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Android on Rhodium... like on "real" andoid phone?

Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->

nobody can say this because all developers work on this in their free time and its their decission how much time they spend to this.
on the other hand there are many non solved problems and nobody can say if this problems can be fixed in 2 days or never.
so lets wait and see what great things devs can do in future

In theory it should run as smooth on Rhodium too I guess since they use the same kind of core hardwares such as processor and RAM.
The only thing I would guess is the drivers issues with the different hardwares such as keyboard, etc..., but as lhwparis said, the developers do it at their own time.
We just have to wish them good luck and appreciate their effort

breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.

x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Im pretty sure that Rhodium Android benchmarks faster than on other native android devices already using Android Market benchmarking apps.

x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Not completely true. The SD card is removable flash, the internal storage is just non-removable flash. If you get a fast enough SD card, there's no difference.
Also, Android can be flashed to the internal storage of a device with some cunning through the same idea they are using now (bootloading through Haret). Take a look at the Vogue and Kaiser threads.. The devs just have to work on that process, which I'm sure is not as important to them as getting Open GL working 100%, sound, and complete battery management.

I stand corrected. Thanks. Running Android of SD memory can be just as fast.

Exactly. When you buy your next SD card, shell out the extra $10 or so and get a class 6. You won't regret it.

You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)

ikari87 said:
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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What are you comparing your phone to? Don't look at a Droid X or an EVO dude. You have to compare apples to apples - about the closest native Android hardware to our phones is/was the HTC Hero. So that's our benchmark basically.
With that said, there probably is some software improvements, but getting a higher class SD will definitely help as well. I heard boot times are probably the most to benefit from higher class SD - don't expect miracles tho, there's definitely still some things that need optimizing - I think at present the devs aren't exactly sure what those things are
Once the major bugs are squashed certainly the focus will then be more on stability, performance and battery life. We've gotten quite a few battery fixes lately, hopefully performance will be next on the docket

I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)

ikari87 said:
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
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Having owned and used an HTC Hero and Samsung Moment I can tell you that the vanilla version (non-overclocked) of this build is about the same speed as the Hero. The overclocked version is faster than both when running on my class 6 card.

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breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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The issues are drivers, drivers, drivers and null assistance from HTC. With little more than the technical docs of the Qualcomm processor shared by the Rhodium as well as native HTC & other manufacturers Android devices the developers are nothing short of being friggin amazing. It's a lot of hit n miss trial n error and we the users are the beta testers.
My initial goal of being one of many beta testers was to see whether Android is a viable replacement for my WinMo device especially in light of Microsoft's direction with WP7.
HTC is helpful to XDA developers when it helps sell current devices. Unfortunately HTC in their shortsightedness fails to see the benefit of a successful Project Android being the springboard of many to a purchase a new native Android HTC device.
So will we have drivers, drivers, drivers to make the Rhodium as good or better than a similar hardware native Android device is a question no one can answer definitively when or if ever. For the time being, I like other beta testers will avoid phone calls like the plague, but nonetheless will have enough hands on to make an educated decision whether Android is right for them.

I dont know
My setup of Android seems to be working pretty good minus a few small bugs. Main bug I would say is battery issues. All in all mine is damn quick,and definitely faster than the winmo on the device. My winmo is trim and pimped out but still runs like a turd. It's reliable but slow. My ole lady has the Epic Galaxy S, and it is indeed fast and smooth with particularly vivid color (amoled), but I am gaining a new appreciation for my TP2 again wth Android. My screen looks pretty sharp as well. I am bouncing back and forth from winmo to droid often, but I can manage to stay in droid for long periods and not miss a beat. Waking up to my new rooster alarm sound ain't too shabby either.
I am a stickler for response speeds, and winmo out of the box blew just like it does on computers. Linux has never let me down, and now neither will droid. I would like to have a way in droid to check my 10 different email address' and not just gmail, but I'm sure there's a way. Windows' ideas are ok but their performance/quality has always just been farts upwind.
One thing some people don't think about is the apps and stuff they choose to run and the things they do on their phone, but at least android attempts to warn you of the access the app is being granted on your device before you install. Phones today have cameras, mics, speakers, communications, GPS, and a G-sensor. The only thing they can't do is taste and smell (coming soon). All in all though, they are capable of knowing where you are, where you've been, what you say, and what you look like as well as possibly being remotely controlled. Enjoy, but beware

The only thing holding us back is the slow GPU and the resistive screen.

[Q] Would you buy this phone again?

OK, So I'm shopping for a new phone,
I've been enjoying getting my feet wet with a comparatively low end model & am becoming somewhat addicted to constantly tinkering, have managed to compile my own kernel and now feel the need for an upgrade.
This (Desire Z) is currently at the top of my list as it seems to be well supported by the dev community & I really want a qwerty keypad!
So, as users of this phone & knowing what you know now...
Would you buy this phone again?

Well, I love my Z and i think it works fast and the keyboard is amazing. But the problem these days is: Dual core phones are coming out a lot right now, and even the fast processor of the G2 can't compare to that. So, as much as i love my Desire Z, I would wait a while for a Dual Core HTC (like the Pyramid).
But ofcourse: If you REALLY want a phone right now, a Desire Z with an Otterbox Commuter case is my recommendation! (since I personally love the Otterbox case, hehe.)

hubba88 said:
Well, I love my Z and i think it works fast and the keyboard is amazing. But the problem these days is: Dual core phones are coming out a lot right now, and even the fast processor of the G2 can't compare to that. So, as much as i love my Desire Z, I would wait a while for a Dual Core HTC (like the Pyramid).
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Cool, thanks for the input...
I hear what you're saying, my thinking right now is that in order to learn more about kernel & ROM development, is that I should be getting something that has a good amount of hacking & dev work behind it already.
The newer phones are less charted waters & I'm not experienced enough to be a pioneer
Will be sure to look at the otterbox case

waydownsouth said:
Cool, thanks for the input...
I hear what you're saying, my thinking right now is that in order to learn more about kernel & ROM development, is that I should be getting something that has a good amount of hacking & dev work behind it already.
The newer phones are less charted waters & I'm not experienced enough to be a pioneer
Will be sure to look at the otterbox case
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Yep, that's also true. And indeed, there is alof of development going on for the Desire Z, it's great. And so many awesome roms to choose from as well.

As Hubba88 said, at this point, I'd wait for a dual core like the HTC Pyramid/Sensation. But, I love my G2 and am very happy with the purchase. Great keyboard, capacitive buttons are in the right place, very responsive trackpad. All in all typically great HTC build quality. CyanogenMod support is a huge plus as well for this phone.

If I knew that the z hinge was going to be so ****ty no,I would not buy it again. I'd go for a unibody design instead.
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If the keyboard is important to you, as well as the tinkering aspect, then I reckon this is a good phone.
Not sure there has been much talk of dual core's with keyboards? So a real Desire Z upgrade may be some way beyond the next few HTC phones. Even then when they come out it takes time to build the developer base behind it and get rooting sorted etc. I moved a month and a bit ago and reckon there will be nothing to make me desperately want an upgrade for at least a year.
Look how well the desire has done and still does. The DZ has a better processor and more storage on board etc. The overclockability of the chip seems to be something that will extend its lifespan in terms of performance against the newer phones.
Always worth remembering that there is often quite a difference between phones being rumoured, then announced, and then actually on sale and being hacked. Therefore if a desire Z replacement is not yet in the rumours, it will likely be quite a while before its out there in the real world.
So yeah, I think its a good phone, although not perfect.
As I have insurance with my contract I will be OK with any problems with the Hinge - but none so far.

I voted yes but if I were in the market for a phone now I'd wait till the G2x was available and compare side by side. I suspect I'd get that one because it's newer, faster and has a more future proof AT&T compatible radio.

Thanks all for your input so far,
I've been following the Official thread on which phone should I get for some weeks which does talk about the latest & greatest dual core's an awful lot, but, as I said above the support & dev work that has gone into the DZ already is probably the biggest factor for me, it should give me a good base to work/learn from.
crazyC said:
Look how well the desire has done and still does. The DZ has a better processor and more storage on board etc. The overclockability of the chip seems to be something that will extend its lifespan in terms of performance against the newer phones.
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I saw in Hubba88's sig that 1.3Ghz is achievable, that seems more than fast enough given the apps that are currently available. I'm thinking it will take a while for any apps to be taking advantage of dual cores...
Re Hinge, well I can cope with that if it becomes an issue, the teardown & repair looks pretty straight forward.

waydownsouth said:
Thanks all for your input so far,
I've been following the Official thread on which phone should I get for some weeks which does talk about the latest & greatest dual core's an awful lot, but, as I said above the support & dev work that has gone into the DZ already is probably the biggest factor for me, it should give me a good base to work/learn from.
I saw in Hubba88's sig that 1.3Ghz is achievable, that seems more than fast enough given the apps that are currently available. I'm thinking it will take a while for any apps to be taking advantage of dual cores...
Re Hinge, well I can cope with that if it becomes an issue, the teardown & repair looks pretty straight forward.
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Even 1.9 ghz is achievable . And I haven't had any problems with my hinge, it's pretty sturdy.

If you need a phone now, get the DZ.
If you can wait, wait until the quad core phones come out in 2012.

I love my G2 but I would not buy this phone again. With Swiftkey I find that I never use the hardware keyboard which was the main reason I bought my G2. If I could go back in time I would get a Nexus S or maybe a galaxy s.

Obvious answer is obvious:
Why get the same phone again when it has been 6 months since it first came out, therefore rendering the phone "obsolete", so to speak. If I had half a grand cash in my pocket right now I would wait for the HTC Pyramid (Their Dual Core).

Is this Phone Worth It?

Is the Defy is worth it? I understand that dual core devices are coming out, but the G2X is riddled with issues and I personally find no use for dual cores in a phone. My other options were the G2 and Mytouch 4G, but the G2 just seemed too fragile if dropped due to the plastic z-hinge, and the Mytouch is also riddled with numerous issues. Galaxy S 4G is out of the question (I hava a Vibrant already), so the Defy is basically my other option.
Is the locked bootloader really a huge drawback to this device? I am a bit used to the openness of the Vibrant but I would really like the added ruggedness and protection of the Defy. Plus, the Defy is one of the few phones that lacks any hardware issues (apart from the fixed earpiece issues of course). The only think that is really holding me back right now is the development, especially compared to the G2, Mytouch, or even the Vibrant.

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Not to me, but only you can tell.

Hardware and built quality of Motoroal Defy is very good. Battery life is excellent and screen is very descent. The upcoming Android 2.2.2 update appears degrading the video performance of the handset. I'm not that technical with mobile hardware but I really wish to ask Motorola why the perfect 720p playback all the sudden is an issue for Defy when the new OS offers 450% performance increase?
I've got a feeling Motoroal has regrets with Motorola Defy being so good, hardware wise, and now trying to sway the Defy users to buy other handsets such as Atrix by providing very poor service with updates and even the updates have ridiculous amount of bugs. Please read about the very recent Android 2.2.2 update in India in this forum or Motorola's. Please remember, Motorola released Defy in Dec 2010 and they had six months to work on Android 2.2.2 update.
I like Motorola Defy but dislike the company made it. They even refuse to announce a release date for their upcoming updates for different countries. I am not going to trust them anymore and already considering another brand.
I'm very sorry for being very expressive about my own personal experience with Motorola Defy. The final decision is yours of course.

CSharpHeaven said:
Hardware and built quality of Motoroal Defy is very good. Battery life is excellent and screen is very descent. The upcoming Android 2.2.2 update appears degrading the video performance of the handset...
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Backup your data and reset, or better wipe data/factory reset + flashing 2.2 sbf.

CSharpHeaven said:
I like Motorola Defy but dislike the company made it.
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This is how I mostly feel. Motorola just lacks the credibility that I have been accustomed to with HTC, or even Samsung right now given their timely release of 2.3 for the Galaxy S.
In the end, I may just succumb to the G2X and hope that my unit is fine.

Motorola just came back from dead valley, they came back with android platform. They have huge products in their production line with some upcoming in their pipelines. Defy is one of the best in motorola product line. We bought it as we already satisfied with the specifications at the shop. Upon reaching home we start complaining about it low software slow updates and lock bootloader.
Why would one buy it in the first place without doing some research.
Obviously I'm very satisfied with mine now knowing its cheap with decent overall performance.
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Go for it, you won't regret it !

The Defy, in my personal experience, is an absolutely wonderful phone. It looks great, feels great, and is relatively easy to use. The locked bootloader, ehhhhh. It's not really much of an issue Overall a great phone. Not a move you'd regret making.

Absolutely yes. It's a worryless phone for me.

My initial reaction to multicore phones is one of whats the point, on a PC going to multicore was a massive leap but on a smartphone? What actual multitasking to people do on a smartphone that requires a dual core processor?
My only problem with the Defy is Motorolas support for it, in the UK the phone is still being pushed as the hip and trendy lifestyle phone to own yet the offical line is no Android 2.3 and a slow 2.2 rollout. The Defy will be around for ages as it will filter down to PAYG at a cheaper level and it will continue to sell but Moto dont want to support it.

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I promise you will do that if Motorola ever release the Android 2.2.2 to UK first.

CSharpHeaven said:
I promise you will do that if Motorola ever release the Android 2.2.2 to UK first.
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I see. But then how could you complain about the video quality after 2.2.2 update, which is not yet released?

i guess for those complaining that Motorola is not updating fast enough, might as well spend a couple hundreds more and get the iphone. at least those Apple ppl are fast enough in updating. after all, it's a mid range phone from Motorola. you cant expect them to give you BMW service for a Ford price right?

[Q] Need advise about my next phone. Thanks for answering.

i´m thinking about retiring my Hero. But i can´t make a decision about Optimus 2x, optimus 3d o SE Xperia Arc.
I realise Arc isn´t that fast, but it´s got an amazing design, camera and ithink that the screen should be great. On the other hand, i don´t know if it´s going to be supported for that long two years of contract with the operator.
The other altenative are the LGs, far more powerfull, support (official or unoffical) it´s quite guaranted and they seem more durable for that 2 years.
So, what do you think? Is the Arc enough to handle android update for 2 years? Or should i buy one of the Lgs (which i don´t really like at all) to be sure about it support android updates?
Thanks for answering and excuse me for my english, i´m trying to improve it!

SE has been keeping up nicely with their support for the play and the arc. The new releases and update to the android os is actually really fast compared to all the companies except for the googles nexus phones.
Sony already announced 2.3.4 for September. I believe their attitude towards people who already bought a phone from them has changed recently. They realized that they need us to buy another from them in two years in order to keep their market shares up..
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Well, i own two out of the three you are choosing from and eventhough the lg has more opportunities to tweak at the moment, custom rom wise, and has dual core, I still prefer using my arc.
Its fast and stable enough for me, and the looks are just stunning. Of course playing games like riptide gp on the lg is amazing but I am not a big gamer.
from my Arc or Optimus 2x

I know the arc´s appearence is just amazing, wonderfull display and so. BUT i´m not sure about the custom roms realease, i mean, i actually got a Hero, and still developing roms for it. If i knew that in 24 month time from now they´d still keep on developing for the Arc, it´d be my new phone.
So i consider the Lg option bacause of that, i asume that the 2x as well as the 3d will have custom roms in 24 moths time quite sure, but no so with the Arc

Sony are far more likely IMO to provide long-term support for the Arc than LG are for their Optimus handsets.
LG pledged to provide a minimum of one major Android update to each of their handsets but since the 2X and 3D ship with 2.2, all LG has to do is update them to Gingerbread and they could drop all support then without breaking their word.
Obviously custom ROMs are a completely different matter and it's impossible to predict how things will play out for either handset.
As you say yourself, you're assuming that the LGs will still have support in a couple of years time.
But that's all it is, an assumption.

Well, i´ve almost made my mind about this about a 75%. I´ll choose the Optimus 3D because of this:
1- Xperia Arc´s got an awesome design and camera. But it´s got last-year hardware and and don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths.
2- Optimus 2X i also awesome, dual core and so. But, it´s kind of "included on the 3D". I mean, the 3D is like a 2X with bigger screen, tri-dual and 3D capabilities.
3- The 3D is the most powerfull phone, excellent for multimedia and costs me 0€ in vodafone SP.
Any advice is still thanked.

When you say you 'don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths', what do you mean exactly?

Step666 said:
When you say you 'don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths', what do you mean exactly?
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The contract i´m getting in Vodafone SP last for 24 months, i know, abusive. And that´s beacuse i want a phone that´d be able to run android updates for taht long. I realize it´s difficult to predict it, but i think the 3D has power enough inside for it, but the Arc seems unlikely to run android for that long. Finally, i believe that the 3D will have more custom roms movement and ports, we´ll see.....
I know i´m posting in the Arc forum and i also know that you all have chosed the Arc, i respect it because it´s still one of my options, but i also think it´s on disadvantage with the optimus.
Thank for your interest anyway.

24 month contracts are the norm in the UK, I understand that.
It was the part about the phone 'lasting' that long.
One last thing to consider is the warranty.
LG only give you one year, SE give you two.

Step666 said:
24 month contracts are the norm in the UK, I understand that.
It was the part about the phone 'lasting' that long.
One last thing to consider is the warranty.
LG only give you one year, SE give you two.
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Is spain laws oblidge carrieres to give 2 years warranty as a standart.
For "last" i undersrtand handling android updates. I´m sure it´ll do great with 2.3, hope so on 2.4 icecream sandwich, but not sure about custom roms..... will it be as much as is 2X? Who knows...

Desire HD ->Sensation/SGII

I'm concerned... My DHD is a super smartphone, but after all it's just a device that is getting "old".
I can't really say what will my next phone be. Sensation? GalaxySII?
The Sensation has good specs(although I played for a whole day with one, and it didn't seemed so fast), but lacks the beauty of the DHD.
SGS2 definitely has power on his side, and a amazing screen. But again, it's plastic body is hideos and overall seems like a larger Iphone.
So please tell me... what should I be looking at? I don't dig Sony Ericsson crapphones, nor other semimanufacturers like Motorola, LG, Huaweii or God knows what.

I guess an important question is, what do you need it for? That should inform your decision. (For me, I've never really seen the point in a dual-core phone, as I've never played a game on a phone and never will.)

Sensation and SGII getting old too - the next generation was in many previews, so wait for the future updates with better sound and displays and so on... If you want an actual smartphone, you have to buy one every two month. Dual and Quad Core are in all minds. They give you the chance for recording FULL HD Videos, navigate faster than before, play games with actual upcoming graphicchips...you must know, what you prefer. At this time the DHD has more abilities than the new HTC devices, because their resolutions are not supported by all apps. Also there are more specific roms and themes.

What do I need it for? What do you need it for? I use it at it's full potential, with games, various aps, recording, browsing, teethering etc etc.
Whoever buys a smartphone to use it a simple phone is not a normal person(no offence ).
Neo, your opinion is to wait for now. Probably you're right

I'll be very honest...I wouldn't be looking anywhere. Yes, the newer phones are more powerful, but trust me, if you upgrade, you aren't actually getting anything more. Dual core processors still aren't being utilised fully yet. The Sensation is literally nothing over a DHD with an official Sense 3.0 ROM, it's all very much the same.
To be honest, you've answered the question yourself. Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!

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I'll be very honest...I wouldn't be looking anywhere. Yes, the newer phones are more powerful, but trust me, if you upgrade, you aren't actually getting anything more. Dual core processors still aren't being utilised fully yet. The Sensation is literally nothing over a DHD with an official Sense 3.0 ROM, it's all very much the same.
To be honest, you've answered the question yourself. Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!
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Second that motion!
I use my Desire HD with Sense 3.5 (RCMix3D Bliss ROM) and it performs very well. Once the bluetooth problem has been fixed, Capychimp will have an awesome ROM for us all...

lambomanx1 said:
Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!
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I guess that's what I've wanted to hear from the beginning.

pupilov said:
I guess that's what I've wanted to hear from the beginning.
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I know what you mean. I got my DHD when the dual core phones were coming out, on purpose; I knew it was going to be cheaper, and I knew I wasn't loosing out much. I rooted from the very start, then worried that I had made the wrong decision when the SGS2 and Sensation came out...looking at everything now though, it's pretty clear I haven't

ive been on my dhd 4 a yr now nd havent been fascinated by any of the recent phones.....although i still use stock roms.....i love the sense interface so sammy is definitely out of the question. all dual cores as i have been readng havent really been utilized yet...im eagerly anticipating sense 3.5 update....it would b a new experience smhow. other than that i guess the only phone i wish was there is an android htc portrait slider...u know smthng like the dell venue pro for WP. Anyone thnks were gettng smthng like that anytime from htc?

Stick with DHD...because it same man...if ur next phone is sensation/sgs2...it will be outdated to...maybe will be a quad core cpu maybe...the technology in growing fast...haha
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You can see it in my signature.. i was often unable to wait, because i wanted to test all new systems...at least the WP7 UI, before i bought my DHD. I think, WP7 style is a modern way to operate with a smartphone, but today no abilities to have an individual style. Android UI is a new form of windows mobile, not really futuristic, but i can change all i want. On the DHD it´s nearly perfect at this time.
Maybe in one year i will use again a WP7 phone, because i like many of it´s features, especially the menus inside and the live tiles (with another style). But i hope, that google won´t sleep all the time and works also on new interfaces. The last updates remind me to the times, when windows mobile was updated. I miss the really impressive changes... see, what will come in the next years.

I would wait if i were you.... even the so called dual core are being updated. Word on the street is that dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz should be the standard before the end of the year....HTC have some nice lineup comming soon

I took your advises seriously. Me and my DHD are friends for almost a year now, so it has a few scratches and dents. So, in order to complete our "new" friendship, I send it back to HTC for a complete makeover(new housing and a internal cleaning ).
Thank you guys!