[Q] Why should I s-off my desire? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I rooted my desire last week using unrevoked and I am currently using oxygen 2.1
What are the advantages of s-offing my phone?
I have a 16gb sd card with a 512mb partition which I did through rom manager.
Please go easy on me as I'm new to all this!
Cheers

I only started rooting and flashing new roms last week and did the s-off yesterday.
From what ive found info wise rooting gives a good amount of system access but there is still a lvl of system data that cant be changed unless u use Android Developer kit and use console commands(things like boot screens and where apps install either onto the phone or as optional apps on sd/or part of a2sd).
S-off releases the last lvl of security and allows you to even access the system files on the fly using apps like root explorer to swap app files etc.
S-off isnt really needed if all u want to do is flash roms etc
As a noob thats my way of seeing s-off hopefully a senior member can clarify or correct some of this.
Also http://alpharev.nl/ explains what s-off is at the top of his website

biggest advantage of S-OFF is ability to flash a custom hboot which changes tour partition layout. in effect you have more space for apps and ROM performs really fast, faster than any A2SD+ or DATA2XXX ROM
ofc the rom has to be designed to work with custom hboot.
i belive oxygen is

If I do the s-off do I need to delete the partition of my sd card or leave as it is?

if you have your SD card partitioned with fat32 and ext(for a2sd) then no u shouldnt need to do anything.
If you havent got a ext partition on your sd card yet id personally recommend making one just for roms that use a2sd.
As part of the s-off process though the sd card doesnt need to be touched
just make sure b4 u do s-off to make a backup using the recovery mode on the phone. Some roms can be corrupted after a s-off procedure(usually not booting properly) but using the recovery u can reapply the backup as the phone was before u did the s-off.

I have now s-offed the the phone, downloaded the PB99IMG file and renamed it PB99IMG.zip
I put the PB99IMG.zip file on my sd card but when I go in to Hboot (volume down + power) the file is not found.
Do I flash it like a rom by going in to recovery and "install zip from sd card"
Thanks in advance
Edit
the phone has now found the zip file file but it fails due to cid error

longster10 said:
I have now s-offed the the phone, downloaded the PB99IMG file and renamed it PB99IMG.zip
I put the PB99IMG.zip file on my sd card but when I go in to Hboot (volume down + power) the file is not found.
Do I flash it like a rom by going in to recovery and "install zip from sd card"
Thanks in advance
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I didnt bother with the optional updated hboots, unless your rom requires it I wouldnt worry about it.
was just looking at oxygen 2.1 thread and i got this
Do i need to be S-OFF or have Oxygen hboot? No, the rom will work S-ON and with any hboot layout. However the recommended set-up is S-OFF and Oxygen hboot (thanks TheGhost1233)
so dont worry about the optional hboot update
But if u want the hboot I found this might help
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/309298-err-incorrect-cid-s-off-device.html

I have give up on installing the oxygen hboot
When I try to install the zip file from sd card in recovery(holding volume down and power) I get the cid error and the sdk method is just way to complicated for me

Well, you can still use android flasher if the fastboot method is too complicated for you
Search for it in the Developement section.

davebugyi said:
Well, you can still use android flasher if the fastboot method is too complicated for you
Search for it in the Developement section.
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I have downloaded the Android flasher but the only instructions I can find are for flashing splash screens.
What mode should my phone be in to flash the oxygen hboot?
Cheers

I would do fastboot method if you are going to change the hboot, there is a very good thread with some extra instructions here:
http://www.oxygenrom.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=241&p=1746
Everything runs from internal memory so you can ditch all the complex partitioning work, and have a faster phone!

I ran the android flasher my hboot is
HBOOT-0.93.0001
does this mean it is done and if so what are the next steps?
Cheers

You can't use the pb99img method unless you're already s off. It is for s off people to switch hboots. For you, just download and burn the alpha rev iso onto a cd, reboot to cd, and follow instructions
Edit: just noticed that you are already s off.
Well then easiest way to switch hboot:
Reboot to fast boot (vol - and power button)
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
Is the format of the command from dos prompt.
If you haven't installed android sdk, you can't do that.
For pb99img method, ideally use a gold card or a card with only one partition, which is fat 32
double check the file name in windows.
It should be PB99IMG.zip
Don't change the case. Make sure that there isn't an additional .zip extension on it. Try renaming it by removing the .zip part. If windows still shows the zip file icon, that means you had an additional .zip in the file name
Swyped with my Starburst Classic based Desire with Intelligent Data2sd

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[Q] bootloop?

Htc desire bravo
Stock hboot rooted
Latest radio
S-Off ARev
Ext-3 (via ClockworkMod Recov Partition)
I have installed Pyramid Sense3 but on boot I stuck on AlphaRev's initial
'welcome' screen. Possibly it also reboots.
I have wiped and installed oxygen which works fine.
Any suggestions?
check the radio requirements and partition requirements
apart from that it's nothing really obvious so far?
Radio is latest and same with the one required by PyramidMod. Further to that nothing else obvious.
Just hangs in the welcome screen.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
"In order for this to work you need to use the above hboot (do not forget to check md5!!), if you don't know how to flash it using terminal or cmd, use android flasher or something..."
Did you do that? On the first post...
start a fresh, full wipes, check md5sums...
furthermore, most Sense 3.0 ROMs need an EXT partition on your SD-Card. Have you got that? Some even require specific ways in which the SD-Card is partitioned
BigMrB said:
"In order for this to work you need to use the above hboot (do not forget to check md5!!), if you don't know how to flash it using terminal or cmd, use android flasher or something..."
> I installed through hboot and ClockWorkMod Recov.
I am aware of installing through ie cmd. I will try and read about it.
The funny thing is that I had it installed. Then realised that my radio was old. I installed new radio used as it is for a few days and then decided to flash again.
>> Did you do that? On the first post...
I cant seem to find the first post
start a fresh, full wipes, check md5sums...
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>> BTW I have not yet understood the process of checking md5sums
Anyways thanks for your help, I dont want to hassle you more. If you have any idea let me know. For now I will do some closer reading and perhaps flash it through cmd as I did with my recovery update etc. Thanks again
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Htc desire bravo
Stock hboot rooted
Latest radio
S-Off ARev
Ext-3 (via ClockworkMod Recov Partition)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Download+MD5+Check+2.1+Free&l=1
MD5 provides a checksum for an arbitary file. It's just a string of characters like a long PIN code.
You can use it to guarantee that the file that's been downloaded is identical to the original, i.e. not corrupted on the way. So for any file that has an associated MD5 sum. You download the file and run a MD5 utility on that file on your system and check the MD5 value output against the original one.
Bootloop - I think you need a diff hboot ....
try flashing another rom, it MAY help
should swap size be zero.
Previously (with old rom) that it worked I had out of no idea had a swap part aswell.
Maybe not.
It shouldn't matter ... most important thing is that fat32 is 1st followed by your ext and swap on the end... I have 32mb swap but I see little difference between that and 0mb swap
Did you ever try installing the hboot from the second post?
It says you have to use it?
Instructions for install:
-Flash hboot
-Reboot into recovery
-You must wipe at least /data and /sd-ext
-Flash ROM
-Reboot and Enjoy (it takes ages on first boot, it has a lot of sutff to do)
Bootloop
Hi everyone. I find this thread most appropriate to post my problem.
I also have a bootloop problem, but mine is persistant.
I had MIUI rom, and after a few weeks decided to change it.
Phone was rooted with unrevoked3, sd card partitioned with gparted, radio 5.17.05.23, hboot 0.93.0001
After that I used AlphaRev CD to s-off.
Then I've flashed PyramidMod007 and it all went downhill from there. Phone just hanged at Joker logo, and I've tried backup (didn't help), reflashing other roms from SD card, and none of them worked.
I finally managed to restore the phone with RUU, and tried the whole process from scratch.
Root, S-OFF, Nand backup, Flash; same story, but this time i can't get it to work at all.
I don't know where to start now, what to do and what the heck am I doing wrong.
After all, I am but a nOOb.
Sorry for long post, and sorry for poor english.
Edit:
Damn thing works again
I pulled that one with PB99IMG.zip to SD again; bootloader and update, and it works like nothing happened :S
But then again, what should I do now. Should I go trough whole process again or what.
Anyone has any idea why is this happening.
What HBOOT do you have and what version are you trying to install?
What EXT size do you have?
There are 2 different versions of roms for stock and cm7 hboots. They have different ext requirements.
Double check that.
Optionally (recommended), you can change Recovery from CWM to Ra Desire or RMD (most recommended) and re partition your SD card. Maybe your version of CWM Recovery is not installing this rom properly (known problem with CWM).
Thanks for reply
hboot is 0.93.0001, and I'm trying to instal stock hboot version of PyramidMod.
EXT is 768MB ext4, ROM requires 512MB.
Problem seems to show up after S-OFF procedure, like there is something incompatible with rom and recovery, it just bootloops. I'll try to install RMD.
Can someone be kind enough and check if i'm doing it right. This is the plan:
Phone is stock now.
1. Root with unrevoked
2. S-OFF with alpharev
3. Sd partitioning with gparted (to 1GB ext4)
4. nand backup
5. flash rom
I think it is best to install RDM recovery and latest radio right after S-OFF procedure, am I right?
I would suspect the partitions or errors in scripts (CWM side fault only).
With RMD you can both repartition SD card witn ext alignment and flash rom as RMD is based on Ra Desire.
Try that.
Usually bootloops have connection with wrong formatting or errors in scripting (CWM side faults only).
Are you doing full wipe before flashing your rom?? Sometimes it's a key to success.
petkovic.nenad said:
Damn thing works again
I pulled that one with PB99IMG.zip to SD again; bootloader and update, and it works like nothing happened :S
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Hey, sorry to jump in, I'm having a similar problem, what did u do exactly on these steps with the above IMG to make it work?
kl_arnet said:
I would suspect the partitions or errors in scripts (CWM side fault only).
With RMD you can both repartition SD card witn ext alignment and flash rom as RMD is based on Ra Desire.
Try that.
Usually bootloops have connection with wrong formatting or errors in scripting (CWM side faults only).
Are you doing full wipe before flashing your rom?? Sometimes it's a key to success.
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Yes, full wipe.
I'll try to install RMD, repartition SD from recovery and reflash rom
Is this what you have in mind?
Thanks man
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patriotspid said:
Hey, sorry to jump in, I'm having a similar problem, what did u do exactly on these steps with the above IMG to make it work?
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So, you go here and download RUU that suits you most, if you don't know what software your phone came with.
Then, you run downloaded application and don't touch anything, and in temp folder look for rom.zip.
After you've found it copy file to desktop, and just click cancel on installer.
Rename rom.zip in PB99IMG.zip, put it on SD/root.
Go in bootloader menu and wait. After a minute or so, it will ask you do you want to apply/perform update. VolUp for yes, and wait. Make sure battery is good.
It worked for me, and hope it will work for you.
If there is something wrong with this method, I would like senior members to rectify me.
Petcovic,
Yes, flash RMD Recovery through fastboot and use it to partition your SD card.
Choose Ext partition(s) size and fat32 is taking the rest of card automatically.
Ext partitions are properly aligned.
RMD Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
How to flash?
You need to be S-OFF
put recovery.img into the same direcotory as fastboot.
Navigate in CMD to this directory and type:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
RMD supports up to 3 ext partitions.
Partitioning via RMD:
Code:
Partition SD card
Partition SD Card
First ext filesystem <ext4>
First Ext size <your size>
Second ext filesystem <none>
Second Ext size <0>
Third ext filesystem <none>
Third Ext size <0>
Write Configuration
Ignore using recovery to partition ... Use gparted or something you have more control... Did anyone flash the hboot link that it tells you to before flashing? ??
After trawling xda for weeks and reading about every issue under the sun, I'd say that most of the experienced xda members recommend using GParted to partition sd cards rather than other methods. GParted has always worked flawlessly for me.
@MigMrB
That's not very kind of you.
I had never problems with partitions formatting under Ra Desire or RMD.
Gparted is also OK. Just partitioning through those Recovery is optimized for Desire.
Both ways are OK. Even using MiniTool Partition Wizard under Windows is fine as long as you are familiar with partitions requirements layout.

[Q] help needed, hboot & sdcard problems

hi and thanks in advance for any help!
Had Cool3D AceS v2a and decided to upgrade it to v3 as i really liked this ROM
Had clockwork v5.0.0.2 recovery
Deleted all cache files
Partitioned SDcard with Gparted 1gb ext4 & 3gb fat 32
Copied new ROM to sdcard
clockwork would not see the ROM zip file to install
repartitioned & reformatted sdcard in clockwork
could not copy the rom to the SDcard
thought it may be clockwork prob so installed amon ra recovery
partitioned the sdcard (1024 ext2, then changed to ext3, then 4) & reformatted
did a full wipe
windows still could not copy the ROM to SDcard
reformated to just ext2
still cannot copy rom zip (windows wants to repair)
connected phone to ubuntu install
cannot copy ROM zip
thought it was a Hboot prob? but i cant flash hboot with cm7r2 or bravo_downgrade from alpharev (currently have cm7 hboot)
The phone now wont boot past the flash screen, i can still get into amon ra & pwr/vol - screen
Currant print from fastbootcommanderv5.1.5
............................................................
Operating system: Windows.
Tools folder found.
Windows fastboot tools found.
The folder containing the IMG files was not found.
No Nandroid folder was not found - "Restore" button disabled.
STARTING PRINT OF DEVICE INFO.
-----------------------------------.
SPL/hboot version: 0.93.1000.
Radio version: 5.11.05.27.
Main software version: 2.29.405.5.
cid: htc__001.
cpld: none.
product: bravo.
mid: pb9920000.
security: off.
build-mode: ship.
-----------------------------------.
Print of device info SUCCESSFUL.
-----------------------------------.
Flashing "hboot" - PLEASE WAIT.
"hboot" flash FAILURE.
-----------------------------------.
Flashing "hboot" - PLEASE WAIT.
"hboot" flash FAILURE.
Can anyone help/advise - please?
If you have another SD Card try with that, I also faced similar issue.
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First partition should be fat 32
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hi and thanks will buy another sdcard and try that - the card was formatted with the fat 32 partition first then the ext2/3/4 with amon ra (previously with gparted & clockwork)
I am still unsure why i can not flash hboot however and how that is linked to the SDcard? Tried flashing with the sdcard out too with the same error
The SDcard i am using is the stock 4gb one
thanks again
Excuse me if I overread it, but in your opening post I cannot find a step for going S-OFF. And so you cannot use fastboot, which means you cannot flash hboots.
I had S-off and indeed boot screen confirms S-off (BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF), do i need to reflash s-off again (I had it when I first installed aces v2a)
presumably theres a way to get s-off again via amon ra? as most guides I see require going into the installed ROM which i cannot. will try and look for a tut
thankyou
Your S-OFF status cannot be changed by flashing a rom or using any recovery.
Is your phone in fastboot mode when you flash hboot? Where is hboot image you want to flash stored?
ok have installed the ROM (Cool AceS v3)
I deleted all the partitions in ubuntu / gparted to 'unallocated space' (I actually used the live usb install avail here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ to achive this rather than the burn cd image as per step 5 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084&highlight=noob+guide ) This also alows use of latest gparted which comes with ubunto 11.04.
I then used the amon ra to partiton the sdcard with 1gb ext2 then change to ext3 then ext4 & no swap
I then copied the rom onto sdcard via the ubuntu live install.
removed the zip security check in amon ra
rebooted to recovery and installed the ROM - SUCCESS!!!
all is now working (and im loath to change anything) - however I do have a couple of questions.
looking at gparted now at the phone its all 'unallocated space' the ROM works fine however (shows 2.9gb on my 4gb stock SDcard) - is this normal for this ROM?
also is the partition information for the SDcard contained within the phones system (96mb unallocated space on phone when sdcard is removed)?
Should I re- S-off the ROM now I can?
thanks again for all the pointers and i hope this may help any others with SDCARD copy/format issues.
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MatDrOiD said:
Your S-OFF status cannot be changed by flashing a rom or using any recovery.
handy to know as i could not find any guide that does not require booting into an installed ROM
Is your phone in fastboot mode when you flash hboot? Where is hboot image you want to flash stored?
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yes i followed the guide for fastbootcommander here very carefully http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193915
I store the flash images on the desktop and load them as required into fastbootcommander by browsing for them and downloaded them from alpha-rev
thanks again
Why should you re-S-OFF your phone? All is working fine right now, isn't it?
vanticar said:
Should I re- S-off the ROM now I can?
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Wether you are S-OFF or S-ON has nothing to do with rom, it has to do with the bootloader. If this one is S-OFF, the rom also is it.
MatDrOiD said:
Why should you re-S-OFF your phone? All is working fine right now, isn't it?
Wether you are S-OFF or S-ON has nothing to do with rom, it has to do with the bootloader. If this one is S-OFF, the rom also is it.
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yes finally seems a fight between gparted/windows and ext4 partitions (seems windows7 doesnt like ext4 installed on sdcard as then it wants to fix the fat32 partition in order to copy files to it, if it fix's the fat 32 partition gparted then doesnt like it and ubuntu wont copy files)
I am on CM7 and was going to try CM7r2 (this ROM works on either apparently however)
for now thankfully it works though I have not tried flashing hboot
is there a relationship with hboot and the partition structure on the SDcard?
I cannot image in which way the desire's internal storage (hboot) should have something to with the partition of your sd card.

[Q] Oxygen rom question

Hi all. I've just rooted and s-offed my desire stock 2.2. using the revolutionary method and now I'd like to flash my first custom rom. I need a gingerbread based rom that'll give me speed and space for apps. I was thinking of oxygen because it seems quite simple to flash but now not so sure. Do I need to partition my sd card (16gb class 4) and/or do I need to change hboot to oxygen hboot ? Not really sure/confident enough to do this and would like to avoid it if possible. Would you guys recommend another rom that is even easier to flash, like redux, gingervillain, etc. Would be very happy if there's one rom (that would give me speed/space) that I just plonk the file to my sd card and flash it without having to tweak anything else. Not being lazy, just not confident yet, It only took a year to get the courage to finally root the phone . All advice greatly appreciated.
To get more space, you will always need to do something. Either change the partition layour of the NAND memory in the phone with a Hboot, or Partition your SD card. Simply flashing a ROM and nothing else will not give you more space.
Great answer, thanks, think I'll just partition the sd card through cwm. If I feel brave I might try installing oxygen hboot. One question, I already backed up my sd card to my computer, after I partition the sd card and go and transfer files back from computer to phone will the sd card appear on computer exactly the same as before (before partition) like external device (can't remember the exact word/name) or will it show different partitions. I'm just thinking ahead of where I should place the files from the computer to sd card after partition. Hope I explained it clearly.
You have to ensure that the ROM you want to flash fits in the Oxygen Hboot. You can easily flash new Hboots though.
I was the same as you and unsure about changing the hboot. However I took the plunge and did it using fastboot commander. It was really simple and took about 30 seconds. Now I have 174mb of used space and 113mb still free.
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3484jacks said:
Now I have 174mb of used space and 113mb still free.
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Don't get me started
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
Right...I'm confused again. I read that cm7 r2 hboot is compatible with oxygen, redux, cm7. Am i correct to think that I can flash this hboot by downloading the file from alpharev site PBIMGcm7_r2 and simply rename it to PB99IMG.zip. then put it in sd card, turn phone on (holding volume down) press on option fastboot, then will be automatically asked if I want to install update and presto, new cm7hboot, also can I do this before flashing any rom, I'm still on stock but rooted/s-offed revolutionary method.
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Right...I'm confused again. I read that cm7 r2 hboot is compatible with oxygen, redux, cm7.
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Correct. The reason is that Oxygen and Redux roms uses a smaller System partition space (100MB). CM7r2 hboot has a slightly bigger system partition (145MB) that is why Oxygen and Redux roms work because they fit. On Oxygen r2 hboot however, you wouldn't be able to flash CM7 rom simply because the System partition space required by the rom is larger.
If you are going to be flashing ROMs often, I would go with CM7r2 hboot since a lot of roms are compatible with this hboot.

[Q] Order of flashing

Ok first my apologies for starting another thread (there is some excellent information in the forum but i'm finding bits in different orders and i'm getting confused as to which one i need to do first)
Ok i'll start off by saying i have gingerbread right now on my desire it's currently rooted with s-off and clockwork recovery installed.
I'm going to be attempting to flash this lovely looking ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322921
Now i'm going to guess at the order in which i have to flash (or partition etc) things and hopefully i won't be too far from where i need to be..
1. Use Gparted to partition SD card
2. Do nandroid backup incase things go wrong
3. Flash Upgrade (downgrade?) Hboot to CM7 r2
4. Flash ROM
i hope thats the correct order - couple of questions have i got the order right or am i barking up the wrong tree? and what happens (the steps if possible) between flashing the Hboot and the ROM can both be done from clockwork?
last question i promise the ROM asks for "Bravo Hboot: CM7 R2/DATA++/BRAVO SENSE/N1 TABLE" i know cm7 r2 is the hboot i know what DATA++ does i know bravo sense is sense and i have no idea what N1 table is. From that section does it mean i have to do something extra or it just means cm7 r2 is required?
Thanks for any and all input
Mark
thats the right order the other are just a list of Hboots you can use, you have deceided on cm7 r2 so thats fine, I would use ext4 of 1GB or 1.5GB, smaller or larger can sometimes cause problems. Good luck, have fun
Thanks muchly Andy - can the Hboot and ROM both be done from clockwork or am i better off going for something automated like android flasher ?
warlordxxx said:
Thanks muchly Andy - can the Hboot and ROM both be done from clockwork or am i better off going for something automated like android flasher ?
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it can be confusing but hboot isnt flashed from recovery like a ROM. i haven't used it, but android flasher is supposed to make it very easy to flash hboots. if that doesnt work the safest way is through typing fastboot command lines.
the CM7 R2/DATA++/BRAVO SENSE/N1 TABLE bit is just different partition table sizes, you can see them on alpharev. basically the ROM must fit into the system partition (145MB in the case of cm7r2)
after you've done that, boot into recovery. make sure you do a full wipe (factory/data reset) before flashing the rom.
i know you've got your nandroid backup, but make sure you also have made a titanium backup of your apps and data to be able to restore afterwards. use 'sms backup and restore' for sms, and google for contacts.
You can flash Hboot from cwm just make sure you have the flashable zip and rename it, all instructions on http://alpharev.nl/ and agree titanium back up is good idea and full wipe is always good to do before trying new ROMs
Thanks Eddie from what i understand the Hboot comes in a pb99 img ready to boot (apart from renaming to zip) from fastboot mode as listed on the alpharev site
"3) Flash HBOOT with your phone in fastboot mode (Back+POWER) -> 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' (change into the correct filename for the HBOOT you downloaded)
4) 'fastboot reboot-bootloader'
5) 'fastboot erase cache'
6) Boot recovery, wipe everything and restore."
Not worried about the apps as i flashed the stock gingerbread and don't have much space for any that i actually want lol i have no sms that i want to keep and google for contacts is probably the only one i'll need
Thanks again
Mark
Cross post thanks again Andy
warlordxxx said:
Thanks Eddie from what i understand the Hboot comes in a pb99 img ready to boot (apart from renaming to zip) from fastboot mode as listed on the alpharev site
"3) Flash HBOOT with your phone in fastboot mode (Back+POWER) -> 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' (change into the correct filename for the HBOOT you downloaded)
4) 'fastboot reboot-bootloader'
5) 'fastboot erase cache'
6) Boot recovery, wipe everything and restore."
Not worried about the apps as i flashed the stock gingerbread and don't have much space for any that i actually want lol i have no sms that i want to keep and google for contacts is probably the only one i'll need
Thanks again
Mark
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yeh that's another way, i've just become used to typing in the commands as you've quoted from alpharev
looks like you're all set to go, good luck!
You can do it in ur phone also. download the correct PB99IMG file and remane it to PB99IMG.zip i.e. download the Data++ hboot and rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it to ur sd card root(/SD) and after the nandroid backup go to fastboot or bootloader from the recovery power menu or by pressing power+Volume down button for 3 seconds.
In the bootloader u will see a prompt that an update is found. Install it by the volume button and u r done. reboot into recovery and flash the rom.
What is ur hboot version anyway.
warlordxxx said:
Now i'm going to guess at the order in which i have to flash (or partition etc) things and hopefully i won't be too far from where i need to be..
1. Use Gparted to partition SD card
2. Do nandroid backup incase things go wrong
3. Flash Upgrade (downgrade?) Hboot to CM7 r2
4. Flash ROM
i hope thats the correct order - couple of questions have i got the order right or am i barking up the wrong tree? and what happens (the steps if possible) between flashing the Hboot and the ROM can both be done from clockwork?
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You don't say of you are using an ext partition at the moment..
If you do Step 1 then step 2, you might not be able to backup if you have just wiped your partition. I would suggest:
1) Nandroid backup
2) Copy new ROM to SD card
3) Copy all SD card data to laptop
4) Partition with Gparted
5) Copy all SD card data back to SD card (in card reader).
6) Flash New hboot through fastboot
7) Full wipe of all partitions except SD card (important after new hboot)!
8) Flash ROM
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You don't say of you are using an ext partition at the moment..
If you do Step 1 then step 2, you might not be able to backup if you have just wiped your partition. I would suggest:
1) Nandroid backup
2) Copy new ROM to SD card
3) Copy all SD card data to laptop
4) Partition with Gparted
5) Copy all SD card data back to SD card (in card reader).
6) Flash New hboot through fastboot
7) Full wipe of all partitions except SD card (important after new hboot)!
8) Flash ROM
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Thanks for the info i have an ext4 partition made through Gparted the nandroid backup worked fine afterwards as that's the order i did it in lol only made a couple of mistakes - flashed the hboot - wouldn't boot at all (it tried rebooting the phone itself and stuck on the HTC splash) it then wouldnt go into recovery so reflashed clockwork and then it was fine wiped caches and data installed ROM from zip from sd card - one thing i will say though is put your ROM on the SD card before flashing the new hboot as that would have made things a whole lot easier - had to pull the battery then the card copy over by usb adapter and put back in to flash it..
But important thing is it worked i now have a lovely new ROM lots of space for apps all my contacts back on... And i just wanted to say thanks for taking the time out to offer some help all of you it's very much appreciated

Help rookie to root HTC Desire

Hello evryone.I got the Desire today and I would very much like to do root on my phone.I'm a total novice about all this and I'd like to ask someone for help.When I go in the boot menu (volume down+power) i have this:
-Revolutionary
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYN0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
Aug 10 2010
HBOOT
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
Can someone suggest where to find a tutorial step by step how to do root on my phone because I'm a total beginner?
Thanks.
Well it looks like all the hard parts have been taken care of already. The rest is a piece of cake
Revolutionary was used to s-off, which probably means that you have a custom recovery install as well.
Use volume down while in the bootloader to scroll down to RECOVERY. Then use power to select it. When the recovery boots up you should have either cwm (clockworkmod) or 4ext recovery installed. Tell me which one you have so that i can give you some more guidance.
I'm afraid that nothing of what you have said I do not have.When I select a recovery nothing happens,On the next screen I see icon of phone on the middle of the screen and two circular arrow.One point down and another point up,and then red tringle with an exclamation point in the middle.I tried several times and always the same.Is this serious problem?
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I'm afraid that nothing of what you have said I do not have.When I select a recovery nothing happens,On the next screen I see icon of phone on the middle of the screen and two circular arrow.One point down and another point up,and then red tringle with an exclamation point in the middle.I tried several times and always the same.Is this serious problem?
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Then you need to flash a recovery. Either through fastboot, or through the PB99img method.
Fastboot implies installing fastboot, adb and hboot drivers on your PC, downloading the recovery.img, and then using the command "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img".
The PB99IMG.zip is a bit easier. Follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1751258
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Then you need to flash a recovery. Either through fastboot, or through the PB99img method.
Fastboot implies installing fastboot, adb and hboot drivers on your PC, downloading the recovery.img, and then using the command "fastboot flash recovery.img".
The PB99IMG.zip is a bit easier. Follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1751258
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Small correction there buddy, the command is
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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Small correction there buddy, the command is
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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Oops. Bah, I have been away for too long. Thanks
Thank you so much for the help.I've been busy these days so I have not had a chance to try what you suggested, but I will try tomorrow.f I understand correctly, I put PB99IMG.zip on the SD card,then go to bootloader menu(volume down+power) and run PB99IMG.zip.Then ask me if I want to update recovery, volume up for YES.When asko me if I want to reboot choose NO.Once its finished I have 4ext recovery and use volume buttons to navigate to recovery then press power button to enter recovery.And then what I have to do next?
You wrote to type this command
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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but I do not know where and when I need to write.
talicni67 said:
Thank you so much for the help.I've been busy these days so I have not had a chance to try what you suggested, but I will try tomorrow.f I understand correctly, I put PB99IMG.zip on the SD card,then go to bootloader menu(volume down+power) and run PB99IMG.zip.Then ask me if I want to update recovery, volume up for YES.When asko me if I want to reboot choose NO.Once its finished I have 4ext recovery and use volume buttons to navigate to recovery then press power button to enter recovery.And then what I have to do next?
You wrote to type this command but I do not know where and when I need to write.
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Yep, thats pretty much correct. You go into the bootloader, wait a couple seconds and it should find the PB99IMG.zip that you placed on the root of your sdcard automatically. Then you press volume up to confirm the install, and then reboot. Go back into the bootloader and select recovery and you should now have 4ext recovery.
Forget about the fastboot command. That is just another method of installing 4ext, but its a bit more work. Since youre using the PB99IMG method you dont have to do this.
Once youre in recovery you have a few options:
Boring option- You can simply flash a root zip which will give you root access on the stock rom
Fun option- You can pick out a custom rom from the development section and flash it. Custom roms come prerooted, and have so many other advantages over stock. (Performance, a2sd for gaining more space for apps, battery life, customization, etc.)
Thanks for the help.Can you recommend a good rom that will not slow down the phone?I read some posts that the Desire is weak to be launched ICS rom, and that the version 2.3.7 is best for Desire.Is this true or not?
talicni67 said:
Thanks for the help.Can you recommend a good rom that will not slow down the phone?I read some posts that the Desire is weak to be launched ICS rom, and that the version 2.3.7 is best for Desire.Is this true or not?
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Well anything over android 4+ wont run ideally on the desire.
My favorite stable rom is milwild's redux. You need to do a couple things before flashing to optimize your space usage. First create a 1GB ext4 partition using this guide. Then go here and download the PB99IMG_oxygenr2 zip. This is an hboot and will change the layout of the internal partition to maximize the amount of space for apps and app data. After youve downloaded it, rename it to PB99IMG.zip, and put it on the root of your sdcard. Then you go into the bootloader and install it the same way you did for 4ext. After that you go into 4ext, go to the wipe menu and choose "format all partitions (except sdcard)". Finally go to install zip from sdcard, select the rom i recommended above and flash it.
I have to admit that Gparted method for partitioning sd card somehow easiest for me.Again I have a few questions before I start my adventure installing milwild's redux ROM.
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After that you go into 4ext, go to the wipe menu and choose "format all partitions (except sdcard)"
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When formatting is complete, did I need to reboot the phone or not, or just continue to install ROM?
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Finally go to install zip from sdcard, select the rom i recommended above and flash it.
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Do I need to put milwild's redux ROM in the root of the Sd card same as 4EXT and flash it?
-When I select milwild's redux ROM is it enough to just mark it and click on it to install began, or has some other method?
talicni67 said:
- When formatting is complete, did I need to reboot the phone or not, or just continue to install ROM?
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Doesnt matter. I never reboot...just format and install right after.
talicni67 said:
- Do I need to put milwild's redux ROM in the root of the Sd card same as 4EXT and flash it?
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Doesnt matter where you put it on your sdcard. Once you go to the install menu, 4ext will allow you to browse the contents of your sdcard.
talicni67 said:
-When I select milwild's redux ROM is it enough to just mark it and click on it to install began, or has some other method?
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Yep, thats enough. Just browse to the zip, click on it, and click once again on the check mark to confirm the installation. The reboot and enjoy.
I did half the job, now the hard part remains.I installed 4EXT recovery and partitioned SD Card but not completely.I did everything like in the tutorial, but the internal memory is not increased.Here's a picture after finishing operations.
When I check the internal memory I have only 125MB.I repeated the operation three times, and the result is always the same.I Insert the CD with Gparted in the computer, boot and go to Gparted menu,delete SD Card and create first 6.4GB like fat32 primary partition.Then select second unalocated part of the SD card and create 1.1GB like ext4 primary partition.Complete operation and when i look into my SD card size is exactly same as in the Gparted (6.4GB) but internal memory is only 125MB.No idea what to do.
talicni67 said:
I did half the job, now the hard part remains.I installed 4EXT recovery and partitioned SD Card but not completely.I did everything like in the tutorial, but the internal memory is not increased.Here's a picture after finishing operations.
When I check the internal memory I have only 125MB.I repeated the operation three times, and the result is always the same.I Insert the CD with Gparted in the computer, boot and go to Gparted menu,delete SD Card and create first 6.4GB like fat32 primary partition.Then select second unalocated part of the SD card and create 1.1GB like ext4 primary partition.Complete operation and when i look into my SD card size is exactly same as in the Gparted (6.4GB) but internal memory is only 125MB.No idea what to do.
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The storage that it shows in settings will not show the space on your ext partition. But don't worry, its working. You can download an app such as titanium backup which will show you the amount of space on your ext partition. If you're skeptical, try installing a few apps from the play store. If you're not getting any low memory errors you are good to go.
You flashed then oxygen r2 hboot right?
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No, I'm not yet.I tried now to download some games from play store and got a message that I don't have enough space to do that
Do exactly the same as in video tutorial,and won't work.I'm going tomorrow to a one-week vacation.When I come back I'm gonna recorded the whole process with camerato see where I'm wrong.
talicni67 said:
No, I'm not yet.I tried now to download some games from play store and got a message that I don't have enough space to do that
Do exactly the same as in video tutorial,and won't work.I'm going tomorrow to a one-week vacation.When I come back I'm gonna recorded the whole process with camerato see where I'm wrong.
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Try partitioning with 4ext. Also you should really switch to oxygenr2 hboot...with stock hboot you are wasting a ton of space on the system partition.
I will ty with 4EXT and please tell me one more thing.When finishing with partition SD Card with 4ext what is next?To put PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip on SD Card and rename it to PB99IMG.zip and install it.Right?And after that put MildWild MW-9.5.zip ROM on SD Card, select it and install it and thats all or must do something more?
Forget to mention,installing PB99IMG.zip and MildWild MW-9.5.zip doing through recovery.Is that ok?
talicni67 said:
I will ty with 4EXT and please tell me one more thing.When finishing with partition SD Card with 4ext what is next?To put PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip on SD Card and rename it to PB99IMG.zip and install it.Right?And after that put MildWild MW-9.5.zip ROM on SD Card, select it and install it and thats all or must do something more?
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1. Partition sd with 4ext
2. Install the PB99IMG.zip using the bootloader (you DONT flash this with 4ext)
3. Go into 4ext > Wipe > format all partitions (except sdcard)
4. Install MildWild MW-9.5.zip
I have a big problem with partitioning SD Card.I tried through recovery 4ext and still not work.When I finish all process,these 1gb appears nowhere, still got 128MB internal memory.No matter what I do, or with gparted or 4ext always have 128mb of internal memory.Can I install MildWild MW-9.5.zip without expanding the internal memory?If not, can you explain to me how to do root to my phone?
talicni67 said:
I have a big problem with partitioning SD Card.I tried through recovery 4ext and still not work.When I finish all process,these 1gb appears nowhere, still got 128MB internal memory.No matter what I do, or with gparted or 4ext always have 128mb of internal memory.Can I install MildWild MW-9.5.zip without expanding the internal memory?
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You still don't understand what has been explained before
Your internal memory will not read 'internal + sd-ext' because that's just the way the script works.
As long as the sd-card has been correctly partitioned, the A2SD script should work automatically. (you probably didn't need to use 4EXT if you follow the gparted guide exactly, but doesn't matter now)
Keep apps on internal i.e. don't 'Move to SD', and it will trick the apps apks and dalvik cache to sd-ext. You internal memory (/data) will fill up with app data (e.g. just the saved games). Another way to check is to install another app like 'diskusage', it will allow you to browse your partitions.
What is limiting you is that you are still on stock hboot. You should change to OxygenR2 hboot as advised. Currently on stock hboot your /system size is 250MB, but you're using only around ~95MB, wasting over 150MB.
If you switch to OxygenR2 hboot, the system size is 100MB, you'll waste only 5MB, and the rest gets converted to extra internal memory...total 332MB instead of 147MB...i.e. more space for apps
You should now
-nandroid backup
-flash oxygenR2 hboot, either by PB99IMG.zip method as advised, or using fastboot (search for guides)
-reboot back into recovery, full wipe and nandroid restore.
If not, can you explain to me how to do root to my phone?
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You don't need to root your phone any more. Any custom ROM will already be rooted.

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