Develop Bugs

updating rooted Desire to the latest OTA

Hey guys,
I've got the latest update OTA ready to install, but since my device is rooted I'm wondering what do I do?
I've read threads stating to just update and re root it and others say it won't go through and I'd have to disable signatures in clockwork recovery !
hence I'm confused, please help
Cheers
Jackie

Its not safe to perform official ota updates on rooted devices.
Most of the time nothing happens, you just lose root. But anything could happen from losing your custom recovery to a non booting device, which is known to happen.
If you want updated software on your phone install a custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

same situation, my question is can i apply this RUU from PC, and what will happen exactly? Lose root, data?
i found this RUU RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed

you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.

mikep99 said:
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know about the Goldcard. Any idea on how to do a backup, i have read about using Titanium but i found it confusing. Little help would be useful

yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).

mikep99 said:
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, but there is an option all apps and data. what is data? is it app data?

Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mikep99 said:
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did it just now, went fine. Thanks for the help
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

So there is still no way to just update by update.zip?
I dont want to reflash my whole phone, I got everything backed up propper
but I find it crap because its just a very small update.

Just ignore the update then, if your phone is working fine
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

hmm an official update from htc, great. but if you are rooted and have tried a custom rom or even many such as me, then you dont want to loose that ability to flash great custom roms, just because htc released an update.
i am not sure, but i think that some users just unrevoked (rooted) their devices, but havent installed any custom roms and dont have the joy of it. i never want go to back to original rom. my future updates would be out of a custom rom. great forum here, love it

I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?

pt0x said:
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !

jackie_jagger said:
so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting your device voids your warranty just as much as flashing a custom rom would. Either way would have to use the stock ruu before you send if back so it makes no difference if your stock rooted or have a custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Resolved] Wanting to Update Froyo 2.1 to 2.2 Steps

Since I am a noob to all of this and still taking baby steps I need help.
I would like to update froyo 2.1 to 2.2 to my already rooted Evo 4g, rooted with Unrevoked.
What OTA trustworthy file/link should I use?
How do I proceed step wise?
And will I lose Root and does it really matter, since I can just Re-root?
Also will I lose my current flashed phone information if I update Froyo?
Thanks in advanced
Edit: Flashed to Gingerbread 2.3.3 Awesome!

If you re rooted then it's a simple matter of picking what you like from the below link and flashing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653

If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?

Starburst13 said:
If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just backup your apps in titanium backup and you'll be good to go.

Cool thanks, the apps were the least of my concerns, but I did do the titanium backup.
I actually love the cloud server/sync they offer now. It's almost transparent power wise too.

Starburst13 said:
If I flash will I lose any data?
Meaning will I have to reprogram the phone to work for data and phone services?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should always wipe data, cache and dalvik cache when flashing a new rom. Yes you will lose your app's and data, but you will not have to reprogram the phone with sprint.

Any suggestions on a worthy Rom?
Is there any RUU rom for Froyo 2.2? the RUU radios work really well so far.
Oh and thanks for the valuable info so far.

Starburst13 said:
Any suggestions on a worthy Rom?
Is there any RUU rom for Froyo 2.2? the RUU radios work really well so far.
Oh and thanks for the valuable info so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there a reason you want froyo? There are plenty of gingerbread roms out there including stock gingerbread ones.

No your right I don't actually need Froyo, but I would like to keep a stable environment for Sprint Navagator, which is the only Bloatware I have left and I have a few applications for work I need that need 2.2 Android for, but other than those reasons I don't need Froyo.
Just a stable rom that I can flash easily with Clockwork, in recovery mode.
Thanks.

Issue Resolved....Went with Gingerbread 2.3.3 Awesome! Hands down. Then used titanium backup to restore my apps. Donating money to Gingerbread developers now.

[Q] Help about rooting and other stuff

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer all the questions =)

Baguett said:
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure about this, it probably depends on what they want to release. I don't think there's any kind of guarantee they'll get the same updates, but there's also probably no reason why they wouldn't.
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to unlock the bootloader to root, and unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. Sorry. Someday an exploit might be found for ICS that allows you to root without unlocking.
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
If you root by using some future exploit, you might find that the update you just installed removed root and closed the hole that allowed you to gain it without unlocking the bootloader, and now you're left stuck without root. I'd say just unlock the bootloader now and be done with it. It'll be a pain, but then you don't need to worry about it again.

phazerorg said:
If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM? Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.

Baguett said:
ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but the updates will probably unroot you. You should be able to just re-root after. If using CWM you can probably flash superuser right after flashing the update and not lose root at all. This is what I always did with my Nexus One when I still had the rooted stock ROM.
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the ROM comes as images (like the Google factory images) you can flash with fastboot. The Google ones come with a script that uses fastboot to do it for you.
Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I meant installing updates here... you don't usually need to wipe if you are installing updates to your current ROM, such as OTA updates to the stock ROM. You need to wipe if you're changing ROMs. It's probably no different than your Desire.

[Q] 14.4.A.0.108 Update... Already rooted

Alright, I know there's a few similar threads but they're not exactly what I'm looking for.
My Z1C is on 14.3.A.0.757 and I've just got a notification for the 14.4.A.0.108 update. Is there any way I can maintain root whilst updating just to fix the camera issue and other bugs?
I don't want to do anything that will lose my data, such as reflashing the entire firmware and what not. I'm trying to keep on a Sony ROM for stability etc.
I'm also on a locked bootloader if that's relevant running dual recovery
Could stuff like this be done through flashable zips through recovery or any other way? I'd rather post this where it'll be seen but for some reason I don't have permission.
Thanks in advance

Install the update and re-root.

Iruwen said:
Install the update and re-root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish it was that easy. The update won't install either OTA or via the companion. Through the companion it shuts the phone down then the companion fails to update. OTA it just fails and wants to redownload

martin091 said:
I wish it was that easy. The update won't install either OTA or via the companion. Through the companion it shuts the phone down then the companion fails to update. OTA it just fails and wants to redownload
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may need to unroot first to install the OTA sometimes then root it again. To be honest, if you don't want to do anything then it is strongly recommended to not up to .108 from .757 because there are dozen of guys who have many problem(like battery draining and camera go crazy) after updated without factory reset. The system settings in 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 should have many different places and will easily mess up the OS without factory reset.
Or if you real need 4.4.4 then use Titanium Backup or Helium to backup all apps and apps data first. Besure to also do a full rom backup in recovery if you have install custom recovery.

TheEndHK said:
You may need to unroot first to install the OTA sometimes then root it again. To be honest, if you don't want to do anything then it is strongly recommended to not up to .108 from .757 because there are dozen of guys who have many problem(like battery draining and camera go crazy) after updated without factory reset. The system settings in 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 should have many different places and will easily mess up the OS without factory reset.
Or if you real need 4.4.4 then use Titanium Backup or Helium to backup all apps and apps data first. Besure to also do a full rom backup in recovery if you have install custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But surely if you're updating OTA or via companion, it doesn't force a factory reset so you're not losing data. Therefore it shouldn't make a difference whether you factory reset or not? Does anyone know if EasyRoot works with 4.4.4? I'll do some research after this reply on unrooting and the possibility of rooting .108
I just don't fancy losing my xposed modules, it'll be a ball ache to set it all up to my requirements again lol

martin091 said:
But surely if you're updating OTA or via companion, it doesn't force a factory reset so you're not losing data. Therefore it shouldn't make a difference whether you factory reset or not? Does anyone know if EasyRoot works with 4.4.4? I'll do some research after this reply on unrooting and the possibility of rooting .108
I just don't fancy losing my xposed modules, it'll be a ball ache to set it all up to my requirements again lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OTA won't factory reset but it is dirty flashing. Like I said it, it is very easy to cause problem in 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 and you have a high chance will need to do factory reset at the end.
We are all using EasyRoot to root .108

EasyRoot works with 4.4.4. Titanium Backup reliably backups and restores Xposed modules including all their settings, I did that just yesterday.

Awesome. That's pretty much all the information I needed then.
Cheers guys
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app

I just updated my Z1C to 4.4.4 via the ota update app and i have kept root. I thought i would need to root again??

kxf41 said:
I just updated my Z1C to 4.4.4 via the ota update app and i have kept root. I thought i would need to root again??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It wouldn't let me, even on standard sony firmware. I've had to backup, flash another sony .ftf, upgrade that all the way up to .108 then root and install dual recovery again. and i still lost all my data like pictures

martin091 said:
It wouldn't let me, even on standard sony firmware. I've had to backup, flash another sony .ftf, upgrade that all the way up to .108 then root and install dual recovery again. and i still lost all my data like pictures
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone

kxf41 said:
Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries pal. The .ftf flash didn't wipe, flashtool gives you the option to wipe the data/cache etc so I did it. For some reason I thought titanium backup had grabbed all my personal data like pictures, but it didn't. I'm sure it used to back in the day... And my sony companion doesn't want to restore backups.
It was full of crap anyway, mainly meme's and stuff off 4chan. Good riddance :good:

kxf41 said:
Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unchecked the clean data option in flashtool will not wipe sdcard files and so the OS settings and apps.

ota update rooted d855

hi, I got ota update today and my g3 is rooted.
I tried updating rooted and it failed, so I checked online to find a solution and I tried to do the "restore upgrade errors" from lg pc suite and it didnt find problems to fix.
so I tried "full unroot" from superSU so now I dont have root and update is failing from phone with 0x1117008 error and doesnt work from pc suite.
how can I do the update? (prefer without backup everything and then wipe...)

Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....

chainsuk said:
Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's what I did.
it says "No upgrade items to fix"

Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..

chainsuk said:
Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore

nupity said:
yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.

divvykev said:
Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?

I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!

epidenimus said:
I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?

nupity said:
I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?

epidenimus said:
I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, if it can not be rooted at this moment but will be it's fine too

There is never a guarantee that it will be and it may take months. Many times the update is just to fix the exploit that allowed you to root! What I think that you are missing is that you should never accept an OTA if you are looking to run rooted stock. Rooting is something that is typically done ONCE. And once you do, it is advisable to never accept an OTA again.
If you want to run a newer version of stock and have it be rooted, you flash a pre-rooted version via your custom recovery or flash SuperSU via your custom recovery.
Accepting an OTA with a custom recovery is usually disastrous, too.

nupity said:
so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards

tallman43 said:
Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday

nupity said:
ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends which one your after newest is 20p..
EDIT LOOK HERE >> http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=41 <<