[Q] g2 good idea to root now - or wait? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i am basically looking to root my tmobile g2 just to put sense on it...
but it has already been confirmed that there will be a ginger bread update from htc/tmobile in the coming months..
also sense 3.0 from what i can tell has been floating around on some roms - but will the g2 ever be able to run the new sense without having the dual core? also seems like the htc sensation rom has different resolution from the g2.
so do i root and put sense on my g2 now - or wait

silent1643 said:
i am basically looking to root my tmobile g2 just to put sense on it...
but it has already been confirmed that there will be a ginger bread update from htc/tmobile in the coming months..
also sense 3.0 from what i can tell has been floating around on some roms - but will the g2 ever be able to run the new sense without having the dual core? also seems like the htc sensation rom has different resolution from the g2.
so do i root and put sense on my g2 now - or wait
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The upcoming GB update won't give you Sense, it'll still be a "with Google" build; if you want Sense, the only way to get it on the G2 is to root the device and install a Sense based ROM.
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Yeah but the desirez will get gingerbread with sense - shouldnt i wait to get this type of rom on the g2 since it would be an official/more stock rom
Sorry i am new to this
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I would install a sense rom now if you want it then install the update when it gets released. As for 3.0 yes it will run on the g2. Some people are working on changing resolutions right now.
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Awesome
How do I go about doing this the right way with having the option to restore/backup?
Also do any of the sense roms work with wifi calling?
shortlived said:
I would install a sense rom now if you want it then install the update when it gets released. As for 3.0 yes it will run on the g2. Some people are working on changing resolutions right now.
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silent1643 said:
Awesome
How do I go about doing this the right way with having the option to restore/backup?
Also do any of the sense roms work with wifi calling?
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If you're unfamiliar with things, the easiest way is with ROM Manager. Once rooted (use the method in the wiki as it's the most up to date) download ROM Manager from the Market. From ROM Manager flash ClockworkMod Recovery. After that, backup your current ROM (name it "Stock", or something that makes sense to you), download the Virtuous ROM (it's the most stable Sense ROM for the G2, from what I've found) and follow the prompts.
Since you're switching between incompatible ROMs, non-Sense/Sense, you will have to do a full wipe. Your contacts and apps will sync (if you have that currently set) but your data won't. To remedy this, before flashing download Titanium Backup and backup all your user apps, you can then use Titanium to push back your apps and data (don't opt to push back your system data as all hell will break lose).
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If you want Sense, then you have to root regardless, so why wait to root?
The test version of the Vision/DesireZ ROM with Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 has been leaked, and the SenseGinger custom ROM is based on that. So its not a port. There are still a few fairly minor bugs, but it seems pretty stable if you want to try it out. But no WiFi calling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991

redpoint73 said:
If you want Sense, then you have to root regardless, so why wait to root?
The test version of the Vision/DesireZ ROM with Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 has been leaked, and the SenseGinger custom ROM is based on that. So its not a port. There are still a few fairly minor bugs, but it seems pretty stable if you want to try it out. But no WiFi calling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
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mmm no wifi calling might be a deal breaker for me - i loose signal where i work and rely on the wifi signal to receive and make calls...
is there no wifi calling on the sense rom because its based off the desire z (Uk)?

Not sure the reason for WiFi calling not working. It steps on the toes of lots of carriers, so I can see it being left out of the generic HTC ROM, which the leaked test ROM is (the WWE version, or worldwide english). This version of SenseGinger is really new (April 13), so the developers may get it working. Not sure what their intent is, so you might read thru the SenseGinger thread and see if its discussed.
For instance, on Virtuous, WiFi calling only works on T-Mobile by design of the developers. So I'm thinking this feature is a T-Mob exclusive?

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Not sure the reason for WiFi calling not working. It steps on the toes of lots of carriers, so I can see it being left out of the generic HTC ROM, which the leaked test ROM is (the WWE version, or worldwide english). This version of SenseGinger is really new (April 13), so the developers may get it working. Not sure what their intent is, so you might read thru the SenseGinger thread and see if its discussed.
For instance, on Virtuous, WiFi calling only works on T-Mobile by design of the developers. So I'm thinking this feature is a T-Mob exclusive?
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I'm pretty sure that the included WiFi Calling app only works with T-Mobile as its a T-Mobile app and designed for their network.
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OriginalGabriel said:
I'm pretty sure that the included WiFi Calling app only works with T-Mobile as its a T-Mobile app and designed for their network.
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you are correct - i am on tmobile and using the wifi calling - just dont want to loose it if using a sense rom

silent1643 said:
you are correct - i am on tmobile and using the wifi calling - just dont want to loose it if using a sense rom
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The app will work with Sense, just make sure you back it up before flashing as its not in the Market and not included with a lot of ROMs
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redpoint73 said:
If you want Sense, then you have to root regardless, so why wait to root?
The test version of the Vision/DesireZ ROM with Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 has been leaked, and the SenseGinger custom ROM is based on that. So its not a port. There are still a few fairly minor bugs, but it seems pretty stable if you want to try it out. But no WiFi calling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
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Senseginger 3.0 is still bassed on sense 2.3 by the way i read it... The sensation rom which was leaked is running sense 3.0 but hardly anything works so far.
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OriginalGabriel said:
The app will work with Sense, just make sure you back it up before flashing as its not in the Market and not included with a lot of ROMs
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hmm can anybody confirm this will work? only thing keeping me from rooting right now

You shouldn't wait to root your device base on the upcoming update since probably, they'll patch it somehow so currents rooting methods won't work, like the update on the DesireZ that people have to downgrade in order to root. And yes there are Sense rom that works with wifi callings. Go for it!
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[Q] How to get flash lite?

I am using CM6.1 (rooted and S-OFF). I am looking through the n00b FAQ and it was mentioned that I can get flash lite. I know Flash 10.1 is not working for MT3G due to hardware no support. My question is, how do I get flash lite (flash lite 4?)
I could not find it in market, but maybe someone had an .apk or .img file?
Thanks.
I was under the impression that Flash Lite doesn't work with Froyo's browser.
EDIT: I should say, STOCK Froyo's browser. My bad.
I think the Flash Lite in the Froyo OTA only works for Sense.
You could try pulling it from there and installing and see what happens.
Every sense rom has flash lite plugin so if u really want that u have to install a sense rom not cm6. Go for 3rd sense or the new froyo ota
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Thanks! I like CM.. guess I will have to live without flash for a while, or hope to have the CM developer team to integrate that.
They won't since sense is closed source so they don't mess with that... just use skyfire xD
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Well I tried pulling it from CR's OTA and it failed... What a surprise!
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Thanks for trying. I do have skyfire, but somehow I like the stock browser better. seems more simple.
I've seen in Lg GT540 section, Android development thread they found a way to get flash lite working on a rom without Sense ui. I never tried it, but I'm very excited to get it working on CM7. Maybe you should check it out.
SKAm69 said:
I've seen in Lg GT540 section, Android development thread they found a way to get flash lite working on a rom without Sense ui. I never tried it, but I'm very excited to get it working on CM7. Maybe you should check it out.
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Please link to this thread.
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I'm assuming this one here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=851179&highlight=lite
Search'd!
SefEXE said:
I'm assuming this one here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=851179&highlight=lite
Search'd!
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That's right!

[ROM][02/18/11][WWE] Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched: Rooted/Deodexed

Post deleted. I will no longer be contributing to XDA due to their lack of adequate tools and support.
Could I flash this using cwr 3?
GunToYoMouth123 said:
Could I flash this using cwr 3?
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Yes, either version works.
rmk40 said:
Yes, either version works.
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Ah, alright thank you !
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The battery life on this rom is actually kinda good.
Better than other sense roms. Thanks for this one,im looking forward to a rom based on this one or atleast the new gingerbread sense from you sir. Your work is good.
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So this is just a stock vision Sense? I'm confused on what's added on Virtuous and not on stock Sense?
are there any screenshots?
thanks
Pretty sure its just vision sense.
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so... i can flash this on my Desire Z??
It's just almost Pure stock except:
Rooted with my customized version of Superuser (required until ChainsDD releases a version with my patches).
Deodexed with moderate compression throughout.
Busybox installed in /system/xbin.
Added large APNS list to /system/etc.
Yes,that`s all!
Otherwise its totally stock ROM.
Hi Guys! I have a short question concerning this ROM and Superuser
I used the 1.34 OTA Stock Sense ROM (right out of the box) and rooted my device with the HTC Vision Wiki tutorial. Everything worked fine.
Then "updated" to this ROM here and now my Superuser app keeps quitting as soon as I start the app.
I can't remove or update it (although there seems to be an update via Applanet).
Does anyone know how to fix it?
Thx in advance
Rawn said:
Hi Guys! I have a short question concerning this ROM and Superuser
I used the 1.34 OTA Stock Sense ROM (right out of the box) and rooted my device with the HTC Vision Wiki tutorial. Everything worked fine.
Then "updated" to this ROM here and now my Superuser app keeps quitting as soon as I start the app.
I can't remove or update it (although there seems to be an update via Applanet).
Does anyone know how to fix it?
Thx in advance
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Can you capture and post a logcat of the failure occurring?
If I tried to use logcat on my device with Terminal Emulator and I get this error message:
"Unable to open log device /dev/log/main : Permission denied"
Does it mean I'm no longer on S-Off and due to that Superuser is quitting all the time?
does any1 have a release note for this HTC rom?
Does this make you lose all your data?
Just curious as its official if its possible to flash without losing everything (again)...
can I flash this to my Rooted G2 with Engineering SPL and Clock work?
Or does the kernel need changing and stuff?
death1246 said:
can I flash this to my Rooted G2 with Engineering SPL and Clock work?
Or does the kernel need changing and stuff?
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long as you are rooted/s-off you can flash this rom, you can also use any of the kernels from here: http://files.virtuousrom.com/vision/kernels/virtuous/2.x/ standard is the recommended =)
I want to try some sense apps, but not a full sense rom. Can I take these and push them to my CM7?
I will try in a bit
In short, no. Sense apps need the sense framework.
@Mnemoch Yes. If you're coming from another Sense ROM you can flash this without wiping - I flashed this over the official 1.72 last night and then added the standard OC kernel for Virtuous. It's smooth as butter
benjamminzIS said:
long as you are rooted/s-off you can flash this rom, you can also use any of the kernels from here: http://files.virtuousrom.com/vision/kernels/virtuous/2.x/ standard is the recommended =)
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thankyou flashing now.

[Q] HTC Sense on my G2 ver. 2.3.4

I have a T-Mobile G2 ver. 2.3.4. How easy is it and what are the steps to install HTC Sense on my phone? Are there bugs or glitches? Please let me know. Thank you very much!
You just need to find and flash a Sense based ROM via CWM. Virtuous ROMs work very well. I switch between CM7 and Unity on a regular basis and both are stable enough for day to day use.
I assume you have already set the phone up for flashing different ROMs?
Flashing different ROMs? How is it done? I haven't done anything to it except updating it to 2.3.4 using XDA's method. T-Mobile's OTA was taking a long time so I researched and found XDA. Thanks XDA!
It sounds like you have a lot of reading ahead of you.
Flashing ROMs is essentially installing new firmware on the device via a program called ClockWork.
I recommend starting off by reading through guides and information on the link below. The devices typically has safeguards against allowing you to just flash new ROMs, so a process is involved to unlock the phone and allow you to do it.
Once you become familiar with what it is, then learn how to do it, and what it does. I followed the gfree method on XDA wiki and had no issues, but if I recall, being on 2.3.4 you cannot follow the same method and must downgrade first.
Read, read, read. Then read some more. Search is very helpful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
I Think you need to switch to the Desire Z hoot in order to handle the sense rom
evilcuber said:
I Think you need to switch to the Desire Z hoot in order to handle the sense rom
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You do, but I didn't want to throw that out there if he didn't even know what ROMs were. He'll pick it up in his research.
biohazrd51 said:
You do, but I didn't want to throw that out there if he didn't even know what ROMs were. He'll pick it up in his research.
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The Desire Z HBoot is required for Unity and Doubleshot, but not for Virtuous Sense v2.0.0, I believe.
redpoint73 said:
The Desire Z HBoot is required for Unity and Doubleshot, but not for Virtuous Sense v2.0.0, I believe.
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I dono im not really sure
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if you are rooted, it should be somewhat simple. are you rooted?
Thanks for all the info and help guys but I'll stick to what I have for now. I read somewhere that there's still some glitches on the install like landscape is not working. And I'll do more research first so I won't brick my phone. Again, thanks guys! Peace!
Landscape rosie (homescreen) doesn't work for Unity. Its not an install glitch or bug, per se. The ROM based on HTC Sensation ROM, which does not have a keyboard, and therefore does not have landscape. Landscape rosie simply does not exist on that ROM, and the dev was fully aware that would be the case, all along. There is no Sense 3.0 with landscape rosie until HTC makes one.
Doubleshot has landscape rosie. Virtuous Sense is based on the official ROM for the Desire Z, so I assume landscape rosie works on that, as well.
There are also other Sense ROMs besides the Virtuous ones, like Insert Coin. But I don't know a whole lot about them.
evilcuber said:
I dono im not really sure
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Searching the Virtuous Sense thread, somebody says that the DZ HBoot is not needed. But I can't personally confirm.
Is you are getting virtuous sense then landscape does work but if you get virtuous unity, landscape does not work
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[Q]Do these custom ROMs affect the global capabilities of the phone?

I'm traveling to Italy tomorrow and just want to make sure that by having rooted and flashed an ASOP ROM on it has not affected its ability to connect to the cell network out there. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
It will depending on the rom you use. I have been using Newt's rom's primarily and i know he has gotten both GSM and CDMA to work on some of his newer versions, you will have to check the changelog to see which ones work though,
Newts newest 3D 2.03 has the world phone capibilities..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231283
But i cant speak for ASOP, you might want to check the log to see if it is listed as working or not.
I haven't tested Global Mode myself but people are reporting SkyRaider Zeus supports it.
I can give a big thumbs-up to the ROM as a whole. I have been running it for a few weeks and haven't hit a snag yet.
dj_wires said:
It will depending on the rom you use. I have been using Newt's rom's primarily and i know he has gotten both GSM and CDMA to work on some of his newer versions, you will have to check the changelog to see which ones work though,
Newts newest 3D 2.03 has the world phone capibilities..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231283
But i cant speak for ASOP, you might want to check the log to see if it is listed as working or not.
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Oh Oh, I appreciate the feedback but is not at all what I was hoping for lol...I just posted this question on the ROMs thread but its too late to do anything about it if it does not have it enabled, $#|T!!!! For argument sake I posted it was I traveling but when in reality its a co-worker(a manager) who is traveling to Europe and is he's gonna be pissed if he steps off that plane and has no service...I'll just try and blame it on the network out there i guess if worse comes to worse lol...thanks again!
Best to go with SkyRaider Zeus. Based off the stock shipped ROM, not a port.
Which Aosp rom do you have on your friends phone?
I've read in various places that CM 7 will work globally. Not sure about any of the others though.
sixteen2nd said:
I haven't tested Global Mode myself but people are reporting SkyRaider Zeus supports it.
I can give a big thumbs-up to the ROM as a whole. I have been running it for a few weeks and haven't hit a snag yet.
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Sucks, I wish I had know but this is what happens when they wait till the last minute, not my fault....also, I can't even try out that ROM now cuz Im stuck w/ this butt ass iPhone until I get my DInc2 back! Maybe I'll surprise him and jailbreak his iPhone if I get bored...you got a link to that SkyRaider for when I do get it back, please?..Edited..got it! thanks!
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PacerguyDon said:
Which Aosp rom do you have on your friends phone?
I've read in various places that CM 7 will work globally. Not sure about any of the others though.
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TSM's PoolParty
Lmao... Jailbreak the Iphone That would be good.
I suppose there isn't much you can do know, but maybe check the TSM thread, or maybe hit up The Devs here and maybe they can tell you if it's a global rom...
PacerguyDon said:
Lmao... Jailbreak the Iphone That would be good.
I suppose there isn't much you can do know, but maybe check the TSM thread, or maybe hit up The Devs here and maybe they can tell you if it's a global rom...
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I hit up the thread here on XDA but thanks for the link! Just registered and hit em up on there too!
Nitsuj's full rom doesn't affect the global radio. I had the same concern because im also leaving the country in a few weeks.
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draco259 said:
Nitsuj's full rom doesn't affect the global radio. I had the same concern because im also leaving the country in a few weeks.
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Really? Cuz I just found out that the dude ain't leaving til Sunday, so I can flash that ROM now ! Awesome man, thanks!..EDITED:which ROM, vanilla or vivow? I just check both and didn't see anything about GSM or global radio...
Vanilla, I havent tried global yet but i asked him about it and he said he didnt change anything that would brake it.
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JungleJiujitsu said:
I'm traveling to Italy tomorrow and just want to make sure that by having rooted and flashed an ASOP ROM on it has not affected its ability to connect to the cell network out there. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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i live abroad and the stock firmware works fine with local GSM carriers
you can just flash rmk Rooted rom which is the original firmware after removing bloatware, works exactly like stock ( no bugs at all )
and if needed he added a flashable zip including all removed app.
if you like sense 3 , in the Forum there a sense 3 Patch . i tested that rom myself with the Patch and its fine
there is many sense 3 Roms that Support Global Mode also. but in my opinion that rmk Rom is the safest ( no bugs at all )
## phone codes
+1 for rmk's stock ROM.
Make sure that the ROM you use will allow access to the ## phone codes.
Or at least put a stock based cleaned ROM on the phone and set it up and do a nandroid of it so if he needs to access those codes, he will have a workaround.
I found that the AOSP ROMs don't allow access to those codes.
So if you need to manually change any data settings you have to use a sense based ROM to make those changes, then flash back to the ROM you want.
The data settings should stay between flashes but I found that even with full wipe and flashing the ROM, then the nandroid, I still got a boatload of FCs.
Good luck ....
Yep, just depends on which ROM you download. Some do, some don't.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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cac2us said:
+1 for rmk's stock ROM.
Make sure that the ROM you use will allow access to the ## phone codes.
The data settings should stay between flashes but I found that even with full wipe and flashing the ROM, then the nandroid, I still got a boatload of FCs.
Good luck ....
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there is a script or APK called Rom Cleaner in xda , check it

Help!!-ICS Upgrade not shwn in updates

i bought an htc incredible 2
it has gingerbread installed.
i tried to update it. but update says network error.
all other apps including browser uses network fine.
please help. i need to update to ICS.
Note-It is an unlocked Verizon mobile. not factory unlocked and I'm not in USA.
HTC hasn't released ICS for dinc2 yet
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Lmfao
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JehC said:
HTC hasn't released ICS for dinc2 yet
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maybe he is in china
Really? At the risk of sounding like a jerk.... How did you even find your way into the Q&A section without seeing tons of posts about "When will we get the ICS update?"
Just to let you know, once the OTA ICS update is released you will not be able to download it since you are not on the Verizon network. What you will need to do is S-OFF (or at least HTC Dev Unlock) your phone so that you can flash a custom rom. The best part about this is that you don't even have to wait for a custom rom to be released thanks to our awesome devs! You have tons of options for ICS, if you want stock Nitsuj17 just posted a leaked version of the update earlier today and he also has another sense ICS rom out, CondemnedSoul soul has a few nice options (AOKP and CM9 or if you want JellyBean he has the new version of AOKP as well,) Aerovan has an awesome CM9 and a CM10 rom, TazzPatriot has a sense ICS rom out too. There are others as well, those are just the ones that spring to mind.
Thanks
cstone1991 said:
Really? At the risk of sounding like a jerk.... How did you even find your way into the Q&A section without seeing tons of posts about "When will we get the ICS update?"
Just to let you know, once the OTA ICS update is released you will not be able to download it since you are not on the Verizon network. What you will need to do is S-OFF (or at least HTC Dev Unlock) your phone so that you can flash a custom rom. The best part about this is that you don't even have to wait for a custom rom to be released thanks to our awesome devs! You have tons of options for ICS, if you want stock Nitsuj17 just posted a leaked version of the update earlier today and he also has another sense ICS rom out, CondemnedSoul soul has a few nice options (AOKP and CM9 or if you want JellyBean he has the new version of AOKP as well,) Aerovan has an awesome CM9 and a CM10 rom, TazzPatriot has a sense ICS rom out too. There are others as well, those are just the ones that spring to mind.
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Thanks. This is my first android phone so i'm a newbie. i used Nokia before.
All of the people here you are the only one that helped. thank you for that.+1.
can you please te me where to get the stock ics rom.
thanks in advance.
casseer15 said:
Thanks. This is my first android phone so i'm a newbie. i used Nokia before.
All of the people here you are the only one that helped. thank you for that.+1.
can you please te me where to get the stock ics rom.
thanks in advance.
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There is no real "stock" ICS ROM yet as it hasn't been released. The closest ROMs to stock ICS at the moment are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745483
The first link is the closest as it is from a test leak.
thanks
Jizzylax said:
There is no real "stock" ICS ROM yet as it hasn't been released. The closest ROMs to stock ICS at the moment are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745483
The first link is the closest as it is from a test leak.
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Thanks. +1.
casseer15 said:
Thanks. +1.
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Just stay stock. If you are that much of a rookie to this, it just might make things worse at this point in time. Most don't have GSM working 100% from what I understand (GSM users can correct me on that).
But, if you haven't even rooted yet, you are still a bit away from being able to flash one of those bad boys. I say give it another week at least to see what these devs can do with the leaked rom.
It will probably be easier for you. If not, and you think you are ready to take the plunge, than good luck and enjoy!

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