hi all,
i've just bought a new dhd so this is going to be a very noob question ^^'
i tried to search but in many posts i've found "overclocked to 1.036ghz" so i can't really understand if the dhd is overclocked at that frequency or if it is his "natural" max frequency.
i want to use setcpu to only set the smartass governor, so the question is: am i overclocking when setting the max frequency to 1.036ghz?
Thanks in advance.
Riekr said:
hi all,
i've just bought a new dhd so this is going to be a very noob question ^^'
i tried to search but in many posts i've found "overclocked to 1.036ghz" so i can't really understand if the dhd is overclocked at that frequency or if it is his "natural" max frequency.
i want to use setcpu to only set the smartass governor, so the question is: am i overclocking when setting the max frequency to 1.036ghz?
Thanks in advance.
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it´s a little bit oveclocked
u know that DHD works at 1ghz... +36 mhz its not a big thing... but its overclocked....
normally the processor by default works between 940-990 more or less...really its underclocked...again a little bit,,,
i don't understand fully, sorry
i'm using leedroid too.. how is it possible that there is no native frequency available? i can just only overclock or underclock a bit?
does it depend on the kernel i am using?
i don't want to overclock but i even don't want to _under_clock ^^'
thanks!
Riekr said:
i don't understand fully, sorry
i'm using leedroid too.. how is it possible that there is no native frequency available? i can just only overclock or underclock a bit?
does it depend on the kernel i am using?
i don't want to overclock but i even don't want to _under_clock ^^'
thanks!
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use the leedroid parameters by default...
leedroid was selected this parameters sure because with this features DHD works better...(combined with his rom or recommended roms for his kernel of course)
errr overclocked a bit....I think the phrase you are looking for is "clock speed is just that"
the Scorpion Processor is billed as a 1ghz, cos 1.036 ghz processor sounds stupid.
What Dave said lol!
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What Dave said lol!
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In other news, My 2.0ltr engine is actually 1988cc
also your engine is a little bit underclocked?
I think it is, but i usually keep it at 1.2
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errr overclocked a bit....I think the phrase you are looking for is "clock speed is just that"
the Scorpion Processor is billed as a 1ghz, cos 1.036 ghz processor sounds stupid.
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yes this is what i supposed but i still see various answer types in this thread too
on leedroid rom thread they said that the nominal frequency is 1024mhz but leedroid kernel steps 12mhz above or ~30mhz below.
i think someone with setcpu and stock kernel should just check that in a second
Riekr said:
yes this is what i supposed but i still see various answer types in this thread too
on leedroid rom thread they said that the nominal frequency is 1024mhz but leedroid kernel steps 12mhz above or ~30mhz below.
i think someone with setcpu and stock kernel should just check that in a second
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why is there a problem with these 12 mhz? 12 mhz is NOTHING.
usually i have my phone at 1.3 ghz and never happened anything
it's not a problem (i hope since oc may vary from piece to piece) i was just curious about those clock speeds
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it's not a problem (i hope since oc may vary from piece to piece) i was just curious about those clock speeds
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i think you have to ask lee for that, because he made the kernel you are using i think.
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Milestone Overclock - a free download from the marketplace does now support the Defy. Quadrant shows promising figures for sure.
Just wondering whether anyone has gotten the Defy to Overclock?
I've been trying some Droid Overclock apps as well as purchasing Set CPU.
I've successfully rooted my phone which is a requirement for enabling overclocking features. Set CPU won't even start.
None of the apps I've tried have been working properly.
Any tips?
in developement
Look on the milestone overclock googlecode page, its on the todo list
good to know
Yepp, thanx a lot. Since the chipset has clear OC potential this will be very interesting. Especially if the Defy has an omap3630 core, we'll see.
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Yepp, thanx a lot. Since the chipset has clear OC potential this will be very interesting. Especially if the Defy has an omap3630 core, we'll see.
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I'm pretty confident that it does indeed have a 3630: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9540564&postcount=34
Not only because of the screenshot from windows, but look at how close it is to the Droid X, running a 1ghz 3630.
Wow! and getting that benchmark score while running on 800MHz is quite impressive. I've got good hopes that a ported Milestone Overclock will unleash the raw power the phone truly possess.
And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
Im not sure how this phone is so amazing, and so cheap at the same time
umm yeah anyways, just wanted to say i got quadrant scored of around 1110 to 1118 ish i think- after task killing
Really hoping for some custom 2.2 roms in the near future, like some others said it will make this probably -one of- the best androids out there
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And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
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My personal best is 1104
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Whoa, nice one, Higgsy!
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Whoa, nice one, Higgsy!
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weeeeell to be fair there was a little cheat there, that was with JIT enabled. But JIT by the standard method wasn't stable, at first it was fine but then after ab out an hour I started to get random force closes, so I reverted. Its a little insight to what can be achieved with JIT. IMO I'll take JIT over a 1GHZ overclock.
Could anyone of you guys share your benchmark results after running Milestone Overclock? I'm now running on 1.2GHz and it's stable
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And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
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My first benchmark result was in mid 1000 but after a restart I got that score too.
To use JIT is better wait for froyo because have it in native form. There are a appl called JITTER in the market but I think that isn't reliable. (I don't know about other appl similar than)
Now I use the Milestone Overclock beta4 and configure the oc at 1000/56
Someone have better configuration to use? Can explain why?
Hey guys.. Overclocked my Defy with the Milestone Overclock. 1200/66
Got a 1438 benchmark on Quadrant Standard. Putting the vsel any lower got my Device to reboot.
After trying it out I switched back to 1000/52 because some users said that running on 66vsel could damage the CPU.
Main effect I had: Launcher runs very smooth, My battery life went down to 24 hours (37h before).
With 1000/52 I still get a benchmark around 1247
Works for me because I´m saving battery and still got enough power to have a smooth launcher.
But: Can anyone please tell me what the standard settings are ? *lol* Forgot them 800Mhz an vsel=???
Thx in advance.
Daniel (from germany)
Daniel.Stevens said:
Hey guys.. Overclocked my Defy with the Milestone Overclock. 1200/66
Got a 1438 benchmark on Quadrant Standard. Putting the vsel any lower got my Device to reboot.
After trying it out I switched back to 1000/52 because some users said that running on 66vsel could damage the CPU.
Main effect I had: Launcher runs very smooth, My battery life went down to 24 hours (37h before).
With 1000/52 I still get a benchmark around 1247
Works for me because I´m saving battery and still got enough power to have a smooth launcher.
But: Can anyone please tell me what the standard settings are ? *lol* Forgot them 800Mhz an vsel=???
Thx in advance.
Daniel (from germany)
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Someone in the other thread was running 800/38, I haven't tried it because like you 1000/52 gives me better battery life than stock and more power on top.
Higgsy said:
Someone in the other thread was running 800/38, I haven't tried it because like you 1000/52 gives me better battery life than stock and more power on top.
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Thanks for answering ;0)
I just wanted to know the original settings in case I wanted to restore them someday.
Or do I just have to click on "unload module" for that ?!? (I gues that´s it I was just to blind/dumb to see it *lol*)
Thx ;0)
Daniel.Stevens said:
Thanks for answering ;0)
I just wanted to know the original settings in case I wanted to restore them someday.
Or do I just have to click on "unload module" for that ?!? (I gues that´s it I was just to blind/dumb to see it *lol*)
Thx ;0)
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Yeah just unload module and untick apply on boot and your back to stock
Im currently running 1100MHZ with a 58vsel, seems stable so far and got a quadrant benchmark of 1317. But i am wondering if this setting is safe for long term use, I need my phone to last till the end of this conract
This is not mine. At 1000Hz (52Vsel) I got only 2000.
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Which rom did you use?
Hi ABC Universal,
can you tell us how did you reach this score ???
The difference is so big...!!??
Looks like you're based on a chinese version as I see some chinese in the status bar.
Thx.
Really impressive!!!
How is it possible?
My stock rom eclair 2.21 with jit and deodex keep an highest value of 1550 on quadrant...
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1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.
tomeu0000 said:
1- A fake.
2- Sense Kernel or something similar.
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Agree
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It is genuine output from quadrant running on defy. But yes there is no miracle performance boost.
Actually it demonstrated a limitation of defy's (and many others') CPU and a problem of quadrant benchmark. There is a detailed Chinese article explaning it but I understand only a little. Essentially, with some settings in android 2.2 system, defy (and many others) will fail the H264 decoding test, but quadrant takes it as completed in mini second, and thus the exceptional high cpu mark.
It was originated by some low end Chinese android phones which surprised people with exceptional quadrant benchmark. It turned out they had these settings enabled by default (/system/build.prop):
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true
So this simply means the guys over at Aurora need to update their software to read the fail and drop the score to where it should be in reference to high end phones.
Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?
sandresimon said:
Does it mean that the Nexus and Evo 2.2+ scores are also wrong for the same reason?
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According to the discussions, these two models enabled the settings by default. But I don't have them to examine myself.
That's explains why you install the sense rom, you obtain amazing Quadrant scores...
But really? no better performance? i thing this processor can do more than now...
not fake, i can do that too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976015
I think people getting 2700+ from defy now with this hack
hohoho, i go to try this....
EDIT.: For me, 1750 1Ghz 57vel
I've got 1231 @ 1000 mhz/53 vsel and 1303 @ 1100 mhz/55 vsel.
What benchmark app is this?
Whooooaaa!!! I don't believe it....!! Look awesome!
Down the line if the Defy can stay at average/consistant score around 1300 to 1500 should be more than enough running the daily apps/games available in the market.
Hit it more will eventually fried the poor Defy... huhuhu..!
mine got [email protected] on cm7 beta6, so you don't need to "cheat" to get a score that high out of the defy
this is my best score:
2617 on my defy with cm7 beta 6, cpu set to 1200 mhz and 80 vsel
but I think that there is something wrong: I usually get about 2200 (1950 with 1000 mhz, 1700 with 800 mhz), but every 5-6 tests i get similar score
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What benchmark app is this?
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Quadrant
lets post scores and what we are running to get their to help compare the different options available now for our Droid Incredible 2's
1649 gingerbread (.3.) for another week or so
CM7 Nightly 2. Stock kernel, not overlocked:
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Cm7 overlocked to 1497
30 minutes or so later...and yes my crappy digital cameras clock is wrong
Cyanogen 1.8ghz
Underclocked and still better than stock. Runs great at 768mhz. No complaints.
Maximum overclock on stock CM7 kernel (~1.5ghz).
I did some tests with the CM7 Nightly 3. I got some amazing scores:
Stock cpu speed:
1.2GHz:
1.45GHz:
1.6GHz:
1.7 and 1.8GHz gave me lower scores than 1.6GHz, so I guess its safe to say 1.6Ghz is the max stable speed.
can't wait to hit cm7 and push it now !!!
Running miui at 1.49ghtz.
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Im running cm7 nightly 3 at 1.8 (and tested at 1.6) I am only around 2800 how are y'all getting up to 3500?
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Interestingly, after some tweaking, messing around, and other stuff, I managed to score over 2200 at 768mhz. I'm getting some nice smooth performance out of it while underclocked, and getting it to do things quicker means it'll save that much more battery.
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Interestingly, after some tweaking, messing around, and other stuff, I managed to score over 2200 at 768mhz. I'm getting some nice smooth performance out of it while underclocked, and getting it to do things quicker means it'll save that much more battery.
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What exactly did you tweak and mess around with? Cause that's sounds pretty nice.
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What exactly did you tweak and mess around with? Cause that's sounds pretty nice.
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I'm not really sure, to be honest. I was mostly tweaking personal preferences, then messing with governors on the CPU. While comparing governors, the number kept climbing until it broke 2200 then fell back to just under 2200. I double checked my CPU clock settings to make sure I was still at 768mhz. I haven't really done any further testing. I suspect part of it may be JIT optimizations, but I'm not sure.
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I'm not really sure, to be honest. I was mostly tweaking personal preferences, then messing with governors on the CPU. While comparing governors, the number kept climbing until it broke 2200 then fell back to just under 2200. I double checked my CPU clock settings to make sure I was still at 768mhz. I haven't really done any further testing. I suspect part of it may be JIT optimizations, but I'm not sure.
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Yea I was messing around with the different govenors after reading your post and I noticed a big difference between the power saver and ONdemand. Power saver makes the transitions a little sluggish but I guess that's to be expected for what it's trying to do. lol All in all though the battery life on ondemand is leaps and bounds ahead of the stock ROM I'm running a 1.1ghz clock right now and it is like butter with battery life to boot.
Quad Standard
mine came in at 2924 thats awesome!
tragedy , mine is between 1250-1500
zozor said:
tragedy , mine is between 1250-1500
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What Rom
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zozor said:
tragedy , mine is between 1250-1500
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Stock ROM? Mine wasn't even that low stock. Did you run it more than once?
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am running this rom
[ROM] Offical Gingerbread 2.3.4 ROM is out via OTA by ChinaTelcom
zozor said:
am running this rom
[ROM] Offical Gingerbread 2.3.4 ROM is out via OTA by ChinaTelcom
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Damn sorry bro I got a 2900 while on the phone lol
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just wondering what you guys are getting for clock speeds on your galaxy nexus, im successfully running 1.65 Ghz using franco's #18.2, stable and random reboot free, i would love to hear yours
What are your uv settings?
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Weird I'm having trouble uploading from my app. But its 1450 mV for 1.65 and 1.6 1400 mV for 1500. i haven't done any undervolting yet, i dont want to mess with the stability, mainly because im happy my phone even runs on 1.65.
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"Today, we put to rest our dear friend, Battery. He will be missed, even though he was rarely there when we needed him most."
*Shovels dirt into the grave*
I myself not so concern about battery life loss from CPU OC as long as the screen is still consuming 50% of it everyday...
meh, i have a extended battery, get decent battery life and have an extra, so im not worried. and its not like im at a constant 1.6, im happy with it so far gonna use it for a few days and see how it goes
who cares about battery life when you have a massive e-peens!
Literally just got into rooting and theming with my first android (gnex). Rooted and installed aokp b25 with nova launcher and loving it!
Is there noob guide to over clocking? Or a go to app or anything?
Maybe a tutorial? lol
Google can be your best friend. thats how i did it
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you have a massive e-peens!
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Guilty as charged.
s2d4 said:
who cares about battery life when you have a massive e-peens!
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But....Quadrants must rule!
To the person who said they don't care when the screen takes 50%....
That makes no sense on why not to care about battery loss from overclocking.
Less == less, no matter what is draining it.
Dylerium said:
Google can be your best friend. thats how i did it
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Thats how I rooted my phone and installed my rom. All googling, literally had no idea how to root or install a rom. Didn't even know any of the terminology.
Overclocking seems to be a bit more risky. I've tried googling a tutorial/beginners guide would be amazing.
What kernel are you guys using and where can I find it?
im using franco's #18.2 kernel you can find it in the cdma developer section
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Does anyone find it amusing his CPU score is lower than a stock Galaxy Nexus and instead his i/o score is inflated?
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Does anyone find it amusing his CPU score is lower than a stock Galaxy Nexus and instead his i/o score is inflated?
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generous use of of loading quadrant into ramdisk?
i noticed this too, i was gonna ask but i figured since all phones are different, it didnt really matter, but who the hell am i to say, your the expert...
I don't play the benchmark game, but ignoring your i/o score, your CPU score which an overclock would address is lower than stock 1.2ghz.
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generous use of of loading quadrant intobramdisk?
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wtf is bramdisk?... i honestly dont know why my phones like that, i just dl'd and benched... i have a feeling i might have to upload a video for you guys... hahah
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Hey guys, can you suggest me some good trickster mod settings for good batter and performance? Right now I'm kinda like a noob, don't know much about the settings.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, can you suggest me some good trickster mod settings for good batter and performance? Right now I'm kinda like a noob, don't know much about the settings.
Thanks in advance!
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It will depend differently for each different kernel. If you want performance, set the minimum and maximum frequency to the highest stable and governor to performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017715
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It will depend differently for each different kernel. If you want performance, set the minimum and maximum frequency to the highest stable and governor to performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017715
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Thanks for the link! Can you suggest me some good voltage settings?
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Thanks for the link! Can you suggest me some good voltage settings?
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with a set millivolt for each frequency. You can generally undervolt 50-100 mV while remaining stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072087
Undervolting doesn't make a difference in power consumption. The Snapdragon S4 has AVS (Adaptive Voltage Scaling).
The voltage you are setting is only an initial value, immediately after a frequency switch, AVS kicks in and auto-selects the optimal voltage. You don't get ANY power consumption benefit from undervolting, but you risk crashing the CPU during the brief period before AVS kicks in. (I've done power measurements.)
AVS appears to be always active and can't be disabled.
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You should see something like this
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with a set millivolt for each frequency. You can generally undervolt 50-100 mV while remaining stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072087
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That thread is about a phone with Exynos CPU - very different thing.
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Undervolting doesn't make a difference in power consumption. The Snapdragon S4 has AVS (Adaptive Voltage Scaling).
The voltage you are setting is only an initial value, immediately after a frequency switch, AVS kicks in and auto-selects the optimal voltage. You don't get ANY power consumption benefit from undervolting, but you risk crashing the CPU during the brief period before AVS kicks in. (I've done power measurements.)
AVS appears to be always active and can't be disabled.
That thread is about a phone with Exynos CPU - very different thing.
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Yes, the Snapdragon 600 CPU does have dynamic GPU and voltage. Since he is a noob, the thread that I linked was just to give some general information on frequency, scaling, under/overclocking, and stability testing. Learning how to undervolt can be transferable to another device in the future.
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You should see something like this
with a set millivolt for each frequency. You can generally undervolt 50-100 mV while remaining stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072087
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Thanks again!
Is franco the best kernel out there for nexus 7?
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Thanks again!
Is franco the best kernel out there for nexus 7?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458708