Hello guys,
I posted this problem in leedroid's thread as well did not get any replies. I would really appreciate if any is kind enough to explain these major terms related to flashing of roms......i.e.
Kernel
Radio
S-off vs Radio-off
Stock Kernel vs Other Kernels
Besidws, this I have one issue, that my Lee HD Rom is a little bit lagging.
I am using the Lee Droid HD 3.0.3. I am pretty much new to flashing roms and in fact this is my first ever installation.
Also, I never installed any radio because I do not know what is it for?
I also did not install the stock kernel, again because I do lot know what is the first one for and why we need 2. Please be generous to my lack of knowledge.
Also, I have done a full wipe and everything. Any ideas, if installing the radio will help on getting rid of lagging abd making it run a bit smoother.
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Google is your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
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Ok i'll give this a shot.
Kernel - This is pretty much the backbone of the phone. It contains all the drivers, such as graphic driver, audio, touch driver, sensors etc. So optimizations in the kernel really improve overall performance. Lee probably has the best kernels.
Radio - This is responsible for functions such as wifi, bluetooth, phone signal. Pretty much all wireless functions.
S-OFF vs. Radio S-OFF - ok here my knowledge may be a little rusty. From what i remember, if you have ENG S-OFF, then you are able to flash the recover (CWM) and roms, and with Radio-OFF you are able to run fastboot commands as well as downgrade your radio version. Again not too sure on this one.
Stock Kernel vs. Other Kernel - well like i said earlier, the kernel contains all the drivers, so obviously a custom one will have optimizations here such as increased audio levels, improved GPU performance, overclocking CPU, and so on.
Ok as for you comment on Leedroid lagging, that is very unusual because imo Leedroid is the smoothest Sense experience around. After a full wipe fresh install there should be no lag, then reinstall your apps from the market (not Titanium), and after that's done restore only Data from Titanium. This will ensure there's no conflicts with apps which could be causing your lag somehow.
I really recommend you read up on flashing radios. You probably have an old one which does not match your rom version. It's always recommended to match your rom version with radio version. If they are not matching, then you could get bad signal and battery drain. Here's a guide on how to install radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
And here you can get the radio for your rom version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
Recommended for Leedroid is the Radio from 28 April 2011.
Since you are on Leedroid 3.0.3, there's no need for the stock kernel. Leedroid's kernel is WAY better, trust me So dont worry about that.
Ok so just to bring the point across more clear, these are the steps i suggest you follow for installing the rom and ensuring there's no problems.
-Backup all apps with Titanium
-In CWM perform full wipe
-Install Leedroid (I suggest you go for his newer version 3.1.0, it's much smoother)
-Once booted up let the market reinstall your apps (not titanium)
-Then use Titanium to restore data only after all apps have finished installing.
-Perform a full reboot for apps to restore data correctly.
-At this point i would follow the guide to install the radio.
And that should be it. Damn that's a mountain of text. Hope you (or anybody else) finds this helpful
SupremeBeaver said:
-At this point i would follow the guide to install the radio.
And that should be it. Damn that's a mountain of text. Hope you (or anybody else) finds this helpful
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Thanks a lot mate, just gonna backup my apps now for flashing the new version. Really appreciate your help and concern.
Just 2 more quick questions:
1) There are 3 options in Tit Backup:
#Backup all user apps or Backup all system data or Backup all user apps+System Data (which is better you reckon)
2) Is the radio to be installed in the end after installing all backups and apps and everything.
friendly.stranger said:
Thanks a lot mate, just gonna backup my apps now for flashing the new version. Really appreciate your help and concern.
Just 2 more quick questions:
1) There are 3 options in Tit Backup:
#Backup all user apps or Backup all system data or Backup all user apps+System Data (which is better you reckon)
2) Is the radio to be installed in the end after installing all backups and apps and everything.
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Hey there,
hmm lets see. Choose "Backup all user apps + system data. And when you finally install your apps choose "Restore all apps with data". Ok after selecting that make sure to tick "Data only" and here's the important bit, make sure to scroll through and untick all red system apps. Hopefully you have Titanium Pro because i think in the lite version you might have to do all this manually.
As for radio, truthfully it doesnt matter at all whether you flash it before or after the rom. You can choose because the radio is totally separate from the rom.
Hope this helps. Good luck and let me know if you run into any problems (which you shouldn't )
Woooah, a quick reply. You know what- "You Sir are a Rokstar"
And Thanks for your offer mate. Will be bak in sometime.
Take Care
friendly.stranger said:
Woooah, a quick reply. You know what- "You Sir are a Rokstar"
And Thanks for your offer mate. Will be bak in sometime.
Take Care
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Hehe no problem dood
I did install everything as instructed and I was indeed very happy with the smoothness. I was loving it until I installed all my apps again ad started inserting ma widgets. After I was done, the lagging came back.
Just to let you know, I am using Folder organizer widgets on 2 home screens. News' widgets on one, Friend Stream on one and People Widget on one. Some shortcuts on 1, Music Player, Evernote, Flixter, Htc Weather Animations, widget locker,
I think too may apps must be doing it......any suggestions. I am ok to start getting rid of apps. All I want is perfomance.
PS: DO You think set cpu would be any help, Downloaded it but not so sure on how to use it ??
friendly.stranger said:
I did install everything as instructed and I was indeed very happy with the smoothness. I was loving it until I installed all my apps again ad started inserting ma widgets. After I was done, the lagging came back.
Just to let you know, I am using Folder organizer widgets on 2 home screens. News' widgets on one, Friend Stream on one and People Widget on one. Some shortcuts on 1, Music Player, Evernote, Flixter, Htc Weather Animations, widget locker,
I think too may apps must be doing it......any suggestions. I am ok to start getting rid of apps. All I want is perfomance.
PS: DO You think set cpu would be any help, Downloaded it but not so sure on how to use it ??
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Well then it must be an app causing this. If i were you i would download one app at a time and check between installs to see if you still retain the smoothness. This way you can pinpoint the culprit. From the apps you mentioned i wouldn't be able to guess which one is responsible.
SetCPU is always good to have maybe for benchmarking but for general use not necessary. I don't use Setcpu yet i still have a super smooth experience.
Alright......Thanks. I think I would go for another wipe today.
Thanks for replying in lee's thread mate but more than information about flashing, I desire to understand the concept of md5 checksums.
Also, everyone keeps saying check the 'md5 sum' but with what should I match the kernel's md5 checksum........ROM or Radio or both? If I have to match it to ROM, does that mean the new kernel isn't compatible with the older version of ROM because how I understand it that the ROM v3.1.1 (the one am using) and new Kernel v3.1.4 will not really have same value for md5 checksum......isn't it?
I hope it does make sense, Thanks.
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friendly.stranger said:
Thanks for replying in lee's thread mate but more than information about flashing, I desire to understand the concept of md5 checksums.
Also, everyone keeps saying check the 'md5 sum' but with what should I match the kernel's md5 checksum........ROM or Radio or both? If I have to match it to ROM, does that mean the new kernel isn't compatible with the older version of ROM because how I understand it that the ROM v3.1.1 (the one am using) and new Kernel v3.1.4 will not really have same value for md5 checksum......isn't it?
I hope it does make sense, Thanks.
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An md5 checksum is simply a code attached to a file. So if you download a file and the md5 is different from the correct one (the one Lee provides), that means there is a difference in the file. So it could mean a corrupt download.
So what you do is download the rom or kernel, generate the md5 sum yourself with an app or program on your pc. This is the number specific to the file you just downloaded. Then you check to see if that matches the same number Lee provides for that same file. If it matches, then the file is exactly the same (not corrupt).
You can use this application to check the md5 of your files.
http://www.mediafire.com/?wuo55vkemcbbyxr
Simply drag the file into the exe and it will open up with a long string of numbers and letters.
So to give an example, you download Lee's latest rom, drag the file into that md5sums.exe i linked, then it gives the code. Check to see if it's the same as the one Lee wrote next to the download link for the rom.
Hope im understandable.
Thanks man. I think using astro file manager for taking the md5 sum is far easier...isn't it?
And you always are understandable.....
Take care
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i have a couple of questions that are burning a hole in my head so i need to let loose with them.
1)
how can i tell what rom i flashed? i know dumb a$$ question but i forgot which rom i flashed since it was one that came out the night 2.2 official was dumped and it was the first stock 2.2 deodexed released.
i have several (ok a crap load) downloaded and a few on my sdcard. how can i tell which stock deodexed 2.2 rom i flashed? is there an app that will tell me. Phone's software info doesnt have the authors name in the version name, so i cant tell which.
2)
i want to try a few other rom's but dont want to lose the rom i have because everyting works 100% and i like that, regardless of who makes the rom.
what can i use to backup my current phone memory so that if i dont like the other roms i can just revert back.
nand backup doesnt do this right? (even though the size of the backup to me denotes it just might be the ticket)
3)
is there an app, via market, here, or sdk tools/emulator where i can take and tweak the speed at which things open.
its my thought that many roms are faster because the opening speed is altered so things open faster. just like you can do in LauncherPro.
is there a way that i can do this within the phone or externally to a file or two and then adb it back to the phone?
4)
i will add more, i am forgetting some i know.
1) well i can tell you what kernel, by going to about phone> software info
2)use rom manager when installing new rom, and itll ask u to make a backup, so when ever u want to go back to the old rom, restoe u last backup
3)i dont know about open close speed, but for phone speed itself, use setCPU and that controls how much of the CPU is being used when its (charging, screen off, etc.)
thanks Rocklee,
1)
kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
2)
i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
1)
kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
2)
i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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2) ROM Manager is just fine. If you buy into the rumors about ClockworkMod not wiping correctly, just flash Amon RA instead, you can use either one with RM. You can download ROMs over the normal Internet, too, you know. Just copy them to the root of your SD card.
v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
1)
kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
2)
i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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1 - check the software information screen under software number - some devs put their infor there - mine says "Baked Snack 1.2.5" telling me exactly what ROM I'm using.
2 - I don't use ROM Manager anymore because frankly, I just don't trust it. I don't know what it's wiping when it says clear cache, and there have been too many questions with how efective it wipes, even through recovery. Having said that, if you do want to back up, I would recommend not doing it through rom manager, but directly through recovery instead (hold volume down and power with the phone off). From here, you can nand a full backup, and also restore that backup to get your phone to the exact same state it was in if you screw up somewhere.
3 - nothing on this - pretty sure that's specific to launcherpro.
Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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v_lestat said:
Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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Just a quick tip using Nand....once you create a backup, plug your phone in to your computer, go on to your SD card in the folder named "nanadroid" open it and then open the folder with your device name on it and "rename" your backup to whatever you want. I created about 5 backups and then I wanted to flash a previous one and couldnt figure out which file was which lol. Oh and remember not to use spaces when renaming....use_underscores.
Launcherpro has setting that controls open and close speed. Stock is set at 4, but I set mine at 10, and everything is instant.
Edit: disregard, I didn't read your questions fully, sorry. Didn't see you mentioned Launcherpro.
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Hello everyone,
I just got myself a new HTC Desire with Vodafone Branding.
HBOOT : 0.800
Software number: 1.19.161.5 (I believe this should be Android 2.1)
Kernel version : 2.6.29-b7e82785 (I guess this is still HTC original)
I wanna root my phone and if I guess that I can do further, I am also thinking of using another rom.
My main concern is that the internal memory can not fit any more apps and I still want to add more, after searching in the internet I found out that I need to root and/or to use other rom.
Second concern...I just wanna learn..
I have downloaded Unrevoked3 and the H-Boot USB driver.
From what I have read, I am all set for rooting (gonna do this tomorrow evening after work and after I have calmed down a bit, I am a bit nervous cause this is my first time ).
I have removed the HTCsync but still keeping the drivers.
I also know that I will need ClockworkMod. Make EXT2/3/4 partition with at least 512MB (I would like to make it 1gb) and optional SWAP (perhaps I will make it 256mb, do I really need SWAP?).
So, please teach me on :
1. Now about the rom, I need an Android 2.2 with optimum stability and speed, to tell you the fact, I don't even now which one and where to get it.
2. Beside the main rom, do I need also the camera and radio rom to get them running? again where to get them? How do I install them? The same way as installing the main rom (from HBOOT recovery)? Before or after installing the main rom?
3. How to make the back up of my current rom, setting, and apps? I don't have much apps yet but perhaps I would need the backup if something went wrong.
I still a whole bunch of questions but I guess those will do for now.
Please be kind and help me one this one pleaassssseeeeeeeee...
Anyway...thanks in advance.
Read in development.
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1. This thread has all the rom's in it. It's all about personal taste but if you like sense i would recommend Leedroid to start with.
2. When you come form 2.1 you will need to upgrade your Radio, if you OTA upgrade to 2.2 before rooting you do not have to update your radio but you can. A link to the radio thread is also in the above link.
3.
Once you are rooted with unrevoked you can preform a nandroid form recovery or you can download Rom Manager from the market and backup via that.
If you just want to backup apps you can use titanium backup or you could sync your apps with appbrain and reinstall them.
About the ext partition, i think swap is not necessary and if you want a 1 gig partition use Gparted
Thank you very much for the answer.
I will look into those first.
If I found any trouble, I will ask you guys again.
Thank you again.
First, I wanna say thank you again.
I have read some review about the LeeDroid. It sounds very good.
I will pick LeeDroid as my first after market rom.
I will thus flash (.zip files are already downloaded in the PC) :
Leedroid 2.2e
Latest Radio ROM; 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.27
LeeDroid 2.2e Kernel Boot Fix (Just to be sure, because I don't how my desires proc can be OCed)
DSP Manager.
My last questions:
- Is there any particular order which rom I should flash first?
Example : LeeDroid - Radio - Kernel Fix - DSP manager
-Can I flash them all with only 1 reboot (flash everything and choose reboot only once in H-Boot recovery menu)? or Do I have to flash only one at a time, reboot, and flash the next one and reboot again?
I'm not sure about radio's.
But if you flash leedroid 2.2e you need to flash it and after it (without reboot) flash the bootfix kernel.
Addons and theme's should be flash after the first full boot.
that is the correct order
you must flash the rom first, reboot, then flash the rest all in one go. REMEBER the first reboot is important!!
Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!
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Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!
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check here for improved gaming performance, you can download leedroid kernel with boot fix, SD speed fix and GPU driver patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825304
h3llb3nd4 why is it important to reboot after rom flash?
It needs to install the boot images for the Rom.
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lots of things came up to me this weekend, I am not able to flash my Desire.
Since I am doing this for the first time, I would like to have a quite time for myself alone, so that I am calm during the flashing just in case if something went wrong.
well...I will do it (I hope) on next friday evening...
I will write again the progress next week.
Untill now all I have done is the rooting via Unrevoked3, and installing the rom manager from android market. I haven'T even formatted the sd card.
Thanks again.
OK, Go to hell with quiteness.
I can not wait hehehehe just to anxious to start flashing.
and.....
I did it...it works...
Thank you
Flashing is not that hard...hehehehe...
I have played with LeeDroid and I have to say...This can do a lot more than the original.
Hmmm...I a fan of Sense although some say it slows down the phone.
I have tried the HTC HD ROM on my Desire, I like the new sense but too bad the camera still doesn't work. I have to go back to LeeDroid just because of the camera problem.
|OP|,
I joined this forum because I am a newbie just like you (before you got your Jedi-Flashing Wings).
I too have a HTC Desire running Android 2.2 (Kernel 2.6.32.15). I have exactly the same problem as you had - I've run out of room for apps on internal memory and the standard Froyo apps2sd thing can't shift anything else to the SD card.
I'm really interested to learn how your phone handles apps now. Does your phone think it has 1 gig of internal memory? Are you able to shift every app to the SD card? Did you have to give up your HTC apps and widgets?
I would really appreciate any feedback.
Cheers!
Yup...limited room for installing apps is my main or perhaps my only reason of flashing my desire with modified rom.
- About the 1GB thing, well I didn't do it since I wanna try the flashing procedure just as it is described in youtube desire rom flashing guide (not confident enough to do it all alone), and it is shown in youtube using only 512MB
But, I will try it later (planned on december after I finish my university assignment).
-Well, I have flashed and used it only for about a day or two, so I am still not 100% sure, but all the apps I have downloaded and installed are all going to the SDCard. I guess all of them will eventually go to the SDCard.
-HTC Apps and widgets? Everything is there, as far as I noticed until now.
Now, I am enjoying the DSP equalizer, apps to SDCard (16GB ), but still afraid of OCing.
SMS, WLAN, Camera, E-Mail, etc. seem to work smooth, no bugs found so far.
My Desire seems to run faster than with the original rom, but it is just my subjectiv comparison.
The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps
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The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps
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If the storage are going down or used slowly, is it worth to have 1GB as EXT3 or just leave it be at 512MB?
Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install
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Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install
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Hahahahahahaha....
You got that one right on the spot.
Most of my apps are games.
Games are not considered as necessary apps.
I will stick with 512MB
Thanks EddyOS and |OS|,
This sounds awesome! I've got 14 MB remaining on my internal memory and a long list of apps I still want to play with.
With this news I'm going to jump into the whole flashing/rooting thing (incidently why do both of these terms have sexual overtones?).
LeeDroid here I come!
|O2| did you use the Unrevoked root method? Could you possibly post the youtube link that you mentioned? I am, as you were, quite anxious about turning my beloved Desire into an expensive paperweight so any extra tips would be very appreciated. (I have heard that it is fairly simple and has a very low risk but I'm still a bit hesitant)
Thanks again! What a wonderfully helpful community this is!
Hello,
I got my Desire HD a few weeks ago, it was locked on Three UK and I rooted and sim unlocked it to use it in Italy where I live.
I was playing with the application manager and noticed that there are a few apps that are installed on the phone (some Three UK apps, Bejeweled and so on) that are not showing at all in the apps list. They are in the installed applications of the application manager, but I can't do anything with them as all the controls for these apps are gray (not selectable). Anyone has any idea about what is happening?
I was also thinking to flash a stock ROM to get rid of all that unusable stuff and speed up the phone a bit (the Three splash screen makes boot crazy long), but I want to be sure I can go back to this ROM, if needed. I have a backup made with ClockworkMod, is it all I need or should I save something else first?
What stock ROM would be better for me to flash?
I am currently with OS build 1.37.771.3 and Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Thanks in advance for the help!
No advice at all?
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
Mr_JMM said:
My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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Okay, I think I explained myself the wrong way
I didn't want somebody to tell me what ROM is better as I know it really depends on personal preferences, that's the reason why there are so many different ones, right? What I meant is: what is the latest stock ROM that allows me to root the phone using Visionary+? Do I have to worry about OTA updates or can I just download and apply them?
For now I just want to have a "clean" phone, custom roms and further playing will come in the future
And, the second part of the question is if a system backup done using ClockworkMod is sufficient to get back to what I have now, if ever needed, or I do need to backup something else first.
Thanks!
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
Mr_JMM said:
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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Would I need to somehow backup Radio too? Or CWM backup saves it as well?
Ok, basically I discovered cyanogen 7 about a week ago and was pure ''
well since then I have gone from knowing nothing at all to having a rooted 2.2 (stock rom) GSM desire (A8181 - whatever that actually means), S -ON
I rooted with unrevoked and have clockworkmod 2.something.
now from what i understand I need to S -OFF so that I can use a program (run on the phone from ROM manager) to upgrade clockwork to 3.x then (correct me if i'm wrong, I'm a total noob dont forget xD) I can use ROM manager to download CM7 and instal all on the phone?
is that right? if not could someone please correct me
I've done a NANDroid backup
i think thats all i want to say :')
I get confused when browsing forums because people talk about things, especially abbreviations, that mean nothing to me xD
Thanks for the help guys
spears93 said:
Ok, basically I discovered cyanogen 7 about a week ago and was pure ''
well since then I have gone from knowing nothing at all to having a rooted 2.2 (stock rom) GSM desire (A8181 - whatever that actually means), S -ON
I rooted with unrevoked and have clockworkmod 2.something.
now from what i understand I need to S -OFF so that I can use a program (run on the phone from ROM manager) to upgrade clockwork to 3.x then (correct me if i'm wrong, I'm a total noob dont forget xD) I can use ROM manager to download CM7 and instal all on the phone?
is that right? if not could someone please correct me
I've done a NANDroid backup
i think thats all i want to say :')
I get confused when browsing forums because people talk about things, especially abbreviations, that mean nothing to me xD
Thanks for the help guys
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not an expert on the S-OFF side of things but ive been flashing various ROMS without ever needing to S-OFF.
Been using LeeDroid and now GingerVillain (and tried a few more along the way).
For info the GingerVillain has CM7 stuff in it and is pretty stable. Once you have flashed GingerVillain once it has its own setup for flashing updates/patches etc.
But you are right to always take a nandroid backup first. the one time i forgot my flash screwed up
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not an expert on the S-OFF side of things but ive been flashing various ROMS without ever needing to S-OFF.
Been using LeeDroid and now GingerVillain (and tried a few more along the way).
For info the GingerVillain has CM7 stuff in it and is pretty stable. Once you have flashed GingerVillain once it has its own setup for flashing updates/patches etc.
But you are right to always take a nandroid backup first. the one time i forgot my flash screwed up
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That's sound advice because I'm not set on cyanogen however I don't know how I'd go about flashing GingerVillain :')
And how sure are you it's alright with S-ON because I don't like the sound of a £250 paperweight
thanks though
well ive never changed my S status .....
Download ROM Manager from the Market. Make sure you install clockworkmod recovery (using ROM Manager). Backup current ROM (using ROM Manager). Download GingerVillain latest version. Flash ROM from SD card (using ROM Manager)
Any future updates to GingerVillain you can use the 'Villain Setup' utility that you will find in your app list once the Flash is complete.
If its your first ever flash be aware that you should make sure the battery level is high, and that it may take several minutes (so dont panic !)
As long as you backup first everything should be fine (although there is always some risk).
Once you have finished your first Flash it will seem like you were worried about nothing
Oh ... and if you would prefer to stay with Froyo the LeeDroid ROM has a very good A2SD version
that sounds.... easy
thanks
and ROM manager says i already have CwM 2.5.0.7 -- so thats all cool, yeah?
Will my NANDroid backup count or shall I just do it again in ROM manager?
and I'm guessing I can download GV from within ROM manager?
sorry to ask all the newb questions but i'd rather be sure lol
Ive never bothered downloading ROMs from within ROM Manager but I believe you can.
As for the backup Id copy your existing backup to your PC and do another. You can never have too many backups
The backup will be in a sub folder on your SD card in a 'clockworkmod' directory.
oh ... and it generally is easy its just summing up courage for the first one.
Might be worth using titanium backup or my backup pro to take a copy of your apps if you dont want to lose where you have got to on Angry Birds etc
you can then restore them to your new ROM
Thanks
my phone is off to charge quicker at the minute then i'll give it a shot
one last question to be extra annoying
if i can't download GV within ROM man.
..could you provide a download link for me to manually slap in on my SD please
Seriously though, I'm really grateful!
They are all under the Desire Android dev sub forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880465
FINALLY about to do it and I've just thought..
Im on clockwork 2.x
don't i need 3.x for ext4 which makes gingerbread more stable?
also, ROM manager didn't have GV so i downloaded the zip from the link you gave me and extracted it to the root of my SD
rom manager doesnt find the image file, only the 3 folders
..and i feel really stupid :')
[edit 5 mins later]
NOT unzipping it was a better idea, its working now
...my excuse is that im learning
Good thing it worked for you. Some users have reported a host of problems flashing ROMs from ROM Manager. I'd advice you to do it the tried-and-tested old way: through Recovery (which in your case is ClockworkMod).
If you decide to repartition, ROM Manager can do that too, but that's not too advisable either, as some have reported problems with that method, and ROM Manager only allows up to 512Mb partitions, if I remember right.
funny that ^
ROM manager ended up leaving me on the white screen with the green HTC logo untill i pulled the battery
i did it through recovery and it worked a charm
just went through ALL of the settings and i LOVE it
there are a few things i dont like but i'm yet to try different themes etc yet
I'm a happy bunny!
Glad you managed the Flash OK
Never experienced any problems with ROM Manager myself ....
Thing is, now you have recovery and a nadroid backup you are fairly safe. Anything goes wrong you can recover to a previous image from recovery
I always keep a nadroid on my SD card just in case
Of course if you try S-OFF and all sorts of HBOOT changes then you expose yourself to more risk apparently so be careful.
Happy Flashing
oh ... and if you are on GingerVillain go to the Villain Setup and flash the adfree add on. For me it always takes 2 attempts to work, which is strange, but adfree is great
and on GingerVillain you also might want to flash the 'new market' add-on too ...
.... and then there are the Kernels to try too
A week from now you will wonder what you were worried about and will be flashing daily
wilbur-force said:
Glad you managed the Flash OK
Never experienced any problems with ROM Manager myself ....
Thing is, now you have recovery and a nadroid backup you are fairly safe. Anything goes wrong you can recover to a previous image from recovery
I always keep a nadroid on my SD card just in case
Of course if you try S-OFF and all sorts of HBOOT changes then you expose yourself to more risk apparently so be careful.
Happy Flashing
oh ... and if you are on GingerVillain go to the Villain Setup and flash the adfree add on. For me it always takes 2 attempts to work, which is strange, but adfree is great
and on GingerVillain you also might want to flash the 'new market' add-on too ...
.... and then there are the Kernels to try too
A week from now you will wonder what you were worried about and will be flashing daily
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I'm already wondering it
I though last night (well, 4.20 this morning) that I might bite the bullet and try flashing cyanogen
-which i did with sucess
then downloaded the google add on pack and added that
I felt all happy like
onr of my friends did his hero at the same time too because he was interested when i showed him
I think for now I'll keep cyanogen, but i've left it in note form: no homescreens properly set up, very few apps etc, until i find a ROM that I really like the look of
I'll keep ginger in mind though, especially as i hadn't tried the stuff you mentioned above
Hi there,
Saw the thread and thought i could help you with some information.
S-ON/OFF refers to Signature Verification on or off. S-ON stops things that the phone manufactuer do not want changed. It is totally separate to Root access to android. The main advantage of turning S-OFF is that you can change the size of the partitions on the device to give you more space for you apps. Basically playing around here can be dangerous if you are not aware of what it's actually doing at all times.
The great news is that as you have already discovered, you definately don't need to play with S-OFF to flash ROMs. Just root access and a recovery. The ClockworkMod 2.0.5.7 that comes with the Unrevoked root method should is fine for flashing all ROMs from ROM manager or by booting into recovery. But if any of your ROM instructions call for later versions you can just store the later version zip on your SD and use the older recovery to flash the newer version. It will be usable until your phone re-boots. You can't flash the image of the new recovery without S-OFF
Glad to have you experimenting in the community. I think this sort of stuff is exactly why Android is excellent. Apple hate that people Jailbreak their phones but Google openly encourage this development!
Thanks Jimmy
I flashed GV again (because i'm getting a bit carried away now ;D) and tried to install new market, adfree and a 3d desire bootlogo. I've got debugging and unknown apps enabled but it says there is a problem downloading?
Any idea why?
hmmmm.... not seen that one. Have you tried wifi and 3G ? whats the exact message ?
Did you wipe between flashes ? you dont normally need to do this when flashing updates (eg gingervillain 2.0 to 2.1) but when flashing between different ROMs (eg CM to GV) then you should do a full wipe ....
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Hi there,
Saw the thread and thought i could help you with some information.
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Great summary! I definitely recommend s-off as I found it as easy as root.
I have close to 300mb free on internal and usually over 200mb free ram.
You can also change the HTC quietly brilliant (should be "loudly" if you ask me!) splash screen after s-off, and write to any of your device partitions, including /system and /data while booted, saving some time using advanced for certain tasks.
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spears93 said:
Thanks Jimmy
I flashed GV again (because i'm getting a bit carried away now ;D) and tried to install new market, adfree and a 3d desire bootlogo. I've got debugging and unknown apps enabled but it says there is a problem downloading?
Any idea why?
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Is that just the market message telling you there is a problem downloading?
My best guess is that there is a setting in GV that allows direct install to the SD-ext partition for apps. Do you have an EXT2/3/4 partition on your SD card?
When ROMs talk about A2SD, Data2EXT and Data2SD the EXT partition is required.
have a look at the blog for the Starburst ROM for desire for a great tutorial (can't post an external link in here)
It is for a specific ROM but the process is the same. I would recommend using EXT3 because it is the most compatible with ROMS.
See how you go with that.
Hi I've tried every rom here. Most have issues. Mostly storage space,camera,video ,sound, battery,etc. Mildwild 4.9 in my opinion is by far the best if launcher pro is installed. I hate it when you install a rom with a storage script only to be informed storage space is low. This happens on nearly all gb roms. I've tried MW 8, 9.5 , jelly Ginger and my music player crashed after 10 minutes. I tried various players and the same. MW 4.9 has know issues for me and is awesome.
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Ok.. Good for you. And the point of this thread is..
To let people know how good older roms are and how happy I am with the rom I'm using. Also most threads are people asking or complaining bout what they want. Go buy a new phone if they aint happy.
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dodge67 said:
Hi I've tried every rom here. Most have issues. Mostly storage space,camera,video ,sound, battery,etc. Mildwild 4.9 in my opinion is by far the best if launcher pro is installed. I hate it when you install a rom with a storage script only to be informed storage space is low. This happens on nearly all gb roms.
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regarding storage space, just sounds like you haven't set these roms up properly. most roms, GB in particular, definitely do not have these issues. did you partition your sd card correctly (4ext recovery or gparted) and have the correct hboot for the rom? this makes a huge difference, and if done properly will always allow for a reasonable number of apps to be installed regardless of rom and script.
people's definition of 'stable' varies here, but we all find our own personal favourites. however, app storage should not be a problem on nearly all custom roms. it's one of if not the primary reason why we use them!
buy a new phone isnt that simple if there is no good phone on the market. i hate that every phone comes with special "cool" software on it, like HTC sense or samsungs bull****. couldnt it be just stock android?
and the new lg nexus is fine, but i cant plug the battery ...
Klueze said:
buy a new phone isnt that simple if there is no good phone on the market. i hate that every phone comes with special "cool" software on it, like HTC sense or samsungs bull****. couldnt it be just stock android?
and the new lg nexus is fine, but i cant plug the battery ...
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Well, besides not being able to have a spare battery in your pocket with the Nexus 4, there is no major disadvantage with an unremovable battery. It can be changed easily by undoing some screws.
My Experiences with MildWild Oxygen 4.7, 4.8, 4.9
What are your experiences with 4.7, 4.8 or 4.9?
I have flashed MildWild Oxygen ROM 4.7 to my HTC Desire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1353861
It runs very smooth and is fine so far. Fast, long battery life. Perfect!:good:
BUT unfortunately: WLAN does not connect to ANY WLAN connection anymore.
The mobile finds access points, but when try to connect, it will always try to get an IP address, but it does not get one.
I happens with any kind of encryption (even with set to "none"). The MAC addresses have been given to all the routers I have tried.
MW ROM 4.8 did not work at all for me when flashing. It just wont boot even do a full wipe.
MW ROM 4.9 I have not tested yet. Can you recommend? Will it work with my European version?
Any help for me with the WLAN problem?
Thanks.
4.9 works perfect for me. I changed to launcher pro and its smooth as butter. Wifi works fine.
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dodge67 said:
4.9 works perfect for me. I changed to launcher pro and its smooth as butter. Wifi works fine.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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Interesting to hear that MW 4.9 is running smooth as honey! Ever tried MW 4.8?
Since I have this ugly WLAN issue w/ MW 4.7, I would be tempted to try MW 4.9.
However, honestly, I would not like to spend time to re-install ALL apps and configure my mobile over once again.
What would be a more elegant way?
Would you recommend to do a nandroid backup, flash MW 4.9, do a full wipe. How can I restore my settings and apps?
Titanium Backup? I have read that this tool is great, but also heard that only the PRO version will do the job automatically. Is that right?
Thanks.
paabel said:
Interesting to hear that MW 4.9 is running smooth as honey! Ever tried MW 4.8?
Since I have this ugly WLAN issue w/ MW 4.7, I would be tempted to try MW 4.9.
However, honestly, I would not like to spend time to re-install ALL apps and configure my mobile over once again.
What would be a more elegant way?
Would you recommend to do a nandroid backup, flash MW 4.9, do a full wipe. How can I restore my settings and apps?
Titanium Backup? I have read that this tool is great, but also heard that only the PRO version will do the job automatically. Is that right?
Thanks.
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i doubt the wifi issue is rom related, more likely radio.
try flashing the latest one from here, extract the radio.img and flash it through fastboot (search for guides). this may fix your wifi issues.
with regards to updating to 4.9, you can nandroid backup and flash straight over the top without wiping anything, you won't lose any data and you won't need to restore anything.
if that doesn't work, then you will have to full wipe. titanium backup is a good way to bakcup apps and data, though you are correct that only the pro version allows automatic batch restore (the app is still worth paying for imo, other features too). other apps might allow batch backup and restore so search around.
I use go backup pro it works well
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Can anyone confirm if this ROM supports Wifi-direct?
Thanks in advance!
eddiehk6 said:
i doubt the wifi issue is rom related, more likely radio.
try flashing the latest one from here, extract the radio.img and flash it through fastboot (search for guides). this may fix your wifi issues.
with regards to updating to 4.9, you can nandroid backup and flash straight over the top without wiping anything, you won't lose any data and you won't need to restore anything.
if that doesn't work, then you will have to full wipe. titanium backup is a good way to bakcup apps and data, though you are correct that only the pro version allows automatic batch restore (the app is still worth paying for imo, other features too). other apps might allow batch backup and restore so search around.
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Thanks for pointing out the radios. I have already installed the latest radio. So this should not be issue, right?
Well, maybe I am going to give MW 4.9 a try. good to hear that I should not loose data.
Full wipe is necessary, because I do a downgrade right? Why is a full wipe necessary here?
Thanks.
hey
i flashed this ROM mildwwild 4.9 j.g but it looks awesome Rom except the Arabic:crying::crying: Language issue
is there any solution plz?????????????
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I am not sure what the solution is to the Arabic language issue in the ROM, might ask in the ROM thread, but I am sure of the solution to this thread.
Thread closed,
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