Where exactly is "application storage"? - Desire General

Dear all, I have been using APP2SD on Froyo. I know that programs will be forced to be saved to SD card. However I want to know where exactly is the folder that save program that are installed on the phone. When I used "SystemPanel" to check the storage space for "Internal Memory" or "Application Storage" I can see that Path is "/data", total space is 147.6M and available space is 46.3M, but where exactly are these files located on my phone??? Many thanks!!!

AFAIK, the location /data is part of the 512MB of built-in Flash rom, which is similar in function to an SD card.
The strange amount for /data (147.6 MB) is probably the result of a simple calculation:
512MB - "Firmware (74.4 MB)" - "/system (250 MB)" - "/cache (40 MB)".
The 74.4 MB is just a guesstimate to make the calculation work...

Thanks! How can I access /data? Can you let me know the detail? Thanks!!

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[Q] Question A2SD & OpenDesire 4.0.34

Hi,
I'm using OpenDesire 4.0.34 and have partitioned my sdcard to have 3 partitions:
1 - FAT32 14GB
2 - EXT3 512MB
3 - SWAP/CACHE 32MB
Now I have one question:
I have enabled the "Allow application moving" setting in Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings and selected Install location: Internal the same screen.
My question is: I've installed a bunch of apps I often use and they used to leave me with only 19MB free in internal phone memory. Now it shows free internal memory around 120MB?! I've checked all the apps in the Manage applications and they are on the phone (at least it says so). I've mounted /sd-ext in recovery and all the apps are there...
Can anyone explain me what's goin' on here?
Thanks for your help!
Uhm... you do know that the partition of an ext3 sd-ext system is exactly to provide greater storage space for your applications, don't you?!
Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).
z7x8c9 said:
Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).
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When you use Ext3 partition youll get "A2SD+" and both your internal memory and your Ext3 partiton will become your new "internal" space on phone. So if the setting is set to "internal" the apps will go to ext3 and internal phone memory.
The internal phone memory counter however only show how much space you have on the internal phone memory where only small parts of the apps is installed.
I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Please do not make new threads in development to ask questions
z7x8c9 said:
I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...
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you are getting apps2sd confused with the native android move to sd function!!, when you create an ext partition and use a rom that supports apps2sd, the developer has used a script that point the device to the /sd-ext as the INTERNAL STORAGE location, where as if you use the move to sd function in android, the apk's are move to the Androidsecure folder in the root of your sd card, as aposed to being stored in /data/app
I think I've got it...
On an a2sd enabled rom, I'm not required to do anything in order to install apps on the sdcard.
The move to sdcard button is the native android method to move apps to the sdcard.
I got confused because in OpenDesire in the Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings there is an option to allow application moving, but all this does is enable me to move any app to the .android_secure using the move to sdcard button. It's got nothing to do with a2sd, right?
Thanks for your help!

APP2SD half-working.

Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application, now, are installed in the SD card while some others in the Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
- A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
- Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
Hurizen said:
Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application now are installed on SD card, and some on Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other apps 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm having the same problem and the low memory notification pisses me off every time but i deleted some app's data and its gone, although i only have around 16mb free space in the internal storage
Hurizen said:
Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application now are installed on SD card, and some on Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other apps 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
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ok for starters /data/app/ and /system/sd/app/ are the same folder, the apps2sd script has created a symlink between the 2 folders. fyi /system/sd/app/, /system/sd/app-private/ and /system/sd/dalvik-cache, is your ext partition, now there is nothing wrong with the apps2sd on your rom, you are seeing your internal storage decrease because although apps2sd moves /data/app/ to your sd ext, /data/data/ remains on the nand (internal storage) this directory holds all your settings and app data, some apps use up more space in /data/data/ than others, thats why with some apps, your internal storage will stay the same, but others will takes space off it,
It's normal certainly.
YOur 140 Mb probably used for data (application settings and data, application cache)because not all developpers save it on your sd card but in your internal storage too.
Use the app "Quick System Info" (available on the market) and sort your app by application data size.You could see where is your 140 missing data.
Do not forget = > app2sd if for the apk storageONLY and not the application settings or cache (symlink only on /data/app and not on /data/data, did you see the difference ?).
Good luck for your stuff
elfabio said:
It's normal certainly.
Your 140 Mb probably used for data
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You got it!!! Thanks!... But.. Now?
It's there a way to move this data somewhere else?
Thanks everyone!
Hurizen said:
You got it!!! Thanks!... But.. Now?
It's there a way to move this data somewhere else?
Thanks everyone!
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Sure there is a solution
try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219
sibere said:
Sure there is a solution
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Thanks Man!
i also flashed Lee's rom, I have check by using sys info. apps2d has 45Xmb, and 35X mb available, while some apps cannot move the sd card, is my apps2sd functioning properly? how to check? thx~~~~

[Q] Increasing memory allocation for applications

Is it possible to increase the size of the small memory allocation for applications (150mb)? I think I see a lot of people having that dreading "out of memory" error when I have a large amount of phone memory left 5.88gb left. I'm running Skyraider 4. Will you have to repartition?
AznInertia said:
Is it possible to increase the size of the small memory allocation for applications (150mb)? I think I see a lot of people having that dreading "out of memory" error when I have a large amount of phone memory left 5.88gb left. I'm running Skyraider 4. Will you have to repartition?
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The 5.88 GB your seeing is not space for apps it's your internal storage. You can't re-partition the internal partitions on the phone easily if at all. It would be possible to symlink to use a different partition for apps similar to how apps2sd works but I don't know if there are any scripts out for that sort of thing. When I was messing around with different options for DualRom I moved the data/data folder to the data/ partition instead of using the data/data partitions which is the 150mb partition you mentioned and it worked fine but someone would have to write up a script that would run at boot so the phone knew where your apps are.

A2SD Insufficient Storage Problem

My Desire keeps saying 'Installation error, Insufficient storage available.'
I have oxygen 2.0.3 and have rooted and s-offed my phone.
aLogCat:
I/DefContainer(19162): Exception : java.io.IOException: No space left on device when copying file
E/DefContainer(19162): Couldn't copy file: /sdcard/.cache/downloadfile-2.apk
I/vending (18995): [9] MyPackageInstallObserver.packageInstalled(): Package install from content://downloads/my_downloads/87 failed: Insufficient storage available.
Titanium Backup:
Internal: 357 MB (120 MB free)
SD card: 15.6 GB (6.66 GB free)
SD card (a2sd): 239 MB (12.7 MB free)
I've tried clearing all the cache and installing but I can't seem to install anything. I have 120MB left in my internal, so how come I can't seem to install any more applications?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out!
I could be wrong since i'm a real newb. But don't these custom roms automatically install to sd on the ext partition? Could your desire be reading the space left to be only 12.7mb and ignoring the real internal space?
From what you have posted i would say you need to increase the size of your EXT partition
Anyway to make them make use of the internal space as well? I've always thought that A2SD uses both the internal and external space.
srygonic said:
Anyway to make them make use of the internal space as well? I've always thought that A2SD uses both the internal and external space.
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It does but then your relying on that 12meg to be accurate. If there's not enough space here then it won't let it install I should imagine

HTC One X with blocked memory with mysterios "Others"

Dears Helpers!
Like many others I got the problem that the "app memory" of my HOX is blocked with 4,8GB! mysterios "Others" that can not be found anywhere. With your help I would like to be the first one in the world who solves this memory problem.
Please help.
The status:
The HOX got 32GB internal memory. No SD-Card-Slot.
25,24GB are the "Telephone Memory" for Pictures and Videos and Music.
6,76GB are the "app Memory" for the system and apps.
In this app memory the HOX shows 0,86GB for apps and 4,8GB for "Others" only 1GB is free.
The magic thing is, that even after complet factory reset the 4,8GB stay where they are.
So I unlocked the phone, rooted it, put Clockworkmod recovery on it, made a backup (only 1,7GB!), formated all the partitions that let me do this and put the backup back. Everything stood the same.
I put on Cyanogenmod. That shows only the 0,8GB for installed apps and the 1GB free. The 4,8GB where not listed.
Now I am back on stock rom, with root and now TWRP 2.8.0.0.
TWRP shows following partitions:
Cache Size: 300 MB Used: 5MB
Data Size: 2150MB Used 1050MB
(SDCard Size (internal): 25900MB Used 4700MB)
System Size: 1250MB Used 1150MB
The partitions "AndroidSecure" and "Dalvik Cache" are shown but I cant find out how big they are.
All together the partitions are only 3,7GB big. So where are the lost 3GB! of the 6,7GB "App Memory"??!!!
Is there the possibility that there is unpartitioned memory? Can I find out and format it?
Please give me some ideas.
(PS: I tried allready the zip files for TWRP from the following thread, put they donĀ“t execute on my phone. Installing in TWRP produces errors)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/development/mod-reclaim-free-space-partition-t3029605
Is there the possibility that there is unpartitioned memory? Can I find out and format it?
Anyone?
Hauke
Maybe somebody can answer me another question. I found out, that there are 4 tmpfs mount points. Each of them is 492MB big and all of them are empty. Could this the blocked memory? Can I delete or shrink them somehow?
Thank you very much

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