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Fastest sense rom?

What is the fastest sense rom available? Either standard sense or sense HD.
I'm currently on Ginger villain but it has to many issues so would like to go back to 2.2.
But I really like the speed on 2.3 so would like something similar.
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Use Oxygen 2.0.1. It's flawless for me. Or failing that CM7. Both use Gingerbread 2.3.3.

I prefer sense to be honest. I've tried oxygen and redux and all have issues.
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fastest sense rom
the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid

theyau said:
the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid
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Cheers, so next question. So what's quicker, sense or sense HD?
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Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.

Kalavere said:
Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.
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I would say a normal Sense rom would be faster, don't have the data to support this though but all Sense HD rom use data2sd to even run and having all the system files on nand is faster. Heck even having all the applications on the internal memory should be faster.
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Best sense hd Rom with d2ext : rcmixhd
Best hd Rom with d2we: superom
Best hd Rom a2sd insertcoin
Best classic a2sd leedroid
Best classic d2sd starburst
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Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.

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insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.
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I have also heard that but I don't really want to be changing layouts due to the risks involved.
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325i. said:
Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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are you seriously a speed freak, what for do you need the quickest ROM in the world?

I was on redux 2.3 which had really good speed and very stable.
I've had to come back to 2.2 as I had too many issues with 2.3. So I would like a sense Rom that is similar to redux speed wise.
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i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried

expler said:
i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried
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Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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maybe u can emulate the sense features u want with tasker (like the muting by flipping feature) and go pure gingerbread. that ought to be faster than a sense based rom.

325i. said:
Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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then just try data++
but d2ext for me was even beter as a2sd

Not a simple question ...
Speed depends much on:
- your kernel (and any optimizations in the kernel)
- how much you can run from NAND
I am using a combination of tricks from here and there ...
- Sense, Froyo
- Bloatware removed ;-) (I don't use flickr, faceboo, twitter and some of the sense widgets => removed; but in itself this does not contribute to speed)
- some optimization settings running from scripts in /etc/init.d/ (sysctl, readahead increase, optimized memory settings, optimized network settings that work well on my home wireless)
- dalvik heap 48m
Then use data++ to increase your data partition, move /system/app/ to sd card and you can run everything from internal flash memory, which at the end is faster than sd-card tricks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176)
Finally, I have compiled my own kernel (starting from richard's source, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801435) with some additional patches from arighi's blog, see http://arighi.blogspot.com/).
I have tried many many things over the past 4 months but the above so far has resulted in an extremely fast ROM with absolutely no lags.

Any other views?
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I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext and it is super fast, ultra smooth and unbelieveable stable.
I have not got any FCs or data lost or whatsoever, I dunno why some people are having trouble with the Data2Ext version of the ROM.
The A2SD version is also good, fast, smooth, and stable but not as fast and smooth as the Data2Ext version.
I have been using InsertCoin since it was still called Baadnewz 1.3 and I have not used any other ROM ever since I tried it.
My ROMs before are LeeDroids, Robociks HD and Z, DeFrost, and one of the MIUI (I hate MIUIs resemblance to iPhone).
I heard/read the InsertCoin data++ is faster but I wanna stay with Data2Ext at least for now.

Best Data2EXT ROM -Stock

I'm looking for a Stock HTC Sense ROM with excellent Data2EXT.
I'm trying Starburst at the moment, but I've had some major issues that have resulted in me having to reinstall.
HTC messed up big time when they decided 148mb internal memory was enough. It isn't. So now I need a ROM that is stable, stock, but has data2EXT.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
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cannot download from droidzone, registered and activated account but no links for starburst extreme on the site, pretty messy site by the way

I was using data2sd for month supporting DroidZone and his roms.
at this moment I think better solution is s-off, cm7r2 hboot and dalvik cache on sd.
It gives the same results and is a lot more stable.
Sorry DroidZone, mate.
Swyped from SGS2.

try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919

dan281082 said:
try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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AlexV 1.6HD port FTW!
dan281082 said:
try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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Droidzone's ROM's are great but Sibere's implementation of DATA2EXT doesn't play nicely with quite a lot of SD cards. AlexV's works with cards that Droidzone's lag on. (AlexV's uses Ownhere's data2ext script which is apparently more liable to data loss than Sibere's, but I never lost data on either).

is data2ext with class 10 sd card, stock hboot and s-off the best performance scenario or....

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is data2ext with class 10 sd card, stock hboot and s-off the best performance scenario or....
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You do not need S-OFF for data2sd. And you do not need to use stock hboot. The big advantage of data2ext is nearly unlimited internal memory.

But would it benefit in some speed and stability if I found a ROM with data2sd, or in another words:
What's the best scenario on HTC Desire, data2ext/data2sd/a2sd wich hboot and so on ????
I have a class10 16GB card and my priority is speed and stability!!!

A fast sd card is important for data2sd. And when the data2sd script is well-programmed (like supernova extreme or miui x-part), you won't have any speed/stability issues.
And there is no "best scenario" in general. You have to test which configuration fits your preferences best.

GinbgerBread roms not quite there yet?

I have been testing a few gb roms including RCM and reflex. I have found them to be slower when compared to Leedrioid 2.4.1. Are the latest gb roms not quite there yet due to there currently been no official 2.3 ruu?

I have been using InsertCoin since the beginning and it has just gone from strength to strength. Very very fast and faster than Leedroid v2.4.1

Thats one I havent tried, will give it a go.

I'm using LeeDroid 3.0.5 GB and it's freakin' awesome! Built-in task management is such a welcome addition, works really well IMO...

I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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insertcoin now is nice for me. v20 that is. tried v17 a week ago maybe and it was laggy at times. v20 is nice

Both Insertcoin and Reflex S roms are very fast and responsive roms. By the way, if you feel comfortable changing your partition tables (really easy with android flasher) You should give the CM7 partion table roms a go, they're even faster than the normal A2SD versions. (Insertcoin and RCMix have this for instance)

Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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iLHaNroID said:
Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped

InsertCoin
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I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.

I tried Redux and Oxygen. Fast gb roms imo.

i like Reflex S v1.9.9
But now Videocamera is still a problem

I had MMS issues on GB roms, despite they are quite fast, they feel too buggy to me, that's why I reflashed a stock Froyo rom (that is bug free)

Going from Froyo to Gingerbread
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I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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Hi. Could you pass on a little information to me please? I have Leedroid 2.4.1(Froyo). I'm using A2SD with an ext3 partition. Not using Sense.
Would like to give a Gingerbread ROM a try.
Is there anything I need to do special/different when putting a GB based ROM onto my Desire as oppose to when I've upgraded a Froyo based one?
I'm thinking Radio updates or Nandroid backup or....?
Thanks

miui rocks and now its 2.3.4 check it out miuiandroid .com

Yes i can confirm that, im using cmiui. Its the best miui version. I think its the best because i cant find bugs ^^
In Addition: if u try it u will never have an other rom. Anymor, so many features its incredible and so easy to use
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3f1f37 said:
NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped
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Thx mate.. and what about S-OFF ? is security-off a 'must' for custom roms? or just for some certain purposes?
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DevNull, the fastest ROM I've had since rooting back in May last year.
20 Seconds to boot from completely off, and insanely fast to use.

Chilldesire said:
I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.
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Did you try insertcoin?

New rom suggestion after insert coin 1.1.4

Hi,
After an about half year with insert coin 1.1.4 by Baadnewz I'm looking for a replacement mostly because I want to renew.
I know that many roms are great but wanted to hear suggestions from users that tried few and especially if someone already did the change from the insert coin rom.
I don't want to loose sense so only roms with it are acceptable for now by me.
The phone has stock h-boot 0.93 cwm and S-off.
Need calls recording kernel with it and ad hoc function working like I have now.
Thank you for helping
Lior
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Lior84 said:
Hi,
After an about half year with insert coin 1.1.4 by Baadnewz I'm looking for a replacement mostly because I want to renew.
I know that many roms are great but wanted to hear suggestions from users that tried few and especially if someone already did the change from the insert coin rom.
I don't want to loose sense so only roms with it are acceptable for now by me.
The phone has stock h-boot 0.93 cwm and S-off.
Need calls recording kernel with it and ad hoc function working like I have now.
Thank you for helping
Lior
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Hi. I changed from insertcoin rom because baadnewz no longer develops it. The first rom I've installed after insertcoin was Runnymede by Sebastiaan15. It's a great rom, but I changed it again when Seb announced he will not develop the rom for a time. I installed then RunnyRom and I can tell you that it's a good rom, with sense 3.5 , fast and smooth. Now i'm running runnymede again (because of the INT2SD feature), but you can try both of them. good luck

i suggest you Mild wild 3.7v
is best ROM for daily usage

rares1235 said:
Hi. I changed from insertcoin rom because baadnewz no longer develops it. The first rom I've installed after insertcoin was Runnymede by Sebastiaan15. It's a great rom, but I changed it again when Seb announced he will not develop the rom for a time. I installed then RunnyRom and I can tell you that it's a good rom, with sense 3.5 , fast and smooth. Now i'm running runnymede again (because of the INT2SD feature), but you can try both of them. good luck
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+1, Cept I tried RSK 6.0 before it went crazy (instead of runnyrom 3.5 but same basic Rom). Runnyrom seems a bit snappier, but I'm abt to try runneymede with int2sd-s
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+1, Cept I tried RSK 6.0 before it went crazy (instead of runnyrom 3.5 but same basic Rom). Runnyrom seems a bit snappier, but I'm abt to try runneymede with int2sd-s
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If you want to install runnymede with int2sd-s make sure your card is at least class 4. For me, with a class 2 one, the rom has a considerable lag. Now I want to buy a class 6 (or 10) one for a better performance.

I also had Insert Coin untill yesterday. Switched to Mildwild. Not sure if this stays on for long... But i'm not sure which other rom I should try.

Miss pndedin
Switched from RunnyMede AIO to SuperNova 2.4.0.1! I now have (almost) infinite storage (thanks to data2sd) and the batterylife is outstanding! It's the perfect rom for everyday use

Runnymede AIO 6.0.4.3 with Droidzone #18 kernel. Very stable

I have Mildwild 3.8
im not too fond of the rom because of small aesthetic flaws but it seems to be working fairly well.
CM7 rocked a lot but since it didnt get updated anymore i switched to mw 3.7 and later to 3.8 cause its based on cm7
so far it works well,
if u want a small fluent rom there is dGB
if u want a sense rom and dont mind having to partition ur sd and stuff there is runnymede as ppl said before me

Try MIUI for change! its theme engine is great, pretty stable too, using it for nearly an year now. Download at miuiandroid.com.

Lol, thread is like a bunch of kids all screaming out who their favorite sports hero is!!
Mate, just look at which are the popular threads in the Dev section, pick two or three ROMs that seem to have the features you want and try each of them for a few days.
There is only one person that can tell you which is the "best ROM" for you, and that is yourself...

Scroll lag in some roms ! Help !

I tried almost all sense 2.1 roms and was happy with a few. The major problem i had with the roms like insertcoin, rcmixs was i had the scroll lag in contacts and OI file manager. But in the roms like an-droid it was missing. Is there any specific reason behind this lag. PLease help

karthikus said:
I tried almost all sense 2.1 roms and was happy with a few. The major problem i had with the roms like insertcoin, rcmixs was i had the scroll lag in contacts and OI file manager. But in the roms like an-droid it was missing. Is there any specific reason behind this lag. PLease help
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I think an-droid uses the stock kernel so the cpu frequency is 384-998 but sense 2.1 roms usually use gingercake or snq kernel (254-1190) . You can try increasing your cpu frequency to 384 .
P.s sorry for my really bad english !!
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Thanks for the reply. Tried changing the frequencies, governors and even kernels - tried alex-v, snq etc still no significant improvement. Any other suggestions?

karthikus said:
Thanks for the reply. Tried changing the frequencies, governors and even kernels - tried alex-v, snq etc still no significant improvement. Any other suggestions?
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which hboot are you using ?? cm7 or stock ??
try using stock with custom roms . cuz system apps are installed on system partition instead of ext4 and the system partition is WAY FASTER than Class10 sd card !!
but in cm7 applications are installed in ext4 . you can also try faster sd cards if youre using cm7 hboot .

valid doubt. But why the same hboot with alexv rom or leedroid rom works perfectly but lags in Rcmix s and insertcoin rom?

its because you are using more ram in those roms.