[Q] Rom manager wont flash recovery - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running CM7 with Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5. Im trying to flash the latest radio, so i need to flash back to a Clockworkmod 2.x.
But the thing is Rom manager already says my current recovery is 2.5.0.7. But when i actually reboot into recovery its definitely still 3.0.0.5. I've tried to flash all of the older versions of Clockworkmod available in Rom manager, and it says they flash correctly, and rom manager even reports that my clockworkmod version is the one i tried to flash. But when i reboot into recovery it hasnt changed.
Ive even tried to flash amon ra through rom manager and that did nothing.
I have "erase recovery" checked in settings. I tried to fix permissions. I've rebooted and even wiped data. Ive gone into market and uninstalled the updates to go back to rom manager 3.x but that didnt fix the problem. Ive wiped dalvik cache and that didnt work either.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
If not, does anyone have a link to a clockworkmod 2.x recovery.img so i can just manually flash it through fastboot? ive looked around everywhere but i cant seem to find one.

so i restored a really old backup of cm6 (which has rom manager 3.x), which i didnt even think was possible with CWM 3 and edify scripting, flashed amon ra in rom manager, and once i rebooted into recovery it was actually amon ra. i flashed the radio and all seems well. not sure why CM7 with rom manager 4 wouldnt correctly flash a recovery, but it seems resolved for me at least.

For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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dougjamal said:
For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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whats really the difference between flashing through the bootloader, flashing through rom manager, flashing through fastboot, or flashing through the command line with flash_image?
Obviously rom manager has problems, thats what this whole post is about. But as long as it actually does the flash there shouldnt be difference between the different methods of flashing should there?

You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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dougjamal said:
You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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Can i ask why you prefer amon ra over clockwork mod? Does one offer an advantage over the other? Does RA support edify scripting?

I was a faithful ClockworkMod user when I first rooted my device. I had no problems and no intention to switch until around version 3.x.x.x. after that, I started having issues with it not wiping properly so I switched over to amon RA. Although those problems have since been corrected, I have become quite accustomed to amon RA and until it fails me, I will stick with it. Furthermore, there have been times when people's devices have failed to properly boot or wouldn't allow access to recovery until they flashed amon RA. I like its menu layout and how well it works, but that's just me...
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[Q] switching from clockwork to amon ra

cans ome one tell me how to do it, i remeber trying a while back and it never worked, i mnight have made a mistake, i cant even find the threads for it, partially because i have a splitting headache and partially because it is so damn hot in my room i need to leave. please and thank you.
p.s. i did search for about 7 minutes, between the tempature and the fact that so much has the words clockwork and amon in it its just to much right now.
The easiest way is probably to download ROM Manager onto your phone. It may ask you to install ClockworkMOD again, but that's fine. Once that's done, scroll to the bottom of ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery' or something like that and that will install Amon_RA 1.8.0 onto your phone. Afterwards, you can remove ROM Manager since that only works with ClockworkMOD.
is there any noticable difference, and how will i know its done correctly i thought i tried this once...
mine says no alt. recovery available
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
ICEReaction said:
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
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im using the rom cm6.1.1 it had it on there already so no. however im going to restore to 6.1 because this rom is constantly rebooting itself and getting stuck in bootloops....****.
but yes ill let u no in a few minutes
i flahsed over to an old sense virus rom, i installed rom manager however it didnt ask to redownload clockwork, and i scrolled down to look at the flash alternative recovery, its still grey but this time it has amon ra 1.8 under it but still grey

Clockworkmod recovery

I have always used AmonRA but i have now switched to Clockworkmod recovery as i have had issues whilst installing certain roms on AmonRA.
On CWM, there is an option to flash update.zip? What exactly is this for and how does it differ from flash ZIP from SD?
It's just to do with CWM. If you have a file called update.zip on your SD it will flash that. No different really from manually flashing it. Something along those lines.
325i. said:
I have always used AmonRA but i have now switched to Clockworkmod recovery as i have had issues whilst installing certain roms on AmonRA.
On CWM, there is an option to flash update.zip? What exactly is this for and how does it differ from flash ZIP from SD?
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Have you tried the latest version of Amon_ra's recovery(2.0.1)?
I have never had a problem with it, and I've used with all different kind of roms.
I switched from clockworkmod to Amon_ra's and never looked back.
mikeraul said:
Have you tried the latest version of Amon_ra's recovery(2.0.1)?
I have never had a problem with it, and I've used with all different kind of roms.
I switched from clockworkmod to Amon_ra's and never looked back.
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Look in my sig
I flashed Amon_RA earlier this week which ended my like 6 months spree of CWM and tbh, I've never looked back. RA recovery is way better.
Meaple said:
Look in my sig
I flashed Amon_RA earlier this week which ended my like 6 months spree of CWM and tbh, I've never looked back. RA recovery is way better.
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Can you expand on why it's better? I think there are more options for mounting etc.
I read some threads but I'm still unclear! I noticed most people who know what they're about use Ra and I keep wondering why!
I prefer Amon but I could not install leedroid 2.3 or insertcoin, it froze on boot screen.
By changing recovery, it worked straight away.
Everything that is in CWM you get in Amon and more. You get things like ext converter so you can convert ext2 to ext3 and ext3 to ext4. A couple more things too. Tbh, it's only like a 2 second flash anyway so it's not really that hard to look through it.

cant flash CWM over Amon RA in rom manager

I've been using Amon RA basically since i've had my incredible, but recently with all these new roms, specifically the 3.0/3.5 roms, they seem to be only CWM compatible, and i was trying to switch back to CWM through ROM manager. It says it has been installed but everytime i boot into recovery, its just going to Amon RA. So i was wondering how i could install this manually? There seems to be a way to do it through ABD, but i have no experience with this, plus all instructions using this method i see seem to be for PC's, I have a MAC...
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Try the PB31IMG versions from http://dougpiston.com/?page_id=85
Do you have "erase recovery" checked in the settings? It clears your recovery before flashing a new one. I know a lot of people have had issues upgrading versions of CWM because that box wasn't checked.
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tried checking the erase the recovery box, did not work, but flashing it as a pbimg worked. Thanks guys!
mslam02 said:
tried checking the erase the recovery box, did not work, but flashing it as a pbimg worked. Thanks guys!
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No problem, I knew you weren't completely screwed, just had to figure out which method to do.
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[Q] Need .zip for Clockwork Mod Recovery

Hey guys, Sprint ended up changing something on my account and screwing up my evo so I couldn't access 3g. Long story short, I RUU'd to get it back to stock and was able to then get 3g data back. Now it still shows S-Off, but I can't boot into recovery and the clockwork mod rom manager won't work, because it says my phone still needs to be rerooted. I was thinking since when I boot into recovery it says S-Off, i'm already rooted and I just need the zip for clockwork mod recovery and I can then go in and flash roms to my hearts content.
Does anyone know where I can find the .zip for clockwork mod recovery?
You need to flash clockworkmod through the bootloader I wouldnt recommend clockworkmod and most people don't recommend it you can find it on clockworkmod.com under recovery images and look for the EVO
Edit:also you might have to flash a superuser zip to get root back
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I don't personally recommend clockworkmod to use as your recovery, but if you just need to have it, you should find it much easier to run the attached PC36IMG file from your SD card.
Also, you may need to flash (or install from SD card) through clockwork the attached superuser zip file to obtain your root permissions if you are going to continue to use stock ROM.
That works
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
I would use amon RA or amon RA style supersonic recovery since u had cwm b4 I'd recommend RA style supersonic recovery 3.0.8 as it will allow you to use your cwm backups as well as RA backups and any backups you make in the future, plus it has capacitive buttons and touch screen working in recovery has a battery level option and etc check it out in development
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hcavlnch said:
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
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Good luck cwm is garbage compared to RA on the evo it doesn't like to wipe properly alot of times, as well as it doesn't have the same wipe options as RA, atleast it didnt the last time I used it which has been a minute I ditched it for RA almost immediately
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ok i've used the rev tool and installed superuser but says not rooted. I've installed busy box and this is what it is saying. " error. root access not detected. Your device must be rooted to install busy box. if you fell that youare recieving this message in error please go into superuser app and click on busybox installer and then click forget and restart this app." but it is not showing that in superuser. do i just flash the superuser in this section and try it again. i'm rooting a friends phone and followed the instructions to the t. thanks in advanced.

[Q] I Can't Boot Into Recovery

I successfully rooted my phone a few days ago using the Revolutionary method and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery without a problem. Then I flashed CyanogenMod 7.1.0 again without a problem. I noticed my gps has been having an issue detecting my location so I figured I should flash the nandroid for my stock rooted android 2.3.3 rom and see if the issue still exists. My main problem is that I can't boot into recovery. Apparently I have the latest version of Clockwork. I try to boot into recovery using different methods and I keep ending up at the white screen that says 'Revolutionary' in pink at the top with the 3 skateboarding androids at the bottom. I try to get to recovery from that screen also still with no success. It just reboots into that screen. I was thinking I may have to use the ruu to unroot my Evo (I rather find an alternative solution). How can I regain my ability to boot into recovery? Any help would be much appreciated...
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ClockworkMod 5.0.2.2
If grab the pc36img for amon_ra, throw it in the root of your SD, using a card reader in a computer, get into hboot and let it install. Then try to get into recovery. F clockwork anyway.....90% of the peeps around here having problems are running that recovery
DoubleA319 said:
I successfully rooted my phone a few days ago using the Revolutionary method and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery without a problem. Then I flashed CyanogenMod 7.1.0 again without a problem. I noticed my gps has been having an issue detecting my location so I figured I should flash the nandroid for my stock rooted android 2.3.3 rom and see if the issue still exists. My main problem is that I can't boot into recovery. Apparently I have the latest version of Clockwork. I try to boot into recovery using different methods and I keep ending up at the white screen that says 'Revolutionary' in pink at the top with the 3 skateboarding androids at the bottom. I try to get to recovery from that screen also still with no success. It just reboots into that screen. I was thinking I may have to use the ruu to unroot my Evo (I rather find an alternative solution). How can I regain my ability to boot into recovery? Any help would be much appreciated...
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Turn off your phone,then when turning it on hold the volume rocker in the down position,you will then boot into hboot settings,hboot will automatically check for the update file(PC36IMG)after its done,scroll to recovery and enter that way,if you still cant get into recovery,you will need to download and reinstall the latest revolutionary root tool,i recommend using "TeamWin Recovery Project" i've never had a problem with it.
Just to let you know, guys, TWRP v2 is out! I'll post the link to Amon Ra. You can find the link to TWRP 2 in my sig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
Thanks for the answers. I'll reply again when I get a chance to put the advice to use
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Lacedaemon said:
Just to let you know, guys, TWRP v2 is out! I'll post the link to Amon Ra. You can find the link to TWRP 2 in my sig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654
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I was actually going to go the amon ra route because i was familiar with it while I had a HTC Hero. But TWRP v2 caught my attention and I decided to go that route. So far so good as far as I can tell. I made a nandroid backup. Thanks. Any tips or info I should know about using TWRP?
And 1 more thing. I have a nandroid backup from when I had clockwork recovery. I should still be able to flash that back up right?
DoubleA319 said:
I was actually going to go the amon ra route because i was familiar with it while I had a HTC Hero. But TWRP v2 caught my attention and I decided to go that route. So far so good as far as I can tell. I made a nandroid backup. Thanks. Any tips or info I should know about using TWRP?
And 1 more thing. I have a nandroid backup from when I had clockwork recovery. I should still be able to flash that back up right?
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Nope you can't flash your CWM backup since your on TWRP. You would have to flash back to the version of CWM that you made the backup with
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Man that sucks. I need to be able to access that particular nandroid. Thats my stock backup right after I rooted my phone. Ok so I can flash back to clockwork, restore my nandroid, then go back to TWRP and make a backup compatible with TWRP?
DoubleA319 said:
Man that sucks. I need to be able to access that particular nandroid. Thats my stock backup right after I rooted my phone. Ok so I can flash back to clockwork, restore my nandroid, then go back to TWRP and make a backup compatible with TWRP?
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Yup
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How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. Im guessing i have to go through rom manager, but this was part of the issue to begin with
DoubleA319 said:
How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. And where can I get clockwork from?
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Clockworkmod.com . Also I believe revolutionary gives you the latest version so just flash the latest CWM for the evo4g
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some how after flashing twrp then going back to cwm via rom manager, cwm seems to be working now
DoubleA319 said:
How can I figure out the version though? clockwork installed on my phone right after I rooted my phone via the revolutionary method. I did this about 2 weeks ago. Im guessing i have to go through rom manager, but this was part of the issue to begin with
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I installed a new recovery after i installed revolution,because i also had recovery issues.The version should be at the top of the recovery screen.I didnt like rom manager too much,for some reason it gives me problems.
They say that this version of Amon can be used to restore clockwork backups. I haven't tried it with clockwork myself because I avoids clockworkmod.
Thanks for the help everyone. Everything is gravy now. I'm happy with TWRP. I do have a question for making a backup. By default in TWRP, the 1st 3 boxes are checked up for when attempting to make a backup. Do any of you guys ever check the other boxes (Recovery, cache, .android_secure) and if so, why? Also, when you attempt to wipe before restoring, which items do you guys wipe? Any other tips or suggestions about this recovery would appreciated too.
I backup everything except cache.

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