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Where does Amazon App store put data?

Anyone know where the amazon app store stores all the .apk and other data. This is probably obvious but sometimes we are all a little retarded

I would think it would need to be in /data/app to run, but I could be wrong. The apps may also be in /data/app-private

plainjane said:
I would think it would need to be in /data/app to run, but I could be wrong. The apps may also be in /data/app-private
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Ahhh.. Duh. Good call. Thanks
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In the end, there's really no difference between the Amazon app store and any other method of sideloading an app. The app gets installed just like any other.
Data will be in /data/data. App will be in /data/app, or in an encrypted container stored under /sdcard/.android_secure and mounted under /mnt/asec if it's been moved to the SD card. Some apps also show up in /data/app-private, though I'm not sure what's determining that.

I was wondering the same thing, When Amazon Downloads apps, where does it store the data(before it is installed)..... because when I uninstall an app, amazon still has it downloaded and stored... but where??? Ive looked on Sd card, but nothing... I just hope it doesn't take and use up all my data for apps I DL, but uninstall

mdmitchell13 said:
I was wondering the same thing, When Amazon Downloads apps, where does it store the data(before it is installed)..... because when I uninstall an app, amazon still has it downloaded and stored... but where??? Ive looked on Sd card, but nothing... I just hope it doesn't take and use up all my data for apps I DL, but uninstall
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If I used it & felt like giving out card info for free apps, I'd look further into it. Why do you use the Amazon App Store as opposed to the market? Is there anything I'm missing out on except for the free paid apps each day?
And I'm confused by your explanation of app downloads. Are you saying Amazon downloads the apps, then you have to choose install from the notification bar (or something similar)?

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Some apps also show up in /data/app-private, though I'm not sure what's determining that.
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Apps in /data/app-private are considered "protected". Backup apps (without root access) cannot backup these apps. The developers don't want the .apks easily accessible to everyone (for whatever reason).

If you get the app from the amazon app store on your phone just because it's the free app of the day, but you don't have intention of installing the app and using it right away, amazon still downloads the .apk on to your phone on the sd card, under /sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/cache

Yes, that's it exactly. Thanks!
This is aprticularly useful for Android owners on AT&T so we can get the free app and asave the apk and then use Android Injector or similar to sideload.
For those doing this, you must grab the APK from this folder before you download the next app since it seems it removes the previous download when downloading the next app.
I download it, grab it from my phone to my PC and then sideload it from there. Annoying, but until AT&T release their deadly grip on my phone's ability to install from other sources, this is the only way.
It'd be nice if you could download the APK directly from Amazon's pc-based webiste, but oh well there too.
I am not rooted for those that were curious and am running a stock ROM on my Motorola Atrix -- I know this is wrong forum, but it came up for my Google search and I figure it will help others doing the same.

Angry birds not in data/app?
Sort of along this topic.. I am aware no matter how the app is installed, it's typically in data/app data/app-private, or possibly system/app folders. However I've noticed recently that I cannot view the apk files for any angry birds games regardless of how they're installed, whether it be amazon app store or android market. I've been backing up the apps I purchase, or the 1 free app a day from the amazon market, however I cannot locate any of the angry birds games? I've done some searching for this and haven't been able to come across a reason or explanation. I am rooted, I typically use ES File Explorer on the phone or Droid Explorer on the computer.
Edit: I did end up finding out my problem (user error). As they automagically move to the sd card, they were not showing in the data app folder. I moved them all back over to the phone, rebooted, backed up the apk from the data/app, then put them back on the sd card. I tried to move them initially, but they weren't showing until I rebooted.

How would one take advantage of this with an app that is from the Play Store as well?
Allow me to explain...
I LOVE Jetpack Joyride. I have it originally on my iPhone 3GS. When I switched to Android with the Galaxy SII (i777; AT&T), I wanted it. Bad. It finally came but first through the Amazon App store. I immediately downloaded it, despite my disdain for the Amazon app. Well now Jetpack Joyride is available through the Play Store and I'd like to use it through there just with the way updating works (auto as opposed to Amazon's clunk, terrible app where I have to go in a basically sideload it). Is there a way to keep the save data from JJ that I have from Amazon and copy it to the right spot so if I were to have gotten JJ from the Play Store, that it could access it and I could just continue swimmingly? I've already installed JJ from both spots at the same time and the Play Store version (gotten after) starts from 0% where as the Amazon version holds all of my achievements, etc. It sounds possible in my head (and I know I've done it for things like PC games in the past) but I'm not as familiar with the file structure of Android as I am with Windows. Appreciate any advice even if it is just suck it up and stick with JJ through Amazon and not worry about it (it really isn't a big deal).

/sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/

Install apps from Amazon app store

I don't know if anyone has heard of this app, but as I was trolling the net looking for any 2.2 android roms for my sister's flipside, I came across an app in the android marketplace called, "Non-market Apps Enabler" by Bandroidx. It costs $1.69, but after installing it, I now had the option to uncheck or check install apps from non market sources, or whatever the thing says. So now I can install apps from the amazon marketplace or and 3rd party site and not have it blocked by ATT. Of course the phone it rooted and unlocked. Give it a try guys.

Yes, that's how I unlocked my unknown sources. I would have loved to been able to do so the running codes way, but I'm just not that comfortable doing that. Couple bucks to make my phone MINE seemed worth it to me. Plus, since I have link2sd, when I installed it, it immediately linked it which makes the app think it was uninstalled which resulted in a refund, but I was able to keep the app. So I got the app free and still enabled unknown sources. I would gladly pay the dev tho for his hard work.
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Amazon Appstore vs. Play Store Updating Conflict

I don't know why I'm posting here as this is also happening to my Galaxy Tab 10.1, but for some reason, Angry Birds Rio and Pocket, are caught up in an updating loop between Amazon Appstore and Play Store. Whenever I update it using one market, the other market says that app needs to be updated. Doing so, will revert the update-needed status to the other market, and so on. I know it has nothing to do with each of the markets as I have tried originally downloading the files from one and the other and this still happens.
The weird part is that it only occurs with these 2 apps. All other apps that was updating using one market, cleared the update status on the other market as well.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?! I know it may sound confusing, so I can explain it a little better if needed.
Thanks in advance...

I get the same thing, only for Pandora though. Really annoying.
It burns when I Tapatalk...

I have had this problem for a long time. Here is the issue. If you ever "bought" it in the Amazon store, it will show up there. I have 5 apps that have this problem, and it is because I must have installed them at some point from the Amazon store, so they are on the Amazon list. There is no way (that I am aware of) to remove something from the Amazon store after you have installed it. It will always show up on your list, and therefore will always show a conflict even if it is the same version. It is VERY annoying, and I wish I could fix it, but I can't.
maybe someone else have a solution, but I don't.

I think you are talking about the "Available Apps" list in the Amazon Appstore. I am talking about the "Update List". I have never bought Angry Birds Rio in either store and this loop is found between them.

Amazon appstore is crap. I won't even install the free apps anymore. The apps I really like I repurchased from the play store.

washere said:
There is no way (that I am aware of) to remove something from the Amazon store after you have installed it. It will always show up on your list, and therefore will always show a conflict even if it is the same version.
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Actually you can remove apps from the Amazon App store if you log into your Amazon account (NOT in Appstore). Once logged in, go to Your Account, then to Your Apps and Devices. There you should see a list of all your apps you have purchased as well as any free apps of the day you may have downloaded. Click on the Actions button beside the app and select Delete This App. Easy peasy!
And as an aside, I have had the exact same problems with updates between the Amazon and Google Play stores.

My quick answer is choose one market over the other.
Amazon and their penchant for DRM is enough to keep me away. The lack of support for e-pub format on the kindle is also annoying.
I could go on but no one wants to hear it.

keithatoz said:
Actually you can remove apps from the Amazon App store if you log into your Amazon account (NOT in Appstore). Once logged in, go to Your Account, then to Your Apps and Devices. There you should see a list of all your apps you have purchased as well as any free apps of the day you may have downloaded. Click on the Actions button beside the app and select Delete This App. Easy peasy!
And as an aside, I have had the exact same problems with updates between the Amazon and Google Play stores.
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Oh **** they added that finally? Nice

Well, I removed Pocket from my app list in the Appstore site and it is still showing it in the Update tab for Amazon Appstore. Even though I downloaded it from the Play Store.
This is so annoying. Shouldn't the markets verify the app version somehow and work with each other?

Wow! The new update for Amazon Appstore from today fixed my issues with Pocket. The only problem is with Angry Birds Rio now. I think it might have something to do with it being ad-free from Amazon and not from the Play Store. Anyone else can confirm that Rio is giving them this issue?
How weird that the update came out today. It's like they're spying on us. =)
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I have had this issue with k9 mail forever. The problem lies with amazon using older versions of most apps. Unless it is a FAOTD I don't even bother getting it from amazon. Play store ALWAYS has a newer version

akarol said:
I don't know why I'm posting here as this is also happening to my Galaxy Tab 10.1, but for some reason, Angry Birds Rio and Pocket, are caught up in an updating loop between Amazon Appstore and Play Store. Whenever I update it using one market, the other market says that app needs to be updated. Doing so, will revert the update-needed status to the other market, and so on. I know it has nothing to do with each of the markets as I have tried originally downloading the files from one and the other and this still happens.
The weird part is that it only occurs with these 2 apps. All other apps that was updating using one market, cleared the update status on the other market as well.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?! I know it may sound confusing, so I can explain it a little better if needed.
Thanks in advance...
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Your not alone I got quite a few apps from Amazon and having same issue with play store
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akarol said:
Wow! The new update for Amazon Appstore from today fixed my issues with Pocket. The only problem is with Angry Birds Rio now. I think it might have something to do with it being ad-free from Amazon and not from the Play Store. Anyone else can confirm that Rio is giving them this issue?
How weird that the update came out today. It's like they're spying on us. =)
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Same here with Rio
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[Q] Question about the amazon app store

Hey everyone,
I just got a brand new Kindle Fire 2nd gen last night. I successfully rooted it and used KindleFree to put Nova launcher on it. I also used Titanium BU to restore several apps and uninstalled some bloat. The only issues I am having really is with the Amazon App Store. I have the app store on my Nexus 4 and have gathered several "Free apps of the day" over the last couple years. The Appstore does not seem to recognize any of the apps I have purchased. If I go to "Cloud" it does not show the same apps that I see on my Nexus 4. Also if I go to Amazons website and I look there I only see one app listed under my apps. I cleared data and logged into the app store again from my Nexus and oops I only see one app again. So then I unistalled the Amazon store from my Nexus and restored app+data using TB and it shows all my apps again. I tried using TB to restore my app+data for the Kindle and it will still only show one app ( which is ES file explorer I downloaded last night on the Kindle) Am I missig something? Why isn't the Kindle recognizing the apps I have downloaded under my account? Has anyone else experienced a similiar issue? This is terrible.
I also can not change any wallpapers using Nova Launcher. Any thoughts on this ? I really appreciate the help. If rooting this thing and putting CM on it didn't seem so risky I would just do that lol. Thanks for any help you can offer.

Would actually trying to reach out to Amazon Appstore customer service do any good? I kinda doubt it. I am sure it is something that just needs to be cleared or wiped or restored or something. I am just not sure what it is. The biggest concern is what I see at Amazon.com when I log in and don't see anything under my apps....

jcnbama said:
Hey everyone,
I just got a brand new Kindle Fire 2nd gen last night. I successfully rooted it and used KindleFree to put Nova launcher on it. I also used Titanium BU to restore several apps and uninstalled some bloat. The only issues I am having really is with the Amazon App Store. I have the app store on my Nexus 4 and have gathered several "Free apps of the day" over the last couple years. The Appstore does not seem to recognize any of the apps I have purchased. If I go to "Cloud" it does not show the same apps that I see on my Nexus 4. Also if I go to Amazons website and I look there I only see one app listed under my apps. I cleared data and logged into the app store again from my Nexus and oops I only see one app again. So then I unistalled the Amazon store from my Nexus and restored app+data using TB and it shows all my apps again. I tried using TB to restore my app+data for the Kindle and it will still only show one app ( which is ES file explorer I downloaded last night on the Kindle) Am I missig something? Why isn't the Kindle recognizing the apps I have downloaded under my account? Has anyone else experienced a similiar issue? This is terrible.
I also can not change any wallpapers using Nova Launcher. Any thoughts on this ? I really appreciate the help. If rooting this thing and putting CM on it didn't seem so risky I would just do that lol. Thanks for any help you can offer.
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Amazon made an update that blocks users from changing wallpapers. Also, just follow the directions well from threads and you'll be find on installing CM.
About the apps, though... maybe you have more than one account? :silly: Sorry

How did this happen? Can't Search, Click and apps look different

Hi all.
I've gone through the regular build of my firetv. I usually let aptoide update all the apps automatically, however After the update (im not sure) the firetv is behaving with the following issues.
1. I cannot click on any of the apps from the recent or home screen.
2. I have to select the apps on the manage installed apps page.
3. The apps location looks different and has kodi in it. that shouldn't be the case as kodi is not an amazon sanctioned app.
Is there a utility that got installed?
really really appreciate your help. please see the screen shot

navigates said:
Hi all.
I've gone through the regular build of my firetv. I usually let aptoide update all the apps automatically, however After the update (im not sure) the firetv is behaving with the following issues.
1. I cannot click on any of the apps from the recent or home screen.
2. I have to select the apps on the manage installed apps page.
3. The apps location looks different and has kodi in it. that shouldn't be the case as kodi is not an amazon sanctioned app.
Is there a utility that got installed?
really really appreciate your help. please see the screen shot
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Thanks for rbox's recovery, I recovered by cleaning all data and back from scratch with keeping my root. I still am curious. how did this anomy happy. I believe aptoid updated some foundation libraries and my firetv was set to install from unknown sources.

It looks to me like the stock amazon app store was installed. Just a guess

collindv said:
It looks to me like the stock amazon app store was installed. Just a guess
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Really? Don't know what is a stock amazon app store. I did the recovery and got back to where it should be. Had to redo all apps again but that is a smaller task. The only change I had done was to let aptoide update all updates which I usually don't let aptoide take over. it also updated supersu etc.

navigates said:
Really? Don't know what is a stock amazon app store. I did the recovery and got back to where it should be. Had to redo all apps again but that is a smaller task. The only change I had done was to let aptoide update all updates which I usually don't let aptoide take over. it also updated supersu etc.
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The app store was installed. Do not update all appps with any third party app store. Aptoide always has an update for the amazon app store and if you update it, it installs the actual app store. Pay attention to what apps you are updating and what the version number is, cause sometimes the apps are actually downgraded with third party app stores. I update all apps one at a time with third party app stores, and I check to make sure that the app is the right version by checking it in the google play store first. There are also a lot of fake apps on third party app stores. Lets say you have version 1.2 installed and the updated version is actually 1.3, third party app stores may say the version is 1.4 or 1.5, and that always means the app is fake. So basically, never batch update/auto update with third party app stores, and always check the version number and you will be fine. If the version number does not match, do not update, and if you do not want your apps displayed like an app drawer on the fire TV then never update the amazon app store. BTW, if you accidentally install the amazon app store again, simply uninstall and reboot and it will go back to normal.

porkenhimer said:
The app store was installed. Do not update all appps with any third party app store. Aptoide always has an update for the amazon app store and if you update it, it installs the actual app store. Pay attention to what apps you are updating and what the version number is, cause sometimes the apps are actually downgraded with third party app stores. I update all apps one at a time with third party app stores, and I check to make sure that the app is the right version by checking it in the google play store first. There are also a lot of fake apps on third party app stores. Lets say you have version 1.2 installed and the updated version is actually 1.3, third party app stores may say the version is 1.4 or 1.5, and that always means the app is fake. So basically, never batch update/auto update with third party app stores, and always check the version number and you will be fine. If the version number does not match, do not update, and if you do not want your apps displayed like an app drawer on the fire TV then never update the amazon app store. BTW, if you accidentally install the amazon app store again, simply uninstall and reboot and it will go back to normal.
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I wish I knew this earlier would have saved me loads of time redoing the box again, but that too is no biggie as most of my build is automated through batch files. I didn’t know there is an app store. I’ll be careful. I too typically don’t update all but do it one at a time. The good tip is to check the version number before updating which I will. I’m contemplating getting another rooted one for my self as a backup as those are getting hard to find and my local best buy has a few on hand.

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navigates said:
I wish I knew this earlier would have saved me loads of time redoing the box again, but that too is no biggie as most of my build is automated through batch files. I didn’t know there is an app store. I’ll be careful. I too typically don’t update all but do it one at a time. The good tip is to check the version number before updating which I will. I’m contemplating getting another rooted one for my self as a backup as those are getting hard to find and my local best buy has a few on hand.
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Even if they are not rootable, they are still worth the money. The only advantages I really see in rooting is having the play store, default lanchers and external drive support. I could care less about a launcher on the fire TV, cause none of them function correctly anyway, and not having the play store is even less of a care for me, cause I have all the apps I need or want without it. External drive support would be nice, but I am pretty sure it will come in a future update from amazon so no big deal. I guess I can say my only gripe about the Fire TV is that it does not support a lot of apps that are sideloaded, but that is not amazons fault and every device doesn't support all apps.

porkenhimer said:
​Even if they are not rootable, they are still worth the money. The only advantages I really see in rooting is having the play store, default lanchers and external drive support. I could care less about a launcher on the fire TV, cause none of them function correctly anyway, and not having the play store is even less of a care for me, cause I have all the apps I need or want without it. External drive support would be nice, but I am pretty sure it will come in a future update from amazon so no big deal. I guess I can say my only gripe about the Fire TV is that it does not support a lot of apps that are sideloaded, but that is not amazons fault and every device doesn't support all apps.
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Agreed. At the moment, the benefits of rooting is not outweighed at the moment, however, the custom rom is around the horizon. I specifically like the suspend feature on kodi. Another rooted feature I like is quicksupport/teamviewer, so I can help my family incase they need help. I may drive down to bestbuy on my way in and pick up one of the rootable units and keep it on the side for future need or family need.
Or should I get the nexus player.

navigates said:
Agreed. At the moment, the benefits of rooting is not outweighed at the moment, however, the custom rom is around the horizon. I specifically like the suspend feature on kodi. Another rooted feature I like is quicksupport/teamviewer, so I can help my family incase they need help. I may drive down to bestbuy on my way in and pick up one of the rootable units and keep it on the side for future need or family need.
Or should I get the nexus player.
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You should get the device you like. If you already know the Fire TV is good for you then why not get another? If you wanna different experience get the Nexus Player or another device of your choosing. Its all subjective, and no one can really answer that for you. Just my opinion, you will be hard pressed to find another android box that can compete with the Fire TV. There are a lot of devices that have great specs that do not compare to the Fire TV, even without root. There is a reason why there are thousands off videos comparing the Fire TV to the Roku and Apple TV, cause its is the top Android box, period.

porkenhimer said:
You should get the device you like. If you already know the Fire TV is good for you then why not get another? If you wanna different experience get the Nexus Player or another device of your choosing. Its all subjective, and no one can really answer that for you. Just my opinion, you will be hard pressed to find another android box that can compete with the Fire TV. There are a lot of devices that have great specs that do not compare to the Fire TV, even without root. There is a reason why there are thousands off videos comparing the Fire TV to the Roku and Apple TV, cause its is the top Android box, period.
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Agreed. I've gotten myself another box as the serial number was in the series 3 and I would like to keep it rooted. I'm confident a custom rom is around the corner. So far I've given the firetv to my parents, inlaws, brother in law, 3 cousins and loads of friends. They all are super excited about it. the downside is that I'm getting tired of building one for friends as when people ask, they don't realize the effort that is put into building one, specially for rooting. I feel if building one, give the full honesty and build a good one/rooted as you never know what new is around the horizon.

Yes its stock amazon app store, i made the same mistake when apiode updated the amazon store for me. All you have to do is uninstall it.
go to settings apps click on amazon app store and clear data and cash uninstall then reboot.