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What is the fastest sense rom available? Either standard sense or sense HD.
I'm currently on Ginger villain but it has to many issues so would like to go back to 2.2.
But I really like the speed on 2.3 so would like something similar.
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Use Oxygen 2.0.1. It's flawless for me. Or failing that CM7. Both use Gingerbread 2.3.3.
I prefer sense to be honest. I've tried oxygen and redux and all have issues.
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the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid
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the fastest hd sense rom is insertcoinhd and the fastest normal sense rom is leedroid
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Cheers, so next question. So what's quicker, sense or sense HD?
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Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.
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Sense HD, but I have only tried it on my DHD albeit very briefly before installing CM. I can't say what the ports are like.
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I would say a normal Sense rom would be faster, don't have the data to support this though but all Sense HD rom use data2sd to even run and having all the system files on nand is faster. Heck even having all the applications on the internal memory should be faster.
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Best sense hd Rom with d2ext : rcmixhd
Best hd Rom with d2we: superom
Best hd Rom a2sd insertcoin
Best classic a2sd leedroid
Best classic d2sd starburst
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Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.
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insertcoin data++ is the fastest HD rom I have seen, or used. Need some basic knowledge to get it running (custom NAND partitions). But wow it is super smooth for me so far.
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I have also heard that but I don't really want to be changing layouts due to the risks involved.
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325i. said:
Just installed insertcoin Rom and its really good so far.
Question is, is there any way to make the Rom quicker? I'm currently on A2SD.
Will D2SD be quicker?
I don't want D2Ext as I have heard that nandroid does not recognise the 2nd partition so I will not be able to do a backup.
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are you seriously a speed freak, what for do you need the quickest ROM in the world?
I was on redux 2.3 which had really good speed and very stable.
I've had to come back to 2.2 as I had too many issues with 2.3. So I would like a sense Rom that is similar to redux speed wise.
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i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried
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i think insertcoin data++ is super fast. im going to flash it in a couple of minutes.
but insertcoin 2.0.0 d2ext was the best rom i have ever tried
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Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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maybe u can emulate the sense features u want with tasker (like the muting by flipping feature) and go pure gingerbread. that ought to be faster than a sense based rom.
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Cheers, I don't really want a D2ext Rom as don't seem very stable, and recovery does not recognize the 2nd partition so nandroid backup does not work.
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then just try data++
but d2ext for me was even beter as a2sd
Not a simple question ...
Speed depends much on:
- your kernel (and any optimizations in the kernel)
- how much you can run from NAND
I am using a combination of tricks from here and there ...
- Sense, Froyo
- Bloatware removed ;-) (I don't use flickr, faceboo, twitter and some of the sense widgets => removed; but in itself this does not contribute to speed)
- some optimization settings running from scripts in /etc/init.d/ (sysctl, readahead increase, optimized memory settings, optimized network settings that work well on my home wireless)
- dalvik heap 48m
Then use data++ to increase your data partition, move /system/app/ to sd card and you can run everything from internal flash memory, which at the end is faster than sd-card tricks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176)
Finally, I have compiled my own kernel (starting from richard's source, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801435) with some additional patches from arighi's blog, see http://arighi.blogspot.com/).
I have tried many many things over the past 4 months but the above so far has resulted in an extremely fast ROM with absolutely no lags.
Any other views?
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I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext and it is super fast, ultra smooth and unbelieveable stable.
I have not got any FCs or data lost or whatsoever, I dunno why some people are having trouble with the Data2Ext version of the ROM.
The A2SD version is also good, fast, smooth, and stable but not as fast and smooth as the Data2Ext version.
I have been using InsertCoin since it was still called Baadnewz 1.3 and I have not used any other ROM ever since I tried it.
My ROMs before are LeeDroids, Robociks HD and Z, DeFrost, and one of the MIUI (I hate MIUIs resemblance to iPhone).
I heard/read the InsertCoin data++ is faster but I wanna stay with Data2Ext at least for now.
I'm looking for a Stock HTC Sense ROM with excellent Data2EXT.
I'm trying Starburst at the moment, but I've had some major issues that have resulted in me having to reinstall.
HTC messed up big time when they decided 148mb internal memory was enough. It isn't. So now I need a ROM that is stable, stock, but has data2EXT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
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cannot download from droidzone, registered and activated account but no links for starburst extreme on the site, pretty messy site by the way
I was using data2sd for month supporting DroidZone and his roms.
at this moment I think better solution is s-off, cm7r2 hboot and dalvik cache on sd.
It gives the same results and is a lot more stable.
Sorry DroidZone, mate.
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try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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AlexV 1.6HD port FTW!
dan281082 said:
try this rom from alex really good rom, nice guy to boot. gingerbread stock rom with data2ext
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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Droidzone's ROM's are great but Sibere's implementation of DATA2EXT doesn't play nicely with quite a lot of SD cards. AlexV's works with cards that Droidzone's lag on. (AlexV's uses Ownhere's data2ext script which is apparently more liable to data loss than Sibere's, but I never lost data on either).
is data2ext with class 10 sd card, stock hboot and s-off the best performance scenario or....
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is data2ext with class 10 sd card, stock hboot and s-off the best performance scenario or....
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You do not need S-OFF for data2sd. And you do not need to use stock hboot. The big advantage of data2ext is nearly unlimited internal memory.
But would it benefit in some speed and stability if I found a ROM with data2sd, or in another words:
What's the best scenario on HTC Desire, data2ext/data2sd/a2sd wich hboot and so on ????
I have a class10 16GB card and my priority is speed and stability!!!
A fast sd card is important for data2sd. And when the data2sd script is well-programmed (like supernova extreme or miui x-part), you won't have any speed/stability issues.
And there is no "best scenario" in general. You have to test which configuration fits your preferences best.
I have been testing a few gb roms including RCM and reflex. I have found them to be slower when compared to Leedrioid 2.4.1. Are the latest gb roms not quite there yet due to there currently been no official 2.3 ruu?
I have been using InsertCoin since the beginning and it has just gone from strength to strength. Very very fast and faster than Leedroid v2.4.1
Thats one I havent tried, will give it a go.
I'm using LeeDroid 3.0.5 GB and it's freakin' awesome! Built-in task management is such a welcome addition, works really well IMO...
I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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insertcoin now is nice for me. v20 that is. tried v17 a week ago maybe and it was laggy at times. v20 is nice
Both Insertcoin and Reflex S roms are very fast and responsive roms. By the way, if you feel comfortable changing your partition tables (really easy with android flasher) You should give the CM7 partion table roms a go, they're even faster than the normal A2SD versions. (Insertcoin and RCMix have this for instance)
Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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Hi, sorry for noob question.. hv never rooted/installed custom roms, but will do that very soon.
What are ext3 and ext4 partitions used for? in tutorials of the dev of InsertCoin seen that only ext4 created (so, why I am confused) & assume ext1 and 2 assigned already to the system, right?
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NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped
InsertCoin
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I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.
I tried Redux and Oxygen. Fast gb roms imo.
i like Reflex S v1.9.9
But now Videocamera is still a problem
I had MMS issues on GB roms, despite they are quite fast, they feel too buggy to me, that's why I reflashed a stock Froyo rom (that is bug free)
Going from Froyo to Gingerbread
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I also used LeeDrOiD v3.0.5. It is really nice. But now i use Redux v1.2 (it is an aosp-gingerbread v2.3.3). It feels so much faster and smoother. Seems to be more stable, too. It does not have Sense, nevertheless i like it much more than leedroid after a short time for adjustment.
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Hi. Could you pass on a little information to me please? I have Leedroid 2.4.1(Froyo). I'm using A2SD with an ext3 partition. Not using Sense.
Would like to give a Gingerbread ROM a try.
Is there anything I need to do special/different when putting a GB based ROM onto my Desire as oppose to when I've upgraded a Froyo based one?
I'm thinking Radio updates or Nandroid backup or....?
Thanks
miui rocks and now its 2.3.4 check it out miuiandroid .com
Yes i can confirm that, im using cmiui. Its the best miui version. I think its the best because i cant find bugs ^^
In Addition: if u try it u will never have an other rom. Anymor, so many features its incredible and so easy to use
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NB: Everything i say here i say under correction.
Ext 3 & 4 are extended file systems, these are needed by ROMS which use A2SD (Apps2SD). These file systems mimic "internal storage" space as when you use a custom ROM that uses A2SD all the apps you install will install to the Ext 3/4 partition. Normally if a ROM says its needs Ext 4 the you need to partition your SD card with a Ext 4 partition or the ROM wont work. Whereas if the sat Ext2/3/4 then you can use either.
Hope this helped
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Thx mate.. and what about S-OFF ? is security-off a 'must' for custom roms? or just for some certain purposes?
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DevNull, the fastest ROM I've had since rooting back in May last year.
20 Seconds to boot from completely off, and insanely fast to use.
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I have decided to go back to 2.4.1, so much faster than the current gb roms, will look at gb when the official software is out and the developers can tweak it.
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Did you try insertcoin?
hey there guys, just wanting some advice currently i have mine and a friend i know using RCMixHD v3.6 i think its great, if a little problematic, but my friend whos phone i rooted and installed RCMixHD v3.6 isnt really any good at all this and if problems arise he has no idea how to fix it. So what im looking for is the best rom to get him using that is trouble free, but that also gives more space for apps, IMO the only problem with these desires is the lack of space for apps.
So guys you lot are the experts, whats the best desire rom that gives more space for apps, preferably i think without partitioning the memory card. cos i think thats whats causing the problems he gets.
If You don't want to partition SD card try one of AOSP roms, but the best way to get more spare for apps is to partition SD and flash A2SD+ rom.
Go s-off and flash either Oxygen or CM7 hboot then the corresponding rom. Personally I have CM7 because I find it better. Anyway, I'd you need to, you can setup A2SD later if need be but you do get 300+ MB of storage with these hboots.
I don't like to use A2SD because for 1, I have a slow card, class 2 and second, it can really **** up.
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Go s-off and flash either Oxygen or CM7 hboot then the corresponding rom. Personally I have CM7 because I find it better. Anyway, I'd you need to, you can setup A2SD later if need be but you do get 300+ MB of storage with these hboots.
I don't like to use A2SD because for 1, I have a slow card, class 2 and second, it can really **** up.
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Yeah do that.
I think this thread will be closed soon.....
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well before its close thanks all for answering, /thumbs up to you all : )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957291
= Best desire rom imo!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957291
= Best desire rom imo!
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I'd rather go with Redux or Oxygen. and trick them out with apps.
I'm using RCMix S 1.6.1 A2SD+ and it's really fast and stable. I've got lot of, ~50 apps, and phone running without any lags. Updates are very often ~1-2 in a week. It's even work on s-on phones. Only condition is sd partition, but if you want a lot of space you need to have one.
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If you want ROM with sense i would go with Leedroid 3.0.6 (stable, fast and has App2SD out of the box). If you want ROM without sense, i would go with Cyanogenmod 7.0.3. It doesn't come with App2SD by default, but you can easily install it.
Well, maybe you should just try out?
Start with oxygen or devnull, install apps, make sure sync all to cloud.
After that try other roms, everytime you flash new rom - get your apps and settings from cloud...
That's what I do when I'm bored and wanna try a new rom....
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hey there guys, just wanting some advice currently i have mine and a friend i know using RCMixHD v3.6 i think its great, if a little problematic, but my friend whos phone i rooted and installed RCMixHD v3.6 isnt really any good at all this and if problems arise he has no idea how to fix it. So what im looking for is the best rom to get him using that is trouble free, but that also gives more space for apps, IMO the only problem with these desires is the lack of space for apps.
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Might want to check on that, the RCMix team are responsible for some of the best, most stable, and most regularly updated ROM's on the HD/Sense3 side so they DO know how.
I would second RCMix, problem is it's by the same guys..
i go with reflextsense 2.05 by now, and downloading.
for me it's fast n stable.
thanks to Neo..
I have used cm, oxygen, insertcoin, leedroid, but my favourite of all is Reflex S by Neo. Currently using 2.0.5, but may switch back to 2.0.2 as I prefer the newer messages app.
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CM 7
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AdamG's DevNull is simple small and stable.
The best rom I've used.
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I rooted my Desire I think a month ago now.
Since then I tried Modaco R26, Cyanogen 7.02, Redux, Defrost and since two days I am using F1 Cyanogen.
I like Defrost very much, it's Froyo (love the froyo white statusbar theme) and it's small and fast. I also like Redux, Gingerbread, but also small and fast.
F1 is Cyanogen based, stripped from lots of stuff that you can dl yourself from the market afterwards if you want. Very nice too.
Some odd thing (to me), I have one or two apk's, like simple clock widget, in some ROM's (Defrost) it will install in English and I will see it in English in Market too, in others (Redux and F1) it's only available in Chinese and if I install the same apk it also turns up as a Chinese version on my phone..
Which one and why?
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1.0.2, I use this rom and it's perfect.
It's is also updated very offen
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But did you use rcmixs?
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I did on daily base... Insert Coin is great, I use v28 Nightly, but also love Robocik's work. The best thing is to try both of them and decide which one is best for you. InsertCoin seems stable and fast... but then again Baad... used RCmixHD as start point...
I'm kinda curious as to the differences too.
Yes I also try RCMix S rom, try them to have your own opinion, try InsertCoin Cm7 Hboot Version
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Well you wouldn't beleive but there are some differences. First of all depends which HBOOT u r using,,couse rcmixhd makes it pretty fast and stable on both stock & cm7 hboot. If u are stock u can try robo's new script x-a2sd and u get over 300 mb internal to start. But feels like InsertCoin somehow perfected cm7 rom ver, while stock is still stuck with some lags. Depends on lot's of things. I use louncher pro always, and it requires strong and stable rom to run smoothly. The differences you can feel...
Maybe i can ask different. What things made you choose one of them after testing them both?
Speed or stability or shiny stuff?
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Well I've been sorta switching between both of them for a while because they are in my opinion the two best Gingerbread Sense ROMs around for the Desire. There aren't in fact any major differences between the two to be honest since they both strive to do pretty much the same thing. InsertCoin gets updated more frequently I find than RCMix since custom ROMs are created by ordinary folk who have other commitments. Both ROMs have few bugs though what happened recently is I used the latest RCMix to find that the maps app kept crashing and then I used InsertCoin to find Paypal and the Collins dictionaries I bought had disappeared from the Android Market. My advice would be to try both and see which one works best for you. If you have Rom Manager Premium, you can also get OTA of InsertCoin which seems to be the most up to date one these days though Baadnews has now created nightlies for InsertCoin as well as a stable version which is also very handy I think. I reckon when the official Gingerbread Desire ROM gets leaked, there'll be less bugs. Anyway have fun!
The Insercoin 1.02 is perfect,
but i had got 1 problem, it's the TTS service can't use
Well, I am using InsertCoin 1.0.2 and I only encountered some minor problems: Facebook for Android does not work properly and the name of my operator changed back to the earlier one. Other than that, I like this ROM.
Agree with Iunoma. I keep flashing InsertCoin's Nightly ver for few days now and call me freaky but somehow feel that InsertCoin's even Nightly rom is faster than RCmixHD. My first choice speed, then stability, then extra stuff... So, there you are. I would rather flash perfected froyo then GB and Kingdom port if they gets slow. And I did at first, then flashed lots of rcmixes and InsertCoin's Nightly at the end... But the most helpful was flashing CM7 over stock HBOOT...
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HTC Desire PVT4 Amuled, CM7 HBOOT, Ra Recovery, InsertCoin ver30 Nightly moded with PBC sense green by scar45, Sd 8gb, class 10 with 1.5 gb ext4 partition