. But it's only been about 8 hours. Trying to restore as little data from TB as possible.
Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Interesting, I couldn't even get it installed on my phone this time! I've been running Dirty Unicorns for a couple days now, installed most of my apps and am having no issues yet. However, I do miss the TMO wifi calling. That's going to be a problem since one of my work locations has basically zero cell coverage.
FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Vandam500 said:
Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).
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FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.
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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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pickleman77 said:
Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).
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So far all is good. I'm also not using Facebook or Facebook Messenger this time around. I have a shortcut on my homescreen to it and just browse with the browser. Works fine so far.
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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.
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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.
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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.
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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.
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I am, but I have replaced it. I was using a 16GB one, but bought a 32GB when these problems started with the purpose of off loading programs to the SD card since the phones memory was getting full. The phone is no longer full since I've wiped and don't have that many programs installed anymore. I can try taking it out to see how things go.
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I presume everyone has seen this by now as it's also been posted on the Moto forum:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/MOTOR...news-for-our-loyal-DEFY-Community/td-p/693707
I haven't. Thanks. I just subscribed.
It's not Froyo, I think! And different with last one release
I just received this update OTA (3.6.360). It's for T- Mo phones (USA?) and has a link listing a number of "fixes". I have no issues with the supposed fixes except in on (T-MO USA) area: wifi calling. I had been experiencing some moments of voice loss on wifi calling. I did a reset which seemed to have cured it. Apparently this update stabilizes wifi calling and also makes "visual voice mail" now work over wifi. Let you know what happens.
I also just received it. Wow the screen scrolling is so silky smooth now. It was nice before, but it just glides now. Actually all selections are smoother. Homescreens, app drawer, widget scrolling. I also notice the touch sensitivity is better too. They greatly improved the overall feel of this phone's UI (not that it was anywhere near bad before). Very nice indeed!
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I also just received it. Wow the screen scrolling is so silky smooth now. It was nice before, but it just glides now. Actually all selections are smoother. Homescreens, app drawer, widget scrolling. I also notice the touch sensitivity is better too. They greatly improved the overall feel of this phone's UI (not that it was anywhere near bad before). Very nice indeed!
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Have been reading on this link about some wifi issues with the update: ie. cannot send text while wifi on, phone getting hot, battery life lower... you see any of those issues?
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44255?start=0&tstart=0
scrannel said:
Have been reading on this link about some wifi issues with the update: ie. cannot send text while wifi on, phone getting hot, battery life lower... you see any of those issues?
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44255?start=0&tstart=0
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Honestly I have never had an issue with any of those. The only thing I ever noticed was when I was on Wi-Fi, and I would text, I would see the icons for both Wi-Fi and 3G at the same time. Phone never gets hot, and battery life has been good (100% full charge with little use I can go 3 days. 100% charge with heavy use and I get a good day and a half). Since I just update today I will give a a little time, and post back if anything got worse or better.
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Honestly I have never had an issue with any of those. The only thing I ever noticed was when I was on Wi-Fi, and I would text, I would see the icons for both Wi-Fi and 3G at the same time. Phone never gets hot, and battery life has been good (100% full charge with little use I can go 3 days. 100% charge with heavy use and I get a good day and a half). Since I just update today I will give a a little time, and post back if anything got worse or better.
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One reason I ask is because I have terrible cell service and use wifi calling not only for calls but for sending text, which works fine now and would hate to update and discover I can't do this anymore.
OK DID IT... all seems to work as before. Somethings seem faster, sure I'll see a few new things as I go along.
I just signed up. I didnt get ota update?
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I just signed up. I didnt get ota update?
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I didn't sign up for anything... or do you just have to be a member of that forum? Otherwise, I presume they're rolling them out in batches?
Just downloaded it. Freed up about 70mb of RAM for me. Seems to be running smoother too. Booted twice which I was not prepared for. Still hoping for an official FroYo. After seeing the leaked release in the dev forum, I think it is a matter of time. If Samsung can release one for the Vibrant..... Yeah. But for now I can learn this like I learned my Win Mo.
EDIT: It appears that after this update I have lost root on my stock ROM. I cannot regain root through super1click nor z4root. Both fail to initialize. Super1 just locks up and z4 force closes. Not sure what could be the culprit. Did a factory data reset and am attempting to reinstall all apps including root.
EDIT: So yes it appears that indeed this has nullified my root access. Trying right now again with z4root and it is stuck in the attempting to apply root screen. Looks like Moto does not want their stuff messed with. Shoulda known better. Any ideas? I am really, really new to Android so I have been trying to avoid too much. Now that it force closed it looks like it will not let it do anything AND uninstalled it from my device. Will not let me install it again either. How nice. Glad I spent $ to be told what I can and can't do with my phone.
I have tried 3 times now to install this update, twice with the phone still rooted and once after unrooting and rebooting. Each time, I see the little Android guy next to an open box with a progress bar, which goes to about 1/3, then I get the triangle with ! inside next to the little Android guy. That isn't supposed to happen, right?
Judging by more recent posts about this update, it's just as well I can't install it.
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I deleted the music downloading apps, but FamilyRoom is still there. And I'm finding that a factory reset doesn't restore all that junk, so I still can't install the update. Poop.
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I have tried 3 times now to install this update, twice with the phone still rooted and once after unrooting and rebooting. Each time, I see the little Android guy next to an open box with a progress bar, which goes to about 1/3, then I get the triangle with ! inside next to the little Android guy. That isn't supposed to happen, right?
Judging by more recent posts about this update, it's just as well I can't install it.
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I'm having the same issue.
I've backed up all the bloatware onto another SD I removed with titanium, so I hope once putting those back on and unrooting will fix it.
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EDIT: It appears that after this update I have lost root on my stock ROM. I cannot regain root through super1click nor z4root. Both fail to initialize. Super1 just locks up and z4 force closes. Not sure what could be the culprit.
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I'm new to rooting and have the same problem, can't un-root, can't root after update. superoneclick stops at "reading OS version properties" when trying to root. Then says "super user not installed" when trying to un-root.
The worst part is the update reinstalled all that crap bloatware which is the reason I rooted in the first place. My bad for not un-rooting BEFORE I updated.
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I'm new to rooting and have the same problem, can't un-root, can't root after update. superoneclick stops at "reading OS version properties" when trying to root...
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I have this reading os version... problem as well. But an older version worked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913709
Yes the 2.51 works well. It took me 30 seconds with that one for me.
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I have tried 3 times now to install this update, twice with the phone still rooted and once after unrooting and rebooting. Each time, I see the little Android guy next to an open box with a progress bar, which goes to about 1/3, then I get the triangle with ! inside next to the little Android guy. That isn't supposed to happen, right?
Judging by more recent posts about this update, it's just as well I can't install it.
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same here- anyone here knows how to fix this issue?
I finally got it figured out. My problem was that I deleted some "bloatware" files that, for some reason, are essential to have in order for the update to run. Assuming you did the same thing:
If you haven't already, use Z4Root to root your phone and then install the recovery app found in post 83 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875233&page=9 . Run that recovery app in Recovery Boot mode, select Backup, and let it create a nandroid backup of your phone. That backup will end up in /goapkrev/backup on your SD card.
You'll need to download the ROM from post #39 on this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880813&page=4 Unrar it, then copy the folder containing 4 files into /goapkrev/backup on your card.
Run Recovery again, but this time select Backup & Restore - Advanced Restore. Select the folder you just copied to your card (2010-12-31.15.54.38), then select Restore System and let it run. That will leave your apps and data untouched. After the restore, select the option to reboot the phone.
Download and install the update, then reboot.
After rebooting, you can re-root using SuperOneClick found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913709 Don't forget to enable USB debugging first.
So far, so good
I did everything right (at least I'm pretty sure). I quadruple checked to ensure that there were no traces of root on my phone (Last time I was rooted the Software Update wouldn't even open, so I know I'm not rooted). I made sure that all system apps were restored prior to unroot. I kept it connected to a constant power source. Everytime I try to update (I think I'm at attempt #6 ) it fails at the 3rd step. Superuser is nowhere to be found on my Play. Does anyone have any ideas? The last thing I want to do is a full system restore, because wouldn't that require me activating it again?
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I did everything right (at least I'm pretty sure). I quadruple checked to ensure that there were no traces of root on my phone (Last time I was rooted the Software Update wouldn't even open, so I know I'm not rooted). I made sure that all system apps were restored prior to unroot. I kept it connected to a constant power source. Everytime I try to update (I think I'm at attempt #6 ) it fails at the 3rd step. Superuser is nowhere to be found on my Play. Does anyone have any ideas? The last thing I want to do is a full system restore, because wouldn't that require me activating it again?
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I wouldnt worry about OTA, just restore the nandroid that netiznt posted. I have 2.3.4. on my phone now with DoomKernel and root. Just did a nandroid restore in recovery. Works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630348
Would that wipe stuff like my texts and whatnot? I'm new to all of this so I don't know too much yet. Would the nandroid basically be the upgrade without the hassle of Verizon's OTA service, or would my version still say 2.3.3 if I go to About Phone? I just don't want to lose all of that data and stuff.
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Would that wipe stuff like my texts and whatnot? I'm new to all of this so I don't know too much yet. Would the nandroid basically be the upgrade without the hassle of Verizon's OTA service, or would my version still say 2.3.3 if I go to About Phone? I just don't want to lose all of that data and stuff.
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Just to show you, I just checked for an OTA update and it said I was current. I would highly recommend you do a nandroid backup of what you hae now, then once thats done restore the new 2.3.4 nandroid. It will be like a fresh wipe on your phone.
Would I be able to restore messages from the nandroid backup of my phone? If the OTA fails, I'll definitely do this then. Did you notice any improvements from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4?
Sorry about the double post but I just checked everything in my root folder, and when I got to the system apks, I noticed that the dates on them were 30 May 2012... Could the fact that those dates didn't even happen yet be interfering with the OTA? Maybe it does some sort of date check, and future dates returned some kind of error message. What do you guys think?
I had the same problem, no matter what you do its not gonna work. However if you follow my instructions here you can get it to work, and then reload your user data in. Don't use the 2.3.4 nandroid backup they are talking about, WiFi and camera don't work, and its for unlocked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25572068&postcount=503
I would have to call Verizon to activate my phone though wouldn't I?
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I would have to call Verizon to activate my phone though wouldn't I?
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no it activates automatically, hit the speaker button, listen to the message, press 1 when it tells you, and you're done.
Oh alright that sounds better. The person in charge of the plan (my mom since I'm only 17) wouldn't be notified of any of this would they?
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Oh alright that sounds better. The person in charge of the plan (my mom since I'm only 17) wouldn't be notified of any of this would they?
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Nope, there no notification, its like if your phone broke and you got a new one, or if you did a perfectly reasonable factory reset, the ESN is already associated with your account, so you're fine.
Alright awesome thanks! If this last update attempt doesn't work I guess I have no choice but to do this.
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Alright awesome thanks! If this last update attempt doesn't work I guess I have no choice but to do this.
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My way works perfectly, just takes a while, close to 2 hours...
Well before I spend 2 hours on a weekday in the middle of the day, what benefits are there in this update? I'll wait till Friday night if there's not much there.
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Well before I spend 2 hours on a weekday in the middle of the day, what benefits are there in this update? I'll wait till Friday night if there's not much there.
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Noticeable ones?
The camera now uses the right trigger to take pics
720p video recording
If you hold down the power button it takes a screenshot
It has a new piece of Verizon bloatware to delete (Verizon Video).
Facebook Sync seems to be fixed, but its actually still broken
Most importantly though, if and when the PSN store is released it will only work with 2.3.4 or better. Some people have anticipated its release this week.
As for spending 2 hours, you aren't really doing much during that 2 hours, you can probably watch TV and not get screwed up lol.
You had me at PSN Store! Hopefully it happens this week because converting all my ISOs with PSXperia is a lot of work haha. I guess I can take a break from texting for 2 hours and play with my iPad if this OTA attempt doesn't work... all of my SMS and MMS will be restored at the end of your method right?
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You had me at PSN Store! Hopefully it happens this week because converting all my ISOs with PSXperia is a lot of work haha. I guess I can take a break from texting for 2 hours and play with my iPad if this OTA attempt doesn't work... all of my SMS and MMS will be restored at the end of your method right?
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yep its restored up to the moment you took your nandroid backup at the start of the process.
Oh alright awesome! Definitely gonna do that when this update downloads (and probably fails)
For some reason, I am having problems, inconsistently, with entering text via voice. But it's happening more and more.
I use Swype most of the time. Just had it happen. I immediately get this error:
No speech detected. Speak naturally while recording for best results.
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So I changed to the Android (AOSP) keyboard (I'm on Liquid Smooth ROM), and I get this error:
Can't open microphone
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Any ideas?
Could you tell us some more information? Like have you tried a reflash of the ROM or how long you have been on it? Are you using any custom kernels? That way we can help you better.
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Bruce Lee said:
Could you tell us some more information? Like have you tried a reflash of the ROM or how long you have been on it? Are you using any custom kernels? That way we can help you better.
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Sure.
First, I'll say I'ave had this happen on other ROMS (although I don't remember which)>
I reflashed this ROM within the past two weeks. Complete wipe, and install apps from Play, not restore from TIBU, other than data for 2-3 apps. I did that because of Tasker constantly quitting. Was told to not restore it; install, and import (not restore) data. I might add that Tasker still blows up though.
I am not using custom kernel. Using the kernel that came with the ROM. I'm on LIquid Smooth 2.8.
My impression is that if I reflash, it will quite...for a while. I'd like to figure out what is causing this. Reflashing is becoming old.
So most of the ROMS you have tried said this error message. Did I understand it right?
If you can, can you produce a logcat when you get that error? I personally never done one but maybe that can shed some light on that.
I personally like doing all options possible if I have issues so have you tried going back to stock and trying to replicate this issue? If you can it sounds like a hardware issue with the microphone.
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Sure.
First, I'll say I'ave had this happen on other ROMS (although I don't remember which)>
I reflashed this ROM within the past two weeks. Complete wipe, and install apps from Play, not restore from TIBU, other than data for 2-3 apps. I did that because of Tasker constantly quitting. Was told to not restore it; install, and import (not restore) data. I might add that Tasker still blows up though.
I am not using custom kernel. Using the kernel that came with the ROM. I'm on LIquid Smooth 2.8.
My impression is that if I reflash, it will quite...for a while. I'd like to figure out what is causing this. Reflashing is becoming old.
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So most of the ROMS you have tried said this error message. Did I understand it right?
If you can, can you produce a logcat when you get that error? I personally never done one but maybe that can shed some light on that.
I personally like doing all options possible if I have issues so have you tried going back to stock and trying to replicate this issue? If you can it sounds like a hardware issue with the microphone.
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It's not on 'most' ROMS, but it has happened on others. I think I can do a logcat with one of the utilities on my phone. I've done it before at request of some other ROM owners, but then got no response after uploading it. Not sure I can tell much from it.
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I'm updating all apps now. Google Search was not on the list to update, so I'm not thinking that will help....Ut-Ohhh...phone just rebooted during app upgrades.
I've been finding this phone to be a bit flaky lately. Fact is, I don't find any ROM I've tried, despite all the praises they get, to not have some issue other. If 4.3 ever gets out, stock, for this SGS3, I think I'll lay off of custom ROMS.
With regard to the microphone being bad...it works fine with Dragon, so the microphone is working.
I may restore an earlier Nandroid backup that was working and see if that works.
I'l post back how it goes.
Ok. I updated all apps, Google search wasn't one of them. It is working, except...one thing I've figure out is that now it does not work if my phone is hooked to any blue tooth device. Not sure what's up with that. I'm going to post in the ROM's Q&A thread about this and see what they say.
I am starting to lose my mind on this one. I know about the whole TB issues when the phone first came out. But I can not get a couple apps to just work. Candy crush, Siriusxm and probably another one somewhere just crashes.
I have completely formatted the phone and started over with fresh downloads from the play store with the same results. Everything else on the phone works fine, just a couple of apps just crash.
Am I missing something? I am about to smash this thing.
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I am starting to lose my mind on this one. I know about the whole TB issues when the phone first came out. But I can not get a couple apps to just work. Candy crush, Siriusxm and probably another one somewhere just crashes.
I have completely formatted the phone and started over with fresh downloads from the play store with the same results. Everything else on the phone works fine, just a couple of apps just crash.
Am I missing something? I am about to smash this thing.
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This is actually a simplier fix than you think, but still annoying. It's a problem with the old data. THIS is how i fixed it.
Ran TB. Put all my note 2 stuff on my note 3.
Waited for apps to crash and made note of which ones crashed.
Went to the play store, uninstalled and installed the apps one by one.
No more FC's.
Hope this works for you.
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This is actually a simplier fix than you think, but still annoying. It's a problem with the old data. THIS is how i fixed it.
Ran TB. Put all my note 2 stuff on my note 3.
Waited for apps to crash and made note of which ones crashed.
Went to the play store, uninstalled and installed the apps one by one.
No more FC's.
Hope this works for you.
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See thats my problem. I have done that. I got so mad about it I formatted the phone completely and installed a new rom, started fresh without TB and only downloaded from play store and still having crashes on the same apps.
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See thats my problem. I have done that. I got so mad about it I formatted the phone completely and installed a new rom, started fresh without TB and only downloaded from play store and still having crashes on the same apps.
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Ok, now i see why you are so fustrated. Sorry I was of no help. wiped dalvik and the apps are still crashing after dl from the store, shouldn't happen period. Reboot your phone and see if you can get a logcat of the crash.
I have some that crash too. Hanging with Friends is on that always crashes on first open, then I have for FC, and if I open it right away after that it works. I've also noticed that some apps from the Play Store say they are not compatible with the phone. When I go to all apps, and go through my list I can't install some. The strange thing is I know it's not because of 4.3 since I have the same app installed on my GSII running 4.3, so maybe it has something to do with the proccessor, or screen size? Got me, but you're not alone.
Have the apps been updated to support 4.3?
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I am starting to lose my mind on this one. I know about the whole TB issues when the phone first came out. But I can not get a couple apps to just work. Candy crush, Siriusxm and probably another one somewhere just crashes.
I have completely formatted the phone and started over with fresh downloads from the play store with the same results. Everything else on the phone works fine, just a couple of apps just crash.
Am I missing something? I am about to smash this thing.
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I have the Note 3
I am having crashing problems with Google store, FB messenger(aka chat heads),google +,Kingdoms of Camelot and some others but not as much. Cleaared the cache and data and helps for a bit. I really dont want to factory reset this and it ends up doing nothing.
Any suggestions, please
Allan
What apps and crashing as in you get notice that the app has crashed?
NOTE 3
Xscope Pro browser crashes alot.... its totally random tho, it'll crash on a site but when i visit the same site again its fine. unfortunately it hasn't been updated in a long time so its probably not playing nicely with 4.3.
not really getting any other crashes
For some reason I can't get Google Music to actually download anything to my phone. I'm trying to do an offline playlist for when I'm travelling and don't want to use 4g. This has worked on multiple devices I've had in the past, so I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. What's odd is, it won't stream music either unless I allow it to use 4G. I've reset my router and modem, restarted the phone, cleared the app data and cache and signed in again. Nothing I seem to do works and I'm getting irritated. These are songs I uploaded to and/or purchased from Google Music. Also, I do have data connectivity to everything else I can think of, work email, gmail, facebook and the internet as a whole are all working on the phone. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
Continuing my research, I found a review in the play store of someone with an HTC One (doesn't say if it's M7 or M8) that has the same problem. No reply to it though.
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Continuing my research, I found a review in the play store of someone with an HTC One (doesn't say if it's M7 or M8) that has the same problem. No reply to it though.
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I have this EXACT same issue. I can mark my playlists or radio stations for offline download, but if the checkbox for 'download on wifi only' is ticked, it never downloads.
The same thing happens with google photos and auto upload. If I have it set to upload on wifi only, it never happens. So the problem is very similar, but only with this device. My nexus 5, and Nexus 7 don't have this issue. So it's likely software, but I just can't figure out what it would be. I really don't want to do a factory reset and have to set everything up again. Maybe there's some HTC software messing it up?
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ONLY happens in google music and google photos
only happens when set to 'download(or upload) on wifi only'
Only happens on the htc one m8
Issue does not occur on nexus 5, or nexus 7.
Thank goodness it's not just me, I just realized it's happening for me on google photos auto backup as well yesterday. I concur it's got to be something software based but I'm not sure what it could be, the photo backups did work for me without issue for a while, I ended up turning it off for a couple days for some reason I can't recall, and never noticed after turning it back on that it wasn't actually uploading.
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Thank goodness it's not just me, I just realized it's happening for me on google photos auto backup as well yesterday. I concur it's got to be something software based but I'm not sure what it could be, the photo backups did work for me without issue for a while, I ended up turning it off for a couple days for some reason I can't recall, and never noticed after turning it back on that it wasn't actually uploading.
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Mine worked well when I first set everything up, but that was because it defaulted to uploading over mobile networks. I usually set it to upload on wifi only when charging, and google music downloads over wifi only. Ever since I set them to wifi, they don't sync properly. If I switch them back to use the mobile network, everything works fine. I'm so annoyed with this. I tried running a logcat and it didn't seem to offer too much info that I could notice. I switched back to the dalvik runtime from art with no change. The next step is a factory reset, but I'm not sure that's going to help me.
I'm pretty sure I had mine on wifi only as well, but I could be wrong. I'm not going to have time to mess around with it anymore until later tonight (US Eastern Time Zone), have you tried calling support at all? I haven't yet, but may give it a go. If not, I'll let you know when I'm going to try a factory reset and whichever of us can first should post if it resolved the issue or not hehe.
Oh, one thing I just thought of, are you using Lookout Mobile Security?
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I'm pretty sure I had mine on wifi only as well, but I could be wrong. I'm not going to have time to mess around with it anymore until later tonight (US Eastern Time Zone), have you tried calling support at all? I haven't yet, but may give it a go. If not, I'll let you know when I'm going to try a factory reset and whichever of us can first should post if it resolved the issue or not hehe.
Oh, one thing I just thought of, are you using Lookout Mobile Security?
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I'm fairly certain support isn't going to be useful. They're going to suggest a handful of unrelated things to try, then they're going to have you do a factory reset. I'm NOT using lookout security. That was the first thing I disabled. I don't need that crap on my phone lol. I could technically do a factory reset now, I just don't want to spend my free time at work today reinstalling and setting up all my apps and settings.
Yeah, I don't really think support would be useful either. I thought about tweeting at @HTC or @HTCUSA about it, but they'd probably do the same thing as support. I do have Lookout turned on, figured it was worth a thought if you did as well. I would take the time to do the factory reset today while at work but am prepping for a major DR test so I'm just flat out not going to have the time, plus I don't want to mess up my exchange account etc lol
Do you have any corporate applications on? We use Airwatch for MDM at my office, and even though it's not *supposed* to have any impact on personal devices other than requiring a PIN lock, I'm wondering if something else is causing me connectivity issues of some sort.
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Do you have any corporate applications on? We use Airwatch for MDM at my office, and even though it's not *supposed* to have any impact on personal devices other than requiring a PIN lock, I'm wondering if something else is causing me connectivity issues of some sort.
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Just went through htc support. no luck there. Had me clear cache and reset data on a bunch of apps to no avail. I'm going to do a hard reset and see if that helps.
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Do you have any corporate applications on? We use Airwatch for MDM at my office, and even though it's not *supposed* to have any impact on personal devices other than requiring a PIN lock, I'm wondering if something else is causing me connectivity issues of some sort.
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I don't have any corporate apps installed that would enforce policies. No.
Awesome, well, let me know if it works for you, this is seriously annoying. :-\
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Awesome, well, let me know if it works for you, this is seriously annoying. :-\
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I'll be sure to do that. Do you have 2-step authentication installed by any chance?
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Just went through htc support. no luck there. Had me clear cache and reset data on a bunch of apps to no avail. I'm going to do a hard reset and see if that helps.
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I don't have any corporate apps installed that would enforce policies. No.
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I'll be sure to do that. Do you have 2-step authentication installed by any chance?
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Nope, I haven't set up two factor. :-\
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Nope, I haven't set up two factor. :-\
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Factory reset didn't fix it. Ugh. This is a deal breaker for me! I've only had the phone for 3 days, but I don't want to return it...
I contacted HTC to see what they can offer as far as extra help...I'll keep you posted.
Thanks, I called the T-Mobile store I got mine from to see if they'd heard of anyone having this issue, they hadn't and want me to stop in so they can take a look. I've been using Android since the G1 and also have had my usual crew of fellow Android geeks here at the office take a look and everyone came back to factory reset. I don't really feel like going to the store to have them suggest that as well and find out, like you, that it doesn't work. I'll let you know if I find anything else out also. Thanks man!
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Thanks, I called the T-Mobile store I got mine from to see if they'd heard of anyone having this issue, they hadn't and want me to stop in so they can take a look. I've been using Android since the G1 and also have had my usual crew of fellow Android geeks here at the office take a look and everyone came back to factory reset. I don't really feel like going to the store to have them suggest that as well and find out, like you, that it doesn't work. I'll let you know if I find anything else out also. Thanks man!
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Well I'll clear that up by saying a factory reset isn't going to fix it. It's a software issue.
Exactly what I said, I'm tempted to root and try another ROM as I've had mine for over a month now. I'm wondering if you're up for it if you'd try another M8 to see if it happens there too? I've been trying to figure this out since June 1st and haven't really found anyone else dealing with the issue, kinda wonder if it's a glitch with the Wifi as I'd think if it was a pure software issue it would be more prevalent. :-\
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Exactly what I said, I'm tempted to root and try another ROM as I've had mine for over a month now. I'm wondering if you're up for it if you'd try another M8 to see if it happens there too? I've been trying to figure this out since June 1st and haven't really found anyone else dealing with the issue, kinda wonder if it's a glitch with the Wifi as I'd think if it was a pure software issue it would be more prevalent. :-\
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I highly doubt it's an issue with wifi because it works fine. I could surf the internet all day and it would just work. Yet, auto upload, and downloading songs in play music doesn't work. Super annoying. I'll probably give it a try tonight/tomorrow and see how it goes though.
I just figure since you just got yours they may give you less of a hard time about exchanging. I'll go fight with them either way, but I have to probably wait another week as i'm on call starting Friday for a week and can't go without my phone at all :-\
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I just figure since you just got yours they may give you less of a hard time about exchanging. I'll go fight with them either way, but I have to probably wait another week as i'm on call starting Friday for a week and can't go without my phone at all :-\
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I'll swing by there when I get a chance. If I can get a replacement, I'll take it. But I really don't think the device is the issue. Something is amiss here.