I posted this query in the unrevoked thread, but it's probably better here:
I rooted my 2.1 Telstra branded Desire with unrevoked, so easy. Now, I want to flash Froyo using the original OpenDesire rom.
I also want better A2SD, so I need to partition my SD card. I installed ROM Manager to do the partitioning, but it complains that I don't have Clockwork recovery installed, even though it was installed by unrevoked. What do I do here? Is it okay to have ROM Manager reinstall Clockwork? Will this break anything?
unrEVOked installs the recovery to your recovery partition on the phone. Rom manager installs it on the SD card, 2 totally different things. So it's fine to install it.
I have seen a few posts where people have had bother with running 2 recoveries, so if I were you I'd choose one and stick to it.
I personally used unrEVOked to permanently flash amonra's recovery to the phone. I think it's the best by far. You can do a lot more with it and it's better looking.
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unrEVOked installs the recovery to your recovery partition on the phone. Rom manager installs it on the SD card, 2 totally different things. So it's fine to install it.
I have seen a few posts where people have had bother with running 2 recoveries, so if I were you I'd choose one and stick to it.
I personally used unrEVOked to permanently flash amonra's recovery to the phone. I think it's the best by far. You can do a lot more with it and it's better looking.
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i was using amon-ra but went back to clockwork mod cuz it wouldnt let me flash unsigned zip's
Thanks for the replies, guys. All done, flashed and Froyo looks great. And I have RAM free again!!
That was far less painful than I expected it to be. I'm kicking myself for waiting so long, now.
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i was using amon-ra but went back to clockwork mod cuz it wouldnt let me flash unsigned zip's
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you have "toogle verification" option hehe....
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Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
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Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
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After you have rooted you can delete nearly anything you want, I wouldn't suggest doing it because I doubt you know what to do. But you do have the freedom to..
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
After rooting you can look into upgrading your radio and your wimax and your kernal.
Custom roms are like sneakers, They all have different purpose and size. The most common ones are damagedcontrol and fresh. Do your research and experiment and find your sneaker. You can also just wait til the official stable cm6 comes out. For now I use fresh.
Try oUt some themes and different apps that are for rooted devices only. And there us always something neiw to do with your evo.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I managed to make my way through SimpleRoot. But I am having a heck of a time digging through the forums to figure out what to do next. I feel like kind of an idiot, but I have no idea how to set up my backup/recovery "amon ra" right? And then I'd like to install the rooted 1.47 build and update my radio and wimax. Any direction would be VERY appreciated.
Thanks for the reply. Mind pointing me in the right direction for the radio kernel and wimax?
I'm new to this too. Read up a lot first. Easy root looks to make it pretty easy, but I learned more doing it the hard way. Used the two part method in dev section, by toast I think, with adb, nand unlock and all. Helps to understand the odd file structure, and what different parts do. You have to try things too, and just hope you don't f up. Using cm6 now and its pretty cool. Have fun man.
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Liked he said read. And do a lot of it. Last thing you want is to brick your phone
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I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
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What's wrong with Clockwork's wipe feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734564&highlight=clockwork
Also, as for flashing a recovery, if you install ROM Manager from the market, it will give you an option to flash either Clockwork or Amon RA. It will stay there even if you flash new ROMs later, though there's a quirk where a new ROM Manager install will ask you to flash recovery, but then if one is already there it won't really change it, it just needs to see it to believe it.
Installing new files won't make a difference if you switch ROMs. It wipes your data when you re-flash, so you'll lose it all anyway (unless you back up your apps with Titanium Backup or MyBackup). All you need is a recovery installed - and I actually recommend Clockwork, but only because I use it myself and I have no problems with it - and you can reboot into it, install a new ROM, and start playing. I've never flashed from ROM Manager, even though it gives the option, but I imagine it does the same thing, but runs it automatically after a recovery reboot.
Read the "favorite ROM" thread with the poll attached, lots of good ROM recommendations in there. I'll say it once more: I'm using Fresh 1.0.1 and netarchy's 3.7.3c kernel (Fresh-compatible version). It's so fast and smooth.
If you like your current setup but want to try a new ROM, use ROM Manager (or Clockwork as a recovery reboot) to do a Clockwork backup. That way you can return to your current state if you want to. It's basically a system image that you can restore.
Here's one helpful page to start with.
And have fun.
Back on fresh 0.5.3, clockwork was not doing a great job with the wipe, causing the boot to loop. I believe it wasn't completely wiping the dalik cache.
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Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?
I wish I knew
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And for the record, which screen do you have?
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thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED
Grrrr
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Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.
Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
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Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork
So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
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Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO
I have always used AmonRA but i have now switched to Clockworkmod recovery as i have had issues whilst installing certain roms on AmonRA.
On CWM, there is an option to flash update.zip? What exactly is this for and how does it differ from flash ZIP from SD?
It's just to do with CWM. If you have a file called update.zip on your SD it will flash that. No different really from manually flashing it. Something along those lines.
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I have always used AmonRA but i have now switched to Clockworkmod recovery as i have had issues whilst installing certain roms on AmonRA.
On CWM, there is an option to flash update.zip? What exactly is this for and how does it differ from flash ZIP from SD?
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Have you tried the latest version of Amon_ra's recovery(2.0.1)?
I have never had a problem with it, and I've used with all different kind of roms.
I switched from clockworkmod to Amon_ra's and never looked back.
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Have you tried the latest version of Amon_ra's recovery(2.0.1)?
I have never had a problem with it, and I've used with all different kind of roms.
I switched from clockworkmod to Amon_ra's and never looked back.
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Look in my sig
I flashed Amon_RA earlier this week which ended my like 6 months spree of CWM and tbh, I've never looked back. RA recovery is way better.
Meaple said:
Look in my sig
I flashed Amon_RA earlier this week which ended my like 6 months spree of CWM and tbh, I've never looked back. RA recovery is way better.
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Can you expand on why it's better? I think there are more options for mounting etc.
I read some threads but I'm still unclear! I noticed most people who know what they're about use Ra and I keep wondering why!
I prefer Amon but I could not install leedroid 2.3 or insertcoin, it froze on boot screen.
By changing recovery, it worked straight away.
Everything that is in CWM you get in Amon and more. You get things like ext converter so you can convert ext2 to ext3 and ext3 to ext4. A couple more things too. Tbh, it's only like a 2 second flash anyway so it's not really that hard to look through it.
Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?
okay i used the latest original untouched once yesterday installed perfectly, however after doing a backup it crashed on htc start up loop. i opened recovery and re flashed my backup all worked okay but am now wondering what if something happens when installing a custom rom. what is the best version to use.
thanks
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
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Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
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thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
kuljit55 said:
thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
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ROM Manager is made by ClockworkMod devs. It's an application, a standalone app whereas ClockworkMod is a recovery and this is what you would use to flash the ROM. If you have ClockworkMod as your recovery you flash a new ROM using this procedure:
Do this first to backup your existing ROM in case anything goes wrong.
Then do this to flash your new recovery.
Hopefully everything should go okay.
EDIT: You can leave ROM Manager where it is, it won't affect anything you do in the above procedures and you may find that your new ROM doesn't package it anyway so you won't have it anyway.
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
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for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
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I've got 4.2.0.2 but I can't comment because I've not used it yet but I know I successfully partitioned my SD to ext3 using the version you mention (only because I couldn't get gparted to work).
I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
bortak said:
Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
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He's prolly gonna need it eventually when he decides to try one of those unstable roms out there.
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eventually
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Eventually. OP only wanted CM for now
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated.
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated
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Take your advice and go somewhere else. ROM Manager both sucks and blows and just causes problems. The only "good" use it does have is the ability to download ROM's straight to your phone. Otherwise steer clear.
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You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
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In most cases
gab_hamelin said:
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
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Should do a full wipe, including boot, system etc.
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After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Do not use ROM manager to make backups. Can just cause problems as already stated. Don't be lazy and do it yourself via recovery, now with 4EXT touch it's easier and simpler than ever.
Yes. Go and flash manually. Rom manager is just a middle man that screws up the process. Dont ever use it at least for Desire coz it really doesnt play well with it. Even after you successfully flashed cyanogenmod.
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Use this fine guide?
I used this very fine guide when I wanted to go further than HTC would let me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And it is maintained on XDA, which is nice.