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[Q] ROM upgrade question??

hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it

i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..

devillblood said:
hello guys
i have the HTC Touch Diamond (p3700) from rogers, and i was wondering since the phone is locked to the rogers network, is it possible for me to install a custom rom on the phone?? or do i have to do the sim unlock to do that??
sorry, this might be a noob question but i need the question answered as i had the O2 Xda Mini S before my HTC which was unlocked and this is the first time i actually purchased a phone from rogers since i get all my phones from out canada
thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
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Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
farhan_ds said:
i have a rogers HTC diamond as well.. and its got the winmob 6.1 5.2.19965 build 1.2.3 Year 2008.. the HTC website doesnt let me download the feb 2009 firmware as the device is not suitable..
a few simple Noob questions please..
1 - its working in my country with other network sims, all of them but the phone strartup says rogers... is my cell unlocked or not?
2 - will Hard Spl remove everytrace of rogers from my phone? (i actually wana debrand it from rogers to plain standard retail version)..
3 - Will any firmare upgrade using hardspl method work on my cell?.. and what will happen to the orignal FW? will it be erased permanently, or will it still be stored in a secret storage, so that it can be retrieved later when i plan to sell it later and rest to factory defaults?
Again, as a newcomer and a noob at the Xda dev scene, i would apreciate any kind of help .
thanks in anticipation..
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1. Yes your phone is unlocked, but you are using a rogers customized ROM. Try a different ROM to remove it.
2. No, Hard-SPL will not remove it. You'll need to flash another ROM to do that.
3. Firstly, if you are flashing/upgrading a new firmware (we call it ROM) then all data will permanently removed.
There are some packs to revert your ROM back to stock, but I don't know if there are any Rogers ROM's available on the net.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!

[ElCondor] said:
Hi,
As far as I know, you should be able to install any ROM you want.
But make sure you have flashed Hard-SPL Olinex Unsigned,
just try the link in my sig and follow steps 6 - 11.
You still need an unlocker to make it possible using other networks though.
I hope I have answered all your questions.
Good luck both!
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hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone

Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir..

devillblood said:
hey thanks a lot for the reply, finally someone replies, and this method will not brick my phone right?? since that is what scares me the most the fact that i mite end up bricking my phone
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No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
farhan_ds said:
Thanks a lot Elcondor.. it solved half of my problems..
the only thing is,, i tried the 6.5 Prototype rom and rogers sill show up on the startup screen.. i flashed the splash screen, and still the lower 100pixels appear pink, out of no where..
and i simply wana DEBRAND the whole **** of rogers from it, so that i can upgrade the 2.0.0.00 rom version to the HTC official 2.0.43 version, but evertime i download from there, and try updating it, it says, Model ID not compatible..
is there a way to remove the entire rogers crap from it, and get it cleaned like a retail version?...
Thanks a lot sir.
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The splash screen is a harder part to do. You need Patchsplash to patch your splash screen. In that way, the splash screen should appear right. Note that the procedure to do that is pretty hard. Here are some more instructions if you didn't get it.
And about a Diamond stock ROM, take a look here. A 2.03.4 ROM including a new radio and the splash screen.
Good luck guys!

[ElCondor] said:
No, it shouldn't brick your phone. In fact, Hard-SPL makes your device hardly brickable. Just try it, you will not be dissapointed. But, it's not my responsabillity if you brick you diamond, keep that in mind.
Good luck guys!
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thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man

devillblood said:
thanks a lot man, well i guess if its doesn't brick the phone then my diamond shouldn't brick unless i do something stupid in the middle of the process, and one more question, since there A LOT of roms on this site, anyway suggestion on which one would b above all, in regards to features and most of all, which rom would make my diamonds performance faster then the stock rom
thanks man
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No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,

[ElCondor] said:
No prob my friend, xda-devs is to help each other.
To recommend a ROM is pretty hard, since there are very different kind of ROMs available.
Do you want a ROM with full Diamond2 experience, without WM 6.5(.x) try Gen. Y D2 R4.
Or, do you prefer a light WM6.5(.x) ROM, try BSB 6.5.1. It is pretty fast and light.
In a short time, I am going to release a 6.5.1 ROM (called Condor GT), with very nice graphics and still very fast.
Just give some a shot and you'll soon find out which ROM is the best.
BTW All the ROMS given in this thread are better that stock ROMs, just to be clear
Regards,
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haha yes i know they are all better then the stock roms, but i was wondering if u could guide me, since there are a lot of roms, i am looking for one that has a nice interface, is fast, and wm 6.5 if possible would be awesome
thanks a lot for ur help

New HTC Desire help needed...

Hi there!
I am all new to the android world and a proud owner of a HTC Desire.
I have a branded (vodafone) version with bootloader 0.93.0001, SLCD and android 2.2 with all Updates installed.
I would like to unbrand, root and install the MIUI Rom on my Desire.
I read through guides and stuff and they unsettled me.
There often are hints which say things like: not with new HTC OTA, bootloader xx, SLCD Screen and so on.
So... above I already stated what I would like to do with my Desire.
First of all is it possible? ^^
Seconded, would someone tell me what guides (and pls in what order!!) I have to follow?
I would be very thankful in advance.
Have a nice christmas everyone.
regards
w4rheart

Before rooting, it's a good idea to save the stock ROM you are running right now, so in case of emergency, you can revert to it and send it to the repair service.
From what you say, I assume you are running 2.33.161.2 Vodafone rom, here is the RUU.exe for that version.
You cannot unbrand your phone, but can get rid of the vodafone adware (debrand) by installing a WWE ROM or a MIUI custom rom, as you said you would like.
To install a custom rom you'll have too use unrevoked in order to get root (SU) and a custom recovery, from the latter you can flash custom ROMs.
The most newbie friendly guide in my view is turkey's one.
You must not forget that we, also wish you a Merry Christmass.

Hi again!
Thanks for that Link, it is really helpful.
I have just one Question left:
Won't I need a goldcard?
Because in this guide there is nothing said about a goldcard, but in other tutorials I read that it is needed it to flash, root etc.
So according to the tut you posted above, I guess I dont need a goldcard, right?
regards

You will need a gold card to flash an official WWE ROM, but you do not need a goldcard to flash the RUU I have linked or the MIUI (because it's a custom, not an official rom by a carrier or htc).
Unrevoked doesn't require a goldcard neither.

Thanks again for your help.
I managed to successfully install the gMIUI ROM I found in this Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885844
But now my light sensor doesn't work! As well as torchlight.
How can I fix this?
+ I think that ROM is really unstable it already rebooted itself 2 times?
Sometimes it just reboots when starting an application?
EDIT: this really sucks. is MIUI really that bad?
Is MIUI in general rather unstable? Or did I do simething wrong/is there a more stable version of it?
(BTW: I choose Pays gMIUI because I wanted to have german language)
regards

Haven't tried Pay's MIUI, but the english version is solid.
You can download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9932492&postcount=4070
And then download a german language pack from here http://forums.miui-dev.com/showthre...UI-0.12.18-%28N1-Desire%29-Pack-3-verf%FCgbar
Can't tell you info or instructions on that because it's in ... german .

[Q] Some questions regarding DHD/ rooting?

Hello everyone! I own a desire hd and it's stock (soft. ver. 1.72.405.3), I must say I am ok with it that way but still I'm thinking of rooting it..
but I don't know much about that.. though I like it stock I understand there are some things it can do more...
first of all: what do I lose by rooting? the htc sense? the htc themes/ interface? the dolby surround and srs software?? see, I don't really want to return to the basic android and I like the custom htc interface..do I lose it??
second I heard about the official upgrade to 2.3 so I would be better to wait for that first?
by rooting I am mainly looking for overclocking..god, that's so cool!
so if someone can answer me the questions above, it would be great! also, if I decide to root which is the best way to do that, what programs do you recommend, is there a desire hd based ROM, and what should I do for overclocking?
thanks a lot!

First of all, your current software version cannot be rooted, you need to downgrade to an earlier version to root. You can root without installing custom roms, but most of the custom roms come with sence and all the htc additions
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Hi,
and welcome to XDA.
The software version of your Desire HD (DHD for short) is not possible to root. In order to overclock you will need to downgrade to an earlier version (1.32).
Once downgraded rooting becomes easy. The process of rooting will not break anything, including the stuff you've mentioned. However, there is an additional layer of protection that HTC employ to prevent you from bricking you DHD. This beast is known as S-ON (Security On). In order to make persistent changes to your DHD, such as custom HTC Sense ROM's you will need to disable this, achieving S-OFF. This will break Over The Air (OTA) Updates from HTC or your network/carrier.
Again this is pretty straight forward.
If you wish to flash a new Radio you will need to have ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF.
The guides posted below are not created by me, they are very good and information in them will overlap slightly.
To downgrade, read this guide carefully --> Downgrading to 1.32 - Guide By jkoljo
To root & apply ENG S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Rooting & Applying ENG S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
To apply Radio S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Applying Radio S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
Once you have done all the basics we can talk you through the rest.
Let us know how you get on.

hey! thank you both
so I want to know, beside this protection that has to be disabled, the phone will act normal, right? no performance loss?
and also, if i block the update, i won't be able to update to gingerbread?
are you satisfied with the phone rooted compared to the stock?
and i'm planning to move to UK, will I be able to use it in other carrier such as o2 since I've got mine from orange RO?
Thank you
Tib!

You are correct, your DHD will not behave any differently than if the protections were enabled.
The Official Gingerbread update from HTC is still quite a while away, and all of the custom ROM Dev's will include any changes into their ROM's. So don't feel like you will miss out if you root & apply S-OFF.
Yes, I am very happy with it rooted. I can over/under clock my CPU when the situation demands, block in-app ads system wide, perform full backups of my entire DHD. These are merely scratching the surface of what root access can enable.
As for you moving to the UK, once you perform Radio S-OFF using the guide and tool described above, your DHD will not be SIM Locked to a particular network/carrier.

sounds great then.. but: it will erase all the data on the phone, right? i will lose everything
secondly, I am concerned about the rest of the process.. i will root it but after that? I'm sure all the cool stuff isn't free but i don't have access to payed apps on market, just for free ones (this is what is available for Romania at the time..) so i'm afraid i will get stuck..
thanks

Downgrading will erase all data on your DHD.
Some, not all the cool stuff are paid app's.
For instance SetCPU, the app nearly everyone uses to overclock their handsets is a paid app. But for XDA members its free. You can find it here on XDA-Devs, its all above board and legit. Other apps such as Titanium Backup have a paid app version on the Market, but also allow you buy a donate key from within the app.
I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, there are hundreds of users here all willing to help if you do.
EDIT: You can find SetCPU --> HERE, obviously if you like it and can afford to, donate to the author.

my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks

tibrocks said:
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
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You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.

ok, but please make clear: by rooting will i have a real froyo or future gingerbread or just sort of system that only acts like one of the two above?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

by rooting it allows you to change the stock ROM (HTC sense) on your phone to another custom ROM either based on Froyo or Gingerbread

hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers

) well i'm afraid too..

well, have you done rooting your dhd?

dr.m0x said:
You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
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And It's hard to Brick the Desire HD... And for your Gingerbread Concern, The Chef's here are aware of that.. Just be patience and they will Produce ROMS with Gingerbread on it.... Enjoy Rooting....

xuldigiorgio said:
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
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Your on the 1.32 software so routing will be a piece of cake.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

hi , ive been reading the guides and am really keen to root my dhd, was just about to start the process when i read that it wouldn't work with my branded dhd (vodaphone, australia) is this true? was hoping to go from 1.32.178.5 to 1.72.405.3 R2 is this possible using the stock to leedroid guide?

anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?

xuldigiorgio said:
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
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as far as I know, the branded ones show the logo of the company (ex Vodafone, T-mobile.. etc)

The whole thing is really confusing to me. I do have ENG S-OFF, and already flashed a Radio and some Roms. Is ENG S-OFF better than Radio S-OFF? Or what is the difference to it?
I read some threads about it and now I am really confused..
Kick me!

[Q] Telus desire HD ?

Hello, i'm quite new to the android system. I've browsed through quite some of the threads, and there are somethings i dont quite understand..
Please help me address them.
What is the difference between a telus desire HD and a htc desire hd? Are they the same?
How do i check if my phone version is eligible for rooting ?
What is a ROM ?

They are not the same.
Telus Desire HD is from Canada.
Both the Telus Desire HD and European Desire HD can be rooted.
A ROM is a essentially a customized version of Android that differs from the stock ROM that comes with your phone.

Heres a tip, do a search for Telus in Q&A and in Development section and you'll find most, if not all your answers after this.

Okay..
So how do i know if mine is a telus or not?
I got my phone in Singapore. Any way to check ?
Thanks for the ROM info btw.

I'll bite.
Telus is a service provider. Like Rogers, Bell, Orange, etc. If you got your phone from Singapore, there's no possible way for it to be a Telus phone unless the person you bought it from imported the DHD from Canada and sold it back to you.

as someone had mentioned, telus DHD is from canada. yours definitely is the general htc set.

Alright.. So is there any way to root a general htc DHD ?
I want to root it so bad.

You need to learn how to read stickies and guides on a forum. I bet you came right in here expecting answers without reading. Am i correct?

The telus version is hspa and is more like the inspire 4g
Sent from my Desire HD running Leedroid @ 1.8GHz using XDA app

Aydenxz said:
Alright.. So is there any way to root a general htc DHD ?
I want to root it so bad.
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well, here it is if u expect for some spoon feeding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996

equlizer said:
You need to learn how to read stickies and guides on a forum. I bet you came right in here expecting answers without reading. Am i correct?
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For your info, i did read up. I just dont understand the terms that are used. There are so many things, and as i said, i'm really new to android phone and system.. And i'm not really a technical guy, so i really need help from you guys.
Please bear with me, i'm trying real hard to understand what you guys are posting. And of course, i wouldn't wanna put my phone at risk if i dont know anything about it right ?
So yeah..
And thanks for the " Spoon feed " Gouki. Appreciate it. Will definitely read up on it.
So, another question, what do custom ROMs do to your phone ? How does it differ from the original ROM ?

Different dev create different ROMs.
Cosmetics like splash, bootup, bootdown.
Sense or no-sense,
different Overclock speed/capability.
And some have different apps. (Modaco with Wavesecure).
Etc...

Okay, i read the forum about putting a new ROM into your phone.
In order for me to do that, must i root my phone ?
Can the general DHD be rooted ?

Yes and yes.... the beauty of Android is the ability to mess around with the software. TUnfortunately messing up and learning for yourself goes hand in hand with it.

AWESOME. Thanks alot cue. You've been a great help.
Now... im going to check how im going to root my phone. Still kinda worried about what will happen to my phone if i do it wrongly.
My phone, is, REALLY, REALLY slow. Like seriously.

Oh yes, how do i check my phone version so that i can see if i need to downgrade it ?
And, can http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954997 this be used to help me root and flash a new ROM ? Will there be any difference in the rooting procedure ?

As said, if you got your phone from Singapore then it shouldn't be a Telus DHD.
You can check your version from Settings —> About Phone —> Firmware Version.
If you have a higher version than 1.32.405.6 you need to downgrade. Instructions can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
After that you can use this guide to root and flash whatever you want: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
This info isn't so hard to find...

Hawks556 said:
As said, if you got your phone from Singapore then it shouldn't be a Telus DHD.
You can check your version from Settings —> About Phone —> Firmware Version.
If you have a higher version than 1.32.405.6 you need to downgrade. Instructions can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
After that you can use this guide to root and flash whatever you want: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
This info isn't so hard to find...
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I've actually came across both of this links, just that i dont know how to check my firmware version. Still, thanks !

Settings —> About Phone —> Software information —> Build number

[Q] How do I root my DHD? (2.50.45.2)

Hey, I´ve used the search tool, but couldn´t find anything.
I would like to Root my HTC Desire HD, so I can Install the new Android Revolution 6.x (Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 )
My Phone is currently running:
Android 2.3.3
Sense 2.1
Baseband Version 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2
Kernel Version 2.6.35.10
Build Number 2.50.405.2
Software Number 2.50.405.2
My Phone has no branding!
Is rooting possible for me?
Can Someone please help me?
I am totaly new to rooting, so I would appreciate a step by step tutorial.

That makes two of looking for the same information, any help out there please

YES rooting is possible.
I rooted my Dhd about two weeks ago and all went well.
I spent about a week reading lots of different sites. All using different methods in the end I used a guide on driphter.com
Forum > Everything Android > HTC Desire HD/Inspire 4G > General Discussion > [GUIDE] Downgrade, Root, Radio & Eng S-OFF DHD/Inspire 4G in 9 Steps
if your unbranded you can skip the goldcard step.
i also had to download the PD98IMG using my phone and move it to the root (not in any folder) of the sd card using astro
the only other step i changed was to install visionary+ from blackmart alpha (google it. Its a blackmarket market) the install from the toolkit didn't work for me.
JSL is very good/quick to answer questions on that fourm.
Hope this helps.

What do I need S-Off for?
What does it do?
Thanks for the Help, Ill try it out...
(I hope I dont brick my phone)

voltron2k11 said:
What do I need S-Off for?
What does it do?
Thanks for the Help, Ill try it out...
(I hope I dont brick my phone)
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You need s-off to flash new roms its an added security HTC add.
I think it stands for security off but i'm not 100% sure if anyone wants to correct me/let mr know please do.

I can´t download the ToolKit
Something seems to be wrong with the .zip file...
Any other way?

What you guys need to do is read, and follow closely, all of the information contained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
I hope it answers all (or at least most) of your questions.

Hi voltron2k11
voltron2k11 said:
I can´t download the ToolKit
Something seems to be wrong with the .zip file...
Any other way?
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Could it be your Antivirus is killing the download? check to see if it is being held in Quarantine.
Take Care
TheQuest

I couldn´t find the mistake on my computer, so I just downloaded it with my phone ^^ ... Everything Else Went totally easy ^^
(I was a bit nervous ... I really love my Phone )
But I can now enjoy the amazing ROMs from the brilliant xda devs...and never have to wait for an update from htc again!
(htc should really thing about getting some of you guys !!!!)
Thanks for the Help with the threads