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Fastest sense rom?

What is the fastest sense rom available? Either standard sense or sense HD.
I'm currently on Ginger villain but it has to many issues so would like to go back to 2.2.
But I really like the speed on 2.3 so would like something similar.
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Use Oxygen 2.0.1. It's flawless for me. Or failing that CM7. Both use Gingerbread 2.3.3.

I prefer sense to be honest. I've tried oxygen and redux and all have issues.
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fastest sense rom
the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid

theyau said:
the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid
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Cheers, so next question. So what's quicker, sense or sense HD?
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Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.

Kalavere said:
Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.
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I would say a normal Sense rom would be faster, don't have the data to support this though but all Sense HD rom use data2sd to even run and having all the system files on nand is faster. Heck even having all the applications on the internal memory should be faster.
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Best sense hd Rom with d2ext : rcmixhd
Best hd Rom with d2we: superom
Best hd Rom a2sd insertcoin
Best classic a2sd leedroid
Best classic d2sd starburst
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Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.

patchseven said:
insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.
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I have also heard that but I don't really want to be changing layouts due to the risks involved.
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325i. said:
Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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are you seriously a speed freak, what for do you need the quickest ROM in the world?

I was on redux 2.3 which had really good speed and very stable.
I've had to come back to 2.2 as I had too many issues with 2.3. So I would like a sense Rom that is similar to redux speed wise.
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i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried

expler said:
i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried
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Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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maybe u can emulate the sense features u want with tasker (like the muting by flipping feature) and go pure gingerbread. that ought to be faster than a sense based rom.

325i. said:
Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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then just try data++
but d2ext for me was even beter as a2sd

Not a simple question ...
Speed depends much on:
- your kernel (and any optimizations in the kernel)
- how much you can run from NAND
I am using a combination of tricks from here and there ...
- Sense, Froyo
- Bloatware removed ;-) (I don't use flickr, faceboo, twitter and some of the sense widgets => removed; but in itself this does not contribute to speed)
- some optimization settings running from scripts in /etc/init.d/ (sysctl, readahead increase, optimized memory settings, optimized network settings that work well on my home wireless)
- dalvik heap 48m
Then use data++ to increase your data partition, move /system/app/ to sd card and you can run everything from internal flash memory, which at the end is faster than sd-card tricks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176)
Finally, I have compiled my own kernel (starting from richard's source, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801435) with some additional patches from arighi's blog, see http://arighi.blogspot.com/).
I have tried many many things over the past 4 months but the above so far has resulted in an extremely fast ROM with absolutely no lags.

Any other views?
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I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext and it is super fast, ultra smooth and unbelieveable stable.
I have not got any FCs or data lost or whatsoever, I dunno why some people are having trouble with the Data2Ext version of the ROM.
The A2SD version is also good, fast, smooth, and stable but not as fast and smooth as the Data2Ext version.
I have been using InsertCoin since it was still called Baadnewz 1.3 and I have not used any other ROM ever since I tried it.
My ROMs before are LeeDroids, Robociks HD and Z, DeFrost, and one of the MIUI (I hate MIUIs resemblance to iPhone).
I heard/read the InsertCoin data++ is faster but I wanna stay with Data2Ext at least for now.

GinbgerBread roms not quite there yet?

I have been testing a few gb roms including RCM and reflex. I have found them to be slower when compared to Leedrioid 2.4.1. Are the latest gb roms not quite there yet due to there currently been no official 2.3 ruu?

I have been using InsertCoin since the beginning and it has just gone from strength to strength. Very very fast and faster than Leedroid v2.4.1

Thats one I havent tried, will give it a go.

I'm using LeeDroid 3.0.5 GB and it's freakin' awesome! Built-in task management is such a welcome addition, works really well IMO...

I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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insertcoin now is nice for me. v20 that is. tried v17 a week ago maybe and it was laggy at times. v20 is nice

Both Insertcoin and Reflex S roms are very fast and responsive roms. By the way, if you feel comfortable changing your partition tables (really easy with android flasher) You should give the CM7 partion table roms a go, they're even faster than the normal A2SD versions. (Insertcoin and RCMix have this for instance)

Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
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InsertCoin
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I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.

I tried Redux and Oxygen. Fast gb roms imo.

i like Reflex S v1.9.9
But now Videocamera is still a problem

I had MMS issues on GB roms, despite they are quite fast, they feel too buggy to me, that's why I reflashed a stock Froyo rom (that is bug free)

Going from Froyo to Gingerbread
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I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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Hi. Could you pass on a little information to me please? I have Leedroid 2.4.1(Froyo). I'm using A2SD with an ext3 partition. Not using Sense.
Would like to give a Gingerbread ROM a try.
Is there anything I need to do special/different when putting a GB based ROM onto my Desire as oppose to when I've upgraded a Froyo based one?
I'm thinking Radio updates or Nandroid backup or....?
Thanks

miui rocks and now its 2.3.4 check it out miuiandroid .com

Yes i can confirm that, im using cmiui. Its the best miui version. I think its the best because i cant find bugs ^^
In Addition: if u try it u will never have an other rom. Anymor, so many features its incredible and so easy to use
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3f1f37 said:
NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped
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Thx mate.. and what about S-OFF ? is security-off a 'must' for custom roms? or just for some certain purposes?
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DevNull, the fastest ROM I've had since rooting back in May last year.
20 Seconds to boot from completely off, and insanely fast to use.

Chilldesire said:
I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.
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Did you try insertcoin?

[Q] Which ROM?

Hi all, I have HTC desire and I am constantly running out of internal memory I am going to root the phone to solve this. I am a complete noob to this so which custom ROM would be easy to install and stable out of the following Cyanogenmod7, LeeDroid 3.0.5 or MIUI ROM, Thanks

Id try the cyanogenmod or miui.

Cyanogenmod 7 or Gingervillain plus CMHBOOT(from alpharev.nl) can solve your problem I think

Thanks for replies jroc716 & plohoi. I will have closer lock at the ROMS ye have recommended

all these rom's r running fast and stable. internal-memory problems had gone by integrating ext-partition(s). so which rom u take is just a matter of ur personal favors.

I have had look at the ROMS suggested in this tread and I am going to flash MIUI Rom by xavierjohn22 but not sure which version is most stable. Should I flash the froyo version (2.2) or 2.3.4 gingerbread (latest version) or 2.3 gingerbread. . I be grateful for any help on this, thanks

1st of all you better obtain an SD Card at least Class4 then follow the guide with the link I will give below. This will help you move your applications to SD and have more space.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And as a ROM Choice, better use InsertCoin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940

Thanks alpivelopx for the reply. Ya I have class 4 SD card and I have carefully studied the noob proof guide just can’t make up my mind on which rom to flash.
I likr the look of MIUI have any experience using this rom? Which version is most stable?
I have had a look at InsertCoin and having the new Sense would be cool.
I use google maps a lot and assume this bug “compass doesn't always point north” will be a problem. Is there a stable Froyo version?

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Thanks alpivelopx for the reply. Ya I have class 4 SD card and I have carefully studied the noob proof guide just can’t make up my mind on which rom to flash.
I likr the look of MIUI have any experience using this rom? Which version is most stable?
I have had a look at InsertCoin and having the new Sense would be cool.
I use google maps a lot and assume this bug “compass doesn't always point north” will be a problem. Is there a stable Froyo version?
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At first: One cannot say, which is the best rom. It's a personal feeling. You should read the posts where the authors describe there themes and then you should decide. If you cannot, just try one. If you like it, stay with it.
I think you should install the latest version of MIUI. It's usually the most stable version.
I cannot find a (stable) Froyo version of Insertcoin. Maybe ask the author (baadnewz) if he can upload it for you.

Thanks Matdroid, I think your right. I'll try a few roms and decide which is best for me.

I can recommend Leedroid 2.4.1.
A very good and stable Sense rom with A2SD+!
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Like others have said... it's more of a personal opinion with ROMs as to their speed and usefulness but if you can get by with the compass issue until it gets resolved (hopefully shouldn't be too long as devs are working like crazy at porting sense 2.1/3.0 to desire) I warmly recommend InsertCoin.
The chef is pushing updates like there's no tomorrow an also makes time to answer people's questions (how he manages it I don't know...) and also you have all the info you need in the first 2 post of the thread.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
PS: regarding speed, keep in mind that benchmark apps (Quadrant) don't tell the full tale. Try the ROMs for yourself.

I second leedroid 2.4.1..... fast and stable with a2sd+. I wouldn't bother with gingerbread yet still a bit buggy
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+1 on leedroid 2.4.1

My first not-htc-rom was leedroid v.3.0.5. It was nice. But since a while i use redux v1.2. I like it much more than leedroid, although you have to readjust a little to use a non-sense-rom.

The best froyo sense rom is the InsertCoinHD 2.0.1 Data2Ext.
The best gingerbread rom is InsertCoin v25 CM7.

Keep in mind that Cynogenmod and Miui don't include Htc Sense on it.
I've been using on Leedroid (froyo) for sometime and it was great and stable.
I'm running now Insertcoin v25 (gingerbread) and it's also great. I got 2 issues that I can live with - the compass issue (not pointing north) and the camera makes my phone boot itself sometimes. but other than that it's great.
Both roms have a2sd+, and if you want something stable than I recommend Leedroid 2.4.1. After some time you can get gingerbread roms based on the official release from htc (something like mid-june or a bit later)

Hi
Hmm running out of internal Space *gg*
I Recommend you use InsertCoin, or an ROM Which fits on CM Hboot, Here is the System Partition smaller, difference space is added to userdata, so "more internal" Memory for you.
Pls. Think if you change your SD Card, or crash of it, your OS Cant booting because 1/3 of our System is stored on it. (sdext)
S-Off required.
If you don´t want to manipulate hboot (afraid of crashing bootloader), use any App2SD Rom.
I have many Problems with DATA2SD and DATA2Whatever Scripts.
App2SD is very good.
*I User Insertcoin GS_V26* and i´m happy with it.
Baadnewz is providing these Rom with STock or CM Hboot.
Just Look at a few Roms, (Download 2-3 Roms and test it) an fix install it, which you mostly like. ))
Sorry for my bad english, i´m from austria *hmp*
Greetz
Joachim

I recommend Oxygen or MIUI! Both very good and stable!

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Hmm running out of internal Space *gg*
I Recommend you use InsertCoin, or an ROM Which fits on CM Hboot, Here is the System Partition smaller, difference space is added to userdata, so "more internal" Memory for you.
Pls. Think if you change your SD Card, or crash of it, your OS Cant booting because 1/3 of our System is stored on it. (sdext)
S-Off required.
If you don´t want to manipulate hboot (afraid of crashing bootloader), use any App2SD Rom.
I have many Problems with DATA2SD and DATA2Whatever Scripts.
App2SD is very good.
*I User Insertcoin GS_V26* and i´m happy with it.
Baadnewz is providing these Rom with STock or CM Hboot.
Just Look at a few Roms, (Download 2-3 Roms and test it) an fix install it, which you mostly like. ))
Sorry for my bad english, i´m from austria *hmp*
Greetz
Joachim
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@MindVision1Thanks for the reply. I am right in saying the Hboot resizes the internal memory to allocate different amount of space to the system. You can get different hboot's from http://alpharev.nl/ so I am right in saying the cm hboot you recommend is the Bravo CM7 on alpharev site.
So If I go with the CM Hboot I have to get a custom rom that fits the 130MB system memory and will also have 300MB free for apps on the internal memory.
If some of the rom is on the sd card and I remove it or it gets damaged I will have a major problem?
How do you know what size a ROM is?
My desire is stock with no branding

[Q] InsertCoin CM7 or A2SD

I'm using InsertCoin CM7 for a long time now.
But what's the difference between CM7 and A2SD? And what do you recommend me?
Greetz

CM7 version runs more parts of the system from NAND memory - means faster performance & less-to none micro-lags.
I'm using it since the first versions came out - worth a try.

Thanks for your reply.
But they say that CM7 a non-sense ROM is, but on the InsertCoin ROM they are sense..
So is still don't get it.. sorry

I think you are mistaken. The CM7 in this case is the HBOOT it is using. CM7 Hboot and Stock Hboot. For more info, http://alpharev.nl/

So cm7 is better than a2sd..
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Jeah, the perfomance is overall better
If you have a slow sd card it has its greatest advantages
Be ause the dalvik cache is on nand and this is a performance booster :-D

I am very like the CM7 rom, this rom is more stable and more spec, that's a good choice

[Q] choosing a Kernel

Hi,
I have a problem with SD speed and I was told that it is an issue of my kernel. I want to try another one. Is there something I should know about choosing a different kernel? Could it change some features of my ROM? I use GingerVillain based on CM7. I have absolutely no idea which and where to get the right one.
Thanks for some advice!

Where were you told that this issue is caused by kernel?
Try this tweak:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-200-with-a-simple-tweak-hands-on-benchmarks/
If this does not work, write more about your phone (device, rom, etc) and how/where you recognize this speed problem.

In one of the forums people told me and I also read it before.
I have HTC Desire, GingerVillain 2.5 ROM based on CM7. My SD is Kingston 16GB, class4. The problem is that when I copy some data to my SD from PC the speed is cca 400kb/s, what is horrible!!

devcager said:
In one of the forums people told me and I also read it before.
I have HTC Desire, GingerVillain 2.5 ROM based on CM7. My SD is Kingston 16GB, class4. The problem is that when I copy some data to my SD from PC the speed is cca 400kb/s, what is horrible!!
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Try the tweak and tell me if it worked.

The lack of speed is related to the kernel 2.6.37 and upwards. 2.6.35 is a good shout to get it fixed although it isn't guaranteed. As for AOSP roms, I use the ManU kernel by Eviolett. Seems to have worked for me although I don't get super fast speeds, I get faster speeds.

+1 for manu 2.0 cfs kernel!!
Franck
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what kernel would be best for Leedroid 3.07 A2SD

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what kernel would be best for Leedroid 3.07 A2SD
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Search leedroid forum.
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herb1 said:
what kernel would be best for Leedroid 3.07 A2SD
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Choose from this wonderful list of kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12350779&postcount=3

Well, Leedroid is Sense based Gingerbread - so the stock one to avoid any GFX glitches, radio problems, etc.
You can try the older one's or AOSP ones - but see for yourself.