[Q] 14.4.A.0.108 Update... Already rooted - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright, I know there's a few similar threads but they're not exactly what I'm looking for.
My Z1C is on 14.3.A.0.757 and I've just got a notification for the 14.4.A.0.108 update. Is there any way I can maintain root whilst updating just to fix the camera issue and other bugs?
I don't want to do anything that will lose my data, such as reflashing the entire firmware and what not. I'm trying to keep on a Sony ROM for stability etc.
I'm also on a locked bootloader if that's relevant running dual recovery
Could stuff like this be done through flashable zips through recovery or any other way? I'd rather post this where it'll be seen but for some reason I don't have permission.
Thanks in advance

Install the update and re-root.

Iruwen said:
Install the update and re-root.
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I wish it was that easy. The update won't install either OTA or via the companion. Through the companion it shuts the phone down then the companion fails to update. OTA it just fails and wants to redownload

martin091 said:
I wish it was that easy. The update won't install either OTA or via the companion. Through the companion it shuts the phone down then the companion fails to update. OTA it just fails and wants to redownload
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You may need to unroot first to install the OTA sometimes then root it again. To be honest, if you don't want to do anything then it is strongly recommended to not up to .108 from .757 because there are dozen of guys who have many problem(like battery draining and camera go crazy) after updated without factory reset. The system settings in 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 should have many different places and will easily mess up the OS without factory reset.
Or if you real need 4.4.4 then use Titanium Backup or Helium to backup all apps and apps data first. Besure to also do a full rom backup in recovery if you have install custom recovery.

TheEndHK said:
You may need to unroot first to install the OTA sometimes then root it again. To be honest, if you don't want to do anything then it is strongly recommended to not up to .108 from .757 because there are dozen of guys who have many problem(like battery draining and camera go crazy) after updated without factory reset. The system settings in 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 should have many different places and will easily mess up the OS without factory reset.
Or if you real need 4.4.4 then use Titanium Backup or Helium to backup all apps and apps data first. Besure to also do a full rom backup in recovery if you have install custom recovery.
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But surely if you're updating OTA or via companion, it doesn't force a factory reset so you're not losing data. Therefore it shouldn't make a difference whether you factory reset or not? Does anyone know if EasyRoot works with 4.4.4? I'll do some research after this reply on unrooting and the possibility of rooting .108
I just don't fancy losing my xposed modules, it'll be a ball ache to set it all up to my requirements again lol

martin091 said:
But surely if you're updating OTA or via companion, it doesn't force a factory reset so you're not losing data. Therefore it shouldn't make a difference whether you factory reset or not? Does anyone know if EasyRoot works with 4.4.4? I'll do some research after this reply on unrooting and the possibility of rooting .108
I just don't fancy losing my xposed modules, it'll be a ball ache to set it all up to my requirements again lol
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OTA won't factory reset but it is dirty flashing. Like I said it, it is very easy to cause problem in 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 and you have a high chance will need to do factory reset at the end.
We are all using EasyRoot to root .108

EasyRoot works with 4.4.4. Titanium Backup reliably backups and restores Xposed modules including all their settings, I did that just yesterday.

Awesome. That's pretty much all the information I needed then.
Cheers guys
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I just updated my Z1C to 4.4.4 via the ota update app and i have kept root. I thought i would need to root again??

kxf41 said:
I just updated my Z1C to 4.4.4 via the ota update app and i have kept root. I thought i would need to root again??
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It wouldn't let me, even on standard sony firmware. I've had to backup, flash another sony .ftf, upgrade that all the way up to .108 then root and install dual recovery again. and i still lost all my data like pictures

martin091 said:
It wouldn't let me, even on standard sony firmware. I've had to backup, flash another sony .ftf, upgrade that all the way up to .108 then root and install dual recovery again. and i still lost all my data like pictures
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Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone

kxf41 said:
Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone
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No worries pal. The .ftf flash didn't wipe, flashtool gives you the option to wipe the data/cache etc so I did it. For some reason I thought titanium backup had grabbed all my personal data like pictures, but it didn't. I'm sure it used to back in the day... And my sony companion doesn't want to restore backups.
It was full of crap anyway, mainly meme's and stuff off 4chan. Good riddance :good:

kxf41 said:
Sorry to hear that mate, i wasn't aware flashing an .ftf wiped the sd card on the Z1C. Only had it 2 days i've just upgraded from the T and i don't recall losing pics when i flashed a .ftf onto that phone
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Unchecked the clean data option in flashtool will not wipe sdcard files and so the OS settings and apps.

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[Q] FW .431 upgrade to .587 and keeping root

My phone info:
Model no: LT18i (rooted with CWM installed but with locked boot-loader)
Android v: 4.0.4
Baseband: 2.6.32.9-Perf [email protected] #1
Version: 4.1.B.0.431
I wonder if there's a way to upgrade to the new version .587 without loosing root. From what I understand I will loose root if I update with Pc companion.
In OTA it says PC Companion is required and OTA won't work.
Is there a way to flash some file in CWM or flash-tool even though my bootloader is locked?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653188
@ExperienceD:
Thanks but I still don't know if my root will be gone or not. The only guide for firmware change was with PC Companion or SEUS what I could find, which I believe removes root. It's so much job to root it again.
Squiver said:
@ExperienceD:
Thanks but I still don't know if my root will be gone or not. The only guide for firmware change was with PC Companion or SEUS what I could find, which I believe removes root. It's so much job to root it again.
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do you know why you cant update with OTA?
Its because you have cwm, you must delete cmw recovery and try again with OTA and no if you have rooted 431 and you do the OTA, you dont lose the root
try to install the CWM Recovery and then uninstall maybe that works, but i never tried it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
But mate 1 advice, search before posting !!!
Pandemic said:
do you know why you cant update with OTA?
Its because you have cwm, you must delete cmw recovery and try again with OTA and no if you have rooted 431 and you do the OTA, you dont lose the root
try to install the CWM Recovery and then uninstall maybe that works, but i never tried it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
But mate 1 advice, search before posting !!!
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That was indeed real helpful! :good: Now I see, so thanks a lot! But don't think I havn't searched for answers for hours.
Good though that I wrote about having CWM installed, since I almost missed that particular detail.
I'm not quite sure about one thing though; the part with installing and then uninstalling. Since I have CWM installed I figure I'd rather try to uninstall it first then upgrade with OTA and then reinstall it once again. (hope that's what you ment.)
Uninstalling X-parts won't be a problem but I've always thought that X-parts worked similar to "Busy-Box Installer" which can be uninstalled without loosing the "Busy-Box"-installation. But I'll try uninstalling "X-parts" first then look for uninstallation-script in the very CWM-menu if CWM still remains.
I have choosen "Survival-mode" in SuperSU to make the root survive the OTA (didn't think it would "survive" otherwise)
I've realised that the greatest challange is to uninstall CWM. Uninstalling X-parts didn't change a thing unfortunately and there's nothing from within CWM either.
I've almost given up the idea of keeping root, it seems almost impossible! But still I believe there has to be a way to uninstall CWM without wiping everything.
Squiver said:
I've almost given up the idea of keeping root, it seems almost impossible!
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Back up with Titanium Backup or similar and just start from scratch.
XperienceD said:
Back up with Titanium Backup or similar and just start from scratch.
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I guess there's nothing else to do; I have found that the only known way to get rid of CWM is to install stock recovery and even if I managed to uninstall it all removed system-apps could be an obstacle for OTA to work so I would have to reinstall all systemapps I have removed earlier.

Verizon LG G Pad 8.3 system update

I rooted this tablet last week (just rooted, I left it stock) and this morning I notice there is a system update waiting to be installed. I am reading Lollipop is starting to roll out in Asia somewhere now but I am in the US lol. I thought it wasn't possible to get OTA updates once you root? If I allow this to update will I get unrooted, would it even work?
I foolishly allowed it to update after checking in Supersu to not allow the root to be lost and now I keep booting directly into TWRP lol. How do I wipe this tablet from TWRP so that it is fully stock again (NO ROOT)? I see a factory reset option in TWRP do I need to include all the partitions in the advanced wipe or is just the normal wipe method enough? Or will this not work at all? I already tried to restore the phone using TWRP to my backup and that didn't seem to work.
Anthony-m said:
I rooted this tablet last week (just rooted, I left it stock) and this morning I notice there is a system update waiting to be installed. I am reading Lollipop is starting to roll out in Asia somewhere now but I am in the US lol. I thought it wasn't possible to get OTA updates once you root? If I allow this to update will I get unrooted, would it even work? .
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Simply rooting a device doesn't keep it from TRYing to update via OTA. Rooting can prevent an OTA from succeeding, plus can hard or soft brick if you try to take an OTA, although usually only if you've gone beyond just rooting by installing a custom recovery or changing the contents of any partition besides Data by, fire example, downgrading your bootloader (aboot.img) or modem, running a custom kernel, debloating system apps, etc.
There are at least three variants of the G Pad 8.3. I have the VK810.4G, which do you have?
I know on the VK810.4G, Verizon just released a very, very minor update from LG build #23A to 24A. Still KitKat.
I foolishly allowed it to update after checking in Supersu to not allow the root to be lost and now I keep booting directly into TWRP lol.
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There's the main problem, you had a custom recovery installed. OTAs are applied with the stock recovery, that's why it (probably soft) bricked it.
How do I wipe this tablet from TWRP so that it is fully stock again (NO ROOT)? I see a factory reset option in TWRP do I need to include all the partitions in the advanced wipe or is just the normal wipe method enough? Or will this not work at all? I already tried to restore the phone using TWRP to my backup and that didn't seem to work.
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You might not be able to fix it from TWRP. You could try @autoprime 's fix recovery zip available the same page his flash2 scripts are. You'll have to Google:
autoprime flash2
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Otherwise, you'll have to restore to 100% stock unrooted and start from scratch. Two methods.
One is using LG's official Mobile Tool, which will download the latest official ROM in KDZ format (takes 20+ minutes to download) and flash it with your tablet in Download mode (probably with the tablet off, hold both up and down volume buttons in and while holding them, turn the tablet on.
I've got to go do something so hopefully someone else will help further or I can get back to you later, dont know when though.
Good luck!
Sent from my VK810 4G
I did the TWRP terminal commands from the thread listed below and it got me right out of that jam...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/help/vk810-download-mode-boot-loop-t2991512
OK now that I am up and running fine the system update message keeps popping up. This time I KNOW not to try and upgrade while rooted. Is there any way I can stop the tablet from constantly giving me the upgrade message? Can I do anything from TWRP to stop this?
Anthony-m said:
... This time I KNOW not to try and upgrade while rooted. Is there any way I can stop the tablet from constantly giving me the upgrade message? Can I do anything from TWRP to stop this?
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Don't install TWRP. I was rooted (w/ stock recovery) with 23A, and the OTA update worked fine (still rooted).
DeanGibson said:
Don't install TWRP. I was rooted (w/ stock recovery) with 23A, and the OTA update worked fine (still rooted).
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TWRP is already installed..
Can I uninstall TWRP, keep root , do the update and then reinstall TWRP? If so how? Is there any other way around this issue, any way of not having the tablet continue to ask me to upgrade? Thanks BTW...
Anthony-m said:
TWRP is already installed..
Can I uninstall TWRP, keep root , do the update and then reinstall TWRP? If so how? Is there any other way around this issue, any way of not having the tablet continue to ask me to upgrade? Thanks BTW...
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Yes, you can do that, but I don't know the steps. Others here do.
Why do you want TWRP? I thought the usual reason was to install custom ROMs (in which case you won't receive any OTA updates). If you just want to root, it's an unnecessary complication (as you have discovered).
DeanGibson said:
Yes, you can do that, but I don't know the steps. Others here do.
Why do you want TWRP? I thought the usual reason was to install custom ROMs (in which case you won't receive any OTA updates). If you just want to root, it's an unnecessary complication (as you have discovered).
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Thanks Dean, and yes I do agree with you about it being a complication. I was always under the assumption if I rooted a phone that I needed to also use some sort of recovery god forbid I had an issue with the phone not booting up or something so I could possibly fix the issue, make a backup/install a backup etc. Maybe I will ****can it if someone will tell me how to do so without losing my data or root.
Anthony-m said:
Thanks Dean, and yes I do agree with you about it being a complication. I was always under the assumption if I rooted a phone that I needed to also use some sort of recovery god forbid I had an issue with the phone not booting up or something so I could possibly fix the issue, make a backup/install a backup etc. Maybe I will ****can it if someone will tell me how to do so without losing my data or root.
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FYI I just froze the update using Titanium backup pro and my problem is solved for now..

ota update rooted d855

hi, I got ota update today and my g3 is rooted.
I tried updating rooted and it failed, so I checked online to find a solution and I tried to do the "restore upgrade errors" from lg pc suite and it didnt find problems to fix.
so I tried "full unroot" from superSU so now I dont have root and update is failing from phone with 0x1117008 error and doesnt work from pc suite.
how can I do the update? (prefer without backup everything and then wipe...)
Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....
chainsuk said:
Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....
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that's what I did.
it says "No upgrade items to fix"
Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..
chainsuk said:
Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..
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yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore
nupity said:
yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore
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Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.
divvykev said:
Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.
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so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?
I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!
epidenimus said:
I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!
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I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?
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I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?
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I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?
epidenimus said:
I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?
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yes, if it can not be rooted at this moment but will be it's fine too
There is never a guarantee that it will be and it may take months. Many times the update is just to fix the exploit that allowed you to root! What I think that you are missing is that you should never accept an OTA if you are looking to run rooted stock. Rooting is something that is typically done ONCE. And once you do, it is advisable to never accept an OTA again.
If you want to run a newer version of stock and have it be rooted, you flash a pre-rooted version via your custom recovery or flash SuperSU via your custom recovery.
Accepting an OTA with a custom recovery is usually disastrous, too.
nupity said:
so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?
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Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards
tallman43 said:
Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards
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ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday
nupity said:
ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday
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Depends which one your after newest is 20p..
EDIT LOOK HERE >> http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=41 <<

Flashed faulty [System] from recovery

What happened:
1. Used TWRP to flash an earlier System backup
2. Boots but two system apps force close and phone reboots
3. This goes on indefinitely
4. Can no longer go to either recovery
I'm thinking I should use FlashTool and flash a default System for 14.5.A.0.270 but I can't seem to find any firmware image for it. Does anybody have this/better idea to get me out of the boot loop?
Edit: found the file, will report back.
another complication: I can't go into flashmode
ctap001 said:
another complication: I can't go into flashmode
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Bl locked or unlocked?
levone1 said:
Bl locked or unlocked?
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locked. Am I SOTL?
ctap001 said:
locked. Am I SOTL?
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Probably not. Are you wanting to save data, etc?
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Probably not. Are you wanting to save data, etc?
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If possible, yes. My last complete backup was on September. I'm still waiting for the firmware download to finish, however if I that doesn't work (won't allow me to flash) I am completely OK with wiping everything.
ctap001 said:
If possible, yes. My last complete backup was on September. I'm still waiting for the firmware download to finish, however if I that doesn't work (won't allow me to flash) I am completely OK with wiping everything.
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I wasn't sure from the first post. Does the phone stay on if you don't do anything or does it automatically reboot? I was thinking a good first try might be NUT dual recovery installer, but won't work if phone won't stay on. Check back after your flash attempt - note that you will likely wipe all of your data if flashing with FT.
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I wasn't sure from the first post. Does the phone stay on if you don't do anything or does it automatically reboot? I was thinking a good first try might be NUT dual recovery installer, but won't work if phone won't stay on. Check back after your flash attempt - note that you will likely wipe all of your data if flashing with FT.
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It won't stay on. It will crash then reboot.
Can't proceed with flashtool because I am having trouble installing the drivers (on w10)
ctap001 said:
It won't stay on. It will crash then reboot.
Can't proceed with flashtool because I am having trouble installing the drivers (on w10)
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If you can't boot, you might be able to save data through adb. If you give up on saving data, either Emma or PC Companion can repair phone if you can't get FT to work. Since they're both official Sony programs, they may be easier to get working with Win10.
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If you can't boot, you might be able to save data through adb. If you give up on saving data, either Emma or PC Companion can repair phone if you can't get FT to work. Since they're both official Sony programs, they may be easier to get working with Win10.
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I have flashed System from an unrooted FTF. Still can't access recovery though
ctap001 said:
I have flashed System from an unrooted FTF. Still can't access recovery though
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Which fw did you flash? If it's 5.1, (368 at least, not sure about 216), I've read that Kingroot method is working now. Look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/root-14-6-0-368-via-kingroot-t3242735 . If 5.0, there is a root tool that will work. Once rooted, flash NUT's installer for recovery.
levone1 said:
Which fw did you flash? If it's 5.1, (368 at least, not sure about 216), I've read that Kingroot method is working now. Look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/root-14-6-0-368-via-kingroot-t3242735 . If 5.0, there is a root tool that will work. Once rooted, flash NUT's installer for recovery.
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>5.1
I tried flashing the early pre-rooted 5.1s and they gave me problems with NFC so I reverted to 5.0.1
Looking for the 5.0 root tool right now.
edit: kingroot doesn't work
ctap001 said:
>5.1
I tried flashing the early pre-rooted 5.1s and they gave me problems with NFC so I reverted to 5.0.1
Looking for the 5.0 root tool right now.
edit: kingroot doesn't work
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Haven't tried it myself, but it seems like they've got it working. I noticed in the thread that there seems to be different instructions for 368 and 216....
levone1 said:
Haven't tried it myself, but it seems like they've got it working. I noticed in the thread that there seems to be different instructions for 368 and 216....
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I got everything back to 270 now. Currently at the optimizing apps part. This all began because I upgraded SD cards and while everything was carried over through a plain copy-paste, my Walkman playlists and favorites didn't make it. I somehow equated the System portion as a possible fix.
Anyway are you on 5.1? Does NFC unlock works? Thanks for pointing me at the right direction.
ctap001 said:
I got everything back to 270 now. Currently at the optimizing apps part. This all began because I upgraded SD cards and while everything was carried over through a plain copy-paste, my Walkman playlists and favorites didn't make it. I somehow equated the System portion as a possible fix.
Anyway are you on 5.1? Does NFC unlock works? Thanks for pointing me at the right direction.
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Haven't had any problems with 5.1. I flashed stock .216 few a week ago, and have since rooted, modded, etc., and everything good. Your problems were probably related to PRF. I've read the same from others
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Haven't had any problems with 5.1. I flashed stock .216 few a week ago, and have since rooted, modded, etc., and everything good. Your problems were probably related to PRF. I've read the same from others
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> .216
The latest I tried was .380
King root
I had a similar problem last night. Installed stock firmware off flashtool then loaded it up and King Root worked perfectly. Having trouble getting a recovery on the phone now.
wwwjunkboywww said:
I had a similar problem last night. Installed stock firmware off flashtool then loaded it up and King Root worked perfectly. Having trouble getting a recovery on the phone now.
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Use 'installer' option from Z1c downloads on NUT's download page. It's never failed for me. Just watch phone screen and grant 'OK' for adb access and for root. Besides that, if you have unlocked bl, use fastboot or Rashr.
Thanks
levone1 said:
Use 'installer' option from Z1c downloads on NUT's download page. It's never failed for me. Just watch phone screen and grant 'OK' for adb access and for root. Besides that, if you have unlocked bl, use fastboot or Rashr.
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Yeah i had tried that. The BAT right? I ended up flashing multi twrp and then using that to get NUT's, he's made a sweet recovery.

Unrooting help URGENT

Hi I want to unroot my G3 so I can get marshmallow without the fuss and stuff. The thing is flashing a stock lollipop will delete my data, which to me is very important. So I really have no idea of how to backup fully(except rom) other than taking a nandroid. Are there any other ways of unrooting which will undo my mods and stuff, keeping in mind I'm on a stock rom which is rooted, or any simple way to do a backup and restore from a rooted rom to a stock rom.
AryG15 said:
Hi I want to unroot my G3 so I can get marshmallow without the fuss and stuff. The thing is flashing a stock lollipop will delete my data, which to me is very important. So I really have no idea of how to backup fully(except rom) other than taking a nandroid. Are there any other ways of unrooting which will undo my mods and stuff, keeping in mind I'm on a stock rom which is rooted, or any simple way to do a backup and restore from a rooted rom to a stock rom.
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If I'm not wrong, when you flash the .KDZ it will un-root automatically your device. But just download Titanium Backup and backup all your apps, then install the bumped version of the MM (if you don't have TWRP installed, it is very easy to do it in LL).
I don't remember if Titanium can install all your apps back with theirs respectives datas without root, but you can root the device again if you install the .zip via the custom recovery. You can do it as well if you flash the KDZ, but as I have installed the bumped Marshmallow, I'll let someone else explain it to you.
Of course, if you still want to unroot, as you are in lollipop you probably used Kingroot or some app like that. Just open the app and try to find an option to unroot, most of them have it right when you open it.
Sorry for any typo or broken english, I'm in kind of a hurry
Perrotti said:
If I'm not wrong, when you flash the .KDZ it will un-root automatically your device. But just download Titanium Backup and backup all your apps, then install the bumped version of the MM (if you don't have TWRP installed, it is very easy to do it in LL).
I don't remember if Titanium can install all your apps back with theirs respectives datas without root, but you can root the device again if you install the .zip via the custom recovery. You can do it as well if you flash the KDZ, but as I have installed the bumped Marshmallow, I'll let someone else explain it to you.
Of course, if you still want to unroot, as you are in lollipop you probably used Kingroot or some app like that. Just open the app and try to find an option to unroot, most of them have it right when you open it.
Sorry for any typo or broken english, I'm in kind of a hurry
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When I said marshmallow I meant LG marshmallow which has begun being released in Poland, not Google stock.
AryG15 said:
When I said marshmallow I meant LG marshmallow which has begun being released in Poland, not Google stock.
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And so do I. There is a bumped version of the LG MM, it is right on the Android Development first page, just download and flash it if you don't want to lose your custom recovery with the KDZ
Perrotti said:
And so do I. There is a bumped version of the LG MM, it is right on the Android Development first page, just download and flash it if you don't want to lose your custom recovery with the KDZ
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Oh right ok. Do you have any way of restoring data if I flash back to a lollipop rom with stock recovery?
AryG15 said:
Oh right ok. Do you have any way of restoring data if I flash back to a lollipop rom with stock recovery?
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You can always root it again and restore your data using Titanium =P. The recovery is only needed to flash custom roms ou .zip files, like Viper4Android (although you can download the non-official one from Play Store), mods and etc.
I know there are some apps that don't need neither root nor custom recoverys, but I haven't used any of them, so I will let someone with more experience in that area explain it to you.
Just one more thing: I saw that there are ways of downgrading back to lollipop if you flash the official KDZ, but they're a little bit tricky, so I still recommend you to flash the .zip through TWRP (upgrade it to the 2.8.7.1 version if you haven't done it already). If you need more help, or if I wasn't clear enough, just mention or quote me and I'll se if I can help
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You can always root it again and restore your data using Titanium =P. The recovery is only needed to flash custom roms ou .zip files, like Viper4Android (although you can download the non-official one from Play Store), mods and etc.
I know there are some apps that don't need neither root nor custom recoverys, but I haven't used any of them, so I will let someone with more experience in that area explain it to you.
Just one more thing: I saw that there are ways of downgrading back to lollipop if you flash the official KDZ, but they're a little bit tricky, so I still recommend you to flash the .zip through TWRP (upgrade it to the 2.8.7.1 version if you haven't done it already). If you need more help, or if I wasn't clear enough, just mention or quote me and I'll se if I can help
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Honestly all I really want is to get rid of root on my phone. Would SuperSU's unroot work so I can get to a state where I can use OTAs again?
AryG15 said:
Honestly all I really want is to get rid of root on my phone. Would SuperSU's unroot work so I can get to a state where I can use OTAs again?
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There are 2 ways to get stock marshmallow running on d855s now:
1. Flash via TWRP 2.8.7.0 by following instructions from here.
2. Downloading KDZ file from here and flashing using LG Flash Tool 2014 or LGUP tool.
I would recommend that you use method 1 since you are rooted. You can use TiBackup to backup your apps+data and after flashing you will still have root and you can restore apps+data using TiBackup.
Also, method 1 is better than method 2 because if you use method 2, you will lock your bootloader and lose root. You MAY not be able to downgrade to Lollipop, and I don't think there's a reliable way to root stock marshmallow just yet.
tietganFTW said:
There are 2 ways to get stock marshmallow running on d855s now:
1. Flash via TWRP 2.8.7.0 by following instructions from here.
2. Downloading KDZ file from here and flashing using LG Flash Tool 2014 or LGUP tool.
I would recommend that you use method 1 since you are rooted. You can use TiBackup to backup your apps+data and after flashing you will still have root and you can restore apps+data using TiBackup.
Also, method 1 is better than method 2 because if you use method 2, you will lock your bootloader and lose root. You MAY not be able to downgrade to Lollipop, and I don't think there's a reliable way to root stock marshmallow just yet.
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I think you're misunderstanding me, I'd like to go back to an unrooted version of lollipop and eventually get the official marshmallow update. I don't want to get involved in flashing and stuff, it's just time consuming. So to sum it up - go to unrooted lollipop with all my data(no root mods) and wait for official update.
AryG15 said:
I think you're misunderstanding me, I'd like to go back to an unrooted version of lollipop and eventually get the official marshmallow update. I don't want to get involved in flashing and stuff, it's just time consuming. So to sum it up - go to unrooted lollipop with all my data(no root mods) and wait for official update.
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i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
tietganFTW said:
i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
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Doesn't helium just do rooted devices? (I had that problem on Xperia devices)
Plus any recommendations for apps to backup everything else?
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i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
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He wants to unroot the phone and keep all his data, so the only way he could flash the LL kdz and keep his apps would be rooting again and installing the backup using Titanium.
@OP, what root metod did you use? Helium propably will work, but I haven't used it yet. Try opening your SuperSU app and selecting the option to unroot in the settings. Most of 'em have it.
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He wants to unroot the phone and keep all his data, so the only way he could flash the LL kdz and keep his apps would be rooting again and installing the backup using Titanium.
@OP, what root metod did you use? Helium propably will work, but I haven't used it yet. Try opening your SuperSU app and selecting the option to unroot in the settings. Most of 'em have it.
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I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197? to root. I'd use the unroot on my SuperSU but I'm not sure if it'd get me to a state where I can use OTA again. Would I unroot automatically if I updated my phone via a PC?
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I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197? to root. I'd use the unroot on my SuperSU but I'm not sure if it'd get me to a state where I can use OTA again. Would I unroot automatically if I updated my phone via a PC?
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If you flash the KDZ using the CSE_Flash option, yes, it will unroot the phone. If you just dirty flash it, I don't know, maybe.
If you unroot by using the option in SuperSU, you'll be able to update using OTA, you will only have some issues (aka bootloops) if you have a custom recovery installed. If you have, don't EVER try to install ANY OTA.
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If you flash the KDZ using the CSE_Flash option, yes, it will unroot the phone. If you just dirty flash it, I don't know, maybe.
If you unroot by using the option in SuperSU, you'll be able to update using OTA, you will only have some issues (aka bootloops) if you have a custom recovery installed. If you have, don't EVER try to install ANY OTA.
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I used autorec to get twrp(fairly sure I don't have the latest version of twrp either) would I be fine for ota if I use autorec to go back to stock recovery and then unroot via supersu?
AryG15 said:
I used autorec to get twrp(fairly sure I don't have the latest version of twrp either) would I be fine for ota if I use autorec to go back to stock recovery and then unroot via supersu?
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If you manage to install the stock recovery and then unroot, you are good to go!
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Perrotti said:
If you manage to install the stock recovery and then unroot, you are good to go!
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Ok thanks, are there any ways to repair the update via lg pc suite?
AryG15 said:
Ok thanks, are there any ways to repair the update via lg pc suite?
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By repairing, you mean just unroot and install the stock recovery back? I don't think so, the .KDZ file is a full OS. If you flash it you will have your stock recovery and will unroot, but your phone will be factory reseted
Perrotti said:
By repairing, you mean just unroot and install the stock recovery back? I don't think so, the .KDZ file is a full OS. If you flash it you will have your stock recovery and will unroot, but your phone will be factory reseted
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Oh so that's a dead end. Anyways for some reason autorec can't restore stock recovery, are there other ways of doing that?
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Oh so that's a dead end. Anyways for some reason autorec can't restore stock recovery, are there other ways of doing that?
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I don't think there is any option besides restoring the stock recovery. I've seen a way of doing in somewhere in a Brazilian forum, but you would have to have a backup of it, which I don't think you do. Anyway, your best chance is to use titanium backup to backup your data (and move your photos and videos to the sd card), restore the system by flashing it using the flash tool, root it again, restore everything using titanium, and unroot. But I highly recommend you to keep your device the way it is, and update just when there is a deodexed Rom or a custom stock Rom available. After you get used to having root and a custom recovery, there is no turning back.
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