Related
CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI
I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum. This is a good way to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Samsung Epic 4G. This includes, but is not limited to, people that are providing the following:
- Roms & Kitchens
- Programs & Apps
- Fixes & Tweaks
- Skins & Themes
- Tips & Tricks
I would like to request the help from other members to keep the thread in order and in check. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question a billion times...
Please refer to the Wiki first before asking any questions though! It can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI
Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
jg187211 said:
Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
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Unfortunately, we don't have anyone in the community who has inside access to that information. Some of our members are affiliated with Sprint, and so have slightly more reliable rumors, but even their sources have thus far been wrong if they quoted a specific date...
So I hope you understand that I'm not being a jerk when I say, we won't know until it actually happens (and this will probably always be the case)
That being said, this most recent leak (DK28) seems stable so far IMO, so it could potentially become our official update
ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
EDIT: Angry rant removed, thanks to the mods for a quick response (and to the member who's post was removed: no hard feelings, I hope you understand)
Just remember to read before posting, to make sure your post will be relevant and not redundant
jayzn210 said:
ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
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Whenever flashing a ROM using either recovery, it's always a good idea to wipe the phone (as in factory reset - I'm not referring to wiping the cache or the dalvik cache, although both steps are also usually recommended)
If you used the odin method described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213
then you might have flashed the wrong tar - DK05 and DK17 both had the camera problem, make sure you have the DK28 file.
If you have the right tar, then you could have an incomplete download... I doubt that though, when that happened to me, my phone wouldn't boot at all. But you might want to redownload the tar just to be sure (double check the filesize after it finishes and before you flash, if it seems too small then it messed up again)
That's the best general advice I can offer, but if you'd like to provide more details about the method you used (especially a link to the guide you used, if it isn't the one I provided), someone here might be able to identify where you're going wrong
i followed the instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213. i didnt use odin, i just used the .zip method. it took me a lot of tries cause i kept getting errors. the second mirror link worked for me, but like i said, my camera, gps, gallery and some other apps dont work.
oh and everytime i try to flash again, i get the error.
It sounds like you're either starting from the wrong rom or not wiping the phone before flashing the zip. All of the zip updates I have seen require you to start from DI18 stock (root an clockwork seem to be okay in my experience, all other mods must be removed) - if you have installed any custom roms, your best bet is to follow the odin method using the stock DI18 tar - so you may as well just skip the zip methodand odin to the stock DK28 tar
And you absolutely must wipe the phone (again, factory reset - I suspect many people are just wiping the cache and/or the dalvik cache).
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Odin flashing
I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
KaiXXV said:
I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
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Are you doing the strictly odin method (full froyo in a tar file)? Or an update.zip?
The odin method *should* include the modem and everything (and you use the updated pit in the same process) - you'll have to read the particular thread that you got the download link from, but I haven't noticed any odin tar files that required the modem separately
For the update.zip method, I don't know if it matters whether you flash the modem before or after applying the zip through recovery - I don't think either one overwrites the other, but that's a part of the process I can only guess about. But regardless of when you odin flash the modem, that's when you'll use the new pit file (the same as the odin-only method above).
As far as I know, the primary difference is that the update.zip doesn't inherently overwrite user data (but you'll probably have broken programs that FC all the time, which means a wipe is necessary, making this somewhat null). I prefer the odin method because it is a fresh flash of the entire system (I usually let it repartition as well - no one else has posted about that feature so I have no idea if it's a fluke that it hasn't given me problems)
Hope that helps
which is the best
so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
youngpro83 said:
How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
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How I understand it, especially with Froyo, you shouldn't have to kill programs in the background, if said 'background' process or service is working normal or efficiently. I still kill the DRM process when I reboot my phone, and not sure if it's still causing drain issues.
Also (someone else confirm this), I believe that constantly 'killing' certain background processes actually uses MORE battery, since it has to constantly restart itself. I've had a much more stable device *not* using auto killers, and just sniping one here and there that I know to cause drain.
Some reading material on GC, tho, in regards to memory management
Ignore me!
devo52 said:
so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
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A lot of it is personal preference - this early in the game, the primary differences between the roms are going to be mostly cosmetic. So for now, the best advice I can offer is to try each of them and decide which theme you like. Regardless of how you upgraded, you had to use odin, so you have succeeded at the most difficult step of the process - and odin can bring your phone back to life if something goes wrong, so it's an invaluable skill to have.
In the meantime, keep watching the threads (quietly, unless you have a question that hasn't been asked already - we're working on cleaning up the forum to make it easier for everyone to find answers... but I digress...)
It's too early to be sure of any of the fixes out there - we have at least three separate fixes for the GPS issues; some people find success with one, others with another, and a lucky few don't need the fixes at all... so in summary, we can't say which is better or worse just yet, stay tuned and decide whether you want to experiment on the bleeding edge, or wait for these things to be stable and thoroughly tested.
And if you have any doubts, just stick with the stock DK28 for now
tl;dr, questions in BOLD.
Okay, after spending the entire night scouring the internet/this forum and starting from absolutely zero-knowledge about the Android OS, I managed to update my Epic to 2.2, and root the phone. Now, I'm kinda stuck as far as customization goes. I see all these cool skins and battery life mods and stuff, but they don't exactly offer any steps as to how to install them. Since I don't exactly know what file-types do what, I'm kinda shooting blindly at trying to update/install something "custom" onto the phone. So, my question(s) is/are:
What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
I know the root basically "unlocks" your phone, but that's all I know. The process of customizing the phone still remains a mystery. (that's the problem with following step-by-step instructions, rather than actually knowing what you're doing.)
I also don't understand the purpose of flashing a phone. Flashing, in my experience is to update something, like say a BIOS. But that sets the system back to square 1 as far as all settings go, in this particular example.
If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?
Sorry if these are questions easily answered by searching, but I just spent my entire sleep-cycle trying to find the answers to these questions, and managed to only get so far. I look forward to the answers On another note, I am now EXTREEEEMELY pleased with my phone. Before this evening, I was just the regular, old run-of-the-mill enduser. I liked the cool built-in customizations and all the apps and what not, but never dreamed of being able to customize my phone to THIS EXTENT. So, now it's something I'm very interested in doing..it makes my phone truly mine.
zdavidi said:
What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
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Did you see the link to the Wiki in the original post of this thread? That's where I started when I first got here, it helped me understand the basics.
zdavidi said:
If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?.
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It depends on what you flashed with Odin. If you only flash a modem file, then your customizations and apps are untouched. If you flash an entire ROM in "tarball" form then not only does it re-write the modem but it also overwrites all user data. Think of the latter as resetting the phone to stock and works even if you cannot boot up.
When can we expect a custom Kernel with netfilters for wifi tethering?
n00b question.
If an SDK version is released (say, like, Gingerbread today), does that mean chefs could take it and cook up a ROM for ANY phone (say, like, the Epic)? Or do they need something else to do that?
Remove Touchwiz Launcher (consequences?)
Hey-- I'm using Quantum 2.0.0 ROM, and I never use the touchwiz launcher. Does anyone know if it's safe to just remove the apk? (TouchWiz30Launcher.apk) or is there other functionality tied to it?
I use LauncherPro, fyi.
Please forgive my ignorance... I've searched the forums, looked at the wiki...
I use titanium backup and am now running the DK27 froyo build by noobnl. My question... How do I restore my e-mail accounts to the phone everytime without having to re-type them in? I've been flashing a rom every other day on average since I got the phone and it's getting REALLY old.
ROOTING + UNROOTING INFORMATION + COMMON QUESTIONS + PROBLEMS w/ LINKS
DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT OCCURS TO YOUR PHONE. THIS IS A COLLECTION OF INFORMATION I FOUND TO BE USEFUL. I ONLY ORGANIZED IT HERE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND.
Don't forget to thank people who made the ROMs, Root Methods, etc. They put in a lot of work and take a lot of time helping people. All it takes is a click of a button. One for me too! It's a lot of work trying to keep everything updated. =P
This will and always will be a work in progress. If you feel something should be added, clarified, or corrected feel free to PM me. I'm not perfect and I can't read everything so any and all help is appreciated. (Yes of course I will credit you. Just no plagiarism!)
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Preface:
I made this guide to be a collection of information for the latest rooting methods as well as common questions and problems that arise from rooting/flashing/etc. Please read the entire guide if you are new to rooting. Also the common questions and problems are found in posts 2 and 3 of this thread. I hope you find this to be helpful. Happy and safe rooting.
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Rooting Information
What is rooting and why should/shouldn't I do it?
Rooting is a way of gaining access to the root directory of your phone enabling you to change every aspect of your phones software that the manufacturer has locked. This enables you to do many things with your device that the manufacturer did not intend. Here are some reasons why people root and why people don't.
Reasons to root:
Get the latest versions of Android on your phone before anyone else.
Try faster and more optimized versions of your phone's software.
Overclocking and underclocking your phone.
Longer battery life.
Theme your phone a lot more.
FREE Wireless Tethering.
Remove unwanted Sprint software.
Reasons to NOT Root:
Not comfortable with troubleshooting your phone and phone problems.
Do not have the time to spend going through countless forums to find solutions to problems.
Possibility to break your phone permanently causing you to go back to Sprint (IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE) to get another one or buy another if you don't have insurance.
VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY WITH SPRINT. (Can be undone)
Very time consuming and addicting.
Do not know what a "driver" is for a computer.
Have no knowledge of DOS.
So how do I root?
-Don't use any method just because the guide says "ROOT METHOD". Make sure its the latest root method used for your situation. Even this guide will get outdated one day (I'll try my best to keep it up to date).
-Rooting will cause all your information to be lost if you did not properly back them up. You will lose anything saved on the phone, such as contacts (not synced to Google) and applications and settings. Anything on your SD card will still be there such as music and pictures and video.
Basic terminology:
ROM - The phone's software
Flashing - Installing. Pertains to ROMs, kernels, radios, themes, etc.
0) Make sure you have at least 30% battery. You do NOT want to have your phone die when flashing. Your phone will turn into a very pretty and expensive paperweight.
1) Turn on your phone and hit Menu > Settings > About Phone > Software information. Make a note of your Baseband Version, Kernel version, Software Number, and PRI Version. Now press your BACK button and go to Hardware information. Look for your 4 digit Hardware Version. Write this down too. This information is helpful when troubleshooting issues you may have.
2) Power your phone off. Hold VOLUME DOWN and your POWER button till you see the following screen
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is called the Bootloader Screen. Remember it. You will see it very often. There are two pieces of crucial information on this screen that you will be concerned with. On the first line, you will see S-ON. This stands for Security-ON. It means you are not rooted more or less. On the second line you will see "HBOOT #.##.####" This is your HBOOT version number.
3) Now that you have this information, it is time to pick your root method. You only need to root once and only need to pick ONE of the following methods.
Revolutionary: - This will unlock the bootloader for the latest stock GB. Follow all instructions to the letter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
IF YOUR VERSION IS BEFORE 4.22.651.2, UPDATE YOUR PHONE USING OTA THEN ROOT USING REVOLUTIONARY!!!!!!
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THESE RESPECTIVE LINKS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE STILL UPDATED! CHECK THE LAST PAGE OR 3 TO SEE IF IT IS STILL UPDATED. IF NOT SOMEONE WILL GENERALLY SAY IT IS OUTDATED. SUPPORT FOR THE ROOT METHODS SHOULD BE DONE ON THEIR RESPECTIVE PAGES OR IN THE Q+A PAGE. ALSO MOST ISSUES YOU WILL RUN INTO, SOMEONE ELSE PROBABLY ALREADY HAS SO PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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How do I know if I am rooted?
Go into Bootloader. If you see S-OFF at the top, you are fully rooted.
I am rooted now. What can I do?
FIRST MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP! ALWAYS DO THIS BEFORE YOU FLASH SOMETHING. THESE ARE BIG FILES SO TRANSFER THEM TO YOUR COMPUTER TO SAVE SPACE ON YOUR SD!
A nandroid backup basically takes a snapshot of your phone which you can restore. While it will fix most problems, it is not a cure all. It will fix most if not all ROM flashing blunders.
How do I make a Nandroid Backup?
1) Power off your phone.
2) Hold VOLUME DOWN and POWER to till you see the Bootloader screen.
3) Use VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN to navigate to RECOVERY and push the POWER button to select.
4) Once in Recovery, Look for an option that says NANDROID or NANDROID BACKUP.
5) Select that and hit power.
6) Wait till your NANDROID BACKUP is finished and then proceed to flashing anything you want.
7) ALWAYS DO THIS BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING.
8) If you run out of space on your SD card, your backups are saved to your SD card under the Nandroid Folder. Back up this folder to your PC.
OK. I made my Nandroid Backup. What can I do now?
You can now flash custom ROMs, kernels, radios, themes, etc.
If you aren't sure what a ROM/Radio/Recovery is check out ricsim78's post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427
Here is a great guide on kernels. Kernels are what you want to flash if you want to improve battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880 - Kernel information. What each does and what each stands for?
Here is where you can find most of the goodies here on XDA for the Evo:
Head on over to the Android Development forums for Custom ROMs/Kernels/Radios/Recoveries.
If you want themes, clocks, widgets, UI, etc, head on over to the Themes + Apps forum. Make sure you flashed a "Deodex" ROM for theming.
How do I flash a ROM/Kernel/Theme/etc
99% of all ROM's, kernels and radios come flashable (will be a .zip file).
0) MAKE SURE YOU HAVE 30% BATTERY AT LEAST!
1) Plug your phone into your computer and connect it as Disk Drive.
2) Place your ROM/Kernel/Radio/Theme/ETC into your SD card. (If you have the 4 in 1 option skip to step 5)
3) Power your phone off. Hold VOLUME DOWN and POWER at the same time till you load into Bootloader.
4) Select recovery by using the volume buttons to move and hit the power button to load into Recovery.
5) Once in recovery, make a NANDROID BACKUP and wipe your data/cache/dalvik! If you are flashing an update to your ROM and want to keep your apps, don't wipe your data. If you run into errors or FC (Force closes), wipe your data/cache/dalvik and flash again.
6) Flash your file by going to Install/Flash zip from sdcard.
7) Select your file and hit the power button. Press power again to confirm if needed.
8) Wait till the flash is complete and reboot.
How do I return to stock (unroot)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386 Go down to the FAQ. Your answer lies there.
How do I backup my apps?
Use MyBackup. You can use this to backup and restore your apps without the need for rooting. (Thanks teh roxxorz)
Appbrain is good if you are using market only apps. However app data won't be saved.
Titanium Backup is also good if you are rooted.
Credits:
teh roxxorz aka time traveler, xHausx, ricsim78, zikronix, djR3Z, mroneeyedboh for their work on the guides I linked and to all the devs out there cooking up ROMs/Recoveries/Themes/Kernels/ETC to bring everyone rooting joy.
Common Questions
I am getting an Over the Air (OTA) update from Sprint. Should I accept it if I am rooted?
This is what a Sprint OTA update looks like.
IF YOU ARE ROOTED, DO NOT ACCEPT THIS OTA.
This means that your phone's software is not up to date and it is telling you to update. You must download a ROOTED version of the update and manually flash it. Accepting this will cause you to lose root and worst case, brick your phone. SO DON'T DO IT! lol
This is the link to the latest OFFICIAL ROOTED Sprint ROMs. This will flash a ROOTED 100% stock phone. Meaning it will be rooted but it will be just like your how your phone was before you rooted it. You can NOT remove the Sprint bloatware on the phone. You can also flash a custom ROM with the newest update as its base.
Newest Stock ROOTED RUU - 4.22.651.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1110733
3.70.651.1 + Radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251 NEWEST ROOTED OTA. Use the First link for the Radios.
3.30.651.3 + Kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836728
3.30.651.2 + Kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819838
3.29.651.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789913
I rooted using ABC's method. Do I need to root again using XYZ's?
No. Once you are rooted, you are good to go.
I turned my phone into a paperweight/bricked it/"borked" it/its just not working no matter what I do. What can I do?:
If you can still get into your bootloader then you are not bricked! But if you can't get into bootloader and if you have Sprint's Total Equipment Protection Program, you are in luck. They changed their policy on October 23rd. Here are the details of what it covers.
http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-tepsr-changes-next-week-13303/
If the phone is beyond repair, you will have to go through Asurion and pay the $100 deductible. TEP does not cover rooted phones. You have to go through Asurion.
If you don't have TEP, everything except water/fire damage and lost phone replacements cost $35 per incident as long as the phone is not beyond repair. If it is beyond repair, you will have to buy a new phone.
What is PRL?
PRL stands for Preferred Roaming List. Its a list of roaming towers in your area. Its best to keep this updated in crappy coverage areas.
What is PRI?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751935&page=7 <- Debate on what it stands for. (REALLY?!)
In actuality it is called "Product Release Instructions" and is essentially a list of settings for the radio. It's the PRI which uses the PRL to enable data roaming by connecting it to towers/cell sites listed in the PRL and for other things such as to allow calls to interrupt an active data session (ring-through).
How do I update my PRL/PRI?
Go to Menu > Settings > System Updates > Update PRL + Update Profile.
If that doesn't work (and for most, it doesn't), you can always download it from here. Mind you the above steps only work for Sense based ROMs. If you are on AOSP you have to download it from below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
To update your PRL Manually, go to this link (thanks to Noncorp)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10004743#post10004743
Latest Information:
Radio: 2.15.00.04.08
WIMAX: 27925
PRI: 1.90.003
PRL: 60677
I see "deodex" and "odex" ROMs. What are those?
Basically if you want to theme your ROM you want to use deodexed ROMs. Odexed ROM's are made to be streamlined. There is a performance difference. Deodexed ROM's will take longer to boot up because everything or almost everything is unpacked. Odexed ROM's will boot faster and be more responsive.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+deodex
Google is your friend =P
FREE Wireless Tether:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Evo
***Some builds don't work with certain ROM's. Trial and error or searching within your ROM's thread will let you know which build numbers will work for you. Also note if you enable WIFI Encryption, the password is CASE SENSITIVE! Make sure you know that as you are typing the password in due to certain keyboards auto capitalizing. ***
Launchers:
ADW - Landscape on Home Screen, Customize Dock Bar, Customize Icons, Customize App Drawer, Free and Pro Versions.
LauncherPro - Landscape on Home Screen, Customize Dock Bar, Customize Icons, Customize App Drawer, Free and Pro Versions, Widgets (Pro Only)
Widgets
Beautiful Widgets - Sense like clocks and weather. Make sure to download the animation package if you want animated weather.
OneSeven - A text based date widget
Tajm - A text based clock
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Battery - Common Questions and Problems
What is the best ROM + Kernel combination for battery life?
There is no right answer for this. Battery life is affected by so many factors, the only thing you can do is trial and error. Here are most of the factors that can affect battery life:
-Phone Settings (Haptic feedback, screen on duration, auto sync, radios, etc)
-ROMs
-Kernels
-Overclocking + underclocking
-Apps
-Signal strength
-Roaming
-Battery type
-Battery stats
-Calibrating the battery
-PRI
-PRL
-The water you drank the other day
-The **** you took just before
So how do I improve battery life?
#1 Go to the bottom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427
#2 Adjust your brightness settings, turn off anything you aren't using, use Wifi if it is available (noticeable), set sync frequencies longer, and turn off haptic feedback.
#3 Get some Ebay batteries. They work decently for the price but you may not enjoy carrying multiple batteries around and doing the battery shuffle with your phone.
#4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778466
#5 Seriously go out and buy an extended battery. It is well worth it if you don't care about the increase in size. If you are like me and use the car dock you will get a bit ticked off that you have to switch back to the stock battery and stock cover when you get into your car but its worth it.
#6 You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what it's all about!
I bought #3 when I got my Evo at launch. The damn aftermarket batteries lasted longer than my OEM.
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ROM Information and Tips Poll of ROM usage: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951057
Sense ROMs
There are a few flavors of Sense nowadays and you may be confused as to what it all means. If your Evo was fully up to date, it should be on Android 2.2 Froyo using Sense 1.0.
Lately there have been ROM leaks that have pushed it all the way up to Gingerbread 2.3.3/2.3.4 with Sense 3.0. The problem is these are unofficial updates of Sense.
Any leaked ROM will have bugs that must first be ironed out.
Sense 1.0 - Will have everything working. Most of these ROMs optimize performance and are themed with certain mods and tweaks.
Sense 2.0 - Will almost certainly not have 4G working along with other bugs because Sense 2.0 are ported over from other devices who don't use WIMAX. If you need 4G, don't bother flashing a Sense 2.0 based ROM.
Sense 3.0 - Currently there are two leaks that feature Sense 3.0, Kingdom (Evo 3D) and the Sensation leak. The Kingdom leak is the best bet as of now because it has both Android 2.3.3 and Sense 3.0 WITH WORKING 4G! The problem is that it was made for a 3D device so there are bugs that need to be ironed out.
Here are some general guidelines to follow:
If you want stability, stick with a Sense 1.0 ROMs.
If you want to experiment and can do without 4G or don't have 4G in your area, try a Sense 2.0 ROM.
Sense 3.0 is in no way ready for daily use without major bugs.
When picking your Sense ROM from the Android Developer section, make sure you read the titles and the Original Post (OP) by the author of the thread.
They will tell you what the ROM is based off of.
AOSP ROMs (Vanilla ROMs)
AOSP/Vanilla ROMs do not have Sense and is based off the original Android UI. Sense can limit performance and use certain resources. The following two ROMs should be your starting points for AOSP based ROMs as most of them for the Evo are based off Cyanogen Mod (CM). While these have come a long way for the Evo, some functions aren't working such as 720p video recording.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187 CM7 + 4G + HDMI Mirroring
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 MIUI NO 4G
** These have been found to be stable for daily use. Read through each thread to know what is and is not working. There are many other ROMs out there that are in beta that are not listed here. **
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ADB - Android Debug Bridge
A great guide to ADB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
Common Problems:
Standard Troubleshooting For Many Flashing Problems:
-Try Rebooting. Most problem will be solved this way.
-Was it fine before your Nandroid Backup? If so, restore your backup.
-If you flashed something and are having issues, did you wipe your data/cache/dalvik? If not then do it and reflash.
-If you are still getting problems, the file is most likely corrupt or outdated. Try redownloading and making sure the file is updated for your ROM + Version #
-If the file is updated and NOT corrupt, SEARCH FIRST IN THE FORUMS OR GOOGLE! You will be surprised on the answers you can find in 15 seconds of searching.
-Can't find any solution or workaround? Then make a post in that thread with details of your problems, as well as ROM, Hardware version, Hboot #, error messages, etc.
I am getting a picture of an Evo with a Red ! inside of a triangle HALP!
You mean this?
This means your recovery is not flashed to a custom one such as Amon RA or Clockworks. If you do have one flashed, try hitting VOLUME UP and the POWER button. See if your screen pushes into recovery. If not then you will have to reflash your recovery again.
I am getting a picture of an Evo with a Green arrow with a circle HALP!
You mean this?
This means whatever you just flashed is being updated and you should let it run its course. It will go away after a few minutes and by the time you finish reading this it might be done! If its running for a LONG TIME. Pull your battery and load back into recovery. Wipe your data/cache/dalvik and then reboot again. You might see this screen again but it should run through this time.
I am getting a red ? image what does that mean?
You mean this?
The "WTF" (courtesy of xHausx) icon, it will show that if it gets a bad auto update command or a bad update package. Try to go back into recovery, wipe your data/cache/dalvik and try again.
I am getting a red triangle with an !
You mean this?
The Last one I'm guessing you'll see if there is an error within the recovery itself, I've never seen it be used before. - xHausx
I am getting random Force Closes (FCs) after flashing ****.
Did you wipe your data/cache/dalvik? If not do a Nandroid Restore to the backup you should have done before flashing and then wipe data/cache/dalvik and then reflash. See if you still get a FC. If you do, there might be a problem with whatever it is you flashed with the ROM you are using. Check on the thread you downloaded it from for support.
I am stuck in a boot loop.
If you flashed a new ROM and you are stuck in a bootloop, you probably didn't erase your data/cache/dalvik. Try that and reflash your ROM. This will fix most boot loop issues. If it was from something else, make a post in your respective threads or in Q+A.
I am stuck in a NAND Backup! Lots of "..............."
Pull your battery and restart the backup. You might also want to erase the NAND backup that failed by going to your respective NANDROID backup folder on your SD card.
My 4G isn't connecting and I'm in a 4G city.
Enable your 4G radio. Go to Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks and look under 4G. If you see Scanning... > Connecting to Sprint > Authorizing > Scanning and it keeps repeating, you might have lost your RSA keys. Go back to your home screen, hit Menu > Settings > About phone > Hardware Information > 4G MAC Address. Does it say 00:16:08:00:24:05? If not you are fine and probably don't have a strong enough signal. 4G doesn't penetrate as well as 3G because there isn't that much signal saturation. Also because 4G runs on a higher frequency than 3G and therefore doesn't penetrate as well. (kudos to for reminding me nuformzdesign) If so, you lost your MAC address. Now you need to check if you have your RSA keys.
Go to the Market and download RSA Key Checker by joeykrim. Use this to see if you still have your RSA keys.
If you still have your RSA keys and only need to fix your MAC address IF it is 00:16:08:00:24:05. Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715525
If you lost your RSA keys, there is a restore method but I am not sure if it works. At this point it is your only choice beside returning it to Sprint.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936945&highlight=RSA
OK. That didn't work. What do I need to do before I return this to Sprint?
Unroot your phone using the method above. Return it to Sprint, and tell them you can't connect to 4G and continue playing dumb. Say that you turned it off and turned it back on and no 4G. Also make sure you remove your SD card. If their tech is smart, he will look for signs of root like busybox or SU. So just keep it simple and take your SD card out and give them your phone.
I still have my RSA keys and my MAC address but I still can't connect to 4G.
Go to Menu > Settings > Update Phone > Update Profile. Also do Update PRL. Reboot your phone and try to connect again. If you can't go to Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks. Look under 4G and see if it just gets stuck on Scanning and does NOTHING else. If it does, are you underclocking/undervolting? If so you might have been too aggressive. Revert back to a stock kernel. Check to see if you get your 4G back.
My 4G takes forever to connect. What can I do?
Take a look through this. What this does is basically make your phone check every 15 seconds instead of 300 seconds. Which is why your 4G takes forever to connect when you know you have a strong signal. Be warned however as this will cause your phone to die faster when 4G is on. Or you can update to 3.70.651.1. It has a "widget" that allows you to manually reconnect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726877
My USB port/SD Card is not found or not working. What can I do?
Go through this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
Also this happened to me once because I unplugged in disk drive mode and I couldn't access anything on my SD card. I reconnected it to my PC in disk drive mode and then ejected the drive from Windows. This restored functionality.
I am a MAC user and I downloaded ____'s ROM and it doesn't work.
Macs will recompress the file. Use Firefox to download and make sure it doesn't recompress the file. It should work then. Either that or use a Windows based PC.
I tried to NANDROID BACKUP and I got an error message saying "Run 'nandroid-moble.sh' via adb!"
Your SD card is full. Mount your phone in recovery using the USB-MS option (Amon-RA) and clear off your SD card. Your Nandroid Backup folder is called nandroid (Amon-RA). Move that to your PC.
I see these weird multi-colored lines that look like static. Is something wrong?
This is a very common issue that happens to a lot of people. You don't need to worry. Nothing is wrong. Sometimes it will persist after you flash a ROM. Restarting your phone will fix the issue. It will always come up when flashing a ROM or restarting. However it won't impede you from using your phone. So the bottom line, don't worry about it.
Very Helpful SHould Be Stickied!
Thanks. Did this in one sitting. Going to add more as time goes on with what I see a lot of being asked here.
stickied stay on topic. @OP ball is in your court. good job
Thank you for this! There have been a few tweaks to some of the root and unroot methods/guides...nice to have them in one place
I have a question. I rooted my phone using these 2 web pages http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496, http://www.thedroiddemos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7, which are pretty much the same while i watched the videos djrez has on how to root the evo. I just noticed those 2 threads were posted a while back. Does that mean i should root my evo again using your method?
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I have a question. I rooted my phone using these 2 web pages http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496, http://www.thedroiddemos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7, which are pretty much the same while i watched the videos djrez has on how to root the evo. I just noticed those 2 threads were posted a while back. Does that mean i should root my evo again using your method?
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If you are rooted already, you do not need to update your Root method. You only need to update your ROM.
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If you are rooted already, you do not need to update your Root method. You only need to update your ROM.
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Thank you. Are you talking about the recovery Rom? Sorry I'm new to this stuff
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Thank you. Are you talking about the recovery Rom? Sorry I'm new to this stuff
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No. Recovery is different from a ROM. A ROM would be the equivalent to the flavor of OS you are using. Whether it be CM6, Ava v10, Myn's ROM. Look under the Android Development section and go through some of the posts labeled as [ROM]. They have screen shots of the ROM's appearance and some have videos of their use and features.
Some just change the appearance, others increase performance, include apps such as Swype and Hulu, and some change it back to vanilla/ASOP which is a non-Sense ROM that goes back to the traditional Android OS.
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No. Recovery is different from a ROM. A ROM would be the equivalent to the flavor of OS you are using. Whether it be CM6, Ava v10, Myn's ROM. Look under the Android Development section and go through some of the posts labeled as [ROM]. They have screen shots of the ROM's appearance and some have videos of their use and features.
Some just change the appearance, others increase performance, include apps such as Swype and Hulu, and some change it back to vanilla/ASOP which is a non-Sense ROM that goes back to the traditional Android OS.
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Oh Haha I feel dumb now. Thanks a lot this clears my confusion. Is there any roms you would recommend. I'm using standard android OS, at least I think so :S
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Oh Haha I feel dumb now. Thanks a lot this clears my confusion. Is there any roms you would recommend. I'm using standard android OS, at least I think so :S
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What your phone originally came with is called Sense. If it looks anything like it, its a Sense ROM. Original OS looks like the Nexus. As for recommended apps, its hard to say. Everyone has their own preferences so many people flash a ton of different ROM's to find one they like. I personally like Sense so I flash a deodex stock rooted ROM and then proceed to flash themes and remove bloatware with custom kernels.
Just remember to make a Nandroid backup. And then try different ROM's out. Be careful when flashing WIMAX radios. You might lose 4G permanently.
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What your phone originally came with is called Sense. If it looks anything like it, its a Sense ROM. Original OS looks like the Nexus. As for recommended apps, its hard to say. Everyone has their own preferences so many people flash a ton of different ROM's to find one they like. I personally like Sense so I flash a deodex stock rooted ROM and then proceed to flash themes and remove bloatware with custom kernels.
Just remember to make a Nandroid backup. And then try different ROM's out. Be careful when flashing WIMAX radios. You might lose 4G permanently.
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Oh okay yea then I'm using sense Rom not the originally Android OS. To do a nandroid back up isn't that when you hold volume down and power button? I have no idea what kernel is. I'm kinda scared trying new roms cuz I've never tried it before, I definitely don't want to lose 4G that would suck
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Good job thanks for this will be really helpful for me and everyone
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Oh okay yea then I'm using sense Rom not the originally Android OS. To do a nandroid back up isn't that when you hold volume down and power button? I have no idea what kernel is. I'm kinda scared trying new roms cuz I've never tried it before, I definitely don't want to lose 4G that would suck
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Yes and no. You hold VOLUME DOWN and POWER to get to bootloader. From there you go to Recovery. Then in Recovery, you will see an option for Nandroid/Nandroid Backup. You make it there.
Losing 4G is thought to be caused by flashing WIMAX radio updates. Kernels should be fine. I lost 4G connectivity because I underclocked too much. ROM's like CM6 just don't support 4G, not that you will lose 4G. AVA's ROM is fine, same with a few others. If you NANDROID back up you should be fine against 99% of the problems out there.
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Yes and no. You hold VOLUME DOWN and POWER to get to bootloader. From there you go to Recovery. Then in Recovery, you will see an option for Nandroid/Nandroid Backup. You make it there.
Losing 4G is thought to be caused by flashing WIMAX radio updates. Kernels should be fine. I lost 4G connectivity because I underclocked too much. ROM's like CM6 just don't support 4G, not that you will lose 4G. AVA's ROM is fine, same with a few others. If you NANDROID back up you should be fine against 99% of the problems out there.
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Thanks man, a Nandroid backup should be easy then. I was thinking it was when you save all the files in your SD card to your computer by selecting all and saving on desktop or something but nvm I understand now.
I guess I just have to be really careful when I flash a Rom.
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Thanks man, a Nandroid backup should be easy then. I was thinking it was when you save all the files in your SD card to your computer by selecting all and saving on desktop or something but nvm I understand now.
I guess I just have to be really careful when I flash a Rom.
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Glad I could help. Like you said. Be careful when flashing and follow all instructions from the devs. You should be fine. I never bricked a phone but I did end up losing my RSA keys for 4G so I had to get a replacement.
Hi everyone. First of all I'm using hardware version 0003. My Baseband is 2.15.00.09.01. Software number 3.30.651.3. Is it possible for me to root this Evo? Please help!!!
Great job on the guide sekigah84! I have update the Universal root so it now works with the 2.02 hboot
Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
(irc help would be awesome still since I now have some help with main issue- I enter all the correct info into the app but it shows nothin. I've tried several to no avail. I appreciate the help) second I've ran into more pretentious ppl in these forums for Android then others no offense to the good guys but just my exp. It was brash to say that in this post tho. Thank you guys again for the ones willing.
That's because even the biggest idiot can work an iphone.
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Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
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Jataadroid said:
Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
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Patience dude. I didn't catch it, but what exact kernel are you using, net has a lot of em, the one in the OP of myn's thread you mean? What recovery(and version of that recovery, some versions of clockwork floating around that have some bugs i think) did you use to flash the rom? what radio version and pri version do you currently have installed? Which ROM were you coming from, and did you do a full wipe(data, cache, davlik cache) before flashing it? I have never experienced anything like you are describing whilst using Myn's, his ROMs have been solid. Give a little more info and surely we can help you get running smoothly again.
thanks for the reply heres the details...myn's rls5, net toast havs more, ra_superson
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
Looks like we're running nearly the same setup, minus my ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery. I have attempted the stock kernel furnished in the Rom zip but since it didn't offer overclock I switched to net havs more smartass. I do the dalvik and cache wipe each time.
Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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Not trying to be a smart ass but do you realize that by insulting us will not get you any help? Rhetorical question
From reading what you jus stated the obvious problem is you did not do a FULL WIPE as you should do when flashing between roms.
Also next time please be patient as those like myself who browse through this section to help impatient ppl like your self, do actually have a life outside of xda. Its been a big snow storm in the southeast so most like myself included are outside enjoying the snow!
DO A FULL WIPE THEN REPORT BACK!
Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
gotta do a full wipe if you are switching between roms
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also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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Ok. Well crap.... thanks guys since that is apparently my only option.
OneStepAhead said:
also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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The kernel was included in the op and I've seen tags with same setup as mine.
Jataadroid said:
Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
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Sorry you feel that way but since i have had the hero, on every thread about a rom says wipe all! This must be a joke for someone as rude as yourself to come on here and disrespect those who are trying to help.
Next time you decide to flash a rom remember to do a full wipe because inside the data partition is files for the particular rom, if you dont wipe, the new files will just over lay but not delete the old one. This will cause conflicting issues within the files as the phone tries to do both at the same time.
Screen tearing and the "jigglies" as I like to call it have always come from kernels - in my experience. And just because someone might have the same set up as you, the way it affects your phone ccan be quite different as you are running different apps, different settings, etc.
First thing I would do if I were you is to freeze any kernel govenor you are using - no setcpu, no secreen off profile, no set on boot, no os monitor govenor, no nothing like that. You don't want want any of that going on when you flash a new rom or kernel.
I know you don't want to do a full data wipe so let's see if we cna get you going without that. I used to HATE doing data wipes, I don't mind so much now because I've learned that trobule shooting can frequently take longer than just doing a data wipe.
I would say #1 make sure you are using AMON RA. Power button-reboot-recovery. Wipe cache at least twice, wipe dalvik at least twice. Now JUST flash the rom (you've already said your radios are updated so you wont have a problem with this). Let the phone boot up and give it time to settle in. You wont have any screan tearing. Now you're running a completely stock Myn's rls5 rom. Check some stuff out, make sure your basic settings are good, make sure your 4g is not scanning, etc.
Make a nandroid of this and keep it.
Now start making changes if you'd like. Flash a different font, flash a different kernel, etc. But leave all the governors OFF until you have a kernel that you KNOW will run ok on your phone. For example - I can run 2 of ziggy's kernels but the others don't work for me. I can run a few of net's kernels, but many don't work for me.
So my basic suggestion is to make sure you get a stable, stock Myn's rls5 on your phone before you mod it. If you can't get that, then yes - you might want to wipe data. Doing a batch backup in Titanium is really easy and it makes restoring very easy as well. It's our own customizing that is time consuming because we are all probably very picky (and proud!) of our beautiful phones.
Thanks for the helpful info from ALL that posted. I understand the risk of the non entire wipe, nandroid is safe of original stock Rom but not of new one. After tinkering with setcpu I've gotten more consistent stability. I know I will reflash with an entire data wipe here soon to see results. Running ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery.
I've made list of check point when I test some new Roms and kernels. I have some more question on backing up user info from backed up apps but Im sure ill find it on here.
Now that my system is stable for the time being, some one mind help me setup irc? And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it. Ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery i like also.
Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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You're welcome. I am late at getting back to this post, but yea. Definitely. As everyone else has suggested, you have to do a full wipe when changing ROMS. Only time you could get away with just wiping davlik cache and cache is when upgrading the same rom ( like from rls 3 to rls 4, and rls to rls 5), but even then, it doesn't always work. Full wipe is always recommended. I would also recommend downloading your apps one at a time from the market, and adding your mods one at a time, make sure everything is stable after each flash. Good luck.
QUOTE And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it QUOTE
If your phone is the newer hardware (late 003 or 004), you can only use the stock kernel, or a kernel based off stock for the camera to work. That would be htc #15. I believe Net's 4.3 kernels are based off of that. I am also pretty sure that Net explains that in his kernel thread in the development section.
Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
r.storm85 said:
Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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This isn't true, the problem is ALWAYS the kernel. I'm running myn rls5 and mikfroyo 4.3 with an SBC #15 v7 kernel (i'll edit post and add the link) and I have had zero issues except I can't download MMS messages on 4g on mikfroyo.
Jataadroid said:
Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
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Okay, this process will 100% work. It's the one I've been using since my lowly mytouch slide oh so many months ago.
*before you do this, make sure you have backups of your nandroid and your rsa keys. I'll edit post and give you links on how to back up your rsa keys*
RSA Key back-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900 ...since you're rooted you can go straight to the part where it says "if you're rooted do this.."
1. First you need to fix the sd card. Create a folder on your computer desktop and call it "my sd card". Plug your phone into the computer and select "disk drive". Next you're going to copy EVERYTHING from the sd card and place it in the folder on the desktop (and dude I mean everything! AS IS, DON'T CHANGE ANY NAMES). Then, you're going to unhook your phone, go to settings>sd and phone storage. Then you're going to format your sd card. Yes, do it, but make sure you have EVERYTHING backed up first. After that's done, plug your phone back in, select disk drive and copy everything from your "my sd card" folder on your computer and put it back onto your sd card.
*phew*
Okay now that the sd problem is fixed, here's how you fix the rest. You see, when you upgrade your PRI to 1.90 and your radio, etc etc you gotta update the kernel to a version that's 1.90 supported. I'll edit post and post a link to where you can find one OR you can just use the kernel that's included with myn's rom because it WILL WORK. *edit* the kernel I'm using has been taken down because of the witch hunt against SBC kernels. So for now, just stick with stock. It works just fine.
Anyway.
Steps to getting myn working perfectly.
*before starting, re-download myn rls5 in case the screen flickering was caused by a corrupted download*
1. Download Titanium Back-up from the market. Back up all the apps you want to keep (basically, anything you downloaded from the market as you'll get facebook, sense widgets, etc back). You can do this while you re-download the rom.
2. Make a nandroid back-up in case something goes seriously wrong. A rom that flickers your screen is better than a brick.
3. Once that back-up is done, reboot into recovery. Once there, you're going to WIPE EVERYTHING. Full data, cache and dalvik wipe. Yes, do it. There is no other option.
3. Flash myn's rom. Let it go all the way through. Do NOT flash a new kernel until you've found one that's 3.70 compatible and works with PRI 1.90. Myn rls5 is designed to work with the newest updates (which means a #15 kernel, like the one that came stock).
4. Reboot. If the screen is still flickering, then at this point it's a hardware problem. Flash back to stock, unroot and go get a new one. If it works fine, re-download titanium back-up from the market and restore all your apps. From there it's just putting your widgets back on your home screen.
From here, you can search the forums for a kernel that works with the newest updates. If you read them, they'll tell you what they're compatible with. Remember do NOT use an AOSP kernel with a SENSE rom, that's just spells IDIOCY. Until you find a kernel that works, stick with the one that came with the rom because everyone knows that one works.
I hope this helps. As for the IRC chat, not all the experts are on all the time. If no one is online that can help when you get one, try getting a few hours earlier or a few hours later.
Please be patient with me, I'm new to the entire smartphone era.
I've spent the last week or so scouring these forums deciding what I can and cannot do with my brand new Epic. What I unfortunately was unable to find were directions put into laymans terms as exactly how to properly flash your phone (I am still even unsure as to the correct terminology for many things). When I read the wiki and the forums I'm lost about a paragraph in.
It would be incredibly appreciated if any of you had tips for a new person to these forums and to this lifestyle itself. I'd love to know how to properly modify my phone without breaking it (and not feel like I'm reading a medical dictionary). When/if I do mod my phone, I'd like to know how to go about restoring it should I for whatever reason need to take it in to the extremely... helpful.. Sprint store here in my area. I'm pretty quick to learn and as I said, I'd really love if someone willing to be patient with me would explain to me the ins and outs I would need to know to take advantage of my phones capabilities.
Well most roms now use ext4 filesystem instead of RFS (default) so you have to install Clockwork Mod 3 which will auto convert it
CWM3 directions:
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On phone go to applications -> development -> usb debugging (turn on)
plug phone into usb port, run the run.bat from the CWM folder (it might say something like restart server and wait for phone to reconnect i generally just close the window and run the run.bat again then it'll mount as r/w and install)
Then after your phone reboots transfer any ec05 ext4 rom to your sdcard, i suggest This one.
After that turn off your phone completely.
Hold volume down, camera button, power. This will boot into clockworkmod.
CWM will backup all data, format, then restore the data... it'll take a few minutes.
Now if you want to start fresh click wipe data / wipe cache and also go to advanced/wipe dalvic cache. If you want to keep all your apps just proceed to the next step
go to Install from sdcard, browse sdcard for the rom.zip, select it, let it do its magic, after its done go back to the main menu, reboot system, and you're done
EDIT: Cwm controls -> volume up/down to naviage, Power = back, Camera = select. I think you can also use the keyboard arrows and stuff but i find it easier using the buttons
I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!
Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?
OmegaMateria said:
Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?
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If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first
hi I also am still new to this even though i flashed my phone at least a 100 times and got my buddys epic rooted i followed this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067. they did a great job with links to get cwm2.5 and also the adb files. so when you root your phone the computer will find your phone. One thing that did keep me held up for a while was when you have your phone in debug mode. connect the phone to the usb. but do not press connect on your phone. hope this helps some. I spent about 3 long days reading and gathering everything before trying and like a day and a half trying.
shook187 said:
If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first
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You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?
shook187 said:
I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!
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No such thing will occur. He might get it into a position of where he can only use odin but certainly not a brick. I have heard of only 1 person bricking their phone in 6 mths and that was a dev cuz he was messing with the bootloader. Jump in at your own pace.
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OmegaMateria said:
You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?
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I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.
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I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.
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Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?
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Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?
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The main thing which you already mention is the free wireless tether.
CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.
I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though.
The small risk was worth getting the phone that I wanted originally - instant responsivness, access to every customization and dev. level control of the hardware (free tethering!) - everything runs better - games,browsers,vids (look better and sound better), music sounds better, etc. Etc. There are some seriously talented devs. here. If you decide to take the plunge, check out k0's ACS Frozen ROM and mysteryEmotionz (sp?) Theme(s). When you go from stock to those, you can't help but wonder WTF sprint and samsung are thinking. Yeah, its that good.
Good luck!
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blu9987 said:
CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.
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I went into the run.bat file in the one click root and removed the 2 lines that give the command to delete the free hd games demo and asphalt 5 demo. Ran the one click root, and I still have those 2 installed on my phone. Beats having to reinstall them again in the future and preventing an update because of the missing apps.
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I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though
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Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.
Go on YouTube and search "randyshear". He has step by step videos for pretty much everything. Makes it easy
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Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.
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I was the same way and to some degree still am. What I did was read and read. I read the WIKI several times realizing that a lot of it was written for someone more experienced than I. I also read how to restore a bricked device and return to stock a few times. I installed everything to return to stock on my PC so if I had a failure I already had my path back to working stock. I went to CM 2 just to get some experience. Then I went for it to CM 3 and Syndicate 1.0 and have been incredibly happy that I did.
Also know that terms like brick are used a lot but is then followed up with my phone will do this or that. In the definitions a brick is literally as good as a brick for a phone. The term is used way too much incorrectly so don't let that scare you. You will see when reading that there are only a few things to do if there is a problem. Frequently you will read to re download the files or use a different cable or USB port. If you keep reading you will become more comfortable with your ability to find the answers if there is a problem because there are people on here that seem to take great joy in helping people like you and I out and they have the experience and knowledge to help.
Trust me ... keep reading and searching and you will start to put the pieces together. Don't be discouraged. If you are really interested in this stuff, you WILL get there.
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Definitely agree with JohnCorleone, Randyshear has a ton of very good youtube vids. Helpful with rooting also with picking a ROM. Just to add my two-cents. The "epic cookbook" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967014...Helped me over and over again. alot of info, without alot of scavenging throughout threads. Good luck
There is no need to flash a rom right off the bat. Rooting with one click will give you a good jumping point. I would one click root to cw3 let it convert to ext4 then do a backup. Use titanium backup to remove all the junk bloatware.
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Hello,
I got my Desire HD a few weeks ago, it was locked on Three UK and I rooted and sim unlocked it to use it in Italy where I live.
I was playing with the application manager and noticed that there are a few apps that are installed on the phone (some Three UK apps, Bejeweled and so on) that are not showing at all in the apps list. They are in the installed applications of the application manager, but I can't do anything with them as all the controls for these apps are gray (not selectable). Anyone has any idea about what is happening?
I was also thinking to flash a stock ROM to get rid of all that unusable stuff and speed up the phone a bit (the Three splash screen makes boot crazy long), but I want to be sure I can go back to this ROM, if needed. I have a backup made with ClockworkMod, is it all I need or should I save something else first?
What stock ROM would be better for me to flash?
I am currently with OS build 1.37.771.3 and Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Thanks in advance for the help!
No advice at all?
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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Okay, I think I explained myself the wrong way
I didn't want somebody to tell me what ROM is better as I know it really depends on personal preferences, that's the reason why there are so many different ones, right? What I meant is: what is the latest stock ROM that allows me to root the phone using Visionary+? Do I have to worry about OTA updates or can I just download and apply them?
For now I just want to have a "clean" phone, custom roms and further playing will come in the future
And, the second part of the question is if a system backup done using ClockworkMod is sufficient to get back to what I have now, if ever needed, or I do need to backup something else first.
Thanks!
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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Would I need to somehow backup Radio too? Or CWM backup saves it as well?