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Hi,
Due to be getting a locked branded HTC desire on Orange tomorrow. Wasn't planning to do anything but after what I have heard I will be de branding it as soon as I can. I have read a couple of guides. Could someone please make it as simple as possible for me?
I am going to be making a gold card (I think) and then putting a ROM on it? I think I will be able to do that and also do the updating with the gold card in and stuff. Can someone tell me what is the ROM? And when android 2.2 is released how do I update that? Is it a lot simpler or even more confusing than updating a ROM, also how do I find the latest ROM update?
Also how simple is it to unlock the sim and how do I do it?
Thanks in advance for your answers, any additional info would also be great.
Hi All
This is my first visit for years since owning an original XDA so I am not up to speed and would appreciate some expert guidance if you would be so kind.
I have just bought an HTC Desire and have several questions :-
a) it is an Orange branded HTC Desire bought of eBay which I have now unlocked but it still has all of the horrible Orange branding. I am running the current great Tesco deal (£10 pm, 500 any minutes, unlimited internet (500mb AU) so running costs will be low
I still have access to an Orange PAYG sim
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ???;
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Really sorry for the barrage of questions but I would appreciate any guidance you can give
Thanks to you all
Hi freebooter,
I have answered each of your questions below.
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ?
You shouldn't need to, the phone will look for the updates, not the sim card. When Orange release their update, it won't matter what SIM you are using.
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
It will be Orange who supply your update, unless you debrand and flash a HTC or custom ROM.
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
Yes, look in the development forum, and read the first few sticky posts.
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
The phone would notify you
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
If you do that, you won't get the Orange update, but you should get the htc ones. Bear in kind some networks may not honourhonour your warranty if you debrand/flash a new ROM.
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Again, look say the first few posts in the development forum....
I hope the answers help, please feel free to ask more if you are unsure.
Zippyioa
Thanks Zippyioa - your reply is very helpful and has given me more confidence to try to get rid of the Orange bloatware
I am still a little confused about the huge range of roms available to download and a bit nervous about trying a customsied rom so can you recommend a good up to date rom that will put me on the HTC OTA upgrade path ?
(By the way, how are things in Stratford ? I used to live just up the road in Hockley Heath)
You won't need to root if you want to intend your desire. You just need need to create a goldcard. Guides in the developers forum. You then find the unbranded ruu. Further guides are in the development section.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
freebooter99 said:
Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
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Stratford is great, strangely we were just in Solihull so went through hockley heath to get there!
I think the last poster meant debrand not intend? Anyway, you are right about the goldcard, just make sure you put it in again if you do an OTA upgrade!
As for the unlock code, once you apply it Oranges sim lock is removed.it shouldn't come back but I would keep it just in case.
You also asked me which ROM I would suggest, I haven't tried any as I am still using the stock T-Mobile one, but Paul at MoDaCo has always made first class roms and you can choose the contents yourself in his kitchen
zippyioa
Sorry yes I meant debrand (I'm trying to use swype ) you will need a spare micro sd card for a gold card as when some ota updates arrive they will not be accepted unless you have a gold card. The unbranded rom will be instead of the orange rom. If you ever need to put the orange rom back on the phone you won't be able to as the orange ruu hasn't been leaked so keep that in mind.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for the responses
As I am not on Orange as service provider , what I really want to do is to get to as pure an HTC unbranded state in the hope that I will be able to get HTC OTA updates for Froyo and subsequents.
To be honest, custom roms are a bit scary at my level of knowledge as I don't want to brick an expensive handset (no disrespect to the clever guys who are cooking this stuff in their kitchens) so I will be looking for the most up to date HTC roms I can source.
One thing I can't figure is how HTC OTAs work as I would have thought that the service providers pump their updates out across their networks so how do unbranded handsets get updated ?
The way I understand it, it is the handset that looks for updates, based on the rom you have installed.
I currently have a t-mobile handset with a vodafone sim. I just got the t-mobile update as that is what the phone had installed on it.
zippyioa
Thanks zippyioa
So to get an update from Orange, I would have to leave it as Orange branded but , as I don't like the Orange customisations anyway, I would have to debrand it after their Froyo release ?
As this would still involve flashing a non Orange rom, am I right in thinking that I might as well find (if available) a current HTC Froyo rom and flash to that now ?
If I understand correctly, there is no benefit in waiting for Orange or am I utterly confused ?
Does anyone with an unbranded have an experience of an OTA HTC upgrade ?
Thanks
That's the way I understand it!
The only downside to debranding is that the operator warranty is usually void. I am not sure if HTC still cover it though?
The warranty isnt covered I dont think but you can check. An advantage to unbranding is that you will receive ota updates sooner and you won't have all the orange bloatware installed.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi there!
I am all new to the android world and a proud owner of a HTC Desire.
I have a branded (vodafone) version with bootloader 0.93.0001, SLCD and android 2.2 with all Updates installed.
I would like to unbrand, root and install the MIUI Rom on my Desire.
I read through guides and stuff and they unsettled me.
There often are hints which say things like: not with new HTC OTA, bootloader xx, SLCD Screen and so on.
So... above I already stated what I would like to do with my Desire.
First of all is it possible? ^^
Seconded, would someone tell me what guides (and pls in what order!!) I have to follow?
I would be very thankful in advance.
Have a nice christmas everyone.
regards
w4rheart
Before rooting, it's a good idea to save the stock ROM you are running right now, so in case of emergency, you can revert to it and send it to the repair service.
From what you say, I assume you are running 2.33.161.2 Vodafone rom, here is the RUU.exe for that version.
You cannot unbrand your phone, but can get rid of the vodafone adware (debrand) by installing a WWE ROM or a MIUI custom rom, as you said you would like.
To install a custom rom you'll have too use unrevoked in order to get root (SU) and a custom recovery, from the latter you can flash custom ROMs.
The most newbie friendly guide in my view is turkey's one.
You must not forget that we, also wish you a Merry Christmass.
Hi again!
Thanks for that Link, it is really helpful.
I have just one Question left:
Won't I need a goldcard?
Because in this guide there is nothing said about a goldcard, but in other tutorials I read that it is needed it to flash, root etc.
So according to the tut you posted above, I guess I dont need a goldcard, right?
regards
You will need a gold card to flash an official WWE ROM, but you do not need a goldcard to flash the RUU I have linked or the MIUI (because it's a custom, not an official rom by a carrier or htc).
Unrevoked doesn't require a goldcard neither.
Thanks again for your help.
I managed to successfully install the gMIUI ROM I found in this Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885844
But now my light sensor doesn't work! As well as torchlight.
How can I fix this?
+ I think that ROM is really unstable it already rebooted itself 2 times?
Sometimes it just reboots when starting an application?
EDIT: this really sucks. is MIUI really that bad?
Is MIUI in general rather unstable? Or did I do simething wrong/is there a more stable version of it?
(BTW: I choose Pays gMIUI because I wanted to have german language)
regards
Haven't tried Pay's MIUI, but the english version is solid.
You can download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9932492&postcount=4070
And then download a german language pack from here http://forums.miui-dev.com/showthre...UI-0.12.18-%28N1-Desire%29-Pack-3-verf%FCgbar
Can't tell you info or instructions on that because it's in ... german .
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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you could try and make a goldcard and flash a generic rom, apart from that there is not much you can do, you cant root the 1.75 roms yet
ok then how do i go with the goldcard thing? btw what is a goldcard exactly ?
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
DN41 said:
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
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Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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Leather|Face said:
Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
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I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
I have tried searching these forums for a solution but due to the fact I don't exactly know what I'm looking for it is quite difficult. I see a lot of "ROMs" on here for download, I don't know which one I need or if I need one at all, nor do I know how to install them. There seems to be a LOT of help guides for this kind of thing for the HTC Desire, but not the HTC Desire HD - probably because it's a lot newer, or not? This is the way I understand the process, please correct me if I'm wrong and point me in the right direction to complete these tasks;
1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
mcfc4eva said:
I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
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1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
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1. No, first step if you *really* want to do this is to look at how you downgrade from 1.7x to 1.32 (I think, check elsewhere).
2. HTC ROMs, the stock version, are just that. Networks add their stuff to customise it and that's what you're stuck with right now. I don't know which you'll need unfortunately, I'm on T-Mobile with the DHD but I got one before they were available on the site to everyone and it has no branding at all. The ROMs are RUU - ROM Update Utility but I don't think you can just flash stock over a T-Mobile branded version.
3. If you don't know how to flash a ROM then you're going to have to learn how by reading lots of threads and asking careful questions.
I can't give you links because I don't know how to go from branded to stock, I only know what I need to for my phone. I was in the middle of typing out what I think you need to do but I got stuck due to the stock ROM. I don't know if the downgrade process will work or not, and if it does work I don't know if that's downgrading to a stock ROM. I'm sorry I've just added more confusion
Suffice to say you'll need at least this information...
How to downgrade from branded to stock HTC firmware
One-click root tool at some point
Possibly / probably an install of the Android SDK to use ADB commands, not sure on this but I have it already from my G1 days.
Information on which is the stock EU or UK ROM version (RUUs remember?)
The search isn't handy when you don't know what you're looking for but hopefully this will give you somewhere to start.
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
right..you cant really call it fastboot on tmobile rom.
dont you think we could claim them for "doing" that? they sell the dhd with the spec "fastboot"..so its limited in its features..
DN41
Moondod said:
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
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thats because you bought DHD is the 1st batch of tmobile... after that all are branded..
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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THANKS ALOT DUDE,, YOUR A LIFE SAVER..
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
CitizenLee said:
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
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OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
Leather|Face said:
OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
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Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
CitizenLee said:
Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
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Sounds odd but i have decided to go with the generic htc rom... so i downgrade, i root, then s-off.. but do i still flash the latest radio or after s-off i just flash the unbranded rom ?
CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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I was just about to start the first process above (downgrading) when I noticed my current Build number = "1.39.110.1 CL278886 release-keys". Now I don't know what most of that means, but in the downgrading forum it says this;
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
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Does this mean I don't need to downgrade? Is my current build number 1.39?
Regards,
--Mike
Yeah man
EDIT: This was a reponse to LeatherFace's question Android Revolution having Sense UI. My forum view must have tripped out
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I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
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dude did you flash radio or something?? or not. i need to be clear cuz im going to unbrand my DHD tonight
Hello everyone , i hope you are all fine and doing well , and i dont know if this is the right area to post as im new here , alright straight to the topic , in http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084& this thread the thread starter mentioned this link http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/ , i had downloaded a ruu for my orange desire but now i need it again and this link wont work (403 forbidden), please help me i need that link today cuz i have to sell my phone and i need money for my studies(books and other stuff) so please help me about my orange htc desire ruu to where to download it if there is an alternate ruu for my orange htc then please sent the link with detail to what to download
They changed the link to:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
It should have been in the QA section. I'll report your post so the mods can move it
but which one is them i cannot find orange ch ruu or rom whatever it is(it is zip file not exe)
There arent any Orange RUU's available at all.
What exactly do you want to do?
i want htc desire orange ch ruu , i find htc ace ruu , will it work or will it make my screen black
Ace is a different phone. There are NO orange RUU's for the desire. You can not take it back to orange stock.
Please answer my question. Why do you want to take it back to stock?
because i have oxygen rom installed and they wont buy it unless its stock orange anywhere i try
HTC warranty is still accepted on the 2.3 gingerbread update from HTCdev.com
Its official HTC release and is not classed as debranded. They should accept that.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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