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Update to official Froyo?

ok so, i rooted using simple root, then updated to fully rooted 1.47, and then i installed a kernel that made the fps on nova screens go higher, and better multi touch, and stuff, so i wanted to know how will i get this froyo to go on my phone with root still? do i have to erase the kernel?

Updating with ANY OTA will break your root. Just wait a few days for a rooted version of Froyo to show up on the forums.

no you didnt understand, i know that will happen , but i wanted to know if it was possible to keep my kernel i have and somehow have the froyo update?

It just depends on the dev that puts together the new rom, youll know when it comes out

levels of rooting!

Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance

Fady_0 said:
Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance
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yes shell rooting will let you do everything you want to do, the only thing it lacks is write access to the nand chip while the device is booted, but it does allow it from recovery, dont worry about bricking, unrevoked is fool proof now

Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?

Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 4 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
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1 unrevoked imho is more simple and more popular and tested
2 corect
3 you have to unroot
4 easier than rooting just download ruu file, run on your pc connected to phone and thats all. U will loose root+old rom+data+custom recovery image
BTW greetings to Egypt! Been there (HRG) at february and it was warm and nice

Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?
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1. Go with Unrevoked, it's safe and most commonly used method for rooting HTC Desires, check your Hboot version beforehand to see if it's compatible (it should be if you're on 2.1 eclair) and just make sure you read the guide properly first and nothing should go wrong
Rooting will not give you A2SD or A2SD+, you'll have to install a custom ROM to get those benefits (or wait for Froyo with its own Apps2SD function)
You also won't be able to flash themes as the stock ROM is odexed and won't support it, you'll need to flash a deodexed custom ROM for that.. although you can use apps like LauncherPro to customise your phone a little.
2. Yup, rooting doesn't mean you have to change the ROM, it just means you have the choice to through the additional Recovery program installed during rooting
3. You can apply the OTA froyo update, it'll unroot your phone though.. you could use Unrevoked again to get root afterwards
4. I would definitely recommend unrooting the phone if possible before running a warranty claim, I haven't had to do it but I've read it's relatively easy
5. All the launcher/home replacements should work fine with Sense, i've got LauncherPro/Sense/Launcher2 (vanilla android home) all working fine on mine, just install ClearDefaultsHome so you can choose which Home screen you want
The safe option is wait for the Froyo update, it'll give you Apps2SD.. but personally I'm glad I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, made the phone so much better! It to follow all the rooting/flashing tutorials properly then you should be fine, though obviously there are risks involved.. as you already know!

Well, thanks to ur replies guys .. i am now the proud owner of an htc desire! :d

[Q] Temproot via Visionary+ on 2.3.3 (the new OTA update)

Been trying to temp root a few installed HTC desire HD with the new OTA 2.3.3 update but during the temp root process the icon goes yellow then it just sits on a black screen (with just the task bar up on top showing) for 20+ mins. and root does not happen.
I tried this while connected via usb (with the app installed visionary+ v14) with usb developer mode on or what ever it's called .. even tried re-starting and re-trying to no avail.. did they "patch" it in the latest update?
*edit fixed typo from 2.2.3 to 2.3.3 =P

You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

nicoboum said:
You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you look in the development section you will find several ROM's that are very close to stock such as LeeDroid and there's even a one GB ROM that is has been rooted and pretty much nothing added.
There's no reason for you not to downgrade as you can upgrade again with a near as damn it customised GB ROM.

Revolution HD is great
I never tried any other rom (yes I'm an Android noob !), but I don't feel like it, i'm happy with Revolution.
It's exactly like stock, only smoother with better battery life and root.
I hesitated a long time before I installed a custom ROM on my DHD, waiting was a waste of time. Custom ROM are WAY better (in my opinion). Just remember to reade a lot of topics before, in order to know where you're going, what kind of problems you could face, and how to solve them. There's a lot of stuff and it all looks hard to get at first, but in the end it's not that hard.
Good luck, have fun
(I apologize for any english mistakes I could have made)

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you want your things backed up use Mybackup from the market. Also once you go down the rooting lane eventually you will install a custom ROM which is way better than stock. Try it for yourself and see the difference..

neijek said:
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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right now to get root for 2.3.3, u need to be downgrade first. anyway, in the dev corner, they have 2.3.3 stock but rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
that is for 2.3.3 but your thread title mention 2.2.3, so don't know its a typo or u still prefer running on Froyo

Current ROM
Install a current ROM

neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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before updating to the gingerbread u first have to do radio s-off. other wise u r unable to get root on it. i have installed leaked version for my phn. i also didnt know that, struggle hard to find and solve problem to dwngrade my phn. did it successfully, now i m running my phn with gingerbread fully root with gingearbreak 1.20 version.

thanks for all these amazing and quick replies ... I used to own a htc polaris and i always used custom roms.. my main issue is this, this is a company phone (it's mine.. but if there are ever issues with it i have a full warranty (even if i break it). Thus i wanted to achieve a temproot, just to freeze bloatware but not leave any "permanent" marks on the phone which if sent in for warranty would void it.
Eventually i will toss custom roms on it for sure, but since it's only 2 weeks out of the box i'd rather save it like this, at least for the first year.. if only there was a easy way to just freeze all that "crap" and not mod it with s-off or what not then i'd be so happy..
Unless s-off and such can be reverted and i can then work my way back .. but the problem is.. if i break it, and can't then "re-eable" s-on and so on and they see it they will not pay for the "fix" they are assses about it here in italy..

one of the main reasons i switched was for SIP calling (got a new data plan) .. if i go ahead with s-off / custom rom and all.. can I revert back in case i ever need to send it in for repair or .. does it leave traces?

I had the very same issue on my Desire HD 2.3

[Q] Motorola defy update and root

I have a motorola defy with android 2.1 eclair(2.1-update1). and motoblur version 2.21.0.MB525.Retail.en.GB. and its been a while since the 2.2 update is out. bt when i goto system updates in the settings menu and search for updates, i am told that no update is available. i wanna know y. and i dont know any other way to update my device. kindly show me how to update.
Another thing is that i thought of rooting my device but i didnt find any benefits for me to root.
I wanna know that if i root my device. will i loose motoblur? because i really like it. and if rooting can delete motoblur. if i unroot it, will i get motoblur back?
i am really lookin forward for help.
my cousin has a t-mobile version and he has successfully updated his device. and its faster and smoother than mine. so i really need help.
thanks

OTA update availability is dependent on your carrier, check the moto website for your region instead.
Root just enhances rights but won't delete motoblur or anything. If don't see a need to root, you don't need to root naturally.

CM7 still very smooth with a

cm7 is what and whys is it cool?
@abc_universal. thanks. i think i vl root tell me any easier way to root

CM7 is a custom rom that can be run on the Defy, it is very fast, and has a new feel. Look it up on youtube!
Root your device using SuperOneClick. Much easier.

if you feel there is no need to root, and happy with your ROM, then why root? no need to root just because the world roots their phone. if you feel that you need to maximise your phone potential, rooting is the way to go, but you gotta be more hardworking and learn up more about rooting and stuffs before doing it

cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?

hammadvenom said:
cm7 is snappy but there isnt any motoblur. so no contacts frm facebook. no facebook integration well i thnk i'll root first.
can someone tell me where to find superoneclick?
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Get facebook from other Apps.
The first google search result for "superoneclick" is just what you are looking for..

I waited for so long for the 2.2 update for the defy couldn't resist any longer so i updated to the SEA-15 couldn't be happier its nice and stable haven't had any troubles so far i have used the cm7 i loved that to but never could get the market i have installed gapps but still never showed.

yes, CM7 is far better than motoblur crap.
and it's gingerbread already.

do i need to root if want to install that cm7?
and where can i download the latest cm7?

first im sorry to post here, tried to create a new thread but it wouldnt let me cause im a "new user"
Hello everyone.......
I know there are many posts on this topic .. I've been reading whole night last night but I couldn't find the answer... tried so many things - Z4root, super 1 click root and etc. but I can't get my phone to root. In z4root it just goes back to home screen some time after I start the program and the phone is not rooted. In Superoneclick it says Failed at the end after being unable to push the busybox or whatever its name was.. I just updated my phone about a week or so ago cause I thought 22 is out.. instead I got this lazy update for 21 which now I see could be the reason the phone can't root. I should've rooted it earlier anyway here are my specs:
Sys Version Moto Version 2 51 1 MBM525 Retail en CEE
Firmware Version 2 1 update1
APflex Version GAS ASIA USAJORDANRTCEE P031
Anyone can offer a way to root that is reversible? I don't wanna root If I'm gonna be unable to unroot it later. It probably won't have problems with the root and after (when i make a backup) but my phone is only 6 months old and I have 1.5 yrs left warranty.. and I'm like 99% sure that if they see the phone is rooted they're gonna void my warranty. Again sorry for the duplicate thread but again I read so many threads and I couldn't find a way to root it.. also if you wanna know the reason I decided to root - ad-hoc. I just got a wireless adapter and realized android doesn't work with ad-hoc but then I saw that there is a fix.. still this fix requires rooted phone. ANd that's it

Well.. the easiest method is to update to 2.2 and then root with SuperOneClick. SHould work and is reversible. Plus, the 2.2 Update is getting rolled out anyway.
If you don't wanna update, you might want to give a full wipe a try.

I wanna update it's just that the 2.2 is not out yet for my phone. Still I tried with factory reset and still can't root.. I guess it's this update. I hope it's gonna be able to root at 2.2 update.. cause I don't wanna flash non-factory ROMs, just wanted to get root privileges.

Well.. it is available for your phone. You have a Defy.
For me, at last a fresh .sbf flash with RSD Lite solves every problem. But it is on your behalf, if you wanna flash a rom yourself or not.

Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/

S4nDr0 said:
Thing is I don't want to flash it I want a stock regular rom update from Motorola :/
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Me too bt 2.2 is only available for t mobile.

I have a Tmo Defy also and updated to the stock 2.2...
I personally rooted using GingerBreak.apk which was very easy to do and from there i downloaded Root Explorer and weeded out alot of the MotoBlur crap that was slowing down the phone...
Then i downloaded Milestone Overclock from the market and SetCPU and overclocked it to be running as a 1GHZ speed and after getting rid of the MotoBlur crap im easily getting 35 hours of battery life on one charge and it is sooo much quicker to respond to everything..
My answer to why root the phone is to make it the phone that it should be without the drag of all the other junk..
But thats just my opinion..

Changing the stock rom

Hi all.
I'm not a fan of the rom on my phone so I might end up rooting and going down the custom rom route eventually. For now, I wanted to know if its possible for me to change the stock rom on my handset without too much hassle? I got the One X second hand and it looks like the phones from somewhere in Asia so I've got a bunch of stock apps from out that way so I wanted to know if I could flash the phone with a UK or EU rom without breaking the phone?
.. and if so.. how?

Basically of comes down to this
Unlock the bootloader (this will reset the phone to stock)
Flash a custom recovery and make a NANDROID BACKUP RIGHT AWAY !
Push the superuser.zip from the recovery to the rom to gain root acces or flash a brand new custom rom
But befor you start you need to read up in here, all sorts of guides and also tools. Get to learn adb/fastboot commands. That's very important !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832891

Yeah I already know how to do all that, I've done a few different models but I generally wanted to know if I could just flash the current stock from with a stock from from the UK?
Im not too bothered for rooting and custom roms at the minute as some apps I use dont work with a rooted phone.

In that case....yes. pretty much all roms are based on the wwe software