Develop Bugs

[Q] Unrevoked + ROM Manager on Desire

I posted this query in the unrevoked thread, but it's probably better here:
I rooted my 2.1 Telstra branded Desire with unrevoked, so easy. Now, I want to flash Froyo using the original OpenDesire rom.
I also want better A2SD, so I need to partition my SD card. I installed ROM Manager to do the partitioning, but it complains that I don't have Clockwork recovery installed, even though it was installed by unrevoked. What do I do here? Is it okay to have ROM Manager reinstall Clockwork? Will this break anything?

unrEVOked installs the recovery to your recovery partition on the phone. Rom manager installs it on the SD card, 2 totally different things. So it's fine to install it.
I have seen a few posts where people have had bother with running 2 recoveries, so if I were you I'd choose one and stick to it.
I personally used unrEVOked to permanently flash amonra's recovery to the phone. I think it's the best by far. You can do a lot more with it and it's better looking.

socktug said:
unrEVOked installs the recovery to your recovery partition on the phone. Rom manager installs it on the SD card, 2 totally different things. So it's fine to install it.
I have seen a few posts where people have had bother with running 2 recoveries, so if I were you I'd choose one and stick to it.
I personally used unrEVOked to permanently flash amonra's recovery to the phone. I think it's the best by far. You can do a lot more with it and it's better looking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was using amon-ra but went back to clockwork mod cuz it wouldnt let me flash unsigned zip's

Thanks for the replies, guys. All done, flashed and Froyo looks great. And I have RAM free again!!
That was far less painful than I expected it to be. I'm kicking myself for waiting so long, now.

AndroHero said:
i was using amon-ra but went back to clockwork mod cuz it wouldnt let me flash unsigned zip's
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you have "toogle verification" option hehe....

[Q] cant access recovery after root with unrevoked 3.21

Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO

Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?

I wish I knew
PonsAsinorem said:
And for the record, which screen do you have?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED

Grrrr
PonsAsinorem said:
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?

RandomMOJO said:
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.

Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?

RandomMOJO said:
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?

silverxbv2 said:
Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?

RandomMOJO said:
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.

Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.

RandomMOJO said:
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
silverxbv2 said:
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork

So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO

Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460

dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO

[Q] switching from clockwork to amon ra

cans ome one tell me how to do it, i remeber trying a while back and it never worked, i mnight have made a mistake, i cant even find the threads for it, partially because i have a splitting headache and partially because it is so damn hot in my room i need to leave. please and thank you.
p.s. i did search for about 7 minutes, between the tempature and the fact that so much has the words clockwork and amon in it its just to much right now.

The easiest way is probably to download ROM Manager onto your phone. It may ask you to install ClockworkMOD again, but that's fine. Once that's done, scroll to the bottom of ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery' or something like that and that will install Amon_RA 1.8.0 onto your phone. Afterwards, you can remove ROM Manager since that only works with ClockworkMOD.

is there any noticable difference, and how will i know its done correctly i thought i tried this once...

mine says no alt. recovery available

Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0

ICEReaction said:
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im using the rom cm6.1.1 it had it on there already so no. however im going to restore to 6.1 because this rom is constantly rebooting itself and getting stuck in bootloops....****.
but yes ill let u no in a few minutes

i flahsed over to an old sense virus rom, i installed rom manager however it didnt ask to redownload clockwork, and i scrolled down to look at the flash alternative recovery, its still grey but this time it has amon ra 1.8 under it but still grey

[Q] Fresh's 4.0 beta

So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?

richdogg112 said:
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what recovery are you on?

I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?

richdogg112 said:
I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you can, I personally don't use clockwork but I think when running the 2.3 GB beta it might not work correctly with recovery thats not up to date. I use amon ra 2.3 it works for me; are you on clockwork 3.0?

I'm on the most updated one, so yes 3.0, I haven't tried amon ra yet but I've heard a lot of people prefer that over clockwork. I'm in the process of restoring my SL rom so I'll keep you updated. Thank you for the quick responses

No problem, yes I prefer amon ra myself but its the users choice. If you still can't get in recovery I'd say try it on amon ra for the fresh beta then go back to clockwork. Only thing about switching recoveries is that you can't restore backups from one recovery to another!

I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?

richdogg112 said:
I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol well lets just leave it at personal preference. Its said that clockwork has trouble wiping dalvik/cache at times, and other random issues and since my g1 days back in 2008 I've always ran with amon ra. There's other reasons why I will NEVER run clockwork but I think ill keep those to myself lol. Wouldn't want to start drama around here

edit: dirty beat me to it.
richdogg112 said:
I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
clockworkmod can be controlled by rom manager, which is helpful for noobs, and is a bit cleaner, but cant read amend scripting. amend is much easier to write, and more widely known. most flashable zips are written in amend, because it's more flexable and everything. only a few big roms are written in edify. amon-ra can read both amend and edify. so it's much easier for me and other minor/learning developers to write in amend.

I apologize, that's what I meant I was doing. I'm using Rom Manager to flash. I've had my Evo since October and just rooted it about a week ago when I got my Xoom. I'm very noobish still and still learning the programs for rooting.

richdogg112 said:
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.

datajosh said:
You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
*facepalm* I completely forgot about that which is funny because that's one of the first things I did myself lol

I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.

richdogg112 said:
I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hahah if you do it right you will. post a question in the dev section, or without searching first, or jsut a dumb question.... here's what you get. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047664 lol

Lol, I tried a search for it and the only thread that came up was the dev one, since I just joined I couldn't post there and came here. So even if I end up with a bad experience down the road, first impression was a very good one

[Q] Rom manager wont flash recovery

I'm running CM7 with Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5. Im trying to flash the latest radio, so i need to flash back to a Clockworkmod 2.x.
But the thing is Rom manager already says my current recovery is 2.5.0.7. But when i actually reboot into recovery its definitely still 3.0.0.5. I've tried to flash all of the older versions of Clockworkmod available in Rom manager, and it says they flash correctly, and rom manager even reports that my clockworkmod version is the one i tried to flash. But when i reboot into recovery it hasnt changed.
Ive even tried to flash amon ra through rom manager and that did nothing.
I have "erase recovery" checked in settings. I tried to fix permissions. I've rebooted and even wiped data. Ive gone into market and uninstalled the updates to go back to rom manager 3.x but that didnt fix the problem. Ive wiped dalvik cache and that didnt work either.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
If not, does anyone have a link to a clockworkmod 2.x recovery.img so i can just manually flash it through fastboot? ive looked around everywhere but i cant seem to find one.

so i restored a really old backup of cm6 (which has rom manager 3.x), which i didnt even think was possible with CWM 3 and edify scripting, flashed amon ra in rom manager, and once i rebooted into recovery it was actually amon ra. i flashed the radio and all seems well. not sure why CM7 with rom manager 4 wouldnt correctly flash a recovery, but it seems resolved for me at least.

For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.

dougjamal said:
For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whats really the difference between flashing through the bootloader, flashing through rom manager, flashing through fastboot, or flashing through the command line with flash_image?
Obviously rom manager has problems, thats what this whole post is about. But as long as it actually does the flash there shouldnt be difference between the different methods of flashing should there?

You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.

dougjamal said:
You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can i ask why you prefer amon ra over clockwork mod? Does one offer an advantage over the other? Does RA support edify scripting?

I was a faithful ClockworkMod user when I first rooted my device. I had no problems and no intention to switch until around version 3.x.x.x. after that, I started having issues with it not wiping properly so I switched over to amon RA. Although those problems have since been corrected, I have become quite accustomed to amon RA and until it fails me, I will stick with it. Furthermore, there have been times when people's devices have failed to properly boot or wouldn't allow access to recovery until they flashed amon RA. I like its menu layout and how well it works, but that's just me...
posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.