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I rooted my desire last week using unrevoked and I am currently using oxygen 2.1
What are the advantages of s-offing my phone?
I have a 16gb sd card with a 512mb partition which I did through rom manager.
Please go easy on me as I'm new to all this!
Cheers
I only started rooting and flashing new roms last week and did the s-off yesterday.
From what ive found info wise rooting gives a good amount of system access but there is still a lvl of system data that cant be changed unless u use Android Developer kit and use console commands(things like boot screens and where apps install either onto the phone or as optional apps on sd/or part of a2sd).
S-off releases the last lvl of security and allows you to even access the system files on the fly using apps like root explorer to swap app files etc.
S-off isnt really needed if all u want to do is flash roms etc
As a noob thats my way of seeing s-off hopefully a senior member can clarify or correct some of this.
Also http://alpharev.nl/ explains what s-off is at the top of his website
biggest advantage of S-OFF is ability to flash a custom hboot which changes tour partition layout. in effect you have more space for apps and ROM performs really fast, faster than any A2SD+ or DATA2XXX ROM
ofc the rom has to be designed to work with custom hboot.
i belive oxygen is
If I do the s-off do I need to delete the partition of my sd card or leave as it is?
if you have your SD card partitioned with fat32 and ext(for a2sd) then no u shouldnt need to do anything.
If you havent got a ext partition on your sd card yet id personally recommend making one just for roms that use a2sd.
As part of the s-off process though the sd card doesnt need to be touched
just make sure b4 u do s-off to make a backup using the recovery mode on the phone. Some roms can be corrupted after a s-off procedure(usually not booting properly) but using the recovery u can reapply the backup as the phone was before u did the s-off.
I have now s-offed the the phone, downloaded the PB99IMG file and renamed it PB99IMG.zip
I put the PB99IMG.zip file on my sd card but when I go in to Hboot (volume down + power) the file is not found.
Do I flash it like a rom by going in to recovery and "install zip from sd card"
Thanks in advance
Edit
the phone has now found the zip file file but it fails due to cid error
longster10 said:
I have now s-offed the the phone, downloaded the PB99IMG file and renamed it PB99IMG.zip
I put the PB99IMG.zip file on my sd card but when I go in to Hboot (volume down + power) the file is not found.
Do I flash it like a rom by going in to recovery and "install zip from sd card"
Thanks in advance
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I didnt bother with the optional updated hboots, unless your rom requires it I wouldnt worry about it.
was just looking at oxygen 2.1 thread and i got this
Do i need to be S-OFF or have Oxygen hboot? No, the rom will work S-ON and with any hboot layout. However the recommended set-up is S-OFF and Oxygen hboot (thanks TheGhost1233)
so dont worry about the optional hboot update
But if u want the hboot I found this might help
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/309298-err-incorrect-cid-s-off-device.html
I have give up on installing the oxygen hboot
When I try to install the zip file from sd card in recovery(holding volume down and power) I get the cid error and the sdk method is just way to complicated for me
Well, you can still use android flasher if the fastboot method is too complicated for you
Search for it in the Developement section.
davebugyi said:
Well, you can still use android flasher if the fastboot method is too complicated for you
Search for it in the Developement section.
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I have downloaded the Android flasher but the only instructions I can find are for flashing splash screens.
What mode should my phone be in to flash the oxygen hboot?
Cheers
I would do fastboot method if you are going to change the hboot, there is a very good thread with some extra instructions here:
http://www.oxygenrom.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=241&p=1746
Everything runs from internal memory so you can ditch all the complex partitioning work, and have a faster phone!
I ran the android flasher my hboot is
HBOOT-0.93.0001
does this mean it is done and if so what are the next steps?
Cheers
You can't use the pb99img method unless you're already s off. It is for s off people to switch hboots. For you, just download and burn the alpha rev iso onto a cd, reboot to cd, and follow instructions
Edit: just noticed that you are already s off.
Well then easiest way to switch hboot:
Reboot to fast boot (vol - and power button)
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
Is the format of the command from dos prompt.
If you haven't installed android sdk, you can't do that.
For pb99img method, ideally use a gold card or a card with only one partition, which is fat 32
double check the file name in windows.
It should be PB99IMG.zip
Don't change the case. Make sure that there isn't an additional .zip extension on it. Try renaming it by removing the .zip part. If windows still shows the zip file icon, that means you had an additional .zip in the file name
Swyped with my Starburst Classic based Desire with Intelligent Data2sd
Htc desire bravo
Stock hboot rooted
Latest radio
S-Off ARev
Ext-3 (via ClockworkMod Recov Partition)
I have installed Pyramid Sense3 but on boot I stuck on AlphaRev's initial
'welcome' screen. Possibly it also reboots.
I have wiped and installed oxygen which works fine.
Any suggestions?
check the radio requirements and partition requirements
apart from that it's nothing really obvious so far?
Radio is latest and same with the one required by PyramidMod. Further to that nothing else obvious.
Just hangs in the welcome screen.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
"In order for this to work you need to use the above hboot (do not forget to check md5!!), if you don't know how to flash it using terminal or cmd, use android flasher or something..."
Did you do that? On the first post...
start a fresh, full wipes, check md5sums...
furthermore, most Sense 3.0 ROMs need an EXT partition on your SD-Card. Have you got that? Some even require specific ways in which the SD-Card is partitioned
BigMrB said:
"In order for this to work you need to use the above hboot (do not forget to check md5!!), if you don't know how to flash it using terminal or cmd, use android flasher or something..."
> I installed through hboot and ClockWorkMod Recov.
I am aware of installing through ie cmd. I will try and read about it.
The funny thing is that I had it installed. Then realised that my radio was old. I installed new radio used as it is for a few days and then decided to flash again.
>> Did you do that? On the first post...
I cant seem to find the first post
start a fresh, full wipes, check md5sums...
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>> BTW I have not yet understood the process of checking md5sums
Anyways thanks for your help, I dont want to hassle you more. If you have any idea let me know. For now I will do some closer reading and perhaps flash it through cmd as I did with my recovery update etc. Thanks again
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Htc desire bravo
Stock hboot rooted
Latest radio
S-Off ARev
Ext-3 (via ClockworkMod Recov Partition)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Download+MD5+Check+2.1+Free&l=1
MD5 provides a checksum for an arbitary file. It's just a string of characters like a long PIN code.
You can use it to guarantee that the file that's been downloaded is identical to the original, i.e. not corrupted on the way. So for any file that has an associated MD5 sum. You download the file and run a MD5 utility on that file on your system and check the MD5 value output against the original one.
Bootloop - I think you need a diff hboot ....
try flashing another rom, it MAY help
should swap size be zero.
Previously (with old rom) that it worked I had out of no idea had a swap part aswell.
Maybe not.
It shouldn't matter ... most important thing is that fat32 is 1st followed by your ext and swap on the end... I have 32mb swap but I see little difference between that and 0mb swap
Did you ever try installing the hboot from the second post?
It says you have to use it?
Instructions for install:
-Flash hboot
-Reboot into recovery
-You must wipe at least /data and /sd-ext
-Flash ROM
-Reboot and Enjoy (it takes ages on first boot, it has a lot of sutff to do)
Bootloop
Hi everyone. I find this thread most appropriate to post my problem.
I also have a bootloop problem, but mine is persistant.
I had MIUI rom, and after a few weeks decided to change it.
Phone was rooted with unrevoked3, sd card partitioned with gparted, radio 5.17.05.23, hboot 0.93.0001
After that I used AlphaRev CD to s-off.
Then I've flashed PyramidMod007 and it all went downhill from there. Phone just hanged at Joker logo, and I've tried backup (didn't help), reflashing other roms from SD card, and none of them worked.
I finally managed to restore the phone with RUU, and tried the whole process from scratch.
Root, S-OFF, Nand backup, Flash; same story, but this time i can't get it to work at all.
I don't know where to start now, what to do and what the heck am I doing wrong.
After all, I am but a nOOb.
Sorry for long post, and sorry for poor english.
Edit:
Damn thing works again
I pulled that one with PB99IMG.zip to SD again; bootloader and update, and it works like nothing happened :S
But then again, what should I do now. Should I go trough whole process again or what.
Anyone has any idea why is this happening.
What HBOOT do you have and what version are you trying to install?
What EXT size do you have?
There are 2 different versions of roms for stock and cm7 hboots. They have different ext requirements.
Double check that.
Optionally (recommended), you can change Recovery from CWM to Ra Desire or RMD (most recommended) and re partition your SD card. Maybe your version of CWM Recovery is not installing this rom properly (known problem with CWM).
Thanks for reply
hboot is 0.93.0001, and I'm trying to instal stock hboot version of PyramidMod.
EXT is 768MB ext4, ROM requires 512MB.
Problem seems to show up after S-OFF procedure, like there is something incompatible with rom and recovery, it just bootloops. I'll try to install RMD.
Can someone be kind enough and check if i'm doing it right. This is the plan:
Phone is stock now.
1. Root with unrevoked
2. S-OFF with alpharev
3. Sd partitioning with gparted (to 1GB ext4)
4. nand backup
5. flash rom
I think it is best to install RDM recovery and latest radio right after S-OFF procedure, am I right?
I would suspect the partitions or errors in scripts (CWM side fault only).
With RMD you can both repartition SD card witn ext alignment and flash rom as RMD is based on Ra Desire.
Try that.
Usually bootloops have connection with wrong formatting or errors in scripting (CWM side faults only).
Are you doing full wipe before flashing your rom?? Sometimes it's a key to success.
petkovic.nenad said:
Damn thing works again
I pulled that one with PB99IMG.zip to SD again; bootloader and update, and it works like nothing happened :S
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Hey, sorry to jump in, I'm having a similar problem, what did u do exactly on these steps with the above IMG to make it work?
kl_arnet said:
I would suspect the partitions or errors in scripts (CWM side fault only).
With RMD you can both repartition SD card witn ext alignment and flash rom as RMD is based on Ra Desire.
Try that.
Usually bootloops have connection with wrong formatting or errors in scripting (CWM side faults only).
Are you doing full wipe before flashing your rom?? Sometimes it's a key to success.
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Yes, full wipe.
I'll try to install RMD, repartition SD from recovery and reflash rom
Is this what you have in mind?
Thanks man
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patriotspid said:
Hey, sorry to jump in, I'm having a similar problem, what did u do exactly on these steps with the above IMG to make it work?
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So, you go here and download RUU that suits you most, if you don't know what software your phone came with.
Then, you run downloaded application and don't touch anything, and in temp folder look for rom.zip.
After you've found it copy file to desktop, and just click cancel on installer.
Rename rom.zip in PB99IMG.zip, put it on SD/root.
Go in bootloader menu and wait. After a minute or so, it will ask you do you want to apply/perform update. VolUp for yes, and wait. Make sure battery is good.
It worked for me, and hope it will work for you.
If there is something wrong with this method, I would like senior members to rectify me.
Petcovic,
Yes, flash RMD Recovery through fastboot and use it to partition your SD card.
Choose Ext partition(s) size and fat32 is taking the rest of card automatically.
Ext partitions are properly aligned.
RMD Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
How to flash?
You need to be S-OFF
put recovery.img into the same direcotory as fastboot.
Navigate in CMD to this directory and type:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
RMD supports up to 3 ext partitions.
Partitioning via RMD:
Code:
Partition SD card
Partition SD Card
First ext filesystem <ext4>
First Ext size <your size>
Second ext filesystem <none>
Second Ext size <0>
Third ext filesystem <none>
Third Ext size <0>
Write Configuration
Ignore using recovery to partition ... Use gparted or something you have more control... Did anyone flash the hboot link that it tells you to before flashing? ??
After trawling xda for weeks and reading about every issue under the sun, I'd say that most of the experienced xda members recommend using GParted to partition sd cards rather than other methods. GParted has always worked flawlessly for me.
@MigMrB
That's not very kind of you.
I had never problems with partitions formatting under Ra Desire or RMD.
Gparted is also OK. Just partitioning through those Recovery is optimized for Desire.
Both ways are OK. Even using MiniTool Partition Wizard under Windows is fine as long as you are familiar with partitions requirements layout.
Hi!
I got some question related to Partition SD card.
Running RCMix S v2.0 CM7
Right now i have 6.42 Gb fat32 and 1Gb Ext 3.
I partition this using CWM-Alpharev recovery 2.5.1.8
When i try to use Gparted to partition to Ext 4 while am on Rcmi. The rom wont able to read the sd and it restart. After it got stuck at "why so serious" screen so i pulled battery out and get into recovery to flash the rom again. Thats when i ran you another problem i get cant mount error. "E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0) (No such file or directory) E: Can't mount SDCARD:" I has tried all the usb fix thing but no luck. The only way i fixed it turn it back to 1 Gb Ext 3 partition.
My question is!
Is there a a way to partition to Ext 4? and is Ext 4 better than Ext 3. Can i stay with Ext 3 since the ROM am using a2sd doesn't work since i keep getting Low on internal storage.
Also, I cant make gold card since i cant put new sd card in phone. The phone wont boot up after it get stuck at "why so serious."
hi try to flash different recovery and format (not wipe) all partitions and flash it again... at the moment im using 4ext recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154221
or RMD recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137763
what hboot you using?
Does RcMixS boots if you are using ext3? If yes, stick with it. Ext4 is just faster than ext3, but you should not get any problems. RcMixS requires only an ext partition, not a special type.
Hboot-0.93.0001
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
Radio-4.08.00.09
and yes RcMixs work fine with ext3 and that only ext that work with the recovery.
It is safe to flash new recovery?
It depdends. Are you S-OFF? If, then yes. If not, then no.
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
It said it off so that mean it safe?
And if it is. How can i flash new recovery?
If you how what you do when using fastboot and check the md5 after downloading the recovery.img, I would say: Yes, it's save.
Flashing new recovery via fastboot is very easy:
1.) Download the recovery you want. In my opinion 4EXTRecovery and RMD Recovery are currently the best ones.
2.) After downloading, check the md5!
3.) Install adb on your computer. An installation can be found in my signature.
4.) Boot your phone into fastboot mode (Turn it off, press and hold back and power button a few seconds until a white screen with FASTBOOT in red highlighted letters appears).
5.) Connect your phone to your computer via USB (FASTBOOT should change to FASTBOOT USB).
6.) Open cmd in computer (I assume you are using windows) and enter
Code:
fastboot devices
The output should say
HT********** fastboot devices. The **** are placeholders for numbers. If you get this output, fastboot sees your phone.
7.) Now type
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
to delete the recovery.
8.) When finished, type
Code:
fastboot flash recovery C:\recovery.img
I assume the recovery image you want to flash is stored on partition C: and named recovery.img.
9.) You are done.
Thanks you so much. It worked. I got a another questions. It regard of updating radio. My current radio version is 4.08.00.09. It is important to update to latest version or am fine at current radio?
You only really need to update your radio if there are problems. So if you really need to update your radio, make sure your hboot has >40 mb on cache partition. Otherwise, it will fail and can cause big problems. But mostly nothings happens. So if you have a /cache partition with <40 mb, you have to flash radio via fastboot. A guide can be found here on xda.
Do you know how to check if hboot have more than 40 mb or less on cache partition?
There no problem right now. I just want to know just in case later in future something wrong, and i know what to do.
And thank you very much for helping out.
Download quick system info pro from market.
SwiftKeyed from dGB using Transparent XDA App
One last question. Sorry for so many questions.
Do you know how make goldcard? I tried to make one following instructions on web but it said i need put spare SD card in phone and boot up but the thing is the current rom am using. Which is RCmix 2.0 it need sd ext to boot up or phone will get stuck at S-OFF screen.
Creating a goldcard is very easy:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/308798-pc-application-goldcardtool/
Put the microSD card in your device and boot it.
That part i got stuck at. The thing is went i put a new sd card in phone and boot up. It wont boot into the phone just get stuck at the splash screen. Like i said before. I believe the rom am currently using (RCmix 2.0) need sd-ext to run.
Overread that, my bad. You are right, RcMixS needs ext partition to boot up. Configure your sd card appropriate.
What do you mean configure my sd card? You mean to make my spare sd fat 32 and ext 3 but dont i need copy the content from ext 3 on my other sd card to the spare one?
Configure=partition. I thought you were not be able to start the rom? So there won't be any data on sd-ext because this partition is only for apps. All other content have to be copied to FAT32 partition.
Ok ill try that then. Does it matter if there contents and ext 3 partition in sd card while make a goldcard?
Partitioning a card will break gold as it rewrites the boot of the card, where the goldcard.img is. Although I haven't tried it myself, I believe creating a gold card after partitioning should be fine.
Well that what i mean partition so phone boot up and create the phone. Can i also make one using Sd card reader to make goldcard rather than put sd card in phone and make it there?
Hi guys,
I've just formatted my 2gb SD card for my HTC desire using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. I've made 450mb as FAT (primary) and the rest as ext4 (logical). For some reason, my rom (MIUI_Au-Desire-1.10.8) doesn't think there's an SD card in the phone. I've tried taking the card in and out, same thing.
I've since re-formatted it to Fat32 and ext4 with the same thing. It isn't showing up.
When I go into recovery and mount the USB there no USB storage comes up on my PC. When I try to select 'mount SD card' I get an error saying
Error mounting SDCARD:!
E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1)
(invalid argument)
I've got clockworkMOD Recovery v2.5.0.7 and I've tried putting ext4recoveryupdater but when I've tried installing it through Androidflasher.exe it says I need an ENG Bootloader.
I'm completely stuck and don't know what to do. I started all this because I wanted to install Runny ROM v5.1 and Runnymede_AIO_V6.0.4.3_Special_Edition, but once I ran the aroma installer, it basically frooze at the boot logo. So I figured I needed a larger ext4 partition.
So yea, any help on this would be GREAT. I'm starring at this post for replies on where to start from scratch.
Thanks for reading,
Raddest
edit: oh yea, so the only way I can 'see' the SD card is when I select 'mount USB' from the recovery.
Are you s-off?
Have you followed the guides on here to get s-off?
Just when you say you got CWM is it installed or you've got the .img for androidflasher? As aroma wont work with a non touch based recovery.
4extrecoveryupdater should be a apk and cannot be flashed by androidflasher, its meant to be installed on a rooted s-off phone.
I recommend reading the guides again and getting s-off, then installing 4ext recovery updater to get the 4ext touch based recovery; and using that recovery to partition your SD card
Edit: sorry if you've got CWM installed then all you need to do is get a 4ext touch based recovery .img and flash it with android flasher. I remember that they're a bit harder to find on the website.
The error message is probably from you trying to flash a .apk instead of a .img file
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Yep, I'm currently working on getting S-Off as my phone's S-On.
I've used the ext4 apk, but when it downloads and tries to flash the recovery from my rom it doesn't work. No matter what. So when it doesn't work it stores 2012-03-15-22.03_recovery.img onto my SD card (when the SD card worked).
So now I think I should concentrate on getting s-off. If I get s-off. But how will I install ext4 from my rom if I can't load my SD card?
edit: formatted the whole card to primary fat32. So if I get s-off and run ext4recovery will it flash the recovery fine?
edit 2 (just read your edit) I've already used androidflasher to try and put that 4ext img as the recovery, it says I need an ENG bootloader (or HBOT I can't remember).
No, you also need to be rooted to install a recovery from the app.
So either get root, or push the .img file from androidflasher once it fails from the app. And is on the sd card transfer it to your pc.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Yep, I've already installed the .img from ext4, android flasher says I need an ENG bootloader.
Yeah just get s-off and you should be fine.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Cool thanks. I'm just looking to see if there's a simple way to get S-off.
Using revolutionary.io
http://revolutionary.io/
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Yep, trying it. Says it's incompatible with this version of HTC Sync
If all works remember to backup your current rom with 4ext before flashing
Best of luck
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
I'm gonna un-install HTC Sync from my computer, restart, and see how it goes.
edit: just exited and un-installed (haven't restarted) and getting this;
=============================================
| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
=============================================
Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Desire (bravo-0.83.0001, Android: 2.3.5, ROM version: 2.1
0.405.2)
Your device: bravo, with HBOOT 0.83.0001 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
edit: I'm gonna try to install an RUU with a hboot 0.80.0000
Ok, basically burnt Alpharev to a CD, booted from the CD and used that. I got S-off fine, no problems at all. After that, booted back into miui and flashed the recovery using ext4. From ext4 I partitioned my SD card to have 800mb FAT32 and the rest ext4. Installing Runny AIO. See how I go...
All good, with alpharev to thank mainly. Was really made easy.
Hi all. This is my first post so if it’s in the wrong section or anything please let me know!
So, my contract (finally) ran out with Orange UK and I bit the bullet and rooted my HTC Desire. I was a complete noob to it when I started so I followed what seemed to be the easiest method. I used the Revolutionary method and installed Clockworkmod as it offers at the end of the process. Then I installed the rooted version of stock Gingerbread (2.3.3).
For the sake of clarity, here’s all the info of my phone as it stands:
Model Number: HTC Desire A8181
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.10-g3f43272
[email protected] #1
Tue Jun 14 21:11:23 CST 2011
Build Number: 3.14.405.1 CL96875 release-keys
Software Number: 3.14.405.1
Browser Version: WebKit/533.1
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL: SYNW0101
RADIO: 5.17.05.23
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
RECOVERY: Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
My question is where to go now. The main reason I rooted (I guess as with most Desire owners) was so I could gain more storage space. I’ve read about repartitioning the SD card which I will probably go for in the long run, but I wanted to try flashing a custom ROM first just to get a feel for things. Would flashing a custom ROM free up some memory in itself, due to losing the HTC stock apps and sense UI, etc?
Can anyone recommend a light ROM that would work with the version of HBOOT and CWM I have? I’ve looked at Oxygen which is supposed to be a very light Gingerbread based ROM? Does flashing a ROM require me to format my SD card or factory reset first, etc?
Any recommendations and pointers toward the process involved would be great!
greenstarthree said:
Hi all. This is my first post so if it’s in the wrong section or anything please let me know!
So, my contract (finally) ran out with Orange UK and I bit the bullet and rooted my HTC Desire. I was a complete noob to it when I started so I followed what seemed to be the easiest method. I used the Revolutionary method and installed Clockworkmod as it offers at the end of the process. Then I installed the rooted version of stock Gingerbread (2.3.3).
For the sake of clarity, here’s all the info of my phone as it stands:
Model Number: HTC Desire A8181
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.10-g3f43272
[email protected] #1
Tue Jun 14 21:11:23 CST 2011
Build Number: 3.14.405.1 CL96875 release-keys
Software Number: 3.14.405.1
Browser Version: WebKit/533.1
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL: SYNW0101
RADIO: 5.17.05.23
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
RECOVERY: Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
My question is where to go now. The main reason I rooted (I guess as with most Desire owners) was so I could gain more storage space. I’ve read about repartitioning the SD card which I will probably go for in the long run, but I wanted to try flashing a custom ROM first just to get a feel for things. Would flashing a custom ROM free up some memory in itself, due to losing the HTC stock apps and sense UI, etc?
Can anyone recommend a light ROM that would work with the version of HBOOT and CWM I have? I’ve looked at Oxygen which is supposed to be a very light Gingerbread based ROM? Does flashing a ROM require me to format my SD card or factory reset first, etc?
Any recommendations and pointers toward the process involved would be great!
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Install 4ext recovery. (4ext.net)
Partition your sd-card (Back it up first) 1gb ext, and skip the rest.
Install a rom that uses any a2sd type script.
Or install mounts2sd, and enable stuff from terminal.
Light roms: Mildwild, Cyanogenmod 7, Redux
To flash a rom: Factory data reset +Wipe cache+ wipe dalvik cache
No need to wipe sd-card.
Installing above ROM's is not a best idea with Stock HBOOT which you have.
To use them flash a cm7r2 hboot or look for something else. (or you'll just waste loads of internal memory)
Try this one for example if you interested in Sense 2.1/3.0 (A2SD version for your hboot, make sure you partitioned your SD with 4ext recovery) - http://revolutionrom.com/
Do some reading ADB/Fastboot guides, once you'll understand flashing hboots it's a cake, takes like 10secs and you're setup for any ROM's out there.
Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
So if I understand it right, I'd need to flash the HBOOT to use a ROM such as Cyanogenmod (but could use my current Clockworkmod recovery), but to use Revolution ROM, I have to flash to 4EXT Recovery and partition the SD?
Would I flash 4EXT recovery first (with my stock HBOOT and ROM), then partition the SD card, then install Revolution ROM?
You can do that.
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greenstarthree said:
Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
So if I understand it right, I'd need to flash the HBOOT to use a ROM such as Cyanogenmod (but could use my current Clockworkmod recovery), but to use Revolution ROM, I have to flash to 4EXT Recovery and partition the SD?
Would I flash 4EXT recovery first (with my stock HBOOT and ROM), then partition the SD card, then install Revolution ROM?
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#1 If you wont flash required hboot, it will work too but you'll waste about 150Mb internal memory in this case.
#2 4ext is not requirement for anything, it's just better recovery and you can partition SD card with it. (partitioning in CWM usually doesn't work properly)
Ok, I think (since I would in the long run anyway) ill try flash 4ext recovery and then give the Revolution ROM a go.
However I just turned on my PC to find my graphics card has died so apologies if my replies are erratic!
In the meantime, does 4ext recovery partition the SD card from the recovery on the phone itself? Does it format the SD in the process?
Thanks again
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greenstarthree said:
Ok, I think (since I would in the long run anyway) ill try flash 4ext recovery and then give the Revolution ROM a go.
However I just turned on my PC to find my graphics card has died so apologies if my replies are erratic!
In the meantime, does 4ext recovery partition the SD card from the recovery on the phone itself? Does it format the SD in the process?
Thanks again
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Yes, partitioning happens from the recovery, and yes, data on the sd card will be lost since it's being reformatted. Also, if you flash a new ROM, your apps will be gone, so it's mainly a good idea to back them up with an app such as Titanium Backup or MyBackup and restore them to your new rom.
And dont forget to make a Nandroid backup in recovery before u start flashing anything.
Then copy it to ur computer before u format the sd card.
R.ik said:
Yes, partitioning happens from the recovery, and yes, data on the sd card will be lost since it's being reformatted. Also, if you flash a new ROM, your apps will be gone, so it's mainly a good idea to back them up with an app such as Titanium Backup or MyBackup and restore them to your new rom.
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You can choose to not format FAT (windows) partition, in that case your data on the sd card will be untouched. (but you should backup it anyways, just in case)
Also you dont need to "flash" 4ext recovery, you just download the 4ext application and it will do the rest.
k3lcior said:
You can choose to not format FAT (windows) partition, in that case your data on the sd card will be untouched. (but you should backup it anyways, just in case)
Also you dont need to "flash" 4ext recovery, you just download the 4ext application and it will do the rest.
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Hmm... I downloaded the 4Ext Recovery.apk and tried to use it, but when I hit "Online Install/Upgrade" I get a message saying BusyBox could not be found. So I downloaded BusyBox from the market and tried again, same message.
I opened the BusyBox app and it gives me a message that it was denied SuperUser access, even though I set the "default action" in SuperUser to Allow.
I'm using SuperUser version 3.1.3 (46) and su binary v3.1.1 (17), both of which are as far as i can tell the latest?
Thanks!
open the superuser app and change the permission for busybox from denied to allowed, see if that works
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Got there in the end!
I did some uninstalling / reinstalling but what seemed to work was setting Super User's default action to "Prompt", then clicking allow at the time the app requested access. Perhaps something was wrong with SuperUser's auto allow setting. In any case I Smart Installed BusyBox and then installed 4Ext, ran the flash from the app and all fine.
So, my next step would be to make a full backup from withing 4Ext recovery (is that what's called a 'nandroid' backup?), plus copy the contents of my SD card to a PC for safe keeping, before I look at partitioning the SD?
With regards to formatting the SD, I don't have all that many apps installed (I couldn't because of low internal memory!) so I'm up for formatting it if that would work better?
What I'm not sure about is, if I partition and format the SD card, presumably that will stop me booting into my current ROM? If I manage to partition successfully, would I then switch the phone off, put the SD card in my PC, copy the Revolution ROM zip file to the root of the SD, boot back into recovery and install the ROM?
Sorry for being a rambling noob!
Thanks again,
greenstarthree said:
Got there in the end!
I did some uninstalling / reinstalling but what seemed to work was setting Super User's default action to "Prompt", then clicking allow at the time the app requested access. Perhaps something was wrong with SuperUser's auto allow setting. In any case I Smart Installed BusyBox and then installed 4Ext, ran the flash from the app and all fine.
So, my next step would be to make a full backup from withing 4Ext recovery (is that what's called a 'nandroid' backup?), plus copy the contents of my SD card to a PC for safe keeping, before I look at partitioning the SD?
With regards to formatting the SD, I don't have all that many apps installed (I couldn't because of low internal memory!) so I'm up for formatting it if that would work better?
What I'm not sure about is, if I partition and format the SD card, presumably that will stop me booting into my current ROM? If I manage to partition successfully, would I then switch the phone off, put the SD card in my PC, copy the Revolution ROM zip file to the root of the SD, boot back into recovery and install the ROM?
Sorry for being a rambling noob!
Thanks again,
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Just install 4ext, nandroid backup, backup sd content to hdd, partition it with 1GB ext3 or ext4 (doesn't matter if you decide to format FAT partition), then do full wipe (data, cache+dalvik, system, boot), put the rom.zip on SD and flash it.
If you formatted SD now you can also copy back the music, pics etc. back on your SD.
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Just install 4ext, nandroid backup, backup sd content to hdd, partition it with 1GB ext3 or ext4 (doesn't matter if you decide to format FAT partition), then do full wipe (data, cache+dalvik, system, boot), put the rom.zip on SD and flash it.
If you formatted SD now you can also copy back the music, pics etc. back on your SD.
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Ok so I made a nandroid backup and then copied the entire SD to my PC. I'm currently downloading the A2SD+ version of RevolutionROM.
Just a couple of (probably silly) questions:
1. I've not read about wiping boot before, presume this won't affect HBOOT or Recovery?
2. Once I've partitioned and assuming I do format the FAT partition, how do I then get the ROM.zip onto the SD? Will I be able to power off the phone after partitioning, remove SD card, copy from PC, put back in then boot into recovery again without a problem?
Cheers
greenstarthree said:
Ok so I made a nandroid backup and then copied the entire SD to my PC. I'm currently downloading the A2SD+ version of RevolutionROM.
Just a couple of (probably silly) questions:
1. I've not read about wiping boot before, presume this won't affect HBOOT or Recovery?
2. Once I've partitioned and assuming I do format the FAT partition, how do I then get the ROM.zip onto the SD? Will I be able to power off the phone after partitioning, remove SD card, copy from PC, put back in then boot into recovery again without a problem?
Cheers
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1. No it wont affect.
2. You can mount USB storage from recovery and copy files from there.
Sorted!
Writing this from the xda developers app installed on my Desire running revolution ROM.
Massive thanks to you all for your help getting me here! Could I just ask, how do I manage the apps and their caches/data? Do I need to use App2SD anymore or are they automatically using the newly created EXT4 partition?
When I go to manage applications, the phone still only shows around 134MB remaining?
Thank you so much again!
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Well if you want more space for apps, another step would be flashing hboot appropriate for ROM, most of them supports cm7r2 hboot which has nearly twice more internal memory reserved for apps.
With cm7r2 hboot i would recommend trying some AOSP ROM's as they are much smaller and fits nicely.
For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453287&page=379 (it's easy to settle with as it's automatically moving apps/dalvik to ext partition, dont need to setup any a2sd scripts)
Or any other AOSP rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Just keep looking for something that you'll like.
Ah, so I might have misunderstood, I thought partitioning the SD card would cause Revolution ROM to read the 1GB EXT4 partition as internal memory. Or that I would have a function to move app and dalvik from within the ROM? Is that not the case or is it just a manual process to move them?
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Sorry, just noticed something strange:
When I booted into 4EXT recovery, I got this message:
Recovery is in safe mode. This is because the following partition is not accessible: "system"
Please enter the wipe menu and format system! If you changed hboot you should choose to format all partitions (except sdcard).
Afterwards please reboot recovery.
I thought something had gone wrong in the install of Revolution ROM yesterday, so I re-did everything (formatted all partitions, formatted SD FAT32, re-partitioned SD card). After a reboot the message was gone, so I re-installed Revolution ROM, which started ok. But then I rebooted to recovery and the message was back!
The recovery itself seems to work ok, but what would the reason for this message be??