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latest HTC update CRAP

Damn, sorry but i'm a little pissed right now.
I would like to ask any of you fellows if the latest offcial update had any bad effects on your device ?
I have random crashes. When i try to restart it i get the white stupid HTC screen and nothing happens for a while then it restarts again from that point.
If i let it like that it will do this for about 10-15 mins. then it will eventually start.
(Ok, i just noticed that it isnt charging anymore...and when i try to unlock the screen it will turn it off.)
(After a couple of reboots it is charging again)
ffs !!!
Footnote.
I am running a standard Desire, not rooted, very few apps, no task killer.
What to do now ?
Well, now i go to work tomorrow like an idiot and will be nice with every one of my colleagues laughin at me.
YOu know, when all your colleagues use their company iPhones and you try to prove how awesome your Android is and after a couple of weeks your phones doesnt work anymore ppl will laugh at you.
So in the end i think, millions of ppl around the world should not be wrong after all.

make a gold card and flash the full generic ROM to your phone
if that doesn't work then you need to return it

No problem here works fine if not slightly better. The problem with forums is that people generally only post problems. I've seen many other posts with people reporting no issues on stock device. Could be due to an app you have.
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That's a good point.
Be a good chap Krpano and post your applist

Well, thanks for the fast feedback and sorry if i am a bit harsh.
But i actually avoid rooting/flashing to skip any kind of problems.
I just want the phone to work.
I depend on my phone when i am working.
ColorNote
Compass
ConnectBot
GDocs
androidVNC
Wifi Analyzer
gStrings
2010 World Cup South Africa
CallTrack
Dropbox
KeePassDroid
Terminal Emulator
Goggles
Scanner Radio
Act 1 Video Player
Shake Them All!
System
Places Directory
Network Discovery
Extended Controls
SwitchPro Widget
Google Sky Map
Digital Rain
WiFi Manager
Gmote
Barcode Scanner
LED Desire Light
Google Translate
Text Edit
Remote Desktop
App List
ES File Explorer
runstar™
Contact Owner
The point is, the phone was working properly till the update.

I updated my phone yesterday as well with the OTA update. Now my phone discharges from 100% to 93% instantly from taking it off charge. I know this is an on going problem that has been happening to people since the phones launch, but mine was fine, it never did that until today.. the first time I charged it since I did the update. Coincidence? Somehow I think not

I guess the first thing to do would be a factory reset.
I have the latest update on my Desire and everything works great, certain things are better.

I'll give it a hard reset tonight when I have the time to put all the settings back to how I want. I don't want to loose all my save data on some of my games though, like totemic.. I wont play it again if I have to some of those levels again lol

My phone has just shut down by itself and the only way I was able to start it was by pulling the battery. I have the phone for some time and it's the first time something like this has happened so it has to be because of the update. Also, right after the update some of my widgets (Messages and Wi-Fi) were gone! Battery life seems worse.

I had a few problems when i updated too. but a factory reset made everithing work like a charm. (unrooted)

oursoul said:
make a gold card and flash the full generic ROM to your phone
if that doesn't work then you need to return it
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Bad idea there... You're going to have issues with returning it after flashing a generic ROM...
Have any of the networks actually rolled out this update?

I agree with the battery life being A LOT worse after the update. And I did flash the whole generic Rom onto it. My battery life was amazing before the update. I think it must be something to do with the radio, as they changed it in the update. Gutted now as I can't downgrade again either.
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I've noticed some slow UPS also occasionally .
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reaperSKD said:
I agree with the battery life being A LOT worse after the update. And I did flash the whole generic Rom onto it. My battery life was amazing before the update. I think it must be something to do with the radio, as they changed it in the update. Gutted now as I can't downgrade again either.
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You can flash an older radio without changing the rom, but I think it you need to root first.

My battery life is awesome on this rom. My phones been off charge for 15 hours and its at about 70% now. Any other rom I've used previously custom or stock have given me far worse results.
Interesting to see how there is such a mixed bag of results.

Hi, after I updated OTA I lost WiFi after a couple of days, not immediately... I read here that removing battery helps so I did it. The problem is gone (for now at least)
But I don't want to remove the battery every few days.
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Well, just did a hard reset.
The phone wasn't turning on anymore.
It doesn't seem to work better either.
I still get the white startup screen and thats it.
No access to the phone, occasionally after a few tries it will login.
Really disappointed.

your issue
krpano said:
well, thanks for the fast feedback and sorry if i am a bit harsh.
But i actually avoid rooting/flashing to skip any kind of problems.
I just want the phone to work.
I depend on my phone when i am working.
Colornote
compass
connectbot
gdocs
androidvnc
wifi analyzer
gstrings
2010 world cup south africa
calltrack
dropbox
keepassdroid
terminal emulator
goggles
scanner radio
act 1 video player
shake them all!
System
places directory
network discovery
extended controls
switchpro widget
google sky map
digital rain
wifi manager
gmote
barcode scanner
led desire light
google translate
text edit
remote desktop
app list
es file explorer
runstar™
contact owner
the point is, the phone was working properly till the update.
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you call this a few apps....????

BTW I have this update on my unrooted unbranded desire and it works fine, no hangs no problems works just as it did.
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Thanks for the feedback.
It seems i am the only one unlucky.
:-(

[Q] Cannot root new Incredible

Hello- I've been reading around this site and I am not sure if what I've found is accurate, I could use the help of those that are informed.
I'm new to Android having only gotten my first incredible yesterday. I tried using unrevoked (v. 3.21 to the best of my knowledge) on windows after installing the appropriate drivers and was unsuccessful two or three times. It would hang at waiting for root or 'we can't get root,' were the two messages I'd receive.
I reset to factory from the bootloader and tried this again on my Mac machine- this was different but still unsuccessful. It would still say 'waiting for root,' however the phone itself was stuck powered on with nothing on the screen. It took me unplugging the mini USB and removing the battery to finally get it to power back on and show something on the screen.
With that said, is there an update from Verizon that causes unrevoked to no longer work? I read that somewhere but am unsure how recent the information is.
Secondly- what I really want to do is enable the Wifi Hotspot feature without having to fork MORE money over to Verizon- am I going down the right path to enable this?
Lastly- can someone please provide a good thread I can read up on regarding handling future updates for Android OS- I assume OTA updates are disabled once rooted, how do I continue to make sure my OS is up to date when this is disabled?
Thanks in advance for your help!

satyr2k2 said:
Hello- I've been reading around this site and I am not sure if what I've found is accurate, I could use the help of those that are informed.
I'm new to Android having only gotten my first incredible yesterday. I tried using unrevoked (v. 3.21 to the best of my knowledge) on windows after installing the appropriate drivers and was unsuccessful two or three times. It would hang at waiting for root or 'we can't get root,' were the two messages I'd receive.
I reset to factory from the bootloader and tried this again on my Mac machine- this was different but still unsuccessful. It would still say 'waiting for root,' however the phone itself was stuck powered on with nothing on the screen. It took me unplugging the mini USB and removing the battery to finally get it to power back on and show something on the screen.
With that said, is there an update from Verizon that causes unrevoked to no longer work? I read that somewhere but am unsure how recent the information is.
Secondly- what I really want to do is enable the Wifi Hotspot feature without having to fork MORE money over to Verizon- am I going down the right path to enable this?
Lastly- can someone please provide a good thread I can read up on regarding handling future updates for Android OS- I assume OTA updates are disabled once rooted, how do I continue to make sure my OS is up to date when this is disabled?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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You most likely have the latest OTA update, which patches the exploit that UnrEVOked 3.21 used to get root. They are currently working on a new exploit for the recent OTA update now.
If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick: http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/showthread.php?54386-Android-OS-htc-incredible-free-wifi-tethering
Usually the OTA's get incorporated into later ROM releases, so all you'll have to do is download and install the new release for your custom ROM.
If you prefer to have a stock, but rooted ROM, you can download the rooted stock ROMs that usually come out after OTA updates.
Or, usually, there are leaked updates released before the official update comes out. Those are also rooted and usually posted here as well, if you want early release things.
I hope I helped you out, need anything else cleared up?
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Blah12543 said:
If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick: http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/showthread.php?54386-Android-OS-htc-incredible-free-wifi-tethering
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Woah. I've been searching these forums for two weeks looking for this, and thought that my only choice is to root the dang phone. Does this not alert VZW about the usage, or can they only tell how much data is being used?
I just tested this with the "wifi hotspot" app that's on the (unrooted) Incredible, and holy crap it worked! If this works out then I've just solved my only major gripe with having the Incredible on Verizon!

If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick:
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I agree- this works wonderfully just with the default preloaded Mobile Hotspot app.
I am wondering if there is still any reason for me to unlock the phone.

GreNME said:
Woah. I've been searching these forums for two weeks looking for this, and thought that my only choice is to root the dang phone. Does this not alert VZW about the usage, or can they only tell how much data is being used?
I just tested this with the "wifi hotspot" app that's on the (unrooted) Incredible, and holy crap it worked! If this works out then I've just solved my only major gripe with having the Incredible on Verizon!
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By changing the dun nai, its supposed to disable the "tell VZW I'm using this app" thing. I'm not sure about this one, but I think they can still see you're using data, just not that its from the hotspot app. Just know, if they can somehow track/tell you're using it and you get caught, I'm not to be held liable lol. Blame the guy who made the post I showed you lol. Just a little disclaimer, just in case.
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satyr2k2 said:
I agree- this works wonderfully just with the default preloaded Mobile Hotspot app.
I am wondering if there is still any reason for me to unlock the phone.
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ROMs/kernels/tweaks/mods.
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Blah12543 said:
ROMs/kernels/tweaks/mods.
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Sure. What I mean is- I originally wanted to root it only to enable the functionality of the Wifi Hotspot. What functionality can I add by rooting my phone in addition to this?
I don't really see the advantage of having to update my ROM manually any time there is an Android OS update- what's the value?

satyr2k2 said:
Sure. What I mean is- I originally wanted to root it only to enable the functionality of the Wifi Hotspot. What functionality can I add by rooting my phone in addition to this?
I don't really see the advantage of having to update my ROM manually any time there is an Android OS update- what's the value?
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SetCPU was a big selling point in my eyes back when I first rooted. You can underclock the processor while the screen is off to help save battery. But, that kind of stuff is built into some kernels now (Kings BFS6, for example). But, if you want your phone to run a bit faster and smoother, you can overclock. I also like running different ROMs with themes and stuff. The customization is pretty neat imo. Like on this ROM: I have a few (6) quick settings I can change in the notifications bar. Just little conveniences like that win me over lol. And, there are leaked versions of official releases incorporated in to ROMs earlier than they're rolled out. I was running Froyo back in late July lol. Applying different ROMs/updates to the ROMs isn't hard or inconvenient at all... Only when your battery is low does it suck lol. If you wanna remove bloatware, no problem. And, if you ever mess up somewhere, you can usually apply a Nandroid backup you previously made and be good to go.
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Haha yeah, I won't be blaming anyone but myself if VZ comes after me. It's still nice to try out. I'm posting this now from my Samsung Tab using the tethered WiFi. Connection looks good!

GreNME said:
Haha yeah, I won't be blaming anyone but myself if VZ comes after me. It's still nice to try out. I'm posting this now from my Samsung Tab using the tethered WiFi. Connection looks good!
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Sweet glad I could help
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[Q] Major problem!!!

not sure where to begin, i suppose by listing my phone specs after root--
using the galaxy s2, (epic 4g touch) using kernal 2.6.35-8lostkernelexp+, build number starburst 11.13.11 v1.9.8r and running nothing but the honey theme.
i rooted the phone about a week ago and until today, everything seemed to work fine, then suddenly, i was unable to send pictures via text. not a real big issue, but i travel alot and sending pics back home by messages i a big deal for me. i thought it was just somethin with the phone, and after rebooting and rebooting to see if it would correct, it did not. however, normal text's would go through, just not any pics. i could send and receive normal words with no issues.
then just today, i totally lost internet connection--although the 3g is lit up on top, and i have 4 full bars of signal, i cannot surf, all i get is "unable to display webpage". since im at home, i turned on the wifi option and connected through the router in my house, and all worked fine-- i got online, send pic texts, etc...but when i turned wifi off, nothing.
now, back when i rooted the phone, i still kept getting the annoying "system update" messages that the phone normally does, forcing me to install whatever update the phone grabs. to prevent that, i did the steps on this site which was here--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778&highlight=freeze+ota
and disabled my update notifications. well, back to the beginning--now i have no internet at all and god only knows what else is wrong that i have yet to discover.
only thing i can think of at this point, is to unroot the phone , return it to the way it was and see how it goes but i dont want to do that--
any ideas?

yes im a noob said:
not sure where to begin, i suppose by listing my phone specs after root--
using the galaxy s2, (epic 4g touch) using kernal 2.6.35-8lostkernelexp+, build number starburst 11.13.11 v1.9.8r and running nothing but the honey theme.
until today, everything seemed to work fine, then suddenly, i was unable to send pictures via text. not a real big issue, but i travel alot and sending pics back home by messages i a big deal for me. however, normal text's would go through, just not any pics. i could send and receive normal words with no issues.
then, totally lost internet connection--although the 3g is lit up on top, and i have 4 full bars of signal, i cannot surf, all i get is "unable to display webpage". since im at home, i turned on the wifi option and connected through the router in my house, and all worked fine-- i got online, send pic texts, etc...but when i turned wifi off, nothing.
now, back when i rooted the phone, i still kept getting the annoying "system update" messages that the phone normally does, forcing me to install whatever update the phone grabs. to prevent that, i did the steps on this site which was here--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778&highlight=freeze+ota
and disabled my update notifications. well, back to the beginning--now i have no internet at all and god only knows what else is wrong that i have yet to discover.
only thing i can think of at this point, is to unroot the phone , return it to the way it was and see how it goes but i dont want to do that--
any ideas?
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Why not nandroid a backup of your current setup and then do a full factory reset wipe and ODIN over a stock rom and see if that fixes it...if it does then there is no reason to bring a perfectly good phone back.
Diagnostic process bro, get on it.
However if that doesn't yield any results? Might be bad hardware (which I doubt) and probably not your fault.
EDIT: You haven't changed your PRL by chance, have you? Sometimes on 11115 or 00001 I get intermittent MMS function...and a few times, legit PRL or not, my wifi/4g have just stopped working. A wipe and stock-restore took care of that every time...though that was a week or two after the phone came out and we didn't have nearly as many tools and options as we do now.
Also, are you sure that you haven't somehow disabled 3G or put it into airplane mode? As insulting as that sounds I have to ask....
...sometimes even the brightest of us forget to plug things in.

Odin restore would be the first step.

I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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Beejis said:
I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...

The mms issues are likely a limitation of the ROM you are running (I haven't run Starburst in a couple of months so you'll have to ask about that in the ROM thread.) Easily resolved by using a third party app for mms if it is an important feature for you.
As far as the rest, the code provided by beejis is the reprovisioning code, also called a hands free reset and there is a bit more to the process than he stated (at least for a noob.) Hit the toolkit link in my signature and you'll find step by step instructions.
If that doesn't work, starting fresh is an incredibly simple process.
Also, posting the exact same question in two different forums is breaking a Cardinal rule, so you probably want to refrain from that, it won't win you many friends.
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Beejis said:
I would try ##72786# in the dialer then entering your msl. After that just just hut yes then let your phone do its thing and reboot and reactivate. Just remember to cancel it during the firmware check.
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yes i tried that, after the phone reboots, it says uptop "device not activated" and nothiing....i have to manually go into settings/about phone/system update and do it from there and even then, after a few secs, i get an error message saying unable to complete...

daneurysm said:
Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...
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yes, tried that to.....get nothing but "error cannot complete" messages. all i can do now is make calls

If you have titanium backup, go into that app then click backup/restore at the top. Find system updates and click on it to see if it's frozen, if it is defrost it. Then try my steps again. Other than that I'd try to Odin a stock ROM.
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daneurysm said:
Good call...or even just trying to refresh your profile under 'updates' would be the easiest place to start...
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ok thanks, i went back to odin stock rom, did it from qbking77's post and the phone is back on stock...however............still no internet/data!!
i did do the ##number thing, the phone rebooted but notihng happened--i thought it was supposed to auto activate or something. so i went into settings/about phone/update profile....it scanned and after a few mins, i still get the error message "update could not be completed, if problem persists contact sprint customer support"
so im back on factory rom, but nothings changed---im where i was before--no data/internet....
before installing a different rom and such, i figure ill stop here and see what other suggestions may come about....sooooo, what next?

Take your phone in to a sprint store, an exchange may be in your future.

Just_s said:
Also, posting the exact same question in two different forums is breaking a Cardinal rule, so you probably want to refrain from that, it won't win you many friends.
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yes indeed, sorry about that. when i made the post here, i originally couldnt find it and thought it was auto deleted somehow because i had checked "is this a question" button at the bottom, so i went into the q/a section and made the post there...
didnt mean to do it twice

phatmanxxl said:
Take your phone in to a sprint store, an exchange may be in your future.
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gee i hope not... i got the phone dec 14th, cant imagine having probs this early....
what if i did a total wipe, factory reset? i know ill loose everything on the phone, and now that its not rooted any longer, i have no way to back up anything (or at least not that i know of)
just hoping theres a better fix than a return/ factory reset

Now that you are stock, call sprint tell them your issue (only tell then internet doesn't work) and they'll do stuff on their end to trouble shoot it. Hopefully that will fix it.
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I would try this. This will reset you back to exactly the way you got the phone. If you are still having problems then you will have to take it back to Sprint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmEmheJnyg

cds0699 said:
I would try this. This will reset you back to exactly the way you got the phone. If you are still having problems then you will have to take it back to Sprint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vmEmheJnyg
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thanks. thats exactly what i did before you made this reply hehe...
as before, still no data/internet

yes im a noob said:
thanks. thats exactly what i did before you made this reply hehe...
as before, still no data/internet
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That sucks, I'd recommend taking the phone to Sprint/where you bought it, and get it replaced/fixed. Good news is you're now back on stock so they won't really look into rooting as a problem. I always put phones back to stock before I take it in for a claim.

cds0699 said:
That sucks, I'd recommend taking the phone to Sprint/where you bought it, and get it replaced/fixed. Good news is you're now back on stock so they won't really look into rooting as a problem. I always put phones back to stock before I take it in for a claim.
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yea, dunno...
i did call sprint per Beejis reply here just above yours. after going through a ton of crap that i did yesterday and all today, the ## number crap, they tell me there's a nationwide outage. now i find that hard to believe since both my other phones in the house, wife/kid work just fine and they have data/internet and other ppl i know have no problems....i told the tech person that it just must be my phone only cuz everyone else's seems to work.
she did give me an outage number, maybe someone on here can verify it -- 8622911 so who the heck knows. what i do know is, i sure spent a heck of alota time on here, resetting my phone, unrooting, blahh blahh just to find out there's an outage which i doubt in the first place ...
we'll see,,,,,

If you are now stock/rooted, sounds like you need to use sfhubs auto root script to go back to stock recovery (overwrite your custom recovery) unroot, and take it back to Sprint.

DataHawg said:
If you are now stock/rooted, sounds like you need to use sfhubs auto root script to go back to stock recovery (overwrite your custom recovery) unroot, and take it back to Sprint.
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its just stock odin at this point, as if it came from the store.
also, still no data/internet as of this morning. dont know why sprint
is telling me this bs story of an outage, and even if so, i find it way hard to beleive its a 4 day outage
but yes, looks like im headed back to the store-- i got it at best buy, have insurance and all that, but ill wait till tomorrow or something just in case this phantom outage corrects itself
by the way, where do i find this sfhubs root your talking about?
oh one other thing i discovered today also, now gps dont work either, no location, no search no nothing and it is turned on......... sigh

[Q] R800X Failing At Step 3 of OTA

I did everything right (at least I'm pretty sure). I quadruple checked to ensure that there were no traces of root on my phone (Last time I was rooted the Software Update wouldn't even open, so I know I'm not rooted). I made sure that all system apps were restored prior to unroot. I kept it connected to a constant power source. Everytime I try to update (I think I'm at attempt #6 ) it fails at the 3rd step. Superuser is nowhere to be found on my Play. Does anyone have any ideas? The last thing I want to do is a full system restore, because wouldn't that require me activating it again?

GHRocker08 said:
I did everything right (at least I'm pretty sure). I quadruple checked to ensure that there were no traces of root on my phone (Last time I was rooted the Software Update wouldn't even open, so I know I'm not rooted). I made sure that all system apps were restored prior to unroot. I kept it connected to a constant power source. Everytime I try to update (I think I'm at attempt #6 ) it fails at the 3rd step. Superuser is nowhere to be found on my Play. Does anyone have any ideas? The last thing I want to do is a full system restore, because wouldn't that require me activating it again?
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I wouldnt worry about OTA, just restore the nandroid that netiznt posted. I have 2.3.4. on my phone now with DoomKernel and root. Just did a nandroid restore in recovery. Works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630348

Would that wipe stuff like my texts and whatnot? I'm new to all of this so I don't know too much yet. Would the nandroid basically be the upgrade without the hassle of Verizon's OTA service, or would my version still say 2.3.3 if I go to About Phone? I just don't want to lose all of that data and stuff.

GHRocker08 said:
Would that wipe stuff like my texts and whatnot? I'm new to all of this so I don't know too much yet. Would the nandroid basically be the upgrade without the hassle of Verizon's OTA service, or would my version still say 2.3.3 if I go to About Phone? I just don't want to lose all of that data and stuff.
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Just to show you, I just checked for an OTA update and it said I was current. I would highly recommend you do a nandroid backup of what you hae now, then once thats done restore the new 2.3.4 nandroid. It will be like a fresh wipe on your phone.

Would I be able to restore messages from the nandroid backup of my phone? If the OTA fails, I'll definitely do this then. Did you notice any improvements from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4?

Sorry about the double post but I just checked everything in my root folder, and when I got to the system apks, I noticed that the dates on them were 30 May 2012... Could the fact that those dates didn't even happen yet be interfering with the OTA? Maybe it does some sort of date check, and future dates returned some kind of error message. What do you guys think?

I had the same problem, no matter what you do its not gonna work. However if you follow my instructions here you can get it to work, and then reload your user data in. Don't use the 2.3.4 nandroid backup they are talking about, WiFi and camera don't work, and its for unlocked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25572068&postcount=503

I would have to call Verizon to activate my phone though wouldn't I?

GHRocker08 said:
I would have to call Verizon to activate my phone though wouldn't I?
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no it activates automatically, hit the speaker button, listen to the message, press 1 when it tells you, and you're done.

Oh alright that sounds better. The person in charge of the plan (my mom since I'm only 17) wouldn't be notified of any of this would they?

GHRocker08 said:
Oh alright that sounds better. The person in charge of the plan (my mom since I'm only 17) wouldn't be notified of any of this would they?
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Nope, there no notification, its like if your phone broke and you got a new one, or if you did a perfectly reasonable factory reset, the ESN is already associated with your account, so you're fine.

Alright awesome thanks! If this last update attempt doesn't work I guess I have no choice but to do this.

GHRocker08 said:
Alright awesome thanks! If this last update attempt doesn't work I guess I have no choice but to do this.
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My way works perfectly, just takes a while, close to 2 hours...

Well before I spend 2 hours on a weekday in the middle of the day, what benefits are there in this update? I'll wait till Friday night if there's not much there.

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Well before I spend 2 hours on a weekday in the middle of the day, what benefits are there in this update? I'll wait till Friday night if there's not much there.
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Noticeable ones?
The camera now uses the right trigger to take pics
720p video recording
If you hold down the power button it takes a screenshot
It has a new piece of Verizon bloatware to delete (Verizon Video).
Facebook Sync seems to be fixed, but its actually still broken
Most importantly though, if and when the PSN store is released it will only work with 2.3.4 or better. Some people have anticipated its release this week.
As for spending 2 hours, you aren't really doing much during that 2 hours, you can probably watch TV and not get screwed up lol.

You had me at PSN Store! Hopefully it happens this week because converting all my ISOs with PSXperia is a lot of work haha. I guess I can take a break from texting for 2 hours and play with my iPad if this OTA attempt doesn't work... all of my SMS and MMS will be restored at the end of your method right?

GHRocker08 said:
You had me at PSN Store! Hopefully it happens this week because converting all my ISOs with PSXperia is a lot of work haha. I guess I can take a break from texting for 2 hours and play with my iPad if this OTA attempt doesn't work... all of my SMS and MMS will be restored at the end of your method right?
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yep its restored up to the moment you took your nandroid backup at the start of the process.

Oh alright awesome! Definitely gonna do that when this update downloads (and probably fails)

Help troubleshooting generalized lag symptoms that persist between ROMs

Hi everyone,
I've been trying new ROMs and kernels since I got my M8 about a year ago. Ever since I switched away from Sense ROMs to GPE and AOSP, I've noticed that my phone has become debilitatingly slow on a semi-regular basis until I do a clean flash (and even then, the speed lasts for only a couple days max after restoring my apps).
Specifically:
- In general, apps and system activity will freeze mid-use
- Phone calls will sometimes cause my phone to vibrate for a bit before letting me act on them (and even so, my phone may be too frozen to act at all)
- Screen power-on sometimes takes a few tries
- Major 3rd party like Uber, Snapchat, etc- will take a long time to load and stutter more frequently during use
- Camera takes a good amount of time to load regardless of app
I'm mostly trying to figure out if there's something wrong with my approach to ROM selection, backup/restoring, or kernel configuration, because none of this feels how using a year-old flagship should.
Here's my current flow between ROMs: Backup all user apps, accounts, and other ROM-agnostic attributes with Titanium Pro; factory reset with TWRP; install ROM + gapps with TWRP; reboot, log in with Google to install Titanium; restore all missing apps + system data with Titanium. I've used DH's GPE, BlissPop, CM 12.1, and Candy5- all with the same result of general slowness and unusability after a couple days of use.
Things to note which I suspect may be possible culprits:
- I haven't ever cleared out internal storage, but try to keep ~5 gb free at a time.
- I have 3-4 Google accounts synced at once.
- I regularly use Facebook, Snapchat, and Uber/Lyft- all of which feel somewhat bloated and don't adhere to Android guidelines too well as far as I can tell
Things I've tried to cut down on lag:
- Greenified aforementioned bloated apps
- Messed with kernel I/O, clock speed, and governor settings with little or temporary success (I stick to stock settings now)
- Clearing running apps regularly (which I hate to do- Android should be able to handle processes just fine)
Currently running Candy5, latest build on Verizon.
Hopefully I've been thorough enough in my descriptions to give someone an idea of how to make my phone work as well as I know it should. Looking forward to getting to the bottom of this, and thanks so much in advance for anyone who wants to put the time in to help me out.

Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.

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Only thing to suggest is not to restore apps and accounts. Set it up fresh from the beginning and run the basic needs for a week see if that helps. Terrible issues can appear when you restore apps that are originally installed on another rom.
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Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!

pickleman77 said:
Exactly the type of input I was looking for. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!
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Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?

ned4spd8874 said:
Have you had much luck with this? I'm also experiencing unbearable lag no matter which ROM I choose. Nothing I've tried has worked and it was suggested in a thread that I created (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/unable-to-stable-rom-m8-t3179661/) that I reach out to you to see if you've made progress or not with this issue?
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Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.

Slim zero gapps package works well for me also.
http://104.236.22.120/gapps/lollipop/5.1/Slim_zero_gapps.BETA.5.1.build.0.x-20150820.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/slimroms/general/gapps-official-slim-gapps-trds-slimkat-t2792842
I also had a feeling it could have been a full wipe issue (need click on advance to get to other wipes).
Always let google install my apps also (57 apps).
Never have had a lag problem with Dirty Unicorns.

pickleman77 said:
Yo! Saw your post a bit earlier. I finally go around to doing a full wipe (that's system/data/cache/internal, not just a factory reset), and only backing up the essentials (no apps- essentially just homescreen layout). Then, I installed DirtyUnicorns and the linked GAPPS, then restored apps from my Google account instead of Titanium. Been going strong for 2 days or so now, but I can't be sure that'll stick around. Honestly, if a full wipe doesn't fix these issues, I'm convinced nothing will, so I'm hoping for the best.
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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.

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Yeah, I'm kinda doing the same thing now too. Previously I didn't quite use TB to restore my apps like you did; I just restored the data manually for certain apps, but I'm not even doing that this time. I'm just slowly installing apps one by one and giving it a day or at least a few hours of use before installing the next. It's super slow going and sucks to not have all my apps, but I just don't know what to do.
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I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!

pickleman77 said:
I hear you. I'm convinced the full wipe was the solution, but it hasn't really been long enough to know for sure. Keep me updated, and I'll do the same for you!
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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?

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I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Yep, I did. It definitely helped briefly, but opening certain apps would bog the entire thing down. Never quite felt the way it should have.

Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?

Vandam500 said:
Same thing for me too. Have tried all the best/popular ROMs and eventually I have unbearable lag. Only thing I've done between ROMs is restore apps via Titanium Backup (Just the apps, no data). Wonder if installing the apps 1 by 1 via the play store really helps or not?
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Still figuring it out myself. I tried to go to both the latest VenomOne ROM and the last KK version of it and neither would load on my phone. Went back to DU and so far so good. But it's only been about 8 hours. Trying to restore as little data from TB as possible.

Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.

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Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Interesting, I couldn't even get it installed on my phone this time! I've been running Dirty Unicorns for a couple days now, installed most of my apps and am having no issues yet. However, I do miss the TMO wifi calling. That's going to be a problem since one of my work locations has basically zero cell coverage.

FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.

ned4spd8874 said:
I'm still not convinced the full wipe will do it. I did that a couple iterations ago when I was going between ROMS and it didn't help then. The only difference between then and now is I'm going very slowly installing the apps back in and also avoiding restoring the data (data only) from TB unless I absolutely have to.
One oddity for me was when this would happen, if I would go into the recent item listing and cleared it, that would make a huge difference performance wise. Did you experience the same thing?
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Update for me. I was tired of the lag once again (Was on this 7/7/2015-Lollipop Stock Rooted Google Play Edition LMY47O.H6). I downloaded Venom 4.3.0. Performed a wipe 3 times in TWRP and then also wipe in Venom. It's only been around 12 hours since I flashed it but holy crap this is crazy fast. I did not do any TB backup or any app restore of any sort, just did it all manually via the Play Store. Now typically, when I flash new ROMs it seems to be pretty fast but I don't recall it ever being this fast. Hopefully this sticks. I'll post an update in a few days.
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One thing I found on Reddit just now. Apparently Accessibility features lag phones, see thread here https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3i31fs/psa_accessibility_can_cause_your_phone_to_appear/ Only thing I ever recall using was LastPass so if could fill in the credentials for other apps. I just disabled the accessibility for it so I guess we'll see.
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Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).

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FML
Something has to be wrong with my phone. DU runs better, but still not 100% smooth. I still find that clearing the recent apps helps, but it wasn't like that a couple months ago. I don't know if I dropped my phone or the internal memory is damaged somehow or what. But it's still locking randomly and just not smooth.
Now I gotta figure out how to unroot and bring it back to stock so that TMO doesn't give me crap about replacing this thing.
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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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Keep me updated. DU has slowed down since I installed it, but clearing recent apps seems to temporarily help things. Also started using Folio instead of Facebook, and relied more heavily on my Wear device, so things have been tolerable (albeit not great).
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So far all is good. I'm also not using Facebook or Facebook Messenger this time around. I have a shortcut on my homescreen to it and just browse with the browser. Works fine so far.

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That's so weird
Also, would probably be easier to RUU because that puts everything back to normal.
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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.

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But that wouldn't get rid of the bootloader, would it? I still have to research the steps to perform, but not only do I have to put stock ROM on it, but I have to replace the bootloader and recovery to try and get rid of all traces that it's been rooted (the red text at boot for example).
I won't be doing that until closer to the weekend anyways. So I still have a few days to figure it out and maybe in that time there'll be a breakthrough on why my phones doing this.
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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.

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Just out of curiosity, are you using a microSD, and if so, what size/kind? I've had a 64gb in mine forever (and wasn't even using it for anything), and I just unmounted it. Suddenly, everything is significantly smoother and the bugginess has gone away. It's only been about an hour, but I'm starting to think that might have been the problem all along.
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I am, but I have replaced it. I was using a 16GB one, but bought a 32GB when these problems started with the purpose of off loading programs to the SD card since the phones memory was getting full. The phone is no longer full since I've wiped and don't have that many programs installed anymore. I can try taking it out to see how things go.