Dear all, I have been using APP2SD on Froyo. I know that programs will be forced to be saved to SD card. However I want to know where exactly is the folder that save program that are installed on the phone. When I used "SystemPanel" to check the storage space for "Internal Memory" or "Application Storage" I can see that Path is "/data", total space is 147.6M and available space is 46.3M, but where exactly are these files located on my phone??? Many thanks!!!
AFAIK, the location /data is part of the 512MB of built-in Flash rom, which is similar in function to an SD card.
The strange amount for /data (147.6 MB) is probably the result of a simple calculation:
512MB - "Firmware (74.4 MB)" - "/system (250 MB)" - "/cache (40 MB)".
The 74.4 MB is just a guesstimate to make the calculation work...
Thanks! How can I access /data? Can you let me know the detail? Thanks!!
Hi, I've recently installed MIUI-Au on my Desire. Think everything went fine, but when I install apps now it still seems to install on my internal memory instead of ext3. Under SD card settings it tells me A2SD+ has a total space of 504mb and available space of 462mb and my internal memory only has 16.39mb left. Is there anything I have to enable to make the apps install on the ext3 partition instead?
THanks
http://www.miui-au.com/faq/a2sd/
I've read that already, still doesn't solve my problem though. I assume A2SD+ is working because it shows up on the SD card info and Quick System Info when I load it.. is that assumption wrong? Whenever I install an app, almost all the data is installed on internal memory and then I get the message memory is full while A2SD+ is almost completely empty.
What does quick system info say?
It would help if you post what it states in terms of internal, external, ext...
For me that has been the most reliable in terms of accuracy.
Mine
A2SD total 0.98gb Free 772mb
Int total 151mb Free 105mb
System 250mb Free 23.23mb
A2SD+ still does not install everything on the ext partition, that is why you can have the low memory message without having filled up your ext partition.
If you need more space look in to using data2sd or changing hboot.
TheGhost1233 said:
A2SD+ still does not install everything on the ext partition, that is why you can have the low memory message without having filled up your ext partition.
If you need more space look in to using data2sd or changing hboot.
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As he says lol...look at my internal!
Thats why I asked for stats..almost completely empty may not mean empty
apps2d moves /data/app/ and dalvik cahe to sd ext
data2sd moves /data/app/ /data/data/ and the dalvik cache to sd ext
A2SD Total 504MB Free 462MB
Internal storage Total 148MB Free 15.34Mb
System Total 250MB Free 125MB
It just seemed a bit uneven IMO.
Hi,
I am new here, sorry for noob question.
Recently I have flashed [ROM-GingerBread] Ginger Villain 0.9 with A2SD+ feature.
Before installation I did full wipe and created new EXT partition on my 4GB SD card with ROM manager (Size: 512MB Wipe:0MB)
After few days from flashing I have installed several applications from Market. Today I have tried to install another one, but no success. It shows me internal memory running out of space. So installation has failed.
I am not able to install more apps anymore. I don't understand it! When I run Quick system info it says:
A2SD storage - total 457MB, Free 342 MB
Internal storage - Total 148MB, Free 13,69MB
Where is the problem? Why is system installing apps to internal storage and not to A2SD storage?
Could somebody help me?
Thanks.
Read up on how A2SD+ works. Either use search or start here.
I have the same problem with Leedroid 2.3d
A2SD+ but internal memory is running out of space and ext has about 300 mb left
Please help
TheGhost1233 said:
Read up on how A2SD+ works. Either use search or start here.
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So basically if internal memory is getting low, the cache is the culprit?
negative13 said:
So basically if internal memory is getting low, the cache is the culprit?
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Most of the time, yes.
I can't install any apps (or update any) because it says I have insufficient memory (or storage or room or whatever). I'm using cm6 with apps2sd and have plenty of room on the sd card ( 4 + gigs) and plenty of room on internal storage (90 + mgbs). Do I have to re run the apps2sd in terminal or something or is my partition full? I doubt it would be full with the amount of apps I have but I made it 264 mbs so when I go over that amount in apps can I not install anymore?
Once the allotted space in the app partition is used up that's all there is, it's not a dynamic partition (growers in size as needed). Perhaps you could look at all your apps to see if some have large cache files you could clear out. You could also try using root explorer and see if there are old files from restored backups that got left there.
thats weird. Try darktremors apps2sd
hey everyone
i have rooted my phone and installed cyanongen mod7, the fact is that i followed the noobprrof tutorial, and as he stated i partitioned my sd card, i left 1 gb ( its a 4gb memory now its divided to 3 and 1 ), but i didnt know where did it go and why i did partition my sd card, i thought it would add up to internal memory but it didnt...
please can anyone tell me whats the purpose of paritioning it ?? and how can i let apps get installed on this paritioned part if its purpose is so...
thanks in advance
It's for a2sd, it doesn't add up in internal memory, if you want to check if it's there download quick sytem info from the market, it's purpose is to store apps on your sd(mainly, there's always some data left.) for example when i had stock 2.2 froyo on my desire non rooted, i couldn't have more than 165-170 apps, now i have 379 and ext is also for the rom itself, like a sense rom doesn't fit totally on the system partion, so the part which doesn't fit is on your sd
Hope you understand it
thank u, i actually understood wut ur saying
for instance, i have downloaded games and stuff, now the phone says that the phonememory is on low storage, i still have like 30 mb... i tend to move apps from phone to sd card...
incase all internal memory is used will it conitinue installing on the 1gb i have paritioned... and is it just a notification that doesnt effect anything...
i also would like to ask if i can i can automatically download & install the apps from the market on the sd card...
thanks again
ps: i checked the system info and yes it is there... a2sd 0.96gb and 0.9gb free
It's not just like that
If you install an app for instance google earth, it's around 24mb, 300-400kb will stay on your phone and the rest will go to that partition automatically, although some apps like this iBeer i installed is fully on sd, it depends, but if you're low on memory just move some apps manually to your sd(this doesn't make them move to the ext but fat32 partition(the part that windows can see). If you just insert a SD and applt android's app2sd not a lot of the app will go to the sd, on the other hand the a2sd implied in rom's doesn't give you limitless place till you sd is full. If you want that apply data2sd, that adds to the internal memory as you thought
the max apps you can put on your desire with a2sd is max 400 i think, as i can't move any app manually to sd, and i have 35mb left with 379 apps
hope u understand it even better now
ok i did move the apps 2 sdcard, but they are moved to the 3gb partition and not the 1gb partition which i cant see, i only want to know what is the purpose of this 1gb that i made due to the tutorial... since i cant move apps to it or even put files on via usb ( as music and stuff )... then why is it created... ??
ps : the 1 gb is ext4 the 3gb is the fat32
i really wish there was some thread explaining all , maybe i would have let ur life easier hehe, im sory but im new on android...
thanks again
What did you use to create the 1gb partition? Did you use something like mini partition .. under windows?
I had a hell of a time trying to get it to work this way (if you did) the solution i found was to get the gparted live cd (google it) and run the partitioning wizard on that and the auto apps2sd will work.
The point of doing it is that some roms need more space than the desire has, I'm using insert coin and it needs a proparly formatted ext3 to work to fit the whole rom onto the phone.
Have you checked using quick system info to see if the a2sd storage is being recognised?
hey amriving
actually i did divide my sd card with gparted, everythings going great, but the fact that i cant use the 1000 mb ext2 partition (app2sd) is wut im asking about... (total of 4gb memory)
i mean when i move the apps to sd card they go to the 3gb fat32 space i have, and not the 1gb i partitioned...
so what i want to know is what is the purpose of this (app2sd) 1gb ext2 partition, how can i use it
i checked the system info and i found that there is 0.96gb of the app2sd partition and there is free 0.9 gb,
i have cyanogen mod7 rom
and thanks for the reply
Don't move it to sd, i think you didn't understood me, it does it automatically, just install a app, look at it's size, then delete it, you'll see that not that size went away from your memory but much less
You can't use it through windows, only if you have linux you'll be able to see inside the ext also with root explorer( go to recovery and then mounts then press mount EXT )
And they go to the 1GB partition. There will be an android.secure in your sd with apps, but if it wouldn't work, i wouldn't have 55mb android.secure with 390 apps now! and just 100mb free on 1.4GB ext, Just don't question this anymore, download 100 apps, you'll see it very well then if you don't then you obviously have a problem
thanks everyone
android.secure is on 3gb fat32 not the 1 gb ext...
i also went to recovery its on mount sd ext...
guys what i want to know is why when moving the apps to sdcard, they are going to 3gb fat32 partition instead of 1gb ext4 partition...
is nt it supposed to go to 1gb ext4 partition ?! which is the reason every android user is doing for ... ?
i have checked the ap2sd and yes it is there
android.secure file is in 3gb partition not the 1gb ext4 partition
No no you didn't understand me, look normally with 160 apps would your phone memory be full, and your android.secure(on the 3gb partition) be large, now it shouldn't be very big anymore, because for example city story is 23mb, 1mb on phone memory and 22 on ext. normally this would be 5-10 mb on phone memory and remainder on the 3gb(fat32 partition) now this is most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
answer
F*S Even i, a noob understood it 3 times allready..
btw this answers my final question here
listen(more like read), i'll try to resimplify the answer for you, think of an android app as a windows app.
a windows app is Commonly installed in 3 - yes THREE seprate location at once!
1. Main Program Files - C:\program files\<APP NAME HERE>
this contains all the app's inner working, modules, GUI, sound, pictures and stuff - most of the app is located here so this folder is 'heavy'
2. appdata - C:\Users\<USER NAME HERE>\appdata\<Local \ Roaming>\<APP NAME HERE>
this may contain any setting, saves, projects, and temp files for the app to use.
so only some parts make it here - litewight but still takes up space..
3. Registry - run>regedit.exe
this is sort of a log file for all windows operation, installaions, apps location and sometimes even app settings
again litewight but takes place..
SAME WITH ANDROID - sort of..
an android app contains Resource Data - like program files, the 'exeutable', settings, modules, critical data for the exeutable and more..
and so when you use the traditional APPS2SD that comes Froyo+ ( settings>apps>google earth>move to SD/PHONE )
all the non-critical data and resources move to the SD fat32 patition.
all the remaining critical data, 'exeutable' and stuff remain on the internal memory which still takes up valuable internal space, that's where a2sd+ comes in, as mentioned before, a2sd+ again moves to rest of the remaining appdata to the ext, and only tiny critical part of the app remains on the internal memory - therefor you get to install many apps until you internal memory fills up or the ext fills up, this time only the absolute critical app files that cant be moved to the ext OR the fat32..
as TopGear63z said:
most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
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data2sd extends your internal storage..
a2sd+ lets you install more aps
EXPERTS: Please verify my answer as i am also a noob and this is my understanding on the subject, i maybe very wrong or very right
PS: Why double post
thankyou asaf400
actually i know all this and i really appreciate ur reply
but wut i wanted is to install apps on ext, and actually i found it i downloaded simple2ext app and now i have 150mb free internal memory, see now all apps are on ext part of the memory card... this is what i wanted to know...
thanks all
or you could just flash a data2sd based custom rom like droidzone's starburst or gingerburst... you'll get upto 2gb of internal memory from the start