Hi All
This is my first visit for years since owning an original XDA so I am not up to speed and would appreciate some expert guidance if you would be so kind.
I have just bought an HTC Desire and have several questions :-
a) it is an Orange branded HTC Desire bought of eBay which I have now unlocked but it still has all of the horrible Orange branding. I am running the current great Tesco deal (£10 pm, 500 any minutes, unlimited internet (500mb AU) so running costs will be low
I still have access to an Orange PAYG sim
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ???;
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Really sorry for the barrage of questions but I would appreciate any guidance you can give
Thanks to you all
Hi freebooter,
I have answered each of your questions below.
Question : Can I use (Insert) the Orange SIM when (if ) Orange roll out their OTA update to Froyo to update the handset ?
You shouldn't need to, the phone will look for the updates, not the sim card. When Orange release their update, it won't matter what SIM you are using.
b) Question : Do Tesco operate any OTA updates and , if so, will they ignore my "Orange" HTC ?
It will be Orange who supply your update, unless you debrand and flash a HTC or custom ROM.
c) Can I debrand the Orange and, if so, can I then use any HTC OTA updates ?
Yes, look in the development forum, and read the first few sticky posts.
d) If I can do c) above, how would I go about getting the HTC update;
The phone would notify you
e) If I debrand and root the HTC, presumably it can no longer update via OTC so how would I then perform future updates:
If you do that, you won't get the Orange update, but you should get the htc ones. Bear in kind some networks may not honourhonour your warranty if you debrand/flash a new ROM.
f) I have great admiration for the makers of the various custom roms currently out for Froyo but really worried about bricking the phone so I am really regarding flashing the firmware as a last resort - if I do have to bite this bullet, can someone point me to the best "idiots guide" ?
Again, look say the first few posts in the development forum....
I hope the answers help, please feel free to ask more if you are unsure.
Zippyioa
Thanks Zippyioa - your reply is very helpful and has given me more confidence to try to get rid of the Orange bloatware
I am still a little confused about the huge range of roms available to download and a bit nervous about trying a customsied rom so can you recommend a good up to date rom that will put me on the HTC OTA upgrade path ?
(By the way, how are things in Stratford ? I used to live just up the road in Hockley Heath)
You won't need to root if you want to intend your desire. You just need need to create a goldcard. Guides in the developers forum. You then find the unbranded ruu. Further guides are in the development section.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
freebooter99 said:
Thanks Ste1164
Sorry to be thick but you said "you want to intend your desire" which I don't understand
Do you mean I only need a gold card to flash a stock rom over the Orange one ?
I will read the stickies (and try to make sense of them but I am very out of touch - my last custom rom was for an original XDA !!!)
One other point, having bought and used an unlock code for my Orange handset, presumably the same code number will work if the hnadset locks up again ?
Thanks
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Stratford is great, strangely we were just in Solihull so went through hockley heath to get there!
I think the last poster meant debrand not intend? Anyway, you are right about the goldcard, just make sure you put it in again if you do an OTA upgrade!
As for the unlock code, once you apply it Oranges sim lock is removed.it shouldn't come back but I would keep it just in case.
You also asked me which ROM I would suggest, I haven't tried any as I am still using the stock T-Mobile one, but Paul at MoDaCo has always made first class roms and you can choose the contents yourself in his kitchen
zippyioa
Sorry yes I meant debrand (I'm trying to use swype ) you will need a spare micro sd card for a gold card as when some ota updates arrive they will not be accepted unless you have a gold card. The unbranded rom will be instead of the orange rom. If you ever need to put the orange rom back on the phone you won't be able to as the orange ruu hasn't been leaked so keep that in mind.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for the responses
As I am not on Orange as service provider , what I really want to do is to get to as pure an HTC unbranded state in the hope that I will be able to get HTC OTA updates for Froyo and subsequents.
To be honest, custom roms are a bit scary at my level of knowledge as I don't want to brick an expensive handset (no disrespect to the clever guys who are cooking this stuff in their kitchens) so I will be looking for the most up to date HTC roms I can source.
One thing I can't figure is how HTC OTAs work as I would have thought that the service providers pump their updates out across their networks so how do unbranded handsets get updated ?
The way I understand it, it is the handset that looks for updates, based on the rom you have installed.
I currently have a t-mobile handset with a vodafone sim. I just got the t-mobile update as that is what the phone had installed on it.
zippyioa
Thanks zippyioa
So to get an update from Orange, I would have to leave it as Orange branded but , as I don't like the Orange customisations anyway, I would have to debrand it after their Froyo release ?
As this would still involve flashing a non Orange rom, am I right in thinking that I might as well find (if available) a current HTC Froyo rom and flash to that now ?
If I understand correctly, there is no benefit in waiting for Orange or am I utterly confused ?
Does anyone with an unbranded have an experience of an OTA HTC upgrade ?
Thanks
That's the way I understand it!
The only downside to debranding is that the operator warranty is usually void. I am not sure if HTC still cover it though?
The warranty isnt covered I dont think but you can check. An advantage to unbranding is that you will receive ota updates sooner and you won't have all the orange bloatware installed.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hi,
Due to be getting a locked branded HTC desire on Orange tomorrow. Wasn't planning to do anything but after what I have heard I will be de branding it as soon as I can. I have read a couple of guides. Could someone please make it as simple as possible for me?
I am going to be making a gold card (I think) and then putting a ROM on it? I think I will be able to do that and also do the updating with the gold card in and stuff. Can someone tell me what is the ROM? And when android 2.2 is released how do I update that? Is it a lot simpler or even more confusing than updating a ROM, also how do I find the latest ROM update?
Also how simple is it to unlock the sim and how do I do it?
Thanks in advance for your answers, any additional info would also be great.
Can some one please enlighten me i have just read this-
'Thanks for your email about the Android 2.2 software. I understand you're eagerly waiting for your order to be delivered
I'd like to inform you, that Android 2.2 software is not available with us. However, if you've been promised while upgrading your contract to HTC Desire phone. I'd request you to please visit the O2 store, wherein you had upgraded your contract. They'll be in a better position to help you in this matter.
I appreciate your patience in this matter and hope things get sorted for you soon. If you need any further help, feel free to contact us or visit our online Help Centre
Have a nice time.
Kind regards
Dinesh
O2 customer service '
HOW TRUE IS THIS ANYONEEEEEEEEEEEEE HELPPPPPPPPPPPP
Just debrand, root and upgrade manually. 20 minute process.
sbdags said:
Just debrand, root and upgrade manually. 20 minute process.
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ive tried i just cant seem to do it I keep getting error's tried europe roms and wwe with gold card?????????? does it have to be rooted to put a stock rom on?
Kickasskev said:
ive tried i just cant seem to do it I keep getting error's tried europe roms and wwe with gold card?????????? does it have to be rooted to put a stock rom on?
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Try UnrEVOked. If it works you can then just flash a pre-rooted Froyo.
Regards,
Dave
Hu now ive just read -
An O2 spokesman told techradar.com: "We're working with HTC to bring the latest version of Android 2.2 Froyo to our HTC Desire customers as soon as possible. We expect this to take several weeks and we will update our customers once the new software is available."
Dont know what to believe DAMN
Sounds like a badly-informed customer service guy to me.
Dude don't worry, 2.2 will come to o2. Most people working for these mobile phone companies don't know anything that isn't on a script. In my experience its not even worth asking, they didn't even know what the Desire was a few days before its release.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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you could try and make a goldcard and flash a generic rom, apart from that there is not much you can do, you cant root the 1.75 roms yet
ok then how do i go with the goldcard thing? btw what is a goldcard exactly ?
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
DN41 said:
use search pls..there are many threads about that in the Developement Thread.
btw, mine is also tmobile branded. there are some apps ok, and the startscreen..who cares
i wouldnt install an official rom..warranty is gone and fota doesnt work as easy as now. (yeah you can flash back the stock one...)
just my 2 cents
DN41
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Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
Leather|Face said:
Hello guys im new to this so please be wise. i dont know nothing on how to debrand or flash. i have DHD on tmobile Uk.. its not network locked. but its tmobile branded.. and there is alota tmobile S###T which i dont want in my phone.
Android : 2.2.1
Software Number: 1.75.110.2
How do i flash official DHD rom of an unbranded phone on my tmobile branded phone to get my phone unbranded?? Please on what i need to do ?? just a recall i donno much about these things.. so please a little detail reply will be really appreciated.
Thanks alot guys..
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Leather|Face said:
Man tmobile makes the phone run a bit slow ( talking about fastboot).. takes 2.5 sec on official rom,, takes a minute on branded rom.
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I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
I have tried searching these forums for a solution but due to the fact I don't exactly know what I'm looking for it is quite difficult. I see a lot of "ROMs" on here for download, I don't know which one I need or if I need one at all, nor do I know how to install them. There seems to be a LOT of help guides for this kind of thing for the HTC Desire, but not the HTC Desire HD - probably because it's a lot newer, or not? This is the way I understand the process, please correct me if I'm wrong and point me in the right direction to complete these tasks;
1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
mcfc4eva said:
I'm in the same position as Leather|Face. I know almost nothing about rooting/flashing a phone or gold cards. I also have a DHD with T-Mobile UK but want to get rid of all the branded stuff (especially the boot screen which makes booting the device take around a minute !!).
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1. First step would be to "root" my phone, which I believe gives me admin/superuser priveleges, and that's all it does right? I don't know how to do this.
2. Next I need to find the correct ROM, which would be the stock ROM for HTC Desire HD (don't know where to find this either, tried searching). Does this ROM include the unbranded version of HTC Sense UI etc, or am I on the wrong tracks?
3. Install the stock ROM, which I believe is more commonly referred to as "Flashing a ROM", is this correct? I don't know how to do this either.
As you can see from above, I have limited understanding of the process, and what I think I understand may be completely incorrect anyway! I want to find a guide to get back the stock DHD Android/Sense UI, ideally with explanations for a newbie telling me WHY I am doing specific tasks and how they affect my phone etc.
I'll be thankful for any help
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1. No, first step if you *really* want to do this is to look at how you downgrade from 1.7x to 1.32 (I think, check elsewhere).
2. HTC ROMs, the stock version, are just that. Networks add their stuff to customise it and that's what you're stuck with right now. I don't know which you'll need unfortunately, I'm on T-Mobile with the DHD but I got one before they were available on the site to everyone and it has no branding at all. The ROMs are RUU - ROM Update Utility but I don't think you can just flash stock over a T-Mobile branded version.
3. If you don't know how to flash a ROM then you're going to have to learn how by reading lots of threads and asking careful questions.
I can't give you links because I don't know how to go from branded to stock, I only know what I need to for my phone. I was in the middle of typing out what I think you need to do but I got stuck due to the stock ROM. I don't know if the downgrade process will work or not, and if it does work I don't know if that's downgrading to a stock ROM. I'm sorry I've just added more confusion
Suffice to say you'll need at least this information...
How to downgrade from branded to stock HTC firmware
One-click root tool at some point
Possibly / probably an install of the Android SDK to use ADB commands, not sure on this but I have it already from my G1 days.
Information on which is the stock EU or UK ROM version (RUUs remember?)
The search isn't handy when you don't know what you're looking for but hopefully this will give you somewhere to start.
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
right..you cant really call it fastboot on tmobile rom.
dont you think we could claim them for "doing" that? they sell the dhd with the spec "fastboot"..so its limited in its features..
DN41
Moondod said:
Thats strange, my DHD is from T-Mobile and has no branding on it whatsoever.
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thats because you bought DHD is the 1st batch of tmobile... after that all are branded..
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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THANKS ALOT DUDE,, YOUR A LIFE SAVER..
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
CitizenLee said:
You're welcome mate, but all credit to the people who created the threads. I just used my excellent copy and paste skills
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OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
Leather|Face said:
OO yeah man.. thanks to a realy hard work of those guys who made it possible.
btw is colors, battery life and performance realy faster in Android Revolution 2.0.6 ?
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Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
CitizenLee said:
Dunno about colours but battery life and overall speed and performance are way better than stock
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Sounds odd but i have decided to go with the generic htc rom... so i downgrade, i root, then s-off.. but do i still flash the latest radio or after s-off i just flash the unbranded rom ?
CitizenLee said:
I'll save you some time & effort...
How to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
How to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
How to get S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
How to flash latest radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
An excellent custom ROM based on stock but with major improvements (worth rooting just for this!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
I couldn't find a link to a rooted stock ROM but see here if you really do want to stay with stock and still have root (no reason to do this though as the ROM above will totally blow it away):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
Be sure to read all instructions and FAQs in each thread as they do explain everything about each process. If you do get stuck please ask any questions in the relevant threads for a quicker response and to reduce clutter.
Have fun!
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I was just about to start the first process above (downgrading) when I noticed my current Build number = "1.39.110.1 CL278886 release-keys". Now I don't know what most of that means, but in the downgrading forum it says this;
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
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Does this mean I don't need to downgrade? Is my current build number 1.39?
Regards,
--Mike
Yeah man
EDIT: This was a reponse to LeatherFace's question Android Revolution having Sense UI. My forum view must have tripped out
MAkS1 said:
I was in the exact same position Dutch vodafone branded 1.75 softwareversion. I somehow managed to create a goldcard, downgrade, root my device and then S-OFF. I used the provided tutorials in the Android development section. Before that I just read alot untill I convinced myself I could do it. After that I used generic 1.72 RUU.exe via pc to flash my DHD. My device is now unbranded. Creating the goldcard was the hardest part, pay attention as you need to write mmc2/mmc2 instead of mmc1/mmc somewhere in the process.
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dude did you flash radio or something?? or not. i need to be clear cuz im going to unbrand my DHD tonight
hi guys I bought my DHD last month form Amazon.UK and im using it here in Middle-east .the phone has never being used in UK. All of my friends got the update but not just me why? is it because im here in KSA and the phone I bought is form UK? why i'm saying all this is because the HTC customer service said ,
''Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. With regards to your inquiry, all the updates that you will receive it on your device OS it will refer back to the UK region because your device is from UK. Thank you once again for your continued patronage.''
what dose it mean that I will never gona get any update like not 2.3 or not even 2.2.1. well finally what I was thinking of now, is it possible if I insert my UK sim card in the phone so it might give update idk i have to look for some UK sims then.
Same here..My DHD is too from UK
I haven't received any of the updates either
My brother and my friends already updated to 1.83.415.6 and im still stuck with the 1.32.405.6
Dude, 1.83.415.6 is an OTA for Middle-Eastern phones (containing Arabic support), so you won't get it if your phone is a UK unit.
Actually my brother and me bought the unit together and he had the same system software as mine but he got an update and the update is not actually for arabic support only...It improves the performance and the battery life
Just root guys then you will have all the updates you want.
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as for now, HTC dont have any upgrade for desire HD yet. the last update (ver 2.2.1) also has been reverted because of several issues. So stock Desire HD wont receive any update (up to now).
but, if you still want the update, you can flash your rom.
What do you mean by just root and you will get all the updates??..
didnt get this
ghazi chawla said:
What do you mean by just root and you will get all the updates??..
didnt get this
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Root is an way to gain more control over your phone. You will get to play around with your /system and many other goodies like OC/UV. Search around in the forum and you will find complete guide to root your DHD and then you will be able to flash custom ROMs that are based on the latest RUU from HTC.
To root your phone, download visionary+ and follow the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837519
To ENG S-OFF your phone easily, follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
To flash a new radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
Check the version of the Stock ROM on your DHD prior to getting started.
Mate i knew that before too and thanks for trying to help me but i was asking does rooting , s-off affect the OTA updates?
You will loose OTA but the developers on here include all the best bits from OTA updates in their custom ROMs anyway, so you will always be up to date, except a custom ROM will work so much better than stock.... faster, smoother, more stable, bettery battery life etc etc.
As you said you will loose OTA updates but once you revert back to the original stock rom then will you be able to get the OTAs or not?
Yeah, if you flash official again you'll get OTA back... but there's absolutely nothing to gain from OTA updates compared to using a custom ROM.
Seriously, the developers here are a lot better at fixing bugs and problems than the "developers" working for HTC!
where can we get the official roms...its too long that i havent received any updates..maybe if i reflash with a official rom i get updates...
actually i dont want to void my warranty by flashing custom roms
Have a look in the Desire HD Development section, there should be links there.
With custom you only loose warranty until you flash official again, then you have warranty again
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
Will I never gona learn English
ghazi chawla said:
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
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I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to that one.
ghazi chawla said:
Thanks mate, you were really helpful
And do you know from which server does the DHD checks for the updates?
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You are asking details that are not useful in anyway (ofc you can have all your interests to know it )....Like it has been said, don´t worry about OTA and stuffs...keep on visiting XDA and go on with one of the custom ROMs (best imo at the moment is ARHD2.0.9) you ll never miss HTCs ROM...
here is the link for all the ROMs though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824357
ghazi chawla said:
Actually my brother and me bought the unit together and he had the same system software as mine but he got an update and the update is not actually for arabic support only...It improves the performance and the battery life
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Yeah, I'm aware that the update (which is 37Mb or so) contains more than just Arabic language support, but what I'm saying is that the update was specifically rolled out for Arabic-locale phones.
My understanding is that it's the equivalent of the 1.72blahblahetc update for other phones.
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Just root guys then you will have all the updates you want.
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and how you do that . sorry but I dont know anything abt rooting...
also if i rooted my phone will i be able to receive all the updates like camera improvement, lag issue, better battery, less cpu usage etc etc... and form where i will get all of these updates like the originally way like setting>about phone> check updater or have to check any specific website for that. oh and also what are the cons for rooting.
Hello everyone! I own a desire hd and it's stock (soft. ver. 1.72.405.3), I must say I am ok with it that way but still I'm thinking of rooting it..
but I don't know much about that.. though I like it stock I understand there are some things it can do more...
first of all: what do I lose by rooting? the htc sense? the htc themes/ interface? the dolby surround and srs software?? see, I don't really want to return to the basic android and I like the custom htc interface..do I lose it??
second I heard about the official upgrade to 2.3 so I would be better to wait for that first?
by rooting I am mainly looking for overclocking..god, that's so cool!
so if someone can answer me the questions above, it would be great! also, if I decide to root which is the best way to do that, what programs do you recommend, is there a desire hd based ROM, and what should I do for overclocking?
thanks a lot!
First of all, your current software version cannot be rooted, you need to downgrade to an earlier version to root. You can root without installing custom roms, but most of the custom roms come with sence and all the htc additions
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Hi,
and welcome to XDA.
The software version of your Desire HD (DHD for short) is not possible to root. In order to overclock you will need to downgrade to an earlier version (1.32).
Once downgraded rooting becomes easy. The process of rooting will not break anything, including the stuff you've mentioned. However, there is an additional layer of protection that HTC employ to prevent you from bricking you DHD. This beast is known as S-ON (Security On). In order to make persistent changes to your DHD, such as custom HTC Sense ROM's you will need to disable this, achieving S-OFF. This will break Over The Air (OTA) Updates from HTC or your network/carrier.
Again this is pretty straight forward.
If you wish to flash a new Radio you will need to have ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF.
The guides posted below are not created by me, they are very good and information in them will overlap slightly.
To downgrade, read this guide carefully --> Downgrading to 1.32 - Guide By jkoljo
To root & apply ENG S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Rooting & Applying ENG S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
To apply Radio S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Applying Radio S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
Once you have done all the basics we can talk you through the rest.
Let us know how you get on.
hey! thank you both
so I want to know, beside this protection that has to be disabled, the phone will act normal, right? no performance loss?
and also, if i block the update, i won't be able to update to gingerbread?
are you satisfied with the phone rooted compared to the stock?
and i'm planning to move to UK, will I be able to use it in other carrier such as o2 since I've got mine from orange RO?
Thank you
Tib!
You are correct, your DHD will not behave any differently than if the protections were enabled.
The Official Gingerbread update from HTC is still quite a while away, and all of the custom ROM Dev's will include any changes into their ROM's. So don't feel like you will miss out if you root & apply S-OFF.
Yes, I am very happy with it rooted. I can over/under clock my CPU when the situation demands, block in-app ads system wide, perform full backups of my entire DHD. These are merely scratching the surface of what root access can enable.
As for you moving to the UK, once you perform Radio S-OFF using the guide and tool described above, your DHD will not be SIM Locked to a particular network/carrier.
sounds great then.. but: it will erase all the data on the phone, right? i will lose everything
secondly, I am concerned about the rest of the process.. i will root it but after that? I'm sure all the cool stuff isn't free but i don't have access to payed apps on market, just for free ones (this is what is available for Romania at the time..) so i'm afraid i will get stuck..
thanks
Downgrading will erase all data on your DHD.
Some, not all the cool stuff are paid app's.
For instance SetCPU, the app nearly everyone uses to overclock their handsets is a paid app. But for XDA members its free. You can find it here on XDA-Devs, its all above board and legit. Other apps such as Titanium Backup have a paid app version on the Market, but also allow you buy a donate key from within the app.
I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, there are hundreds of users here all willing to help if you do.
EDIT: You can find SetCPU --> HERE, obviously if you like it and can afford to, donate to the author.
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
tibrocks said:
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
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You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
ok, but please make clear: by rooting will i have a real froyo or future gingerbread or just sort of system that only acts like one of the two above?
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by rooting it allows you to change the stock ROM (HTC sense) on your phone to another custom ROM either based on Froyo or Gingerbread
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
) well i'm afraid too..
well, have you done rooting your dhd?
dr.m0x said:
You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
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And It's hard to Brick the Desire HD... And for your Gingerbread Concern, The Chef's here are aware of that.. Just be patience and they will Produce ROMS with Gingerbread on it.... Enjoy Rooting....
xuldigiorgio said:
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
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Your on the 1.32 software so routing will be a piece of cake.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
hi , ive been reading the guides and am really keen to root my dhd, was just about to start the process when i read that it wouldn't work with my branded dhd (vodaphone, australia) is this true? was hoping to go from 1.32.178.5 to 1.72.405.3 R2 is this possible using the stock to leedroid guide?
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
xuldigiorgio said:
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
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as far as I know, the branded ones show the logo of the company (ex Vodafone, T-mobile.. etc)
The whole thing is really confusing to me. I do have ENG S-OFF, and already flashed a Radio and some Roms. Is ENG S-OFF better than Radio S-OFF? Or what is the difference to it?
I read some threads about it and now I am really confused..
Kick me!